South African Singer Tyla is NOT "Black" and that's OK+Speaks Out After Breakfast Club Drama

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[@Lovelyti_TV]

Once again Tyla is trending for her Colored controversy... here is a full break down of this drama! leave your thoughts and don't forget you can support by going to lovely-tees-2.creator-spring.com/ or lovelytea.net or cash app: $lovelytitv thanks in advance

[@breannibrown]

Stop with the one drop rule

[@TruStoriee]

Colored controversy 😩

[@Peaches_Cream455]

Ti, I think you meant that people lead with their “nationality” first and not “ethnicity”. You are right about respecting other cultures though because it is a matter of respect!🫡

[@chequemate449]

Yet you black Americans will use the Word Nicca not only from your mouth but it is the added ingredient in your dietary intakes 😂😂😂😂 So stupid

[@everythingtv2325]

Yeah, in South Africa, colored means mixed race instead of just black, white, Asian, or Indian. They use the word 'colored' to identify themselves, similar to saying mulatto, but they consider mixed-race. They are not classified as any of those races; they are colored.

[@weneedtodobetter2555]

As a Black American, I don’t care that Tyla identifies as coloured. She’s not from the same country or continent. South Africa does things differently and that’s fine. The REAL problem is, WHY are people still watching the breakfast club?!

[@jaymarie9423]

😂 not why are they still watching the breakfast club 😂

[@jarenfromvenus]

Lmboooo!!

[@toywideman1388]

❤

[@treasuresmith6217]

💯💯💯

[@treasuresmith6217]

💯💯💯

[@keekssss]

Dear people with 2 black parents please stop trying to control how mixed people identify.

[@Music-yq8qc]

We people with 2 black parents want people to stop calling themselves black, if they don't have 2 black parents

[@KasiaWater33]

Well tell the fake Jews they work for to stop trying to push them as representatives for ninjas. Your problem is not the people. It's these industries and their race bait games.

[@Mikanluvsyou]

This comment weird

[@helenewortham1840]

Makes me think that Kdot is a colorist.

[@petttroville5510]

Period

[@aichatoufall8553]

Crying about the word colored while yelling the n word every chance you get is wild😮

[@dede8089]

That part❗️

[@Sweetlady1916]

Yep, it doesnt make sense. Smh

[@robertfalcone3025]

​@@dede8089AGREE 💯! WTF is the difference between "COLORED" & being POC??!

[@Alwaysgotsum102say]

And dwelling in black culture to get black streams… her idol Rihanna is not from America states she’s black as well

[@wataki2]

extremely wildddd

[@ButterflyBree]

As a Black American woman, I don't see a problem with Tyla referring to herself as a "colored" woman. She's from South Africa and culturally "colored" doesn't mean the same thing, as in America. Black Americans have to stop claiming everyone who has brown, darker brown skin, and phenotypes!! Let people identify themselves without taking it as an attack on Black Americans culture. 😒😒🙄🙄🤷🏾‍♀️🤷🏾‍♀️

[@Chillikilli]

Thankyou

[@mokahgirl5165]

Yes, but these same people should not infiltrate the culture either as a lot of them do. Not saying Tyla is, but make sure you go on the Indian stations, the white stations, too to promote your music. 🤷🏾‍♀️

[@b.rose.a.7338]

Very well said!!! 🌹🌹🌹

[@suras8984]

@@mokahgirl5165 When you're a new singer you dont have much choice and you do what your told by your team. Its only when stars become more of a household name that they can take more liberty with the direction they want. Like Pink for example started out urban until she got a following and then switched to punk when she had more control over her artistry.

[@OliviaBaeBy]

black Americans need to pick up a damn book and learn something. They barely know their own history to be telling someone else what they are smh it’s sad The Library, google, travel, school etc.

[@Quiet1uadore]

Mixed people are not obligated to identify as black. This shouldn't be such a tough concept to grasp.

[@Music-yq8qc]

We don’t want mix people to identify as black period !!

[@sarahgirlisit]

Exactly

[@GeminiLove-mu5bb]

Right! It’s mind boggling that black ppl don’t understand this smh

[@sushimitten]

And we shouldn’t want them to identify as black either. It’s diluting the meaning and erasing blackness.

[@mh7067]

The government going to identify you by how you look idiot do you know how many dark skinned people are mixed and still classified as black?

[@mmakhautamalindi870]

Coloured is not only a race in South Africa its also a culture. Coloureds have their own unique culture which is different from us Black South Africans. 🇿🇦

[@Hotandspicy00]

What culture is that exactly?

[@SelfLoveACommunity13]

Oh okay, I didn’t know that.

[@lovelya4641]

​@@Hotandspicy00 food, language, slang. They are a separate group.

[@Kabkabmbujimayi]

❤❤❤❤

[@AnythingGoesx50]

@@SelfLoveACommunity13Exactly, y’all are uninformed.

[@juliusmagembe7040]

Why do people care? If she is mixed, she is mixed. What’s wrong with that? It’s factual.

[@MrJwyne]

Everyone is mixed.

[@adrienneroxanne9833]

​@@MrJwyne I'm not 😂

[@lisettes.9598]

Lmao, looking at your pic, yes you absolutely are. Some of y'all really don't understand how genetics work​@adrienneroxanne9833

[@juliusmagembe7040]

@@MrJwyne ok, so what’s the big deal?

[@mh7067]

Cause 90% of "black people" are mixed.

[@LFC4178]

I’ve been to South Africa and when I was there it was explained to me that colored is a race in South Africa. As a Black American I have to admit that a lot of us need to learn about other cultures and stop projecting. Just like the guy in the clip said; we’re not the main character in everybody’s story.

[@des_4444]

They project because they are lost 😭 all we know is "African American and black" . Those are continents and colors😭every other group of ppl have actually roots they can trace. "Blacks" are the lost people of the Bible for sure. We have to wake up. White Americans can say I'm American but I'm Irish. African Americans be like I'm Black we don't have anything else to go by so we desperately attached ourselves to ppl of color or from African

[@allme813]

FACTS!! ❤❤

[@faith1780]

Period!!!!

[@truthfactors9958]

Facts!!!!

[@BlendedBarbieDoll]

This!!!

[@numacamara]

Can we now talk about how Barack Obama is not our first black president. Maybe our first half black or mixed President.

[@IlikepurpleXP]

Who was raised by his white mother at that.

[@sonderexpeditions]

Well he aligns as black and has a black family. If he married a white woman we would have known he didn't align with the community and he wouldn't have even had tbe black vote. He's from a generation where mixed equals black.

[@Flying1.6cloud]

He's the first African president

[@sonyasees1022]

FAX,sista! They play us for a fool-get that fame and money,then book and have us running after them when they are NOT even one of us. Obama has no Ados parent. Why we let these industry/govt plants get us all upset? To hell with them!

[@tommykimon]

I've always called Obama mixed

[@reginagalvan-fb3yi]

It's not that complicated 🤦‍♀️just because it's considered a bad term in America doesn't mean South Africans have to change their language 🙄

[@Dtzeo503]

Right like what the lady said in the video Black people reclaimed the N word as a term of endearment which used to be an offensive word. So what's the problem with a South African ethnic group being called Coloured? Like it's not offensive to them so there shouldn't be an issue.

[@jamiAkos]

Does that mean Black Americans have to change? No. Neither has to change.

[@chellejohnson8880]

Exactly, the term "black" used to be offensive to us. Saying POC or people of color is still the same as colored people!

[@Bourne1998Era]

Agreed.

[@StopTheLiess]

@@jamiAkosyour forcing a South African to change their ideology it’s not the other way around

[@LittleMissDeeDee]

I feel like some Black Americans really struggle to accept that racial identity differs outside the US.

[@mybusinessnotyours8166]

No we don’t. We know there’s a difference but we don’t have to accept an offensive word

[@sayitasis8326]

@@mybusinessnotyours8166 then you don’t know the difference, it’s offensive to you but not South Africans, simple.

[@maryjs4878]

​@@mybusinessnotyours8166 You're saying that y'all don't have to accept an offensive word? But youse do, like being called "Black"

[@isabellaxoxo8357]

And many people struggle or don't care about the many racial identities INSIDE the US.

[@curtis-dj5bp]

Yes, but she is in the US. If she doesnt identify as black, she should not be featured in essense.

[@africanrumpunch7742]

Chile, i had a Trinidadian friend who was Indian and Spanish. Americans forced her to say she was "Black" because of her melanin. It doesn't make sense. Hopefully these discussions brings awareness.

[@justwannabeme5388]

You know you damn lie. Ain't no American tell someone who is Indian and Spanish to call themselves "Black" lol

[@acebutterfly2725]

Just curious, when you say Spanish do you mean from Spain? Because that would likely be a Euro background. However, there are plenty of mixed race with African ancestry from Latin, South America. I don’t know where you are from, but I noticed Blk Caribbean ppl often use that term, but they are not referring to ppl from Spain.

[@JinxSAW]

@@acebutterfly2725duh because not only people from Spain speak Spanish … doesn’t mean that their are from Spain.. that’s where y’all get Confused at..

[@bubblebass9992]

@@JinxSAWyou’re confused. Speaking Spanish doesn’t make you Spanish. It’s ignorant, that’s like saying Americans are English because they speak English. The correct term would be Hispanic….. no one is confused but y’all

[@JinxSAW]

@@bubblebass9992 how many languages can you speak honey ? I speak 3! English Spanish Portuguese

[@Toptierenergy]

The world is not a Tyler Perry movie kind of took me out 😩🤣

[@tugotthejuice]

Fr I cackled 😂😂😂😂

[@tinyking11]

🤣😂💀💀

[@catlady3024]

😂😂😂

[@WesternCultureIsDisgusting]

Exactly. Lol that was to funny 😂

[@followthebluebutterfly]

Ok ? 😂

[@BroJo676]

Biracial Drake was called White boy to demean him but mixed-race Tyla is the Blackest woman in the corner.

[@inmyOWN_world]

‼️

[@lolaispure4296]

​@inmyOWN_world exactly!!!!

[@reneegilbert9110]

Again black women giving our identity away

[@acestarone]

lol it's wild

[@jauharahsassy4477]

She is indian...you just want black women to have her features...self hate in silence

[@mjg239]

*It's strange how some people get upset with the term "Colored", but not when someone says "Person of Color" or "POC" it's basically the same thing.*

[@thesinfulgypsy]

It’s obviously not the same thing. American history and African history is different. Worlds apart. Colored is derogatory in America. It is not in south Africa. People get upset because black people were literally tortured by American society. Why tf do you not understand these basic concepts?

[@Kai_Mx]

​@@thesinfulgypsyand what do you think happened to coloured people and black people in South Africa 🙄

[@twb123]

@@thesinfulgypsy They don’t understand the hurt behind the word Colored and all the identifiers that were turned to derogatory labels that our people have had to live with in this country and don’t try to. These labels after a whole identity cleanse here in America is what our people have endured. Those of us whose ancestors were sold by some of their’s from the continent don’t think about that and have no empathy in their hearts at all. Instead they mock us, disrespect, belittle, and even come to America and help WS against us but we gone be alright.

[@nothx512]

And MINORITY too

[@dr_blueman]

Where I'm from Tyla would never be called a Black woman. She would be called Mixed because of her multiracial and multicultural background.

[@AfroGirl5852]

Exactly!

[@backforthelasttime]

Makes sense to me 🤷🏽‍♀️

[@n.1lza]

That’s how it is in most predominantly black countries. I am Mozambican and we call people like her mixed or Indian, since she looks more Indian than anything

[@BirdieBlue5602]

In South Africa we're coloured as we have our own culture and not all of us is mixed with black.

[@b3tt3rfad3d]

I don’t believe that for a second lmao 😂

[@katie2843]

She literally explained the term and how it means something different in South Africa and folks still losing they minds. That lady hit the nail on the head when she pointed out that African Americans have integrated the N word into our culture despite its history but can’t handle coloured being used in a diff connotation.

[@Dtzeo503]

Right some of the comments here are going nuts 😂.

[@lasontaphillips6618]

Yes just like the lgbtq took queer and f*g and reclaimed it but you call them that and it would be considered a hate crime. And we're not going to talk about the many words you can't say to or about Jewish people.

[@amab1853]

👏

[@thatfirstone]

"coloured" is an ethnic group within the black race. "Coloured" is not a race. Tyla, and the uploader of this video, don't know that.

[@Dtzeo503]

Oop there they go.

[@str0wb3rry9irl]

Tyla isn’t black. Idk why this is an issue for people.

[@KierraJoanee]

Exactly !!! Rage baiting

[@loralita5837]

It’s an issue because black Americans were supporting because they believed that she was black

[@onedirecton20]

she's coloured not black

[@JinxSAW]

She said that she wasn’t fully … it’s yall that are hard in the head.. she been saying that ..

[@soul2soul4]

​@@JinxSAWSelective hearing

[@kandigirl10]

As a Black American woman, I'm embarrassed. The country as a whole really needs to know the difference between race, ethnicity and nationality and how nuanced those differences can be. I liked how Ti explained this.

[@Peaches_Cream455]

Facts 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾. However, Ti kinda mixed up ethnicity and nationality in this video too.

[@kandigirl10]

@@Peaches_Cream455 I see your point.

[@truthtorpedo4068]

​@@Peaches_Cream455She didn't mix anything up. She doesn't know. She's very uninformed about quite a few issues.

[@amab1853]

I agree!! This tyla backlash is embarrassing AF for Americans. Our issues in America with systemic racism is why this country can never reach it's fullest potential. Tyla is probably shocked by this backlash. Like lovelyti said the world does not revolve around America!! In South Africa colored is how tyla identifies. She did nothing wrong. It makes Americans sound ill informed and it's not a good look. More people from the U.S. need to travel so they can think from a global mindset

[@ElleDan87]

im embarrassed too..like d@mn..leave the girl alone!

[@rimiag]

This is why it’s important to travel and learn about other countries outside of your own🥴

[@Alainesteph]

Right! Thank you!

[@Alexis-ln2hp]

Exactly

[@deed2157]

I was curious about other cultures long before I started traveling and knew this. There is internet now that can educate someone about anything so there is no excuse now. Being open and curious is key bec they're ignorant travelers too who know nothing about the countries they visit and stay in the resorts.

[@truthtorpedo4068]

Or at a bare minimum, get lost in the world of books and educate yourselves.

[@TDoubleYu]

Tell that to South Africans as well since they didn’t understand Black American history either

[@nicoobrowner]

Even if Americans force her to identify as black, we, black South Africans will never claim her as black. We LOVE HER, but she isn't one of us.

[@loralita5837]

We don’t need her to be black. A lot of people thought she was and supported her because of that.

[@slinkiegirl2001]

and she is not FBA either

[@MIA-fq1di]

This right here!!!!!

[@lotusphoenix8]

‼️‼️‼️‼️

[@KS3_Samela]

Ikhaladi

[@mawnee3000]

Biracial and mixed people don’t have to identify as Black.

[@samanthabrown842]

exactly

[@S.412-q3q]

They shouldn't

[@QaheemJehan]

I still have NOT talk to one black American who claims Tyla is black,and from my understanding COLORED people in South Africa think they are whole OTHER race above black south Africans and silly you thinking it’s about being mixed but the rabbit hole goes much deeper🙏🏾

[@OhDatsJaVion]

Exactly! But she needs to say mix The term colored means to be above dark skin Africans

[@Play4keeks]

I agree. I don't think they should have to. They are who they are. Being multiracial is not a sin. I actually think the more multiracial ppl are accepted as is, the more racism should go away. Ppl are ppl and race is just another way to keep ppl divided.

[@AmillionRays]

That lady said she colored...she is colored!! Leave that lady alone!!

[@Enigmajestic1]

Coloured, its not the same but i hear you

[@loveusyendi.7621]

She's also a bit slow

[@Enigmajestic1]

Wow everybody comments getting blocked whole thread,😂😂😂😂😂 or did everyone block me or suttin

[@ayanaquinn]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@mjg239]

*It's interesting how Trevor Noah (also South African and mixed) never had to go through this while on the Breakfast Club.* And he's way more equipped at talking about South African race politics than this young 22-year-old popstar. I hope Trevor brings this Tyla topic and the "coloured"/race in US vs South Africa controversy up in one of his upcoming comedy shows or if he comes back on the Breakfast Club.

[@athenkosisiyolo]

He is mixed and not coloured. He is the only Mixed one in his family on the other hand being coloured is a whole culture. Tyla's parents are coloured and probably her Grandparents... She ain't black akengo Darkie

[@acebutterfly2725]

Trevor is biracial, though, he is not coloured why would this be his burden?

[@mjg239]

@@acebutterfly2725 still a South African racial Topic. And people are fascinated by the race politics in SA vs. USA. Wouldn’t necessarily be off limits to him. He could also provide some insight into SA culture that his audience wouldn’t be aware of

[@acebutterfly2725]

@@mjg239 Yes, I am aware that it is a SA topic. Would you think it appropriate or within limit for. a YT SA to have this same conversation? Just curious.

[@corpin08]

He already has..its one on of his comedy specials . Son of Patricia. I'm Zimbabwean but live in Australia and trust me, we DON'T consider mixed, biracial, Indians etc as BLACK. because their not. Similar to Amber Rose, Zendaya etc...their not black. Get over it

[@Sm84641]

Tyla is similar to what we call "coolie" in Jamaica. Which means mixed with Indian and black. Its a beautiful mix and Tyla clearly is a beauty. I dont think she hates her "blackness". I think she identifies as she is. Let her live. Geeesh😢

[@OhDatsJaVion]

That’s understandable! But colored in South Africa means to be above the dark skin South Africans. It’s a hold over from apartheid! We have to remember apartheid just ended in south Africa 30 years ago! Pretty recent

[@patientramatlhatse4457]

And in South Africa "koolie" ("coolie") is a derogatory term used towards Indian people. It's crazy how words carry different meanings around the world.

[@RosalíaLR]

As a Jamaican is bob Marley considered black? Just curious

[@piecesoflyric5945]

@@OhDatsJaVion you can tell with how they deal with each other

[@95luannaable]

In Guyana 🇬🇾 “Coolie” is a 💯 percent Indian person. “Dougla” is a person mixed with Indian and black.

[@laurenpenn3634]

AS AN AFRICAN AMERICAN WOMAN I DON'T WANT TYLA CO-OPTING MY IDENTITY😅SHE DOESN'T EVEN LOOK BLACK WHY ARE PPL FORCING HER TO CLAIM SOMETHING SHE'S NOT.

[@blackvelvet1845]

Because some black people hate themselves so much that they will try to make any mixed race person black to make themselves feel better about being black the self hatred is very real.

[@kitsontuli2713]

Exactly, as a South African, we don't even recognize them as Black, cause Black has deeper meaning here.

[@truthtorpedo4068]

Tyla is literally not even blzcccck. She looks Indian.

[@astroprotector]

you must be naive to the fact that Black Americans have been terrorizing Dominicans over this very same issue. Black Americans going around terrorizing people of color into being black. this shit crazy.

[@missj5564]

We should just enjoy her music and not worry about her ethnicity or race.

[@mayacincosa6975]

Here's the thing. Most black Americans think that blacks around the world are black American. We are not. There is a big world outside of America. There are stark differences between Africans, Black Americans, and Caribbeans. That is all.

[@TheKat-y2d]

No Black American thinks Africans or Caribbeans are Black American 😂

[@Da_Vinchi_Code]

I didn’t even know this was still a thing. I respect Tyla for what she wants to be identified as but as an American I would never call her Coloured. I don’t call her Black either. I just identify her as South African

[@mysteryelysian]

Yes I have friends from different countries in Africa and they really don't iidentify by race but by country Example: I'm Egyptian, Congolese, Nigerian, etc.

[@Jake_Moreno]

I co-sign 100%

[@TOMIEUNDEAD]

Colored is considered a race in South Africa so that is what you should call her The world doesn't revolve around Americans and what Americans think

[@DunDone_IT5252]

Exactly 💯

[@sufi8903]

​@@webnerd-ny6wdshe's not mixed Trevor Noah is mixed not her

[@genevascales5928]

This is crazy. People worrying about her claiming black, but we can't even stick together as black people

[@genielove91]

Unfortunately, black people never will. 💁🏽‍♀️

[@neeciiw7840]

U better tell them💯

[@Enigmajestic1]

Alexa..... play MJ wanna be startin something 😂😂😂😂

[@icyunvme2400]

A black person not claiming black is a perfect example (jk)

[@RachaelBluee]

Exactly!!

[@busterwilliams823]

I feel like Tyla is in a loose/loose situation. In every other country, she can identified as mix or whatever. In America and to her American audience, she has to identify as black because black people in America love the 1% drop rule. Other mix artists like Drake are in the same situation. If she would have claim black from the beginning then it would have been, “you are not fully black”, “clearly you are mix because of your features”. If she would have claimed mix, then it would be “but you’re black because you have a black parent”.

[@brownsugako7772]

There are A LOT of us that been feeling like Kendrick, they not like us! I don't claim that 1 drop rule BS, if you ever been around an American mixed person, they are different - unless raised around all Black people. Most of us know this. Those days of us claiming everyone is going away, I'm seeing it more and more.

[@user-dv3kq3rm4h]

@@brownsugako7772 Go express your diaspora war mindset elsewhere, no one cares, even Ti said it was BS in this same video.

[@michelleforte8669]

It is a lose-lose situation for her and other mixed artists in respects to our U.S.A. That's the old One Drop Rule need to be abolished by our black community. I am not calling someone who is clearly biracial or mixed "black". Let people identify as they want.

[@DeePie2024]

Exactly! If she had denied being coloured - They would have said she is being disohonest and claiming black when she is not - If she says she is coloured - She is being disrespectful. That is whay she no longer wants to answer this question.

[@bubblebobblefullthrottle]

This shows how confused we are about our own heritage. Slavery and the derivatives from it like the one drop rule have done such a disservice to us. When you look at where this desire to claim any person with a hint of brown as Black comes from, it's really sad. I pray for my people to be freed from this perception daily.

[@roshellegouldbourne787]

Amen 🙏🏿

[@kristineilochi4615]

FACTSSSSS!

[@StopTheLiess]

lol she’s African she doesn’t have to follow your strange beliefs. Africans don’t come from Americans we were here well before your country was thought of

[@QaheemJehan]

I haven’t heard one black American claim Tyla 🤦🏾‍♀️

[@tututhebudgie2154]

I said the same thing slavery and racism have both African Americans and South Africans proudly claiming titles that were meant to degrade them. It sad.

[@LawChatsWithMadeline]

A South African here: in our country we have distinct racial groups being black, white, coloured and Indian. Saying you're coloured is not a racial slur in our country. Trevor Noah already explained it to y'all! The USA needs to stop imposing it's way of doing things on others.

[@roshellegouldbourne787]

Thank you, it's very annoying, many Americans think that they are the mouth piece for the entire World.

[@muzo]

@@piecesoflyric5945do Americans do the same when the go to africa, I’ve never seen a mixed race American call themselves coloureds in Africa, but you expect us to call ourselves black in America, the double standard. In case you start with the nonsense, mixed race Americans do travel to Africa.

[@kel2481]

@@piecesoflyric5945In the first video ti played of Tyla she explained it quite well. In South Africa coloured and black is two completely different races and cultures as well. As a South African coloured person who has gone to America, I also had to tiptoe around this subject in the hopes to not offend anyone.

[@n.1lza]

@@piecesoflyric5945why do you feel so entitled to think all black people should change their way to appease y’all? She said from the beginning she’s South African and coloured. Also she doesn’t make American music, Americans are inviting her she didn’t force them to interview her

[@missy.j4523]

@@piecesoflyric5945well maybe the world doesn’t revolve around the USA. U have technology at ur disposal and both can take time to learn about cultures outside of where you come from. Lord Jesus

[@TheRachaelhussey]

It’s very different in Ireland too. We would call her mixed race.rarely we would call someone mixed ‘black’ and she’s south East Asian, white&black.she would be denying her other roots.glad she stood up for herself. The US are very rigid on the one drop rule

[@heavenly894]

Im grateful that this content creator actually addressed this sensitive topic with such respect. Thank you, from a Zulu South African girlie❤

[@Lovelyti_TV]

You’re so welcome 🙏🏽

[@mariettajanssen815]

🎉

[@itsyagirlsoso8277]

Me too. The Lovely Ti is well spoken and educated. I also appreciated that !!

[@meeksluv]

​@@Lovelyti_TVThank you T as a Bahamian woman I never understood American obsession with race. When you said "I'm Jamaican, I'm BAHAMIAN I said correct that's exactly how we address it. Like leave the woman alone already she don't owe nobody an explanation.

[@BlackHeather777]

Cancel Charlemane asap ‼️ I still don’t like how he played Lil Mama calling her struggle face to the point she was crying. He’s a real roach.

[@lorraine96smith56]

Add to that Jessica Reid, sniffing woman's seats saying disgusting and vulgar things to women, laughing about putting things in women's drinks, bullying! Why has this man been allowed to hide in plain sight?

[@julieah1000]

Imagine being coloured all your life in South Africa 🇿🇦 and then going to the states and now your culture and race is unimportant and you are labelled as black. Being black and being coloured is different in South Africa. Understand her background and history before coming for her. If she says she is black, it would be disrespectful and disowning her people.

[@Ennegro]

That Tyler Perry comment sent me to oblivion lmao.

[@Li-oz1ux]

Lolololol 😂😂😂

[@LorenCLoren]

I think the root of the issue is that a lot of Black Americans aren’t proud of their Blackness. There’s this really weird desire to “diversify” it and it shows most blatantly in who gets casted as “black women” on our sitcoms and movies (i.e. how did original Aunt Viv and Uncle Phil produce Hillary Banks?). We want to call everyone Black to validate our Blackness when it’s valid, it’s enough, it’s beautiful the way it is. This is really getting embarrassing, our community has a lot of healing to do.

[@mrjayducat]

na black americans are proud of their blackness..dont know where u heard that nonsense from

[@rickaa1957]

you couldn’t have said it better!

[@heavenly894]

Your comment deserves more likes🙌🏾

[@amab1853]

Well said!! I agree.

[@verlan3293]

As a tweet I read said: "It’s about their own internalized anti-blackness, and the desirability of mixed race people they love to pedestal and live vicariously through". That's why they get so upset when mixed people like Tyla do not succumb to their bullying because they can't use her as a tool to assuage their insecurities.

[@Gorlplease876]

As a Jamaican I kinda get where she’s coming from cause when I hear people referring to us as African Americans I ask myself what are we talking about. All black people don’t identify as “African Americans” we have high colored Jamaicans who are referred to as “browning” or “brown” I don’t think they’d take kindly to being referred to as black. The world is not America alone and that’s fine. Let people identify as they do.

[@Tra_C]

If she identifies as colored, then that's fine with me. I have more important things to think about.

[@sufi8903]

She is coloured.... As a South African, the moment she opens her mouth I know she's coloured..that goes for any coloured well most..

[@Lee_Nolo]

😂😂😂😂

[@icyunvme2400]

I need this unbothered energy

[@huldah1605]

Literally 😂

[@noellegardner9800]

Yall putting American standards on a South African woman who is a visitor here. I’m sleep

[@ASprinkleofAnime]

That's not American standards. Some of us do not believe in the one drop rule

[@StopTheLiess]

@@ASprinkleofAnime one drop rule is also an American standard the rest of us never heard of

[@samanthabrown842]

@@StopTheLiessexactly

[@nicolenikita9325]

Yes a visitor and someone who got famous off black American style.

[@1mochadelightable]

😂

[@isabellaxoxo8357]

Even though Tyla isn't black, people w Tyla's phenotype are typically seen as black in the US. The issue for some black people is that people w her phenotype, regardless of where they're from, will use that as a pass for black movie roles, to move in R&B or Hip Hop circles, fashion, etc. and then the next thing out their mouth is 'ugh im not black, stop calling me black, I'm coloured, mixed, multi-ethnic'. Trying to move like this will usually not work for that person once they try it in the U.S. bc, yes, we're gonna ask, "Are you us.....or are you not us?"

[@jnacd]

Exactly!!!

[@decepticon8000]

How would Tyla solve that then?

[@MyChannel-ul3tm]

Why does it matter what they are if you like the music? In other countries they like what sounds good to them, not depending what color or race the singer is. Black Americans have such serious identity issues and everything is identity politics to them

[@crispri3919]

@@decepticon8000 By not going on the breakfast club for one thing lol. Her team is not versed in black culture enough to know the breakfast club is super inflammatory and ignorant show and will say ignorant stuff to everyone (monique as a big example) black or not. She is way too shy and reserved to be on the breakfast club.

[@michelleforte8669]

Exactly

[@rerebrook5057]

A few things: 1. Her team is marketing her to Black culture 2. The Grammys tried to make her the face of African music with that win. 3. She perpetuates the Black aesthetic Colored in South Africa is used to place that group above Blacks in SA. I’m a US manager who works remote and I have a team of people under me in South Africa. The racial disparities are still prevalent there, and I see all this working remotely.

[@sayitasis8326]

She’s South African with a South African flare if that reminds you of being a black American it’s because she’s from an African country

[@DiaExMachina]

​@@sayitasis8326 SAY IT LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK

[@rerebrook5057]

@@sayitasis8326 you completely missed the point, which is sad.

[@keekssss]

Be real those labels know who you guys support the most, that’s why they are marketing her Cardi, Drake, ice spice etc. to you guys cause y’all eat it up every time instead of supporting the people that look like you.

[@roshellegouldbourne787]

​@@rerebrook5057 Exactly, they cannot see the writing on the wall. A backwards race of People. Smh.

[@MulattaMermaid1]

Being mixed race you will get bashed for calling yourself mixed but you will also get bashed if you call yourself black… and its crazy bc people act like they don't see it

[@BeautiDon]

Right smh!

[@uzo9887]

Yeah it’s actually weird.

[@MulattaMermaid1]

Right we can't win we will offend someone either way

[@uzo9887]

@@MulattaMermaid1 I’m not of your struggle but obviously I agree. I actually heard a close family member say it wasn’t a good idea for parents to make a mix child cause it’s not fair to the child. The comment was made in regard to the identity struggle.

[@MulattaMermaid1]

@@uzo9887 I think things would go smoother if people just called us mixed that way it's no confusion

[@MISSVERONICA3]

As a black Brit with Ugandan parents, thank you for breaking it down for those that do not understand.👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿

[@meeksluv]

Exactly I'm Bahamian and we identify just the way she said it. And my mother is Bahamian and father is Italian. But here we don't say bi racial or mixed. I'm Bahamian/Italian.

[@meeksluv]

"Black" Americans need some real healing.

[@Hotandspicy00]

You are not black brit, you are Ugandan!

[@MISSVERONICA3]

@@Hotandspicy00 yes I am Ugandan, I was trying to state that I'm from the UK and black. Anyone ask where I'm from I say Uganda.🥰

[@alivanessa134]

@@Hotandspicy00Do you not understand the difference between nationality and ethnicity. The uk most are black from African and carribean descent

[@Michelle.8276]

As a “Black-British” person what you’re saying is completely correct. In the UK if someone asks you where are you from we immediately answer with what country/what our ethnicity is

[@mikasjewels5772]

Very true this is because black people in the UK are not indigenous to that land. Black people in America pre-date the American revolution and did not immigrate here willingly.

[@kaylat7063]

@@mikasjewels5772yupppp

[@lhc3802]

Out of curiosity, what do Black British people identify as who do not have parents, grandparents, great grandparents, etc from another country who may kinda look like me (a Black American with roughly 75/25 genetic makeup)? Do they identify with another country first? And I’m only speaking of those that have a typical American Black look- if that makes sense. I would love to know!❤

[@Foboi-hm1rf]

The point is all you other non FBA melanated people are users. Steal from FBA all the time but doesn't want anything to do with us. Reason we are delineating now.

[@AnythingGoesx50]

Yeah, I think these guys are a little less informed about the topic but it’s okay at least they are learning.

[@jenniferbgorg]

I think everyone needs to stop speaking on behalf of African Americans, we can speak for ourselves.🙄 Just because a few of us on the internet are offended by this doesn’t mean the rest of us can’t grasp the concept of what Tyla identifies as. Meanwhile a lot of foreigners want to make YT channels making money from Black American culture, then want to throw us under the bus whenever petty controversy arises on social media. Personally I’m not offended because I don’t care that much. Most of us have better things to do.

[@harlemw651]

Lookin' at you Kai 👀👀

[@YouAhdaMnLie]

THANK YOU!!! We really dont care!

[@kellya1274]

As a mixed person, this happens in real life. The internet is real too. This racial policing is a huge problem with black Americans

[@vivalalirpa]

Stop generalizing. Idgaf about biracials nor do i have a beef with them. It just​@@kellya1274

[@OhDatsJaVion]

Like this particular channel! Which is by a whole 3rd world degenerate immigrant via Nigeria who don’t even comment on anything involving Africa she simply stay up black American business

[@chrystamonique5657]

Even Lupita Nyong'o said coming to the United States was the first time she really had to consider herself as “black” and had to learn the importance of race in American society.

[@brandonoliver2161]

In short, US people really need to do a better job of learning the difference between race, ethnicity, and nationality

[@astroprotector]

US people? Uhhh no. You mean Black Americans. They are the only ones exhibiting lack of understanding.

[@pinkstar9430]

People be confused out here!! 😅 plus America always want to put everyone in a BOX! Let’s not forget.

[@b3tt3rfad3d]

No we don’t

[@whyaminotoriginal]

I honestly think it's yall confused here. We don't see her as black. We don't want to hear from tyla. I think this is her way of getting attention now.

[@astroprotector]

@@whyaminotoriginal nah y all obsessed with making people black. yall terrorized dominicans for years with that sht. yall got a history of this shit.

[@Theocita]

Love Tyla! Her music is great! I don't know why we as black people want to claim every drop of black. GOOGLE IS FREE! A quick search could have ended this convo. I agree with Ti. Being from the Caribbean, I always known I was black but we emphasize our nationality first. When I came to America and people as what am I said my nationality.

[@seanna619]

Lol No, I dont need to do a Google search to know that if you call me colored here in America, I'm swinging. I don't really care what they do in South Africa. tbh I've only heard one song from her, so I don't really care about her music. No offense. Lol. But if you call me colored, refer to my first statement.

[@Peaches_Cream455]

Do you mean that you emphasize your nationality? Not trying to put words into your mouth but needed clarification

[@Theocita]

@@Peaches_Cream455 yes nationality I meant. Thank you for correcting me. I used the wrong word

[@lynnd.5135]

Caribbeans are black though. Everyone knows this. So not sure why Caribbeans lead with I am Jamaican, i am Dominican etc. These are blacks trying to distance themselves from blackness. Tyla is coloured which is very different from the blackness of Caribbeans. Tyla has no black culture. Trevor noah is a coloured with black culture because his mother is fully black and raised by blacks. Not Tyla. She knows this and so can't represent black women. Americans are weird. Isnt this the same argument for Cardi, dani leigh, doja cat. You are all so quick to call these women nonblack. So how different is dani leigh to Tyla?

[@DrKrysRacquel]

As someone familiar with this culture through my black friend from South Africa, Coloured people DEFINITELY don’t want to be considered black. They get preferential treatment in S Africa similar to mixed people in the US. My black friend attended a mostly Coloured school growing up and there is a lot of discrimination. They discriminate against black people and some white people discriminate against thEM (Coloured) but not to the extent the white people discriminate against blacks. Yes, they are mixed people and yes they have a unique culture. Compare it to how black people in the United States include black people, light skinned people, mixed people and there is a culture. It’s similar to Coloured people having a culture. During Apartheid the Indians, Others, and Mixed people were all thrown into one community and they continued to keep mixing among themselves. And I have always said that lumping all people of color together causes true black American people (like 80%African or more) and dark skinned black Americans to lose out on opportunities. As the lady in the video said, white people casting will just continue to choose mixed and light people since they are all considered black - SADLY

[@user-dv3kq3rm4h]

Exactly, what I said in my comment above. However Tyla is definitely cosplaying hard with the cornrows, prints and mannerisms etc. I'm from a light skinned family and I remeber hearing about a South African coloured woman being shocked that my grandmother considered herself Black, 'cause what an awful thing to be right? (sarcasm) My husband also got told: 'Us coloureds have to stick together.' When he is literally Caribbean and not a South African 'Coloured.' I've got other stories but you catch my drift!

[@Kai_Mx]

​@@user-dv3kq3rm4hcosplaying with the braids? Have you ever been to South Africa? Coloured girls braid their hair all the time into cornrows and braids. Not every coloured person has straight hair. In fact many have 4C hair. You are looking at her through the lens of an American where everything to you is about race and cultural Appropriation. In South Africa we have bigger issues to worry about than to care about coloured or white people doing braids. We literally 30years from Apartheid where most of us have parents who lived through that and wear the scars of that time and you think as a country we are concerned about what hair style people have 🙄. SA is more than 70% black obviously she will be influenced by black culture. Her best friend is black, her own sister " looks" black.

[@DrKrysRacquel]

@@user-dv3kq3rm4h Yes exactly! And some will say Coloured is a culture and not just mixed people but then as you said you will see certain Coloured people also considering mixed people part of their community. (For anyone unfamiliar - In South Africa mixed would be someone who has one parent from one race and another from another race…whereas Coloureds would be from that group that were separated out during Apartheid and kept mixing over the years) Anyway, thank you for your examples. I do think Tyla knows what she is trying to do by targeting black people as her audience.

[@acebutterfly2725]

@@user-dv3kq3rm4h 🎯

[@trey8872]

The people causing all this discourse are the same ones who think Africa is a country.

[@roshellegouldbourne787]

Ooooooooop.

[@nainai91]

The way this made me giggle 🤭

[@YouAhdaMnLie]

The way y’all come in this app and disrespect Black Americans over some mixed girl using a term we think is hateful is wild af

[@kitsontuli2713]

BINGO!

[@Bassdrumkick]

​@@YouAhdaMnLieLol you still don't get it. You'll be ayt

[@sjohnson4420]

It’s fascinating, today’s society says accept whatever title people put on themselves. But when it comes with Tyla’s identity she better say black

[@Ambi1021]

Thank you! 👏🏾

[@ASprinkleofAnime]

The uneducated ones!! I do not claim mixed people

[@ASprinkleofAnime]

The uneducated ones!! I do not claim mixed people

[@ASprinkleofAnime]

The uneducated ones!! I do not claim mixed people

[@ASprinkleofAnime]

The uneducated ones!! I do not claim mixed people

[@crystallize369]

Thanks for clearing that up Ti because ngl I was confused 🤔 when I would hear Jamaican pple say "I'm not black I'm Jamaican" Now it makes more sense to me🧠 ty!! 🤍

[@Tiaxxxxxooooo]

Zendaya is not black but people will argue that she is like noooo lol she’s biracial , J Cole , Drake lol 😂 I can’t believe people are even coming at Tyla

[@icyunvme2400]

Zendaya claims black so that’s different. None of them are being forced. There’s celebrities who claim mixed or biracial by choice too. Clearly they are whatever they want to be.

[@nicoobrowner]

America needs to realize how this inclusivity has led to the slow erasure of phenotypic 'black women'. Growing up as a young South African girl, I only saw the Zendeya's of the world in American women. To my surprise, when I finally met a black American women I was blow away that she actually looked like US, black people. We never saw dark skinned, kinky textured hair women in American media.

[@erinfromorion]

Cause she's not American lol

[@chinaking918]

Ijs what is wrong with the ppl? Tyla look mixed where is the confusion?

[@JWW77]

There are mixed people in America that identify as black, its fact. Should they be forced to identify in that way...no.

[@JerseyGurlNolaGuurrl]

Being more educated about this subject. African Americans should sit this one out.

[@Damami4U]

Exactly 🫶🏿

[@mrjayducat]

naw they need to sit in! its showing what delineation actually looks like. blacks still on this we all the same and its been false..jesse jackson and them boys back in the days started calling everybody African Americans and that was stupid. no we black Americans, yes many mixed with slaves from trans-atlantic..but alot mixed with indigenous roots too..they made this catch all term to muddy the waters. our lineage is tied to here..just like every other culture lineage is tied to where they at..haitians, jamaicans, dominicans, bajans, etc.

[@jarenfromvenus]

African Americans need to leave behind all their brainwashing and indoctrination. Pseudo-science literally runs our day to day life.

[@ASprinkleofAnime]

The uneducated ones!! I do not claim mixed people

[@ASprinkleofAnime]

The uneducated ones!! I do not claim mixed people

[@MINORTHINGS99]

I lived in South America for over 2yrs. Everyone thought I was a Dougla solely based on my hair. It was a great opportunity to explain Americans' culture and family structures.

[@SuzeeBee73]

To keep asking after she's already explained, seems like bullying. Different countries have different lingo

[@cynara7568]

SMH at this point I am just HUMAN

[@jarenfromvenus]

That's actually always been the case. Black is the fake label.

[@CHELSEABuckhannon]

All this shit stupid

[@neeciiw7840]

Soon we won’t be able to say that coz of AI😫

[@SMV20500]

❤ God made us all in His image.

[@acebutterfly2725]

@cynara Until you keep missing out on opportunities to ‘other humans’.

[@stefaniefreebird6687]

Tyla considering herself as a coloured woman is not a problem or a disconnect or an issue, but when you're expecting to entertain Black folk in America it means something when they asked. As long as tylar or whom ever else outside of America or plan to entertain black Americans for their cash will 9 times out of 10 have to answer that question. And that is an American thing. It is what it is

[@acebutterfly2725]

@stefanie Agreed. I made a similar comment. Why is she wearing cornrows, which is associated with Blk ppl and culture if she doesn’t want to be perceived as such? Alicia Keys intentionally came out with that style, to differentiate herself from Mariah and to gain credibility or support from Blk ppl.

[@acebutterfly2725]

@@evamathebula4448 What or who are the major influences of non American artists? I’ll wait.

[@acebutterfly2725]

@@evamathebula4448 Sam Smith and K-pop are not influenced by Blk culture or Blk Americans? Okay 😂 Sam got a wake up call when he disrespected the late M Jackson.

[@acebutterfly2725]

@@evamathebula4448 Not at all. Call it for what it is cultural appropriation. She wants to benefit from blackness, when it is convenient when she is not not Blk. Are you trying to say that there is no ray cial hierarchy even in SA that she is benefiting from? Of course not. Further, this has nothing to do with one-drop rule. If a yt SA was doing the same thing that wouldn’t be problematic? Good day.

[@Peaches_Cream455]

People should stay away from the Breakfast Club at this point. They have been nothing but disrespectful!

[@b3tt3rfad3d]

Everyone is so sensitive now. That’s their job what do you want them to do? Ask them questions about what’s their fav color? 😂😂😂

[@LadyChann]

Word !

[@KinkyXristian]

Hit the nail on the head with Americans calling each other the N word but getting offended at the word "colored" bish it didn't make sense to me either. Both terms make me cringe 😂😂😂😂😂

[@Enigmajestic1]

Especially now POC is acceptable, went full circle but standing on hypocrisy 😂😂😂

[@piecesoflyric5945]

That word is not what BA classify themselves as a race or ethnicity on job applications. We don’t refer to ourselves as the N word as a race category. This is such a silly viewpoint.

[@rodb66]

I doubt most of us Black Americans consider Tyla as black but it seems like everyone has smoke for Black Americans even other Black Americans. Yet these artist want to be accepted by Black Americans.

[@user-dv3kq3rm4h]

As a Black British person I agree. If a Black American doesn't want to use the term 'coloured' because of the history, why is that a problem? It seems to me like people in these comments are just shucking and jiving because of how Tyla looks and it's honestly embarrassing. People can call her mixed or multi-racial and keep it moving.

[@ThandwefikaTanzie]

I cannot believe that this is still a conversation 🤦🏽‍♀️. On behalf of all South Africans, we are tiiiiiiiiiirrrreeeeeddddd of this.

[@kitsontuli2713]

Sizwile yong!!!! They don't want to be corrected or educated, ai!

[@souniquelyme7904]

This is educational for me as a Black woman from America. I can understand how this topic can be misunderstood if you’ve heard someone explain their ethnic background once, but if that person has to explain it over and over again, it does become redundant. I think people who choose not to have an open mind need to leave this conversation alone. Just enjoy her music and move on.

[@themalawiandiner180]

Yup, her race should not be an issue. I'm African and I have never associated colored people with the black race, colored is a race on it's own, she doesn't need to identify as colored, she is seen as colored and was born colored, 1 drop rule doesn't apply in Africa. In my country, Malawi, I would never think of Tyla as a black woman, but I understand it's different in the USA.

[@sunirae]

Some of yall have lost a screw or too… Leave the young Lady alone! Is she sent out there to be taken down?? Yall need to leave this young lady alone She is a young colored Lady!! SOUTH AFRICA

[@BirdLadySpeaks]

Why is this even a conversation???? We have Russians ships armed with nuks, we are on the verge of a race or WWIII, and this is what we are arguing about. Jesus help us. 🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️💛💛💛💛

[@LaiLuvz]

Got to keep them distracted some how 🤦🏾‍♀️

[@TDoubleYu]

If we get nuked, what do you plan to do about it? Pretty sure none of these pathetic leaders want the world to end

[@shannan4580]

Thank you!!

[@GeminiLove-mu5bb]

@@LaiLuvzalways smh 😂😂😂

[@mysteryelysian]

Facts !!!

[@nameisamine]

I always found it funny, because were Tyla to identify as a black South African to appease Black Americans , that would sound crazy back home, she would risk Black South Africans telling her that "she's not black, she's coloured, why is she pretending?", bc _those_ Black South Africans know the cultural differences between black and coloured people in SA, and the historical tensions between those communities…that’s a minefield too 😬 . Its crazy that how she identifies could create such a minefield on social media. It's probably best she avoid the topic altogether bc people can’t handle the conversation. It's great to see African acts crossover but now there's this discourse of "how African even is Tyla?" even though she's born and raised in Africa.🙄

[@NoName-sb3iv]

Funny thing is nobody black asking to be Appeased by Tyla the Rhianna wannabe with half the talent.

[@welicatiga]

​@@NoName-sb3ivI literally don't understand how people like you have even made the comparisons. Like if Rihanna is your untouchable idol, why are y'all comparing her to other women?? Especially when Rihanna herself wouldn't stand for that. Weirdo bottom feeder energy.

[@dalpowers]

Im an American and im Embarrassed at how some of us are acting!! SMDH 🤷🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️ I Apologize to South Africa on behalf of the Ingornce some of us are showing!! 🙏🏾💞

[@JB-kv8hn]

Even as black Americans we engage in a lesser form of American imperialism by the way we insist on fitting our racial politics on other countries with their own histories like South Africa and Brazil. We gotta stop that. It's ignorant

[@koragray4794]

My thing is this: I'm agree with Ti that I will never understand why African-American folks want people who are from international countries like South Africa, Nigeria, etc. (Who are coloured nor mixed), want to identify just only 'black' because of one drop rule. Overall, I'm definitely agreed with everything what lovelyti saying though.

[@candaceysmith3585]

No offense. But as a Black American woman born and raised in America. I can honestly speak on just about all black American people, we don't think nor want any one from any other place or country to be Black. I was born in late 80's and grew up in the 90's -00's. That one drop rule derived from YT people sad but true. As a black american from the South we definitely know that. So, just like we should get out and get more educated about other "colored" people maybe they should get just as Real educated when it comes to Black Americans.

[@astroprotector]

it is because blacks use race to identify themselves, want to claim brown people's features as black and don't want to feel isolated and alone.

[@Abstractsvision]

It’s because it’s self hatred also because they think claiming a biracial person means that they could be closer to white people

[@hifiShont]

It started out as a protection thing in America: "If you look like us, you're one of us" type of situations. The problem is we no longer live in an America where you have to hide or choose your identity. That one girl on the TikTok video sounded so ignorant but thought she ate. She sounded like an uneducated fool.

[@godrules3596]

I can't lie no matter what her answer was I feel like people will still have something to say ​​​​​​​I love and appreciate Black Americans but some of you guys.....🤦🏾‍♂️ She is marketed to the ENTIRE WORLD not just the Black American community. I am a Black British man (with Ghanaian parents) born and raised London and she is VERY popular in here and all over Europe. You guys need to realise that there is a world outside America who are all in tune with the music industry not just that but there are different countries with different race classification's. Stop the whole *"why is she being marketed to our group?"* Rihanna is mixed from the Carribean and look how much the Black Americans loved and Supported her in the 2000's and 2010's why is it now you guys have a problem with Tyla and what her race is? She is right she isn't fully Black but it doesn't mean she is Anti-FBA it's just that simple.

[@julieta8406]

These types of Americans trying to tell Africans what black is😶

[@wataki2]

crazy

[@ploob-ie]

That part 🤣

[@gabrielcarmn]

Hahaha true ....They wanna be more African than the Real Africans 🤣😂

[@markcms7363]

Why do it seem like some of our folks want to embrace everyone but themselves. We still haven't learned quit claiming people that dont claim you smh

[@Gingerelle3]

This!! It’s the need and desire to want to belong that damages us so much. In America, any artist (k pop, afrobeatz, Bollywood, etc) can cross over so easily and profit greatly. Americans get disrespected so much due to their own ignorance (I admit), but isn’t everyone ignorant to a point? America is a big melting pot and always including everyone but we will never get the same inclusiveness. Seriously, I never seen so many people despise America 🇺🇸😵‍💫🫠

[@alivanessa134]

It’s not who don’t claim you, Biracial is mixed for a reason

[@moptop4355]

My question is do people have this same hang up when they discuss Rihanna? Because as Caribbean, I know a coolie when I see one. Rihanna would also be considered a coloured in South Africa, and should be considered mixed here. Yet, Rihanna is largely considered as a black women.

[@SheWasHere]

Just putting this out there. Coolie is derogatory. As a Barbadian we'd acknowledge that she's also Guyanese ( through her mum)

[@HarperPolo]

Tyla isnt confused some other people are. I don't think she is "black" and there's no problem with her stating her race and explaining her background. People need to educate themselves.

[@RationallyMe]

This race controversy with Tyla is truly ridiculous because she isn't even the first African to state this. In his book, 'Born a Crime' released in 2016, Trevor Noah told us that in South Africa he is considered 'colored' because of his complexion. Not only are Black Americans not aware of the customs and traditions of other countries, but it also seems many aren't even aware of recent events, like Trevor Noah discussing the topic in depth when he went on his book tour to promote his book that was a NY Times best seller.

[@coilyheadedbby]

Black Americans are just not checking for Trevor Noah I’m sorry. I forget his name half the damn time 😂😂😂

[@user-dv3kq3rm4h]

@@coilyheadedbby But your head is up Tyla's behind, fangirling over ambiguous features you don't have.

[@rodb66]

According to South Africa, she wouldn't be considered black anyway. She doesn't have to claim black. I just wish that more full black female artist of the diaspora are put on.

[@AnythingGoesx50]

Just google BBBEE Act (South African law) then come back and say “sorry I wasn’t informed”🤡

[@roxyroxii1152]

You can be Cantonese when in Shanghai, but you are Chinese when you go to India. Identity can change depending on where you go.

[@sayitasis8326]

Doesn’t mean it’s right infact that’s enthnocentrism

[@TheDroShow]

Heavy on the “it’s ok”. It is ok for mixed people to be mixed. There have been mixed race populations of people in different countries & cultures for centuries. All countries did not subscribe to the very racist & wrong one drop rule. People also try to push non Black/mixed Latinos to be Black, especially Dominicans. Some people even tried to ODR Ronda Rousey when they found out she has a Black great grandparent.

[@Jessica-og4iq]

I don’t blame Meg stallion for not going to these messy black podcasts and blogs because look at what happened to Tyla.

[@Lola_Monroe]

Remember how they did Amara last Negra? Smh. The breakfast club ain't learn sh**. 🤦‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀

[@Enigmajestic1]

I remember this, that was sad af

[@shedoesntcare745]

Be biracial, that's fine. Just don't run to the "black" side when a scandal goes down.

[@rodb66]

Exactly!

[@isysslepore72]

When it’s a negative story, need a comeup for their career or when they experience racism they run to the BP for SOS

[@Jen-vr9qb]

100% Correct!

[@DoveyTheWriter]

All of this because that’s what they like to do. Pick and choose sides. I’m cool with them just stay in in the middle.😂

[@acebutterfly2725]

@shed Everyone turns Blk when there’s scandal. They even begin to talk differently to show they are down😂

[@britneythiam]

Why is this a conversation? Why do people care? Social media must be bored. Kendrick need to drop again. lol

[@KHALIAGREEN]

💯

[@Alainesteph]

😂

[@JusticeLong3317]

People are just chronically online. I’ve never heard anyone in real life talk about Tyla’s race.

[@HidayaDiaspora]

America is one of the only places (if not the only place) that adheres to the “one drop rule”. In the Caribbean, we have many terms for mixed people; dougla,chiney,shabine, and more… that being said, I definitely understand the frustration when people who distinguish themselves from black people attach themselves to black culture

[@mykek8000]

Ehm no, they acknowledge their dna, and their brown skin makes it logical to mingle in black culture

[@denisha8596]

Her accent is full on Coloured, but more Joburg than Cape Town. It's definitely not a South African Indian accent.

[@NitoNova]

Thanks LovelyTi for making this video. As a longtime fan from South Africa 🇿🇦 I knew you'd tackle this topic with maturity. As a black we're not offended when coloureds identify as that. They literally have their own culture, accent & everything

[@lynnd.5135]

Most of them feel superior to blacks and that's why they get offended if you call them black. It's not their fault because white people caused that superiority complex by placing them above blacks.

[@5cburrell]

It’s a good thing that we are discussing this. Clearly, the word colored triggers a lot of Black Americans but acknowledging that there are people of color all over the world that identify in many different ways will only educate us & hopefully bring us closer together. We just need to stop getting upset & practice understanding.

[@b3tt3rfad3d]

Best comment i have ever seen on this whole coloured discourse. You so smart

[@malibooyaw]

It’s wild that she has to defend herself when if a mixed person calls themselves black, people go wild. And say they’re not black, they’re mixed. The standards change every time the wind blows.

[@Annaberry425]

She looks Indian 🤷‍♀️,

[@acebutterfly2725]

@Anna Agreed. An Indian that loves wearing cornrows.

[@Ursfrndlyneena]

​@@acebutterfly2725She's also Zulu. And literally African.

[@zyriatilley]

As an American I wish some of you Americans mind y'all bidness! Black/Color People are called different things in different nations in the world. This is equivalent to Americans calling Fútball (Soccer). And Foreigners getting upset.

[@mysteryelysian]

The funny thing is that the Brits who originally coined soccer as futball (football) then later changed the name.

[@zyriatilley]

@@mysteryelysian football ⚽ makes more sense tho.

[@ASprinkleofAnime]

Im American and I stand where south Africans stand. I don't consider mixed people black

[@Enigmajestic1]

We dont get upset over soccer, we get MAD when yall try to correct the world when yall didnt invent the game thats the issue american thinkinh theyre right and what they say is fimal, same issue in the video, dont make it an anybody else issue, its yall arrogance Theres even groups name THIS IS NOT AMERICA because of how some of yall confront people on topic, names and locations 😂😂😂

[@thornyback]

Just wait 'till they hear about the superior metric system, they flip their wigs.

[@prettyfairyv]

I just don’t get why she has to defend herself for something she’s identified with her entire life. And ngl as a black american this is embarrassing for us. We’re always going at White Americans for being tone deaf especially when it comes to traveling to different countries and understanding/respecting other cultures but we can’t even understand that on a basic level when it comes to our own African diaspora. We definitely got some work to do

[@MsLady-df7hd]

They Not Like Us, They Not Like Us, They Not Like Us!!!!! 💯 And it's okay. Let this young lady, who has a different upbringing than Us Black American...be true to who she is. Being referred to as Coloured isn't a denial or meant to distance herself from Us American Blacks.

[@OhDatsJaVion]

By her doing this she won’t have a career in USA 😂😂😂, that’s why she and her team are backpedaling

[@MIA-fq1di]

​@@OhDatsJaVionwe will see about that 🙄😂😂😂

[@shanimorse9095]

Funny thing is is that many Black Americans would be considered Coloured if they went to South Africa. We have similar admixtures in our bloodlines. It just is what it is. 🤷

[@mrsx2596]

True I once even said that on the comments on some other KZbin page that quite honestly these white ppl knew what they were doing by this one rule of black and white when it comes to black Americans, they wanted them to fully forget and ignore their ancestry because many of the women got pregnant with mixed kids as they were raped by these different white men when they were taken from Africa, so if we being honest most American ppl are mixed and in South Africa they will identify as coloreds because if they were to do DNA tests they are mixed with different ethnicities for real 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@GabbyJ-ow7hi]

Y’all really won’t only biracial people are colored like zendaya Alicia keys etc

[@bigbrownbabe]

They wouldn't 😂 , stop lying .

[@shanimorse9095]

That isn't true. I've been to South Africa so I definitely know. Coloureds are not just biracial people. They are also people who have a mixed race background from over many generations. Similar to how many Black Americans have an average 25% European ancestry. It isn't complicated. ​@GabbyJ-ow7hi

[@UniqueAmerican]

Facts! And we don't want to be called African Americans and associated with Africa/ Africans,and people still force that identity on us.

[@MiscellaneousMeMe]

In England, many people who have racially, ethnically, biologically and phenotypically African features/ heritage, refer to themselves as black. Mixed is mixed here ( for the most part anyway). Also light skinned and mixed are not the same here in England. Also coloured is coloured. I have met a couple people from SA who explained the coloured culture to me and I would never tell them they’re black just because. Thats crazy!

[@seekinghimdaily92]

As an American BW…. I don’t see her as a BW, she is a coloured South African. They exist.

[@kjones11]

Tyla is being presented to the Black American community as a Black woman. And we all know why. MONEY! This may not be intentional on her part, but it is definitely intentional with her label. People don’t care how she identifies, but Black people definitely have a right to feel a way when it comes to pandering. And that is where the problem lies as it relates to Tyla’s ethnicity.

[@roshellegouldbourne787]

But why doesn't this sentiment applies to Cardi B when she has said MANY times that she is not Black.

[@cmjinc.7748]

KJONES, THANK YOU THAT IS THE ISSUE RIGHT THERE. WE WOULDNT CARE IF THEY WERENT PANDERING.

[@AfroGirl5852]

Exactly!!! Underrated comment!!!

[@candaceysmith3585]

Facts 👌🏿👌🏿 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿

[@foreverpringle]

She's not being presented as a black woman, she's being presented as a South African

[@stormyzee5272]

Rihanna and Beyonce would both be considered colored in Southern Africa. Not black.

[@themalawiandiner180]

In all of Africa. They would be called colored, not black.

[@lotusphoenix8]

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[@amethystjones9677]

Ms. Ti is the second black youtuber to understand the perspective amongst the rest of the diaspora, not just America. Thank you for the well-informed sound perspective.