South African Hip-Hop Pioneer Stogie T Freestyles, Talks ‘Honey & Pain' and Breaks Down The Culture

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SWAY'S UNIVERSE

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@EmmanuelSith
@EmmanuelSith 6 жыл бұрын
Most underated south African artist put a like if u agree lots of love from Canada
@nhlosenhlephalo5194
@nhlosenhlephalo5194 6 жыл бұрын
He is not underrated... everyone knows him, everyone knows what he can do... it's only the kids who don't know him...
@tah3691
@tah3691 6 жыл бұрын
LYRICS- There ain't a French bottle we ain't pop, a fresh article we ain't cop benz top that we ain't drop, and dressed model we ain't knocked festival we ain't rocked, destined to be this hot, to the best of my knowledge, rest of the marriage - that's sayin a lot, but if you takin stock! and you don't save a spot for the forsaken lot! from the bakin hot land of the slavers doug! That's your prerogative, we polar opposites I'm from that continent of poverty and long-walk accomplishments Where former heroes give birth to spoilt rotten kids The opulent meet the poor cleanin their their offices We push rocket ships like Elon Musk, charged the whip but still stuck in sh** coz we don't got a pot to piss in. So G** forgives as you you give the church half your sh**! I'm buggin, still we can't tell a pastor from a pimp! it's Roman Catholic, it's Anglican, it's African tribes-men, migrants, sh** it's masked men kidnappin kids! I say South Africa you think Trevor, I think Nelson, it's half a parage you gettin mixed messages ey! I say Nigeria you think Fela (Kuti), I think Delta it's past and present it's blurry as an impression, and Sway, I put your certified hyenas in Elephant graves! I'm punchin way above the ceiling you set us the grade! This is the Red-letter day!! Show em how a vet is made!! last time somebody spit this fire.. David Blane These ready-made superstars with tattoos and scars and you think they can save face with a few bars! They lukewarm I'm in true form! 38 like Jordan in Utah*?* killin them with the flu shot!! Strus-G**, that means trust me! I'm nutty as RuPaul, but I wear out a p** like King Jaffe in New York, ?*what cud you do rump***???* When I promise you ought'a smoke I am so covin bro dis is Snoop Dog! This is the dairy of a mad man, who shud have been stamp champ, but I wrote above their heads like Anne Frank Fam, I'm a giant among ants, like the tyrant from Baghdad, whose sayn (Hussien) I can't hang on camera. Grew up on hammers, M-16 hammers! No dancers! Miss me with MC Hammer, I'm cool-G rap alumni, these my handlers! The cool fiend(Kufi) Nas from NY, jesus medallion! Reading Langston Hughes, el-Hajj Malik Shabazz en them, sh** In the pocket like the auto-borne assassin! They gon photograph an African prototype of a starving kid, but not show you the royal blue Aston Martin whip, it's complicated, and f** Vibranium educate em, we got ghettos to, and they orange juice concentrated! Bo Brady said be measured in your actions Give them honey and pain, happiness and the anguish Like when Tony got the flooded Roley and we called it hope For all the times the po-po had my folks against the ropes For all the times we drove a shawty out to Marie Stopes And all the ones we almost broke, but still be calling hoes They fall for men who end up teachin them the rope or dope / ropadope, these the broken homes we from. It ain't sweet like, its marijuana leaf highs, like maradona sniff white, strangled by a short leash, my mama hold her fist tight, tell a bigot he can suck and lick a piss pipe! coz we gon get that level up and win in this life! ey, I'm from the real South, Not the fried catfish killer-mic, I mean a township, real South, Where blacks go through hardship like around ?*ship flight*? it's bad sh** backwards for the wrong skin-type, and I am disliked but don't give too many f** When they set the bar, I look back and tell them where it was. This sh** ain't for everyone, second cousin and aunt takin a dump on our culture for a radio chart, ey bu I ain't mad at you might even dance to it, and half the world can watch me Thanos-snap to it. Rest in peace pro-kid Rest in peace HHP Rest in peace Zwelethu Bhadela Rest in peace Ben Sharper Stogie F***ing T
@maholorathaba7177
@maholorathaba7177 6 жыл бұрын
Trust us bruv, real heads don't underrate this man
@neo2bc258
@neo2bc258 6 жыл бұрын
K.O.T.D he lost hope in Canada duiring his battle with The Saurus because most of his lines were going over their heads.
@victorsilas5487
@victorsilas5487 6 жыл бұрын
You can not rate a GOD, stop it! Stogie is Hip Hop
@lelethuzephe5424
@lelethuzephe5424 Жыл бұрын
It's 2023 and we here to mark the register ❤🇿🇦 thank you Stogie.
@bonginkosigumede4586
@bonginkosigumede4586 Жыл бұрын
i always come back to this may be twice a month 🔥
@trippleblaaack
@trippleblaaack 4 жыл бұрын
I'm Kenyan, and I've never heard an African MCee flow that hard and tight. One of the best freestyles I've ever heard
@andrewkubo4050
@andrewkubo4050 3 жыл бұрын
And Khaligraph thinks he's the best in Africa
@ayo30s
@ayo30s 3 жыл бұрын
No Doubt!!! 👍🏾👊🏾✌🏾🦁🦁🦁🇰🇪🇳🇬🇺🇸
@siphosethupike5344
@siphosethupike5344 3 жыл бұрын
RespecK Brotherman.👊 I grew up fascinated with the history of Kenya and Mali especially at age 12! Peace 🇿🇦🇰🇪
@kapambwekapambwe4131
@kapambwekapambwe4131 3 жыл бұрын
@@andrewkubo4050 Stogie will rap circles around khaligraph
@mphomashegoane200
@mphomashegoane200 2 жыл бұрын
T is really endless like rooms of poems before a typical rap verse,on this one he was flexing to show the whole world that whats on tv is not “Thee”best south africa have to offer…
@philasandemrush9318
@philasandemrush9318 7 ай бұрын
Who still here in 2024🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦
@morganchoma
@morganchoma 4 ай бұрын
I ain’t going anywhere 🤞🏾
@UmpheTshivhase
@UmpheTshivhase 4 ай бұрын
Me bro
@mathabomthethwa
@mathabomthethwa 3 ай бұрын
I live here 🤣
@lebohangmokotjo1662
@lebohangmokotjo1662 12 күн бұрын
16 Nov '24.
@SiphosihleR
@SiphosihleR 12 күн бұрын
@@lebohangmokotjo1662😂😂
@silindilebongiwemakhaza
@silindilebongiwemakhaza 4 жыл бұрын
Who still comes here to watch this interview in 2020
@kwenakgaabi3733
@kwenakgaabi3733 4 жыл бұрын
Anyday.
@tshepisoramushu5450
@tshepisoramushu5450 4 жыл бұрын
Such an important conversation. Articulate, factual and substantial. Tumi and this interview are super iconic.
@kagisomokoa8935
@kagisomokoa8935 4 жыл бұрын
I'm here
@victormyeni3410
@victormyeni3410 4 жыл бұрын
I come here when I wanna get goosebumps
@melikhayandleleni8215
@melikhayandleleni8215 4 жыл бұрын
Me
@odiakosavictor4026
@odiakosavictor4026 2 жыл бұрын
It’s 2022 and I can’t get enough of this🔥🔥🔥
@mthokozisihlekwane5077
@mthokozisihlekwane5077 Жыл бұрын
Still 2023 we can't get enough of it
@kumkan3588
@kumkan3588 Жыл бұрын
its 2024 now@@mthokozisihlekwane5077
@imasuenefewisdom8303
@imasuenefewisdom8303 6 жыл бұрын
Tumi is not a hyena, Dude raises Hyenas for a living. Dude is a legend
@blacktearsthereaper8990
@blacktearsthereaper8990 5 жыл бұрын
He puts certified hyenas in elephant graves
@tebogomokgatle1167
@tebogomokgatle1167 5 жыл бұрын
The chills...*wow*
@therealblackqueen1654
@therealblackqueen1654 5 жыл бұрын
Most underated comment EVER!!!!!
@shimeih2287
@shimeih2287 4 жыл бұрын
I love how we still call him Tumi even after he changed his rap name. All OGs know 😁 hehee I'm not South African, I'm a Zimbabwean from Bulawayo. I grew up listening to a lot of Hip hop (both African and American) And the fact that I speak Isindebele and a bit of Setswana so I understand S.A music.Houz music, Amapiano, Naija, Afropop, Pop or whatever, I just love music.
@thabanimosia7730
@thabanimosia7730 4 жыл бұрын
Period!!!!
@SouthAh
@SouthAh 8 ай бұрын
This man makes me proud to be a black South African man, and I’m a Chinese man from Shanghai
@homiesoprano13
@homiesoprano13 3 жыл бұрын
2021, and this freestyle is still punching way above the ceiling.
@bonginkosigumede4586
@bonginkosigumede4586 2 жыл бұрын
when our radio's playing the same song the holl day i just come back to this art
@huemungus5934
@huemungus5934 6 жыл бұрын
Skipped the interview to just watch the freestyle and had to show this man some respect and watch the interview after he spit that freestyle definitely a hyena god damn. Love from Canada
@16224
@16224 6 жыл бұрын
When you come to South Africa, come to joburg and I will show you a good time
@mfundogumede3592
@mfundogumede3592 5 жыл бұрын
@@16224 sup with you Zitha
@mfundogumede3592
@mfundogumede3592 5 жыл бұрын
@@16224 chill out
@16224
@16224 5 жыл бұрын
@@mfundogumede3592 what's wrong with you now
@Etienneemukendi
@Etienneemukendi 3 жыл бұрын
🙏
@leratomichael5982
@leratomichael5982 6 жыл бұрын
Finally, the US got a South African true Hip-hop reflection...Stogie T🙌🔥🔥🔥🔥
@mavisbezuidenhout528
@mavisbezuidenhout528 5 жыл бұрын
Yes geaaal
@arthursbu5459
@arthursbu5459 5 жыл бұрын
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@olajohnson6266
@olajohnson6266 Жыл бұрын
Not that nonsense Casper spit
@TheBankia
@TheBankia 6 жыл бұрын
Shout out to Sway man I don't think this mans getting enough respect for giving so many African artist this platform RESPECT SWAY
@ayo30s
@ayo30s 4 жыл бұрын
No Doubt!!! 👍🏾👊🏾✌🏾🇳🇬🇺🇸
@SiphaG
@SiphaG 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Sway 🇿🇦👍👍
@shemanemasia6836
@shemanemasia6836 6 жыл бұрын
Sway, you don’t understand, once Stogie T posted on S/M about him coming to ‘SWAY In the Morning’... ‘we’ waited for this video debuting like how ‘we’ queued for the debut screening of the Black Panther. For us in🇿🇦 we were like ‘two legends of culture’ of two powerful continents under one roof for some grown folks conversations to real MCeeing and bar crossing. Well done Sway - well done Stogie T, the HipHop Sire!
@Cars_and_Other_Wheels
@Cars_and_Other_Wheels 6 жыл бұрын
WELL SAID. WAS WAITING FOR THIS ONE
@254battlerap7
@254battlerap7 6 жыл бұрын
no doubt. Hiphop heads in the continent we were literally waiting on this. Kenya we here. TUMI ran with it how its supposed to be done manze.
@rawstrawberry319
@rawstrawberry319 6 жыл бұрын
*Didn't even look at the comment section till it was done. Amen*
@kholomajazztic2334
@kholomajazztic2334 6 жыл бұрын
Even Househeads were waiting on it.
@mwelasekamazibuko2949
@mwelasekamazibuko2949 6 жыл бұрын
@@kholomajazztic2334 😂i aint never heard of 'house heads' 😂😂
@Terps
@Terps 6 жыл бұрын
Never heard of this guy but he is better than 99.98% of folks "rapping", had to rewind.
@musacj
@musacj 6 жыл бұрын
@Terps, he used to be called Tumi (of Tumi and The Volume)
@africamybeloved8035
@africamybeloved8035 6 жыл бұрын
Terps come on Nasty c tried.. the boy is good yes he is not in the same level as Tumi but he good
@mthunzimhlongo660
@mthunzimhlongo660 4 жыл бұрын
HE IS A SOUTH AFRICAN RAP VETERAN
@sibonisoblessingmlombo9812
@sibonisoblessingmlombo9812 6 жыл бұрын
never compare stogie with the other SA rappers that went to sway...man is on his own level we need to respect that
@pumporientatedathletes-sa2513
@pumporientatedathletes-sa2513 5 жыл бұрын
But still don't buy his shit not to mention giving him the respect he deserves...... Instead Cassper z filling up the stadiums, and I am like what the fuck!!!?
@patrickmatshiri2569
@patrickmatshiri2569 5 жыл бұрын
we need Reason now!
@arthursibonisozulu6533
@arthursibonisozulu6533 5 жыл бұрын
Siboniso you're right
@kiasky1
@kiasky1 4 жыл бұрын
First of all , we don’t know this man. Why is he even on Black American radio.? Get out here.
@monedimaimane9831
@monedimaimane9831 4 жыл бұрын
@@kiasky1 *smdh* Well uhmm, 1st of all, I suggest you FIRMLY stick your Blatantly Benighted self to your Beyoncés & Rihannas sweet stuff, & leave the REAL Hip-Hop heads who authentically appreciate the Art, regardless where TF it comes from, to it... Secondly, Learn To Stay In Your Lane & S_ T_ F_ U!!! "Kind" Regards: South African Rappers®
@Chandasouk
@Chandasouk 6 жыл бұрын
I don't know much about South Africa but damn he showed up
@zamadladla826
@zamadladla826 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah seems you been in caves man? Never heard of FIFA world cup in 2010 or Nelson Mandela, Charlize Theron, Elon Musk?
@Chandasouk
@Chandasouk 6 жыл бұрын
@@zamadladla826 I know some people from there but don't know much about the region in general. Only bits and pieces of its history from Trevor Noah's book he wrote a while back.
@MrMoneyLong
@MrMoneyLong 6 жыл бұрын
Zama Dladla he was just being honest that he doesn’t know much about SA. Please respect and appreciate honesty.
@mohauthekiso5191
@mohauthekiso5191 6 жыл бұрын
@@zamadladla826 said he doesn't know much about SA, never said he doesn't know those people.... Chill a bit dude
@Darr1388
@Darr1388 6 жыл бұрын
All i can say is....shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiid. Best African representative on Sway by far. Having a proudly south african moment right now, leave me alone.
@jonathantrauner3742
@jonathantrauner3742 5 жыл бұрын
Stogie T you were out of this world amazing I loved your hyena verse and line The whole freestyle was next level OG
@julanijuelz
@julanijuelz 8 ай бұрын
It's 2024 and I'm still bumping this video. Stogie fucken T
@TheHangout-u7y
@TheHangout-u7y 8 ай бұрын
Same here. Stogie fucken T🇿🇦🇿🇦🎉🎉🎉
@djsbulive
@djsbulive 6 жыл бұрын
⚡⚡⚡⚡⚡⚡Power to Africa!
@fitwellramahlo6464
@fitwellramahlo6464 6 жыл бұрын
Sway must invite Mzekezeke at sway in the morning 🎤
@audiojerkbekwa3733
@audiojerkbekwa3733 6 жыл бұрын
@@fitwellramahlo6464 Nah, phola!
@general6529
@general6529 6 жыл бұрын
DJ Sbu
@kamogelomothibe6417
@kamogelomothibe6417 6 жыл бұрын
" I'm from that continent of poverty and long walk accomplishments // where former heros give birth to spoilt rotten kids " - Stogie T 😭🔥🔥🔥
@leytonmokgerepi9886
@leytonmokgerepi9886 6 жыл бұрын
Ohhhhh shit, he went in
@mbuzelintloko1899
@mbuzelintloko1899 6 жыл бұрын
kamogelo mothibe sheeesh 🔥🔥🔥
@SteshX
@SteshX 6 жыл бұрын
Hella fire right there
@ndimphiwemtyenene4198
@ndimphiwemtyenene4198 6 жыл бұрын
that line daaaaaamn
@lindiwemhlanga5597
@lindiwemhlanga5597 6 жыл бұрын
I wept there 😢
@croxncrox
@croxncrox 6 жыл бұрын
This is my 6th time back. Strongest verse in Sway history!
@1dakingpin
@1dakingpin Жыл бұрын
Its not a verse its a freestyle
@Kitchywac
@Kitchywac 6 жыл бұрын
This Cat is NIIIIIIIIIIIICE!!!!! 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽 Much love from the West Coast
@MrMartinpro
@MrMartinpro 6 жыл бұрын
Awe!
@Kitchywac
@Kitchywac 6 жыл бұрын
Martin Ndhlovu Yea Mayng!!! We need that universal/ international Dopeness to balance a lot of this watered down bullshit here in the states. I still rock w my Crooked I (Kxng Crooked) Royce’s, Mick Jenkins, Dead Prez, Black Thoughts etc..... but the radio is KILLIN US!! 👎🏽👎🏽
@TomTom-bd7qn
@TomTom-bd7qn 4 жыл бұрын
@@Kitchywac Ahh man. Hard Luck bro, Africa gon' rise soon BRO, watch-out
@siphosethupike5344
@siphosethupike5344 3 жыл бұрын
@@Kitchywac I miss my days growing up... I would binge on Nas, Common, Rapsody, Jean Grae, T. Kweli when my peers were into Lil Wayne, 2 Chainz and Drake... Now it's even worse with rappers who sound like they crying on Autotune😂 But atleast there's Polo G, Phora, Mick Jenkins, Shane Eagle and STILL: Nas, Common, Rapsody!👑💜👌🇿🇦
@mediahawkzar6109
@mediahawkzar6109 6 жыл бұрын
The only rapper i know that would never embarrass or disappoint me ever!!! Thank you for the dope freestyle Stogie, big up on waving the flag super high the right way.
@lusindisoqongo284
@lusindisoqongo284 5 жыл бұрын
This is the best freestyle ever from SA rappers that have been in sway's show. Fact!!!!
@vic3xog
@vic3xog 6 жыл бұрын
i always considered Tumi as probably one of the greatest lyricists from Africa from years back, glad the world has finally got to see his lyrical prowess, Salute to Sway for always giving African artists a platform...love from Kenya,,
@LadyT06
@LadyT06 6 жыл бұрын
He has been keeping it real and fresh for years now!Nobody can reach his heights...the real Ol' G African rapper!!
@BuddhaBlaze
@BuddhaBlaze 6 жыл бұрын
Brought him out in 2012 and people were wondering who he was. Now he's proving what I was telling them 6 years ago.
@vuyosangweni2838
@vuyosangweni2838 6 жыл бұрын
"I say, South Africa, you think Trevor, I think Nelson. It's half apparent you getting mixed messages. I say Nigeria you think Fela, I think Delta. its past and present and blurry as an impression 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@boyzeebeats
@boyzeebeats 6 жыл бұрын
Please note that Trevor is mixed!!!
@maholorathaba7177
@maholorathaba7177 6 жыл бұрын
😭
@SammyTTS8
@SammyTTS8 4 жыл бұрын
Half a parent
@ayo30s
@ayo30s 3 жыл бұрын
Yo!!! 👍🏾👊🏾✌🏾🦁🦁🇳🇬🇺🇸
@nomadadadiko9751
@nomadadadiko9751 6 жыл бұрын
There ain't a French bottle we ain't pop, a fresh article we ain't cop benz top that we ain't drop, and dressed model we ain't knocked festival we ain't rocked, destined to be this hot, to the best of my knowledge, rest of the marriage - that's sayin a lot, but if you takin stock! and you don't save a spot for the forsaken lot! from the bakin hot land of the slavers doug! That's your prerogative, we polar opposites I'm from that continent of poverty and long-walk accomplishments Where former heroes give birth to spoilt rotten kids The opulent meet the poor cleanin their their offices We push rocket ships like Elon Musk, charged the whip but still stuck in sh** coz we don't got a pot to piss in. So G** forgives as you you give the church half your sh**! I'm buggin, still we can't tell a pastor from a pimp! it's Roman Catholic, it's Anglican, it's African tribes-men, migrants, sh** it's masked men kidnappin kids! I say South Africa you think Trevor, I think Nelson, it's half a parage you gettin mixed messages ey! I say Nigeria you think Fela (Kuti), I think Delta it's past and present it's blurry as an impression, and Sway, I put your certified hyenas in Elephant graves! I'm punchin way above the ceiling you set us the grade! This is the Red-letter day!! Show em how a vet is made!! last time somebody spit this fire.. David Blane These ready-made superstars with tattoos and scars and you think they can save face with a few bars! They lukewarm I'm in true form! 38 like Jordan in Utah*?* killin them with the flu shot!! Strus-G**, that means trust me! I'm nutty as RuPaul, but I wear out a p** like King Jaffe in New York, ?*what cud you do rump***???* When I promise you ought'a smoke I am so covin bro dis is Snoop Dog! This is the dairy of a mad man, who shud have been stamped champ, but I wrote above their heads like Anne Frank Fam, I'm a giant among ants, like the tyrant from Baghdad, whose sayn (Hussien) I can't hang on camera. Grew up on hammers, M-16 hammers! No dancers! Miss me with MC Hammer, I'm cool-G rap alumni, these my handlers! The cool fiend(Kufi) Nas from NY, jesus medallion! Reading Langston Hughes, el-Hajj Malik Shabazz en them, sh** In the pocket like the auto-borne assassin! They gon photograph an African prototype of a starving kid, but not show you the royal blue Aston Martin whip, it's complicated, and f** Vibranium educate em, we got ghettos to, and they orange juice concentrated! But Bo Brady said be measured in your actions Give them honey and pain, happiness and the anguish Like when Tony got the flooded Roley and we called it hope For all the times the po-po had my folks against the ropes For all the times we drove a shawty out to Marie Stopes And all the ones we almost broke, but still be calling hoes They fall for men who end up teachin them the rope or dope / ropadope, these the broken homes we from. It ain't sweet like, its marijuana leaf highs, like maradona sniff white, strangled by a short leash, my mama hold her fist tight, tell a bigot he can suck and lick a piss pipe! coz we gon get that level up and win in this life! ey, I'm from the real South, Not the fried catfish killer-mic, I mean a township, real South, Where blacks go through hardship like around ?*ship flight*? it's bad sh** backwards for the wrong skin-type, and I am disliked but don't give too many f** When they set the bar, I look back and tell them where it was. This sh** ain't for everyone, second cousin and aunt takin a dump on our culture for a radio chart, ey but I ain't mad at you might even dance to it, and half the world can watch me Thanos-snap to it. Rest in peace pro-kid Rest in peace HHP Rest in peace Zwelethu Bhadela Rest in peace Ben Sharper Stogie F***ing T
@NhlanganoChabalala
@NhlanganoChabalala 6 жыл бұрын
you a GOD
@molwantwarakhuduwe472
@molwantwarakhuduwe472 5 жыл бұрын
I say South Africa you think Trevor, I think Nelson its Half a Parent you getting mixed messages Get it? Trevor? Half a parent? Mixed race? Hussain I can't hang on camera? Suddam Hussain was hanged live on camera, get it?
@emmanuelsebua1445
@emmanuelsebua1445 5 жыл бұрын
So much knowledge in these bars.
@roycesontse6573
@roycesontse6573 5 жыл бұрын
damn bro the best Emcee in SA
@87spiral
@87spiral 5 жыл бұрын
You da man!
@WicklowOnline
@WicklowOnline 6 жыл бұрын
Finally Tumi love from Zimbabwe 🇿🇼
@babyKGee
@babyKGee 6 жыл бұрын
Tkay Sw6 no no no ... please let’s get our facts starlight. Boitumelo is a South African .. in fact he is Tanzanian born due to his parents being in exile at the time of his birth. He is a product 🇿🇦
@maholorathaba7177
@maholorathaba7177 6 ай бұрын
I think you misunderstood.. This person is giving love from Zimbabwe ​@@babyKGee
@vuyisanimbi37
@vuyisanimbi37 6 жыл бұрын
Grew up on Tumi And The Volume. It's great to have a pioneer like him .. Please Sway have ProVerb next ..
@kevinartzphotography7729
@kevinartzphotography7729 4 жыл бұрын
My guy droppin S.A state of mind. Respect to stogie T repping South Africa.
@mh1zoYT
@mh1zoYT 6 жыл бұрын
21:29 The hottest sway freestyle to come out of South Africa, period.
@tellinaphamelamathebula2574
@tellinaphamelamathebula2574 Жыл бұрын
True... I just wish ProVerb can also come to this show, he was one person who could be compared to Stogie while I was growing although Proverb isn't releasing music anymore don't know if he would be willing to
@antonia5852
@antonia5852 6 жыл бұрын
so blessed to have come across stogie t’s music all the way in the US. he is CERTIFIED. nobody flows like stogie t. and i agree with the rest of y’all - reece is next. that boy is something else. 💯
@KeithHerman989796
@KeithHerman989796 6 жыл бұрын
Antonia Reece is amazing.. we appreciate him out here in Tanzania
@yamkelamgolombane8192
@yamkelamgolombane8192 6 жыл бұрын
True Reece is the shit but i feel like sometimes he relax a lot i wish he could raise his bars higher so that people will stop sleeping on him
@zamadladla826
@zamadladla826 6 жыл бұрын
LOL! Reece? He is numb and thinking he is on Mars on that marijuana and you out here posting about him when he is seeing nothing but smoke.
@sjaysjay2023
@sjaysjay2023 6 жыл бұрын
Zama Dladla uyi hater indaba uReece wakudlela intombi???
@bradleebimbrish8049
@bradleebimbrish8049 6 жыл бұрын
@@zamadladla826 kahle nje.. ain't nobody told lil Wayne and all the other big names that they smoke a lot. Don't bash on reece just because he a stoner.
@toyadelazy5441
@toyadelazy5441 6 жыл бұрын
Legendary Stogie xx ! one day will be there - woman built the scene too, wait fo it.
@vusimkhatshwa1601
@vusimkhatshwa1601 5 жыл бұрын
AND TOYA!!!!! YOU PLAYED AND STILL PLAYING YOUR ROLL BIG SIS...MUCH LOVE TO YOU
@wezilentakazana9440
@wezilentakazana9440 5 жыл бұрын
I believe in you Sis...keep pushing the push
@tumelomothoa2860
@tumelomothoa2860 5 жыл бұрын
Much love T
@ayobampilo5762
@ayobampilo5762 4 жыл бұрын
Toya ukuphi
@takudzwanyabadza2571
@takudzwanyabadza2571 4 жыл бұрын
Toya Delazy I'm patient enough ..gon b waiting 4 t
@Sekhwela
@Sekhwela 6 жыл бұрын
A walk in the park for stogie... Represented with ease! ShoutOut! 🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🔥🔥🔥
@danielmolapo6300
@danielmolapo6300 6 жыл бұрын
Too easy
@lwazinxam
@lwazinxam 6 жыл бұрын
Easy!!!!
@MrZegez
@MrZegez 6 жыл бұрын
Stogie T is a legend in the game...he can take on anyone man...literally. Thank you for representing Azania and Tanzania on world stages
@danny_n_zim
@danny_n_zim 6 жыл бұрын
Stogie has officially made Africa proud.
@hosiamokale1265
@hosiamokale1265 6 жыл бұрын
Sway, please hook up Stogie and Nas up to do a record. The stage is set, we need those bars. Stogie, good looking Mr.
@maholorathaba7177
@maholorathaba7177 6 ай бұрын
HHP did it without Sway's help... Stogie can reach out himself and I believe GOD SON may consider it
@bhongonkumanda7630
@bhongonkumanda7630 6 жыл бұрын
One of the GOATs in Africa. The poet MC, and also a battle rapper. Thank you for the s/o to HHP, Pro & Ben Sharpa. R.I.P to them
@siphesihlesihlali3181
@siphesihlesihlali3181 6 жыл бұрын
SOUTH AFRICA
@bhongonkumanda7630
@bhongonkumanda7630 6 жыл бұрын
Africa!
@itumelengjoyntshekang386
@itumelengjoyntshekang386 Жыл бұрын
Every now and again when I'm running low on inspiration I visit this piece of history. Excellence!
@ZintleMalgas
@ZintleMalgas 6 жыл бұрын
Re-watching this. WOOOW. Goosebumps as he speaks. Can't wait until he freestyles. Need to hear it again. 😭 Heeectic.
@LebogangMoeng
@LebogangMoeng 6 жыл бұрын
The interviews are important. The conversations are important. The bars are mandatory. Stogie is our national treasure. A pioneer confident in his artistry, and hella chilled. Much respect. 🔥🔥🔥🔥➗🔥🔥🔥🔥
@sanelecele954
@sanelecele954 6 жыл бұрын
I sacrificed my bundles for you dude and it was worth it, much love man🙌🙌💓🔥Stogie T
@jacobfuraha120
@jacobfuraha120 2 жыл бұрын
Damn right
@ICONWXRDZ
@ICONWXRDZ 6 жыл бұрын
These bars needs to be written down with explanation for many folks to get them 😢😢😢
@phumulanipehlongwane8048
@phumulanipehlongwane8048 6 жыл бұрын
Iviwe that is the same sh*t I get when I try to listen to Stogie T, this dude is my role model bro the only true MC who is not afraid for his reputation he we go to those battles like crazy.
@kagisonkabini2021
@kagisonkabini2021 6 жыл бұрын
Word for word mchana
@ntsakomaluleke9190
@ntsakomaluleke9190 6 жыл бұрын
this is basically the baddest freestyle ever , this dude is amazing !! thanks for repping S.A
@emmanuelsebua1445
@emmanuelsebua1445 5 жыл бұрын
Never get tired of watching this. The realist African MC. Africa stand up... Everytime I watch the freestyle reactions, the more I learn about the hidden meanings in his bars...
@KINGSAFEMUSIC
@KINGSAFEMUSIC 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for inviting our GOAT!!! Just as requested by majority, please invite A-Reece as well
@lwazinxam
@lwazinxam 6 жыл бұрын
REECE REECE REECE REECE REECE REECE REECE REECE REECE REECE REECE REECE REECE
@vintageboys7142
@vintageboys7142 6 жыл бұрын
SWAY UNIVERSE IS PART OF S.A HIP HOP CULTURE #CERTIFIED
@whatnowZA
@whatnowZA 6 жыл бұрын
Kwesta caught it, they said it was short... Nasty C killed it, they said he was reading from his phone... Stogie T buried, I'm still waiting to hear what they gonna be saying this time around
@boeta_raims
@boeta_raims 6 жыл бұрын
Relebohile Nkosi written verse
@gmmope
@gmmope 5 жыл бұрын
@@boeta_raims it don't matter, Nasty, AKA, Kwesta, Nyovest all written verses. You seem to forget that part of being an MC is based on your writing skills.
@lungelomaziya4899
@lungelomaziya4899 4 жыл бұрын
@@boeta_raims which song?
@trevorsnyman6106
@trevorsnyman6106 3 жыл бұрын
They all sucked, Stogie T showed up, that shit was beautiful
@bonginkosigumede4586
@bonginkosigumede4586 3 жыл бұрын
they can't say anything bcoz they are in elephants grave yard someone must go and digg them out
@lefaafricarise6396
@lefaafricarise6396 6 жыл бұрын
Sway invite Areece too just to showcase the talent we have in South Africa...Stogie T killed it like he always does
@TheBankia
@TheBankia 6 жыл бұрын
Shout out to Sway for giving Africa the platform much appreciation for that 🙌 Stogie you killed it Bro!!!!! Had me at the edge of my seat
@teboholetsoaka9975
@teboholetsoaka9975 6 жыл бұрын
This guy touches subjects that no other rapper in S.A does, he's too deep
@raleiyewilliam1362
@raleiyewilliam1362 Жыл бұрын
Toooo deep
@onkutlwilentehelang8913
@onkutlwilentehelang8913 6 жыл бұрын
"They gon photograph an African prototype of a starving kid But not show you the royal blue Austin Wip" Bars💥💣💣💣
@nathi4016
@nathi4016 6 жыл бұрын
That line is dope
@ndiimafhivictor6826
@ndiimafhivictor6826 6 жыл бұрын
That's how internetional media paint Africa
@Kitchywac
@Kitchywac 6 жыл бұрын
I bullshit y’all not! This Bruthas album is FUCKIN INSANE!!!! I promise I haven’t heard anything this good & refreshing since ........... 🤔🤔🤔🤔 Mick Jenkins “Healing Component” or Kendrick’s. GEEEEEZZZ!!! Mad love from California Bruvah!! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
@StMaxiMayne
@StMaxiMayne 5 жыл бұрын
who still watching in 2019 and comes back everytime??
@katlegomsebe2606
@katlegomsebe2606 6 жыл бұрын
"I'm a giant amongst ants; Like that tyrant from Baghdad, Hussein I can't hang on camera" 😭🔥
@hlabiroa5688
@hlabiroa5688 6 жыл бұрын
Straight up stogie word play game be on steroids
@thobanisithole5021
@thobanisithole5021 6 жыл бұрын
Ooooooooh shiiiiiiit!
@wilsonnkunjana1572
@wilsonnkunjana1572 6 жыл бұрын
This line will still fly over many people's heads 😂🤷‍♂️
@tshepomotshegoa1488
@tshepomotshegoa1488 6 жыл бұрын
Best Line
@MikeB-ek4ep
@MikeB-ek4ep 6 жыл бұрын
MY MAN!!!
@koketsokotsane9936
@koketsokotsane9936 6 жыл бұрын
Uncle Stogie though 🔥🔥🔥🔥 this mann never disappoints 😭😭😭😭
@twincornerconstructionandp7441
@twincornerconstructionandp7441 2 жыл бұрын
2022 and I’m still out here… timeless 🙏🏽👑🕯️
@rumpelstiltskin709
@rumpelstiltskin709 6 жыл бұрын
This is the best thing I've seen on the internet for a long time
@siphezulu5119
@siphezulu5119 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you sway, this what I call recognizing African talent
@mphoexecutive6794
@mphoexecutive6794 4 жыл бұрын
"Gees I hate this Question" But whose still watching this in 2020??????
@Snaz.z.z
@Snaz.z.z 4 жыл бұрын
Me Plz stop asking this crap
@leomamofokeng3486
@leomamofokeng3486 3 жыл бұрын
NO...YOU ACTUALLY LOVE DUMB QUESTION...for likes and comments...Internet retards always seeking for attention...There you have it!!!
@tladitshepang3698
@tladitshepang3698 6 жыл бұрын
There's no beef, thanks stogie T. Cass u safe
@manny8042
@manny8042 6 жыл бұрын
lmao he is mara if he try shyt, uzothola them BarZ!
@trillychi
@trillychi 6 жыл бұрын
Luv from Cameroon 🇨🇲
@knysna83
@knysna83 6 жыл бұрын
Don't mind me, I'm just back again for my daily viewing of this.
@kholomajazztic2334
@kholomajazztic2334 6 жыл бұрын
Until it hits 1M views.
@geshomnhlema4012
@geshomnhlema4012 3 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂 So am i
@waynewilliams3574
@waynewilliams3574 6 жыл бұрын
Much love to Stogie T for giving props to Cape Town as the birthplace of South African Hip Hop and for me to have been part of that movement since the mid 80's and early 90's is a blessing. Many people don't know this but Mitchell's Plain , Cape Town is where it all started and birthplace of the real pioneers of SA Hip Hop , Prophets of Da City and Black Noize who even made a buzz in the States back in the day. .. and maaan that was str8 BARS son! #proudSouthAfrican
@gaselamlangeni3675
@gaselamlangeni3675 6 жыл бұрын
Wayne Williams are you not forgetting BVK
@Davidmakgaka
@Davidmakgaka 6 жыл бұрын
Braasa van die kaap and your cashless society not forgetting Dj Reddy D....
@moketetsolo3399
@moketetsolo3399 6 жыл бұрын
Big Ups... I miss the Cashless Society!!!
@LB_die_Kaapie
@LB_die_Kaapie 6 жыл бұрын
Awê coloured powaa!
@sandilentshangase621
@sandilentshangase621 6 жыл бұрын
Big up to POC and Black Noise
@HeyJuuude-05
@HeyJuuude-05 6 жыл бұрын
proudly waving my flag today🇿🇦
@maxwellzwi
@maxwellzwi 4 жыл бұрын
2020 And I'm back here to pay Homage to Stogie T
@ayrmendina8314
@ayrmendina8314 6 жыл бұрын
Tumi's worplay is so fire!!! Like this is one of the best freestyles bar-for-bar on Sway's channel. Dripping with bars and charisma. Too many quotables! Flames!
@mosalamochela9387
@mosalamochela9387 5 жыл бұрын
I don't know how many times I've watched this, makes me so proud to be south African that 1 of our own really represented big time. Big ups to Stogie T but Sway needs to bring him back for the 5 fingers of death!
@alfaworkswolfpack1790
@alfaworkswolfpack1790 Жыл бұрын
2023 and I still came back to this again 💯
@thandisilec835
@thandisilec835 6 жыл бұрын
South Africa stand up! Your legend is in the house. Honestly South African hip hop cab body all the MCs on the continent🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🙌🏾
@mrsoshadabaadman
@mrsoshadabaadman Жыл бұрын
2023 still hard af.
@curtmcgirt4207
@curtmcgirt4207 6 жыл бұрын
The wakeup show always played international artists in the late 90's. Shoutout to Sway, King Tech and DJ Revolution. I still got those tapes!
@tsepongongoma6768
@tsepongongoma6768 6 жыл бұрын
🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦 that smile in the end said it all, he killed it and the bar has been set very high.
@Blebona
@Blebona 6 жыл бұрын
Pro verb, Amu, Zubs....omg Tuks Senganga!!! Get the legends that paved the way
@humphreylentsa6043
@humphreylentsa6043 6 жыл бұрын
StogieT ft Nas & Common, whose with me on tht? @sways please do ur magic on this combo my brother 🙏🏽✊🏿
@mthunzimhlongo660
@mthunzimhlongo660 4 жыл бұрын
YOU FORGOT BLACK THOUGHT
@humphreylentsa6043
@humphreylentsa6043 4 жыл бұрын
@@mthunzimhlongo660 moss definitely papa 🤜🏽🤛🏽
@siphosethupike5344
@siphosethupike5344 3 жыл бұрын
That would my childhood collab come true... Add Mos Def/Yasiin Bey, Rapsody, A Reece and Rouge!🔥🔥🔥
@humphreylentsa6043
@humphreylentsa6043 3 жыл бұрын
@@siphosethupike5344 tht would be dope as hell 🤟🏾🔥🔥🔥🔥
@atemkuol6029
@atemkuol6029 4 жыл бұрын
This is the best Freestyle in History of Rap Love from South Sudan. Africa Stogie T is The Rakim Of African Rap
@getupstandupsouthafrica9225
@getupstandupsouthafrica9225 6 жыл бұрын
Big up to Sway n the Team for putting South Africa up here stoogie t ✊🏾
@ymyles345
@ymyles345 6 жыл бұрын
NEVER BEEN MORE PROUD OF BEING AFRICAN U REPESNTED ARICA AS A WHOLE MAN LOVE FROM ZIMBABWE ........STOGIE T THIS WAS JUC TOO MUCH FLAMES .....CAN U ALSO PL GET PROVERB IN HERE
@theboykent
@theboykent 6 жыл бұрын
He represented SA the most
@philanimlotshwa2012
@philanimlotshwa2012 5 жыл бұрын
Lol...your comment makes me laugh bro
@theboykent
@theboykent 5 жыл бұрын
@@philanimlotshwa2012 lo Uyahlanya. Stogie put SA on the map
@dumang1704
@dumang1704 5 жыл бұрын
Yung miles I know how you feel one love family
@jaydee6178
@jaydee6178 5 жыл бұрын
@@theboykent Y'all being narrow minded and dumb... 😑
@mukukabwalyasheperd9048
@mukukabwalyasheperd9048 2 жыл бұрын
2022 , Stogie T's bars remain undefeated 🔥🔥 we'll never have any
@ubuntutv2864
@ubuntutv2864 6 жыл бұрын
Witnessing so many African Emcees receive so much love and showcasing such impeccable skills on an international platform such as SWAY's Universe gives me hope for the future of our African youth. I pray and hope our very own Black Vulcanite from Namibia can get the same opportunity to experience this platform in the future. Shout out to Sway Calloway​ for remembering us and providing this very important platform to the African youth. This is legendary and on behalf of the Heads in Africa, we salute and appreciate you and your entire crew. Peace and love.
@adedoyin3336
@adedoyin3336 5 жыл бұрын
Ubuntu TV facts
@godfather8510
@godfather8510 6 жыл бұрын
King T student of Hip hop this was not a Freestyle it was a History class Fiiirrrrreeee
@LyricistRightHere
@LyricistRightHere 3 жыл бұрын
Watched this interview like 5 times. Never gets old
@kg1994yah
@kg1994yah 6 жыл бұрын
These bars are heavy AF. This is the best stuff I've heard period
@jsmooth3239
@jsmooth3239 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for havin’ him on the show, Sway! 🔥
@xqizitman192
@xqizitman192 2 жыл бұрын
This never gets old whenever you listen to this freestyle always sounds like its the 1st time like you killed it.
@tshilidzindou6166
@tshilidzindou6166 6 жыл бұрын
On behalf of SA, We are very PROUD STOGIE T
@mahlatsevincentmakopo3143
@mahlatsevincentmakopo3143 6 жыл бұрын
Beast
@brainspasm592
@brainspasm592 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks man!!
@brainspasm592
@brainspasm592 6 жыл бұрын
Big ups to the big brother! Fire for real...
@tshepotjale7486
@tshepotjale7486 4 жыл бұрын
Mr Optimis aka Torch Kali🔥
@juliusngowi952
@juliusngowi952 6 жыл бұрын
Born In TANZANIA..Karibu tena man 🇹🇿
@mthunzimhlongo660
@mthunzimhlongo660 4 жыл бұрын
MAMBO SANA
@Leon_skyy
@Leon_skyy 8 ай бұрын
2024, i cant get enough of this😭🔥🔥🔥🔥
@mapsmaponyane2166
@mapsmaponyane2166 6 жыл бұрын
FINALLY!!! STOGIE T! THE NICEST WITH IT AND THE BEST LYRICIST TO DO IT OUT HERE! No debate! 🙌🏾
@excellentmkhatshwa3829
@excellentmkhatshwa3829 3 жыл бұрын
Hands down stogie it's a God n sway please get PROVERB on the show, we wanna show what South Africa can do
@slimtrimbeats908
@slimtrimbeats908 6 жыл бұрын
Americans invented rap, lost the way(mumble rap) now South Africans are on the quest to bring back the game with a lot of FIRE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! #StogieT
@vnmeast9360
@vnmeast9360 6 жыл бұрын
SlimTrim Beats nuh your reaching bro but T is setting a standard for South Africa...
@slimtrimbeats908
@slimtrimbeats908 6 жыл бұрын
@@vnmeast9360 yeah and in fact for everybody coz they got bring out their best
@UnclassifiedHotBoi
@UnclassifiedHotBoi 6 жыл бұрын
"Mumble rap" is more melodic and if you actually listen there will be lines that surprise you. The fundamentals of hip-hop and rap don't change (flow, lyrics, youthful exuberance) but what has changed is how it's delivered hence the change we see now. In my opinion, South African rappers are starting to bridge the gap between making music and rapping but that's also because of the current influences from America.
@UnclassifiedHotBoi
@UnclassifiedHotBoi 6 жыл бұрын
He has set the standard for SA rappers going on Sway to freestyle. Not necessarily the music being made.
@ttepsa
@ttepsa 5 жыл бұрын
FYI Africans rapped first Americans named it rap
@samkelosomdaka5728
@samkelosomdaka5728 4 жыл бұрын
I don't ever want to hear someone saying anyone else is the king of hip hop in south Africa for me this is the man right until I hear someone else who can top this.
@KatalisProductions
@KatalisProductions 6 жыл бұрын
Tumi / Stogie T has BEEN the dopest in Africa, for many years. Respect.
@NkanyeziN
@NkanyeziN 6 жыл бұрын
and some people are still sleeping on him
@slowboytq
@slowboytq 6 жыл бұрын
We've been represented out here. Dankie San!!
@modernafrica7180
@modernafrica7180 6 жыл бұрын
But come to Africa... You'll find ridiculous rappers from west Africa taking awards of best hip hop artists... Like WTF, they can't even rap anything... Big up to South African rappers, all of them...
@meilyn22
@meilyn22 6 жыл бұрын
Lol, you wish! Just because you rap in English doesn't mean you can rap. West Africans are the best Music wise in Africa and to some extent, the world 😂😂😂
@thesouthvibe7026
@thesouthvibe7026 6 жыл бұрын
Nah! Bro you're just hating west African music is the best that we have so far and it has broken boundaries across boarders . I'm south African and I don't understand why you fellow citizens hate on other African countries so much. That's shit ain't good bro!
@modernafrica7180
@modernafrica7180 6 жыл бұрын
@@thesouthvibe7026 There's a difference between Afrobeat and hip hop. Yes they very good with Afrobeat, but they can't rap bra. That nigga Ycee took award over nasty c, even Nigerians were complaining that Ycee doesn't rap. You trying to get unnecessary attention bruh.
@modernafrica7180
@modernafrica7180 6 жыл бұрын
@@thesouthvibe7026 I'm dissapointed in you fam... The biggest African hip hop scene is in South Africa. Look at the BET awards. It's only South African rappers who get nomination year after year... Which other rappers did that... Fam you hating your own people, west African are best musicians in Africa you can't argue that. But with hop hop, South Africans win...
@mrsimm9870
@mrsimm9870 6 жыл бұрын
@@meilyn22 we have no problem with anyone using their native language in hip hop. But trully speaking it is off no use because it only serves a few .......rather should I say a minority.....it you want to be seen world wide advise them to do a song in English. So we can all get the message .......( From there going forward we can talk)
@tanakandlovu4409
@tanakandlovu4409 6 жыл бұрын
This the dopest interview sways had with a African rapper
@andamela5607
@andamela5607 6 жыл бұрын
I would like to c stogie t ft 50 cent
@randomeixh3847
@randomeixh3847 6 жыл бұрын
@@andamela5607 he's better than 50
@artwellmudzingwa8890
@artwellmudzingwa8890 6 жыл бұрын
Assassin's
@melissasmith5059
@melissasmith5059 6 жыл бұрын
Man we waited 3 days for Sway to drop this ....MOESKONT I cant stop watching baf2 😭😭hai hai , this that play that shxt again type of rap ....Most Americans won’t get those bars NEVER baba......yeses those bars went over most American heads ...🤣🤣🤣Stogie why you gotta expose them like that ....Baxolele Groetmaan....Batswarele Hlem🙏🏾😭😭😭
@mrbrooks56
@mrbrooks56 6 жыл бұрын
This is pure fire
@djsbulive
@djsbulive 6 жыл бұрын
Mabangenwe
@mmakgosiseleka
@mmakgosiseleka 6 жыл бұрын
i also cant stop watching this!!!! fire
@lwazinxam
@lwazinxam 6 жыл бұрын
Dude, I watched it 100 times already.
@altheamusana4618
@altheamusana4618 Жыл бұрын
It's 2023 and I still watch this. It's the best👌🏽
@elementisfortune7200
@elementisfortune7200 6 жыл бұрын
This is how we should be represented, like Sogie T , like Trevor Noah, like Black Coffee.
@modernafrica7180
@modernafrica7180 6 жыл бұрын
No ciroc
@mphomatee4848
@mphomatee4848 6 жыл бұрын
@@modernafrica7180 lol
@nguboyengwekaluvuyo6219
@nguboyengwekaluvuyo6219 6 жыл бұрын
Word
@moemedileeu3488
@moemedileeu3488 6 жыл бұрын
FINALLY, the last O.G of SA Hip Hop's Battle-Rap-Era is getting the props he deserves 🙌🏽
@noqhamozibi8955
@noqhamozibi8955 2 жыл бұрын
Not the last OG in SA though mate... let's not spread false info in these social media streets... Tumi brought it though💥🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦
@sifundomqwala9595
@sifundomqwala9595 2 жыл бұрын
The excitement on sway's face is priceless, its nothing but love😎
@xolanikhoza8611
@xolanikhoza8611 6 жыл бұрын
Grootman Stogie T thank you so much for representing us. Thy freestyle was the best 🔥🔥🔥🔥💪👑 Best first freestyle on sway in the morning. Mr Sway people have voted, I don't know how it works, but Areece is next 🙌🙌🙌
@tshedisoabrahammotsumi2772
@tshedisoabrahammotsumi2772 6 жыл бұрын
#SHAKABONDE ... TUMI'S EASY FLOW IS BEAST MODE FOR ALOT OF CATS OUTCHEA... HES A NATURAL LYRICIST... S/O TO U STOGIE T...
@mwelasekamazibuko2949
@mwelasekamazibuko2949 6 жыл бұрын
Its Areece or a reaper back with two caskets...
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