South Bend 13" Restoration - Taper Attachment

[@paulgreenlee190]

Thanks again George, Your videos on the rebuild are educational. If anyone wants to see how the parts and sections of a South Bend Lathe go together and work then they should be watching all of yours. When I work on my lathe I always check to see if I'm going in the right direction. Thanks so much.

[@georgebell7103]

Thanks Paul, I appreciate your comments

[@paulgreenlee190]

@@georgebell7103 George, you are a natural when it comes to teaching and demonstrating the order of a section or segment of the parts and how to accomplish that. My taper attachment is on backwards. I can tell it can go either way in terms of degrees or taper per foot, but it seems being able to see the degrees facing you makes it easier to deal with. I need to make the sheet metal cover to keep the chips out. My doctors have told me not to drive anymore or pickup anything heavier than a cup of coffee. Pretty hard to do when at one time I could walk around carrying 300 pounds. It's a hard pill to swallow and except the fact that you aren't able to carry on like you once did. The use of my engine lift helps but it takes up so much time to get into position. Your video series is Award Winning. Thank you so much. I hope you will continue to show us the projects you do on your lathe as a top-notch Hobbyist.

[@georgebell7103]

Thanks Paul. You be sure to take care of yourself

[@StrongholdArmory]

Easily the best video on KZbin covering the South Bend taper attachment. Well done.

[@georgebell7103]

Thanks for the nice comment, check the other videos in this series

[@stanmarczynski2765]

great video nice to see you useing spanners that actualy fit, instead of the adjustable spanner self adjusting hex rounding devices that most other people have a must have for, well done..

[@georgebell7103]

Thanks for your comment

[@GranWithStudents]

Thanks for the video, for using what sounds like the official names for the parts, for getting clear shots of the parts, and especially for speaking clearly.

[@georgebell7103]

You are welcome, I am glad the videos were helpful

[@MyLilMule]

Great explanation and demonstration on how the telescoping cross feed screw functions.

[@georgebell7103]

Hey, thanks for the nice comment

[@surindersingh4786]

Absolutely amazingly detailed video no other video like this on whole KZbin 👏 👌 😍 🙌 👍 ❤️ . Thanks a million and 👒 🎩 off to you Sir

[@georgebell7103]

Hey, thanks for the nice comment

[@gulf4yankee]

George you produced an excellent video. As a result, I was able to take apart, clean up and put my taper attachment into operation. We followed every step exactly as you demonstrated. Video quality, lighting and sound are exceptional. It took me about 3 hours from start to finish. used a lot of Kroll to get screws to release. Back into service like the day it was made.

[@georgebell7103]

Hey, thanks for the nice comment. Glad the video was helpful.

[@rustyshackleford928]

Just perfectly done. I understand everything. Thanks

[@georgebell7103]

Thanks

[@ramzibani4897]

du fond du coeur merci, ce fut une belle démonstration simple claire et concise un grand bravo , faite nous d'autres démo. de ce style !, encore une fois des américains il y en a des bon et cela change par rapport à cette arrogant de Trump. Merci cher Monsieur.

[@georgebell7103]

Merci pour votre commentaire. Iou, nous aurons bientôt un nouveau président.

[@thattubaguy3801]

Thank you George!! super helpful. I am in the process of restoring my own Southbend and, having not used a taper attachment, had no Idea how it worked. You are the man!

[@georgebell7103]

Thanks for the nice comment. Check out the other videos in this series. If you are new to your machine these will also be helpful.

[@jimfrits334]

A beautiful South Bend 13 George. It looks like it's truly restored to factory condition. I also have a 1980"s model 13" which has been restored which includes reground bed and scraped headstock, carriage, compound and tail stock. In fact, it looks a lot like yours, color and all.

[@georgebell7103]

Thanks for the nice comment, it is a nice machine

[@edpopelas2844]

George great videos! Thanks for making these. I’m workin on rebuilding my 1968 10” and haven’t seen any videos on the taper attachment. Mine has so much rust and grime you’d swear it came off the titanic. Now I know where to hit with a hammer to disassemble and where not to!

[@georgebell7103]

Hey, thanks for the nice comment, glad they are helpful

[@donaldnaymon3270]

Great video. Excellent description. Thank you for sharing.

[@georgebell7103]

Hey, thanks for the nice comment

[@precisionmachineshed]

Nice series on the SB resto. Having done a couple, I know how much work goes into it. Great job explaining and showing everything. Couldn't have done it better myself!

[@georgebell7103]

Thanks for the nice comment. I did the videos because I could not find any comprehensive view of how the thing goes together. And hope to help someone else.

[@precisionmachineshed]

If I ever get around to restoring my SB 13, I'll have to refer back to your videos. There's a few differences between the 13's and the 10L's. It always nice to have a visual. I wish I would have had your taper attachment video a couple years ago when I did my 10L resto. Putting things together in the correct order makes life much easier! Thanks again!

[@melgross]

Very well done. I have a South Bend 10L heavy with taper and a FOURTEEN with taper. The taper sizes are confusing. I’d have to go back to my manuals, but it appears as though the attachment for the old 13, 14 1/2 and my Fourteen have the same size attachment. I’ve never seen the cover for the slot in the wild. I’m sorry I didn’t buy them when South Bend was still around and I bought parts for my lathes from them, so I had to make my own.

[@georgebell7103]

Yes, nice. Thanks for your comment

[@kenzpenz]

George, please, I have run out of great videos to entertain me. Maybe you could restore a SB drill press or even another SB lathe. This has been without a doubt the best series of restoration videos ever. Thanks for taking time and presenting the material in such a professional manner. Thanks ...Ken, an old guy with a 9 inch SB lathe, that I restored a couple of years ago.

[@georgebell7103]

Thank you for your nice comment

[@markrainford1219]

Lovely photography.

[@georgebell7103]

Thanks

[@chrislee7817]

Great video. What an over complex system that is. My Hardinge is super simple.

[@georgebell7103]

Thanks for your comment

[@melgross]

These South Be d attachments are telescoping. I believe the standard Hardinge is the simple non telescoping type.

[@ErikBongers]

Excellent explanation, thank you!

[@georgebell7103]

You are welcome. Thanks for your comment

[@davidnerge9792]

nice video: clean, clear, concise. just about to start reassembly of a 10L with taper attachment, so this is very timely.

[@georgebell7103]

Thanks for the comment, glad the videos are helpful

[@videoupload99]

I really appreciate your video on the restoration of a Southbend telescoping taper attachment. I have that taper attachment with all the parts except the two thrust ball bearings which hold the sleeve in place. I have made attempts to purchase these bearings but with little success. The bearing supply place I went to didn't seem to be able to determine which ball thrust bearing would work. Any chance you have identifying numbers for those two bearings you could share with me? Thank you

[@georgebell7103]

Thanks for the nice comment. I do not, however they are nominal sizes and available. Suggest you measure the shaft and opening carefully to get the OD and ID. Then go on the Macmaster Carr web site to find the correct thrust bearings. If this does not work for you, send me a note and I will take mine out and measure them for you. Then we can figure it out.

[@akhileshkumar-fg3wq]

thank you mr. George Bell

[@georgebell7103]

Thanks for your comment

[@satchelsieniewicz5824]

thank you this was very helpful!

[@georgebell7103]

You are welcome. Thanks for the comment

[@gaizka1140]

Excelent video...

[@georgebell7103]

Thanks

[@bobjimenez4464]

beautiful cleanup. I'm not sure why but to get the backlash out I had to feed from left to right on a Cincinnati zip shift lathe for the taper attachment to engage at the beginning of the cut.

[@georgebell7103]

thanks, but not clear on your question

[@خانزادهاحدی]

خیلی عالی موفق باشی

[@georgebell7103]

Thanks for your comment

[@RasheedBarnes]

Hi George Bell. Thanks for the great videos. Did you end up replacing your thrust bearings? Seems like the sizes are a bit wonky. I'm having some trouble tracking down replacements for my Heavy 10.

[@georgebell7103]

Thanks for the nice comment. In my case all the bearings were in good shape or only needed steel balls replaced. McMaster-Car is the place to go for replacements, they have a great website, and lots of bearings. Replacements will likely not be roller ball bearings, but needle bearings which are actually better. If you need replacements I would go to McMaster Car, and replace with needle bearings. Measure carefully all dimensions so the new needle bearings fit properly. Good luck

[@bhuvansunar3958]

Very nice video thanks

[@georgebell7103]

Thanks for the comment

[@georgespangler1517]

Is nice, l make one out of 3/4 inch bar with bushings for my Logan,, didn't want 50 lbs dragging on my ways all the time when not cutting tapers no more than I do .

[@georgebell7103]

Yeah, I see what you mean, but I don’t think the weight is a big deal. It adds to the mass of the machine. Thanks for your comment

[@georgespangler1517]

@@georgebell7103 sue it does half nuts and lead screw wear will be more as well as ways,,, seen many mills knee lead screw wear from heavy vise..

[@georgebell7103]

@@georgespangler1517 Okay, I really don’t know for sure. Will defer to your experience on this topic.

[@michaelsaunders1658]

Is the cross feed screw the same or is it different?

[@georgebell7103]

Not quite sure what you are asking. Cross feed screw is in two pieces for a lathe with a taper attachment. On a lathe without a taper attachment, the cross feed screw is one piece.

[@nickmasterson942]

George, would you mind giving me the dimensions and hole location for the tie rod clamp? Mine missing and I need to fab a new one. Thanks

[@georgebell7103]

Sure send me an email. [e-mail]

[@stevearehart313]

Thank you

[@georgebell7103]

you are welcome

[@akhileshkumar-fg3wq]

this is Nice Demo

[@georgebell7103]

Thank you for the comments

[@sigurasg]

What I don't understand is what keeps the cross slide from moving when the locking lever is unlocked.

[@georgebell7103]

I may not understand your question.... when the taper attachment locking lever is locked the movement of the cross slide is totally controlled by the angle set on the taper.

[@Cws351]

Dear Mr. Pete, I found Bubba!

[@georgebell7103]

Lol

[@FTECBLReports]

Old video I know but isnt there supposed to be another Bar or guide at the front of the taper attachment connecting it to the bed ways like the one at the rear, You can clearly see in your video how much the attachment is flexing or pivoting at the front of the attachment completely throwing off the actual taper

[@georgebell7103]

Nope, the taper attachment for this machine has no attachment in the front. Only on the tailstock side. I think the flexing you see is during assembly is because nothing is tight yet. Gibs are all loose during the assembly.

[@FTECBLReports]

@@georgebell7103 Okay because I am talking about from the 11:20 mark in the video where you can see the front of the taper attachment noticeably moving as you get closer to the headstock.

[@georgebell7103]

I think another support on the headstock side would not be a bad idea. However, South Bend designed their taper attachment with only one additional support on the tailstock side.

[@georgebell7103]

I see what you mean on the flexing... I did not have the gibs tight when I did the simple demo. When the gibs are tightened up there is no play at all on the taper attachment. As you have noted in your comment any movement would indeed would throw off any attempt at an accurate taper. Thanks for your comment.

[@FTECBLReports]

@@georgebell7103 Thanks for the replies, While I have never owned a Southbend I have always found them to be some beautiful old iron, I have two Logan 11X36 one is a standard and one a turret that I converted to a standard and a custom made taig micro with a four foot bed. You can never have enough machines that spin in circles!

[@sayyedgaus3853]

Giniyas sir

[@georgebell7103]

Thanks for the comment