South Beach Sessions: Stephen A. Smith | Friday | 03/24/23 | The Dan LeBatard Show with Stugotz

South Beach Sessions is back and whether you love him or hate him, you've never heard Stephen A. Smith like this before. Stephen shares with Dan how despite all the success, growing up in poverty will never leave him and the controversy that still haunts him today. Dan pushes Stephen to address his relationship with the black community, how he handles the haters and imitators flooding the landscape, if he's getting bored with First Take, and where things stand with him, Skip Bayless and Max Kellerman. Stephen also tells Dan how his words of advice and near-death bout with Covid, changed his life forever.
Watch Stephen A. daily on ESPN’s First Take and listen to his weekly podcast, Know Mercy with Stephen A. Smith. His bestseller, Straight Shooter: A Memoir of Second Chances and First Takes, is available now wherever you get your books and audiobooks.
South Beach Sessions: Stephen A. Smith | Friday | 03/24/23 | The Dan LeBatard Show with Stugotz
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[@AMikeman]

Wow. Stephen A’s recollection of the moment he heard his father say that he isn’t smart enough almost brought me to tears. I guess I remember when I used to get my progress report I was also embarrassed. Such a story. Thank you Dan for uploading this.

[@preetisulm]

It hit hard with me as well - I had two parents who would say things along those lines to my face when I was a little kid. Glad to see people like Stephen A. Smith speak up on that kind of trauma.

[@k.matthews1158]

where did he say it

[@mordecaidrake]

Hook, line and sinker

[@kc41510]

This is by far the best Steven A interview I've seen.

[@562LA2THEBAY]

All the smoke?

[@kc41510]

@@562LA2THEBAY No its The Dan LeBatard Show

[@rosedade3182]

Da will Cain joint was fire give it a watch

[@thehoboman]

Dan is an awesome interviewer, every podcaster needs to watch and learn.

[@thewhiteravenmedia]

Literally the inspiration of what I’m trying to do

[@almayweather7531]

Never scared

[@arizonaFIREent]

Haha haha

[@79dmcjr]

I mean he can be. Not everyone is interested in a person's trauma from when they were 6 years old. But for people who are, Dan is the best. But saying other podcasters need to do the same or learn from that- not everyone wants to have that conversation.

[@zoe_zucci]

Wow what a freaking great interview. Been a fan since the early 2000s and it just seems like Dan never misses.

[@TheBluePhenom]

This interview was so good. Hearing and seeing this side of SAS that's real and raw...thank you Dan for this interview, and thank you SAS for letting us see and hear your heart for these moments

[@abaez008]

Dan has put in the work to gain the level of trust for a person to open up like that.

[@luis7456]

Glad South Beach Sessions is back. Great interview. Got to see a whole different side of Stephen A.

[@estebangonzalez3208]

I’ve never seen an interview that accentuated the strengths of both the interviewer and interviewed better than this. Just a rollercoaster of intrigue.

[@gking1879]

Spot on man i thought it was just me ! 😂

[@blackspider1405]

It's almost like Dan knows how to do this... Great interview...

[@internetneverlies]

Loooongtime listener. I can't express how wonderful this interview was. To have a guest tackle such questions, for Dan having the courage to be frank at the risk of alienating someone dear to him (that's his friend after all), it speaks to many wonderful things, but what hit me among many items was the rapport they have with each other, to be able to HAVE such an interview where Stephen A was comfortable enough, to have such a discussion publicly in a space like a Miami podcast. It speaks to the well founded trust and love they have for each other. Nothing speaks louder than love.. It's special. The only thing I disagreed about, respectfully, was the notion that they couldn't sit across from each other. But I respect how it may not help them with there personal goals.

[@mckenleymason1212]

Dan would HATE working with SAS everyday. Their goals just don't align.

[@josebaez9423]

This was a classic. I had to stop what I was doing and listen to this. Great interview! These two guys are legends in their professions.

[@macleantooreal]

Shout out to Max Kellerman

[@gking1879]

Love that dude and his perspective too man! I appreciated finally hearing what went wrong post skip lol

[@jamalrahsaan2836]

Max is an ally....Dan & Max have two of the most unique, provocative, & entertaining perspectives in sports media. #BBQinvitevalid

[@jlransom12]

Absolutely fantastic interview

[@justinwitek6383]

Everyone needs more south beach sessions i was getting scared they'd never come back. Awesome, awesome, awesome interview thanks Dan ur the shit

[@deuceblacksmith6681]

Gonna jump in and remind folks to make sure they listen to everything in context and stop listening to bite size pieces and samples. Wonderful interview from top to bottom

[@ATOMedward]

This was an amazing conversation and I’m glad I got to see this side of Stephen A. ❤ thanks for an amazing video.

[@jbuc1]

I love Dan! And this is why when he dusts off his journalism and does these 1 on 1s is what made me a fan! Don’t get me wrong i love the shipping container but when Dan has total control and can be direct is when he is at his best

[@coreyminor9065]

Dan is totally correct. There is no journalism to these shows now and it is hard to watch. It is the reason I choose to not watch the show anymore.

[@arizonaFIREent]

Yea because dan and his dumb dad were intelligent

[@whogg0521]

I already had mad respect for Stephen A. Don’t always agree with his take, although often do, but I always appreciate where he is coming from. Even more so for you, Dan. This was a terribly enlightening interview. Thanks for the effort to create it.

[@Black-sv1uh]

I also agree to Dan's points that I'm tired of sports arguments instead of sports information .

[@TheHateless1]

He got you into a debate and turned this into first take 😂❤

[@gidalkaiser2811]

that's why I soured on it quickly

[@championshipblock7349]

Great interview

[@jamellwarren4661]

Dan you did a great job!!! Way to poke the bear. I learned more about Stephen A in this session than ever before.

[@illmosity]

Phenomenal interview/discussion. I’ve watched both of you guys since I was a kid and love what both you have progressed into over the years 🫡

[@freshbarsportsshow_]

I love this we need more of this! 👌🏾💯

[@rooseveltcooper]

Fantastic interview with two of the best!

[@LifeOfToyz]

Stephen A. Smith will forever be the goat! An impressive and inspiring individual. Love 'em.

[@NotUpdated005]

Gained a lot of respect for Stephen, also certified the idea that the average person wouldn't want that 'smoke' ~ seems like a proper / real man in all the ways that being a man is a good thing.

[@jerry85g7]

Miss this guy on ESPN. Highly Qurstionable was a great great show.

[@jermainegamble5631]

Great interview! Respect SAS. Roo. FIETTS

[@gerry2217]

I always say this but this also one of my favorite pieces of content the shipping container produces.

[@bald1der]

Great interview as only you can Dan.

[@cruzanshaker]

Great interview!

[@ThaRealG-win]

That’s why Dan’s the GOAT, THE GOOOOOAT!

[@YNGRokstar]

GREAT INTERVIEW! MAN I MISS DAN N PAPI! HQ WAS MY SHOW!!🤣💯🔥

[@754LIFE]

Great interview from both guys 💰🏆👑🥇

[@gunngrlcrafts7837]

I'm usually pretty indifferent when it comes to Stephen A... I throughly enjoyed this interview. Dan's interview style is top notch. I feel like I gain some understanding to the person vs the character they play.

[@eugeneperry8347]

I think it's interesting that SAS immediately gets defensive when the "I hate what you've done to sports media" comment comes up. He starts the interview off by talking about how he remains true to the tenets of journalism, but his takes consistently lack accountability, fairness and impartiality. He says that his bottom line is to make money but refuses to take accountability for the fact that the brand of entertainment he provides does not stand on the fundamentals of journalism. He tries to make it seem like you can't question his integrity because he was a journalist for decades, but what he's doing now isn't journalism.

[@BennyNegroFromQueens]

Wow, great interview. Great give n take. I went through a plethora of emotions watching it. In the end, somehow, I liked Stephen A more. Weird.

[@Blkdiamondboss]

Great Interview Dan

[@redzonesportscards2021]

Dan is a great listener. Awesome interview!

[@kingpro192]

It seems as if he's just readying up his next questions.

[@Ijustmetyou1]

45:20 what y’all are looking for

[@frederickjohnson7123]

Thank you

[@Someone_VIP]

Thank you sir

[@calebreeves283]

You’re doing God’s work

[@trevoryeatts5852]

Dan was half right. Skip Bayless is the main one to blame for “ruining” sports television. He is known for saying off the wall hot takes for shock value.

[@limitlesspursuit]

He mentioned the marlins. He just hired that guy! 52:41

[@dds2190]

52:10

[@jaballzfit6556]

Good interview

[@VannApragal]

Mike Golic and Stugotz 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@AllOutTenacious]

This is dope!

[@vinnykicks7352]

Wow just wow 👏

[@jasonpate7900]

This is a powerful piece of journalism. Stephen A's back story hits a little too close to home for me (except the part about being rich and famous, I can't relate to that at all) so it was difficult to for me to listen to the entire episode.

[@aaronsines1961]

Love me some Steve A Smith!

[@billclay2701]

Really good. Hope Dan is ok. Looks depressed.

[@EricK-ir8np]

I’m assuming is SAS is talking about Jason Whitlock, at 41:00, being his enemy!! 🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️

[@jamalrahsaan2836]

Definitely

[@ShokusApolloTV]

Michelle beadle is the one who he talking bout that exacerbated the ayesha curry and ray rice situation

[@gking1879]

GREAT greatinterview🤔I think Stephen A might actually be a living legend

[@timothyjernigan7411]

A legend of what did he play sports all he do is talk about black athletes

[@bigtuckballa]

Stephen A always says "give the people what they want", but when the people are showing they wanted Max back he is ignoring that. Stephen A acts like having Jay Williams is a good sparring partner lol lol....Jay Williams is a "yes" man.

[@genesmith3582]

Steven A telling us in his own words he's a company man and doesn't really care about the barbecue invite, lmao. That's why Max had to go.

[@mckenleymason1212]

You still don't get it and miss the point. You'll rather "keep it real" without a job, than be a great employee with a voice and be a millionaire. That's sad. Plus black people are allowed to disagree without losing respect from their whole race. People like you are the problem.

[@kingpro192]

28:43. Wow, this speaks volumes. A man in his position should not only think about the black community but also should give back as well. Just because you have "black skin," it doesn't mean you're a brutha. It's easy to see why he's nearly the only one in his "profession" to walk around with bodyguards.

[@Sevenduece]

Do it in the playoffs Stephen A

[@jizz01191]

I like that Stephen A has been opening up more lately.

[@st.toussaint4632]

What, lol. He’s opened up on like 4-5 different podcasts/shows and given the same backstory. Why would he do that on first take when it’s a sports debate show.

[@dwaynehiler5735]

Has Max publicly spoken on him getting fired from 1st take? (Genuine question... anyone have a link?)

[@drewski5k177]

Please start adding time stamps

[@gidalkaiser2811]

I was worried. It started off spectacular, but then Stephen A. went all Stephen A and started yelling in response and turning Dan's questions into debate TV. That's what he does, but I frankly hate that. I wish Dan had stopped him during the "I've never abused women" rant or his 'whataboutism' answer regarding debate/argument TV to just say "Stephen A., why are you yelling at me?"

[@Black-sv1uh]

I think that Stephen A goes after black athletes and guess more than any other group of people.

[@timothyjernigan7411]

Yes indeed u are right

[@gunnersboss7502]

Dan is very good at asking the hard questions no one else dear to ask . NCAA Tournament! UCONN seems the better team of those remaining in the race to the national championship. I’m selecting the Huskies to win it all .

[@PriCEGotBeats]

Terrell Owens comment, still burns him till this day.

[@tomdavis3878]

Within the first three minutes, SAS talks about the important and necessary role of a father... while saying that his mother filled that role for him, with the result being that he's wildly successful and perhaps the most prominent sports media figure in the country. His own lived experience disproves his beliefs; it's not about having a traditionally male role that is specifically filled by a father/step-father/etc., it's about having loving and supportive adults who work hard to provide the best life they can for you, whatever their gender and relation to you.

[@oaktree1626]

🧢

[@PoppaCYS]

I think you missed the point. He talked about resenting his father and explained why. He talked about the importance of men in family's fulfilling their roles. His father's dereliction of his duty caused his mother undue stress because she had to fill his role. His mother did a great job, but it was difficult for her and the family. His father also financially deprived SAS' family because he had a second secret family. The father's lack of involvement also made SAS' path more difficult with his father not believing in him and being there and it was hurtful. Everything you said was true about having a loving parent.

[@217ShowOffBoii]

They're a 50-55 win team next season assuming injuries don't hurt them too much

[@DansChessLounge]

Who are Stephen A enemies? Who's Dan referring to at 41:35?

[@510MyTube]

anyone know who SAS is referring to when he donsn't speak of this person name that he has beef with? a lot people knows about glenn robinson but were there others?

[@Lord_Stinkfoot]

SA grows a bit weary on the ear, but I like him. DL is a lot of fun.

[@bshakes6999]

Michelle Beadle’s hate of Stephen A Smith is not talked about enough.

[@VannApragal]

Max did it to himself with all of that Brady Cliffgate. He lost his mojo after that.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@BennyNegroFromQueens]

Michelle Beadle is near the top of that enemies list.

[@jmillerxi]

I was thinking that too, but I doubt Stephen really considers her an enemy because in the end, she fell off hard and he continued to ascend. I doubt he harbors any real ill feelings toward her over that situation.

[@BennyNegroFromQueens]

Whitlock is on that list too

[@YamiDYoLLa]

Wonder who Dan was referring too. Not Whitlock cuz I don’t think Dan is cool with him to squash a beef…

[@BennyNegroFromQueens]

@Team Mugen ah, so true...not whitlock...it's gotta be beadle...and they just chose to use a male pronoun to not tip their hat.

[@BennyNegroFromQueens]

Dan might make more than Stephen A...let that sink in.

[@mafriqaful]

Dan deserves a bigger platform, sports is purely for entertainment, is not for politics or issues that ESPN makes it out to be, and Stephen A is a very intelligent and he is one of the last greats , just watch their ratings tank when they let him go.

[@CeloCRF]

👏👏👏👏👏

[@Rawsavon]

Now I just want to know who the other journalist is that Dan tried to broker a peace with.

[@Denvernate]

Has to be Whitlock

[@xsa442]

@@Denvernate nah. dan despises him.

[@Denvernate]

@@xsa442 he does now - hasn't always been that way.

[@dabears8591]

@@xsa442 yeah Dan and Whitlock used to be friends.

[@mars23air]

Meadowlark masterpiece!

[@DansChessLounge]

These sports commentators have branched off into the podcast realm and they aren’t going back to the big networks. Digital media is the way to go for that independence and big money 💰.

[@BennyNegroFromQueens]

Why can't Dan look Stephen A in the eye???

[@larrymoore3627]

Because he hates was Steven Avery has done

[@BennyNegroFromQueens]

@@larrymoore3627 who is Steven Avery?

[@yomoseo]

Dan is your favorites rapper's favorite rapper

[@BennyNegroFromQueens]

Stephen A got Max fired for no reason other than his own ego. He's gonna have to either atone for that or pay for that.

[@laughterisnecessary9675]

He also had Max hired. Max had/has his own show also. How is that going?

[@BennyNegroFromQueens]

@Laughter is Necessary guy Max has been on ESPN for like 25 years. And Stephen A DID NOT want to hire him for the show. He said himself we was forced into that hire by the "suits".

[@laughterisnecessary9675]

@@BennyNegroFromQueens I "misspoke" by typing hired. But then again, so did you by typing "fired". Max wasn't fired. He got his own show after FT. So what atonement are you referring to?

[@BennyNegroFromQueens]

@Laughter is Necessary guy he was fired from the show.

[@laughterisnecessary9675]

@@BennyNegroFromQueens guy, he was replaced on the show and given his own show on the same network. Debate isn't his thing. So again, atonement where? And for what? Unless you have no answer, which seems to be the case lol

[@CesarHernandez-pd1eb]

I wonder who those enemies r. Anyone know

[@YC-zw5eb]

Triple salute to the 404 people up this early to watch this video first

[@Slenderirl]

man come on, can't expect every imitator to have credentials. If it were up to us, you wouldn't even be able to be on youtube bc you have too much credentials. This spot became what it is because of people without credentials. So keep uploading

[@WBHRadio]

Dan please tell us the journalist SAS hates 😂

[@solarpoweredafricanvegansp178]

Thank you Dan for challenging SAS for how he’s involved with destroying journalism and birthing all of these copycats who just come on the show to shout and argue. I am most definitely subscribing, I’ve been waiting for someone with some 🥜 to challenge him.

[@jaylee4546]

Max imo was too intellectual for SAS. Not saying SAS is not smart, but his arguments lack Max's type of substance.

[@tomstorm7926]

Max is very smart and because of that he over complicated his debate points. Sometimes most other people on the show expressed they had hard time following what side max was on on a particular topic because he was all over the place. I think his style work best as an analyst not as a debater

[@larrymoore3627]

Read through the lines Steven ages said he will do anything for the money so he will sell his soul in my book that's a man without character he can preach about character all he wants

[@peaceful_warrior7627]

Who do you think are the enemies Stephen A. was referring to?

[@BennyNegroFromQueens]

Stephen A talking black people shit for a change. All real talk. Grew up 10 minutes from him.

[@javierromero6858]

Great interview. But…for real; who’s SAS enemy?! 😂

[@braedotson9606]

Great way to people too watch your show dan😅

[@frankjones469]

It's no way in hell espn is letting Stephen a Smith. It would drop ESPN's stock way down

[@thisisgodkazzz]

Who did SAS mean when he was talking about his enemies? Been watching FT since Jay Crawford and Dana Jacobson were moderators and Skip had rotating debaters and I didn't know of these "enemies" lol

[@kevingonzales5149]

I do believe he failed third and fourth grade, but I believe he's making up a lot of that story about hearing what his father said about him. Now, taking care of your mother, that's a good thing, everybody likes to do that. He's embellishing, though.

[@laughterisnecessary9675]

Dan: "What's your relationship with your community?" SAS: "I don't think about it at all..." CLEARLY! Makes sense too! See how SAS attacks black athletes for smoking weed. Then, see his reaction to Dana White literally SLAPPING HIS WIFE on camera!!

[@mustermas]

Why didn't Dan nail him on the Dana white hypocrisy ? It was such an easy layup to ask him

[@tomstorm7926]

You do know he played a role in alot of the black analysts and former players you see on the station right? I guess because he holds players accountable it bothers you

[@laughterisnecessary9675]

@@tomstorm7926 weed VS domestic violence? Which in your opinion should be held at greater accountability?

[@tomstorm7926]

@@laughterisnecessary9675 definitely domestic violence. But many players had had domestic violence issues and he doesn’t harp on them either. In fact during this very podcast he mentioned how he got suspended for even taking up in a way for Ray rice. And I remember the same black people were making fun of him for that. He talks about the weed because in a way he’s scolding players for messing up their money over something really dumb and avoidable. Not because he thinks smoking weed is wrong. But no matter how much he explains this people are just mad because god forbid you hold a black man accountable.

[@laughterisnecessary9675]

@@tomstorm7926 maybe he's NOT explaining it as clearly as he and you think he is. When his "Stay off the weeeeed maaaan?" takes ring louder than his domestic violence takes. Also, I specifically pointed out Dana White because there's an obvious race disparity in his takes. But no matter how much that is pointed out SAS and viewers like you will always try to deflect or make comparisons that aren't always equal.

[@jamesbingham1007]

SAS can't mention the names of the enemies he says he has? He can't even let LeBatard MENTION the name? Btw, does anyone know who he's speaking about?

[@Karafin1]

Popular guess seems to be Whitlock. Would not surprise me. The background as a journalist-turned-TV guy matches SA's description, too

[@genesmith3582]

@@Karafin1 I highly doubt Lebatard has any relationship with Whitlock. He wouldn't be playing mediator in that situation.

[@Karafin1]

@genesmith3582 Maybe. But they used to be pretty good friends. They've both talked about it in the past.

[@Doworkhill]

45:22 Is what you’re looking for.

[@paulgreen92]

Love Dan and the show but for the life of me I don't understand why people like Steven A

[@mike-r575]

Stephen A.'s right! Kellerman was not a good fit on First Take, mainly because - in my opinion - Max was unable to debate at Stephen A.'s level. When Max co-hosted, First Take was stale, and I often watched the show only to listen to Stephen A.'s take on the first topic, and then I would turn the channel. Though I wish that Stephen A. and Skip were still co-hosting First Take, the show is much fresher with the rotating co-hosts, and I tend to watch First Take longer.