SOUTH BEND GRINDING JIG Engraving

[@kevinyonke6773]

My wife ordered the material for this project for me. I thought how sweet until she said this project will give her peace and quiet for at least a month. Can't wait to get started as you can't put a price on the mental therapy this project will give me when I am in the basement puttering. Again Lyle thank you for sharing these projects and your knowledge with us.

[@mrpete222]

lol 👍

[@michaelcerkez3895]

My wife says she always knows where to find me.

[@MrPossumeyes]

What a nice lady.

[@christopherleveck6835]

@@michaelcerkez3895 my wife usually remembers where she left me.....

[@damionparson247]

😂 Thanks for sharing. My wife would say the same thing.

[@75blackviking]

Only been said like a million times, but the gentleman who makes these videos is a national treasure. I've had to fight my entire career for little scraps of knowledge from the old timers that this guy gives away freely, and with better method. Please keep these videos coming. The future of manufacturing in the U.S. doesn't have a very bright future without this knowledge being shared.

[@mrpete222]

Thank you very very very much for encouraging me

[@lesthompson5907]

the treasure As got a bit tainted of late i think . Age is beginning to show . Les England I fins my signal pit question was never answered.

[@russelldold4827]

Enjoying this series, thanks, Lyle. One possible accessory to extend this series is to show the principles of an angled guide fence for clamping on the grinder rest to assist with tools for screwcutting, etc. which need accurate angles. It would be extra credits for many, but some might appreciate the security of working off a guided system.

[@mrpete222]

Good idea

[@G1951-w1y]

You never cease to amaze me Mr. Pete. You simplified the project for us amateur home machinists. That square hole is what always prevented me from tackling this project. Not anymore.

[@mrpete222]

👍👍

[@phillipbryant5976]

Please keep up the excellent videos! I really appreciate your teaching style. You are teaching this green novice more than I learned in community college machining classes in each 1/2 hour video Thank you!

[@mrpete222]

Thank you, that makes me feel good

[@vorazechul]

Just a thought, but maybe the set screw was offset from the groove on purpose. It seems that if you tighten the screw down it would try to push the rotating jig forward locating it with the back face of the dial. This would make for a fixed axial position of the jig when tightened.

[@mrpete222]

I think you are correct

[@lesthompson5907]

@@mrpete222 possibly it was one made on Friday afternoon. or out of a different set , just ues you square to set the orientation .

[@pyromedichd1]

I wondered the same thing and comment after you did, before reading your comment.

[@richardbrobeck2384]

yes I thought the same thing !

[@christopherleveck6835]

I have an original complete set. Mine is offset and that's how it works.

[@johnyoungquist6540]

The spin indexer will lock into any position on 1 degree increments. The holes labeled 0-9 do that for you. If you want say 32 degrees turn the spindle to 30 degrees put the lock pin in the "2" hole and turn the spindle slightly until it drops in place. It is truly the mechanical equivalent of a vernier scale. You will see the big dial will show a little past 30 which is of course 32 degrees. Thus all 360 increments are readily available. A clever and simple device which is likely more precise than reading a rotary table .

[@MyHeap]

Great project Mr. Pete. I appreciate you taking the time to show us. Joe

[@larrywalker3137]

Mr. Pete I look forward to your videos every week and I always watch them keep the good content coming thank you very much

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@fermentedwaste1730]

Thank you mr Pete! From a hobbyist I’ve learned so much from your videos and can’t say I’d understand what I do now without them. Thinking I’d try and square up the bit with a square off the table and see where that gets me.

[@mrpete222]

👍

[@100yojimbo]

Thats going to be a very nice tool when its all finished up. Mr pete you are amazing looking forward to part 4

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@chrism9342]

Mr. Pete, I have been enjoying your videos for a while now, and I finally have something to add. Your engraving cutter looks like ones that I use with my New Hermes engraving machines, only larger. I get my engravers from a place called 2L inc. They call that pattern a "standard conical V-bit". If anyone is interested, I have had the best luck with 2L's "Tough Tip" engravers. Antares Inc. is another source for engraving cutters. -Chris

[@DavidKutzler]

Chris, Thanks! I just ordered two engraving tools from 2L.

[@Ammoniummetavanadate]

I make my own points from carbide rounds which are pretty cheap but it is a pain to get them sharp. I use diamond surface plates for that. My current project is actually a slow speed lapping machine based off a machine Stefan Gotteswinter's machine but scaled up a bit and taking advantage of a shunt wound gear motor I pulled off the scrap pile.

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@MrDdaland]

Good morning Mr Pete!

[@JonBanquer]

Enjoying the series. Leaving a comment to let you know your channel isn't floundering and I'm enjoying it in my retirement.

[@mrpete222]

Thank you very much

[@joecolanjr.8149]

Really enjoyed this series Mr.Pete. Looking forward to the last part. Oh btw...i like your videos even before i watch them!!! Take care.

[@mrpete222]

👍

[@geckoproductions4128]

This is really a neat little project Mr. Pete. I think I'll the materials build one of these some weekend. Thanks!

[@lesthompson5907]

finally got the , # 708 part 3 thanks son . grat job i keep an eye out for the next one . les England

[@Stefan_Boerjesson]

Brilliant rigging, finding the zero. (Up to time 11:20). As usual, a professionally filmed and edited video. Thanks!

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@BenButler1]

Great engraving instruction. Could you use a square on the table to align the tool bit?

[@TinkeringJohn]

I was thinking the same thing.

[@jameslezak7882]

I think the vise idea is bullet proof for initial line up! 👍😎✌️

[@simpleman283]

Thinking of using the vise to orient the bit means you still got it Mr Pete. Very cleaver 👍

[@mrpete222]

👍👍

[@dizzolve]

great series Mr Pete ....... thank you. I think I will take on this project despite the fact that I have an old delta surface grinder with universal vise. The divisions came out great

[@lesthompson5907]

To slow to get to the screen Spoiled the episode .

[@dizzolve]

@@lesthompson5907 how so

[@dannyl2598]

Thank you Mr Pete.

[@lesthompson5907]

i desired to make the block rowed at the back so I only needed to put the graduator's on the Block so it needed to be done once, & a zero mark on the sleeve ,

[@mrpete222]

Great idea

[@kerrywil1]

You are great. Thank you for continuing with the videos. I very much appreciate it

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@edgoldshinsky1848]

Brilliant idea to use the vise. Love your work and all the videos.

[@Pennycook2]

Hi Mr. Pete. I’ve made one of these little jigs and it is great. Thank you very much. I used cheap clock keys from eBay for my square holes (easier to get here in England). Paul.

[@mrpete222]

That is an awesome idea, to use a Clock key

[@ggreenlee19]

Very good video, I really enjoy your attention to the details it shows your dedication to teaching.

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@lesthompson5907]

yes i will be making one i haven't a mill so mostly hand work & i will shrink fit to save on time in making the Square. i haven't got access to the selves liners I suppose we could shrink the liners in to the salve's as we did to fit valves seat's. i ues gas & heated it up works well.

[@mrpete222]

👍

[@lathammarx1458]

It is satisfying to see the graduation come out on the toolbit holders, looks good, Tubalcain

[@CraigLYoung]

Thanks for sharing 👍 and Happy Easter to you and your family.

[@peteengard9966]

Looking good Mr Pete.

[@ricko5123]

God Bless You and your family, Lyle...

[@mrpete222]

Happy Easter

[@merlin357]

Enjoying this series, as always!

[@angelramos-2005]

Excellent video and surely appreciate your work.Thank you.

[@danbreyfogle8486]

Always very interesting, I want to see this used so will be waiting for part 4.

[@lesthompson5907]

I'v been waiting month already far to slow ,what's the point liking & Subscribing if we have to wat months to se a completed program .

[@danbreyfogle8486]

@@lesthompson5907 I look forward to each and every post from Mr. Pete. He is a few years older than me (I am 73) and I can tell you from my perspective that he puts a lot of work into his videos. Besides these videos he also has a life filled with grand kids and other family.

[@Histandard2011]

Mr, Pete, I have a couple of the original holders like you do and found out quickly that they need the second tool bit hold down access and lock down set screw between the original center hole and the "0" marking on the block. This will allow you to sharpen and or re-sharpen short pieces of high speed bits for boring bars and the sharpening of many very sort pieces of old reground tooling. Just call me thrifty.

[@garthbutton699]

Thanks for another informative video,especially liked the indexing🤗😎🤗😎

[@elsdp-4560]

Thank you for sharing.👍👀

[@christopherleveck6835]

I have the full set of these from South Bend with the wooden box and the original instructions. I love this set.

[@mrpete222]

👍👍

[@johnparsons5793]

Thanks. Looking forward to the last instalment of this series.

[@richb419]

Hi I'm thinking the reason for the 3/8 hole for adjustment is so the tool bit may be moved when it's at an angle other than 90 to the face. Rich

[@mrpete222]

You are absolutely right, but it took me a while to figure that out

[@richardbrobeck2384]

Another great video Mr Pete!

[@daveticehurst4191]

Came out OK Lyle. Why not use a second pin for the 5 degrees instead of guessing each time. Regards from Australia.

[@lesthompson5907]

i shrink fitted the bit relied for the square saves a lot of time. in making it . & you can later het up to harden worked a treat . i suppose you could shrink with liquid nitrogen if you had sufficient to make it wroth while . but heating up & the freezing is sufficient for one or tow. les England. LOL

[@paulhunt598]

Yes, set the "vernier" pin at 5 degree. To speed up the engraving process, index on 10 degrees all the way around and possibly set a hard stop for the mill axis travel. There is no provision on the mill for this, but anything rigid and cheesey could work. After completing the 10 degree steps, repeat process for the shorter 5 degree marks moving the stop and the vernier pin appropriately. I don't own a full set of 5C collets yet, so I did a poor man's trick and purchased a 5C 3 jaw chuck. This allows me to hold any size round stock while I shop for bargain full set of 5C tooling. My 5C chuck has a wee bit of run out (.003"), which works for most of my spin indexing work, but is disappointing. I really like Lyle's cheesy drill press vise trick to set the tool but square. Fast and dirty yet reasonably accurate. I would have used an indicator against the clamped piece of tool bit stock, possibly gotten it more accurate, but my method would have taken much longer. Lyle is clever in doing things simpler when close is good enough. It isn't hard to level a knee mill. Our shop standard was to level manual knee mills to .0005"/ft. I just sheared an assortment of sheet metal shims (I preferred SS) about 4" square. Using a pry bar, rock the machine base to insert required shim. The rough machine base casting and the floor variations allow miniscule adjustment. The weight of a knee mill held our machines in place for an indefinite period of time in a high production environment. I have anchored a mill on a rare occasion, but there must have been an extreme reason why we thought anchoring was necessary. Our machine pilots appreciated leveled knee mills. It was common for them to use the protractor type levels for work set up with a leveled and trusted machine. Experience gives method confidence. Lyle "cheats" on best practices when he has proven a simpler method is good enough. I think that he was scribing with his height gage from his work bench surface instead of a surface plate. If so, on this job that may be acceptable. Obviously a surface plate would be more accurate. I cheat similarly on non critical part center locations, by touching off my known tool diameter and part diameter to calculate center and skipping the edge finder step. I am still using hand dial scales on my mill. I introduce so much error with axis backlash. I set up a travel indicator when I need accuracy. My mill came with a partially malfunctioning DRO. The display got separated in the purchase/delivery. I got used to working without the DRO and never installed and repaired the DRO. In the long run, postponing the DRO installation and repair has been a frustrating option. Most of my machinery was purchased used with used machine issues. Sometimes I live with those issues, because repairs seem unjustified. I recently purchased several brand new shop tools and machines. They are wonderful. I haven't had new equipment in the shop for so long that I forgot how much "some assembly required" and how much packing material causes different setup issues and frustration... But new is vastly better!

[@daveticehurst4191]

@@paulhunt598 Thanks for confirming about using the pin at the 5 degree mark. Trouble is with your idea of going round and doing all the 10 's first. Lyle was marking a Long line every 15 degrees ( 2 short then 1 long ) so your idea would totally confuse him. With regards to fitting a stop, Best idea if you have a solid stop is set it for the long line, then introduce a piece of packing to the length of the short line you want.

[@paulhunt598]

@@daveticehurst4191 Yes. I confused myself on the degree spacing and you corrected me. I repaired and maintained machine shop equipment, mostly CNC, for most of my career. I got bored with CNC and enjoy learning to manual machine in my retirement hobby life. I was trained and served as a technician, but never formally trained as a machinist. Lyle is a fabulous instructor for someone like me. Someday I hope to meet him in person. My pockets are deeper in retirement than during my working career. I am enjoying exploiting this by tooling up an extensive machine shop for hobby pleasure. We lived so frugally that I was shocked when my wife encouraged me to build my dream shop while I am still young enough to enjoy it. I recently added an American Pacemaker to my lathe inventory. It is very similar to the lathe Adam Booth is setting up. My wife thought this lathe is bigger than I need. I have to tried convince her how cool it is to make big chips. What kind of work do you do? I am currently focusing on milling and turning.

[@daveticehurst4191]

@@paulhunt598 HI Paul. now retired here in Australia. I worked in the UK as a Machine Tool Fitter ( Millwright ) up until 1998. I have YT channel, have a look. kzbin.info/door/bkcTy1DCDB2sdgGnLSv1rQ If you can find 1.5 hours, I have a shop tour and description of my working life. kzbin.info/www/bejne/rqumYoCseLp0bas In one of the other videos, can't remember if it was the DoALL rebuild or the Grenby Surface grinder I also mention why I came to live in Australia. YOu can drop me an email for more details if you want. Regards from Dave.

[@michaelcerkez3895]

The viewers that are still here are your hard-core machinists. I've been here since 2012, and will be here until the last. Now, on to my second cup of coffee.

[@mrpete222]

Thank you very much for your loyalty

[@michaelcerkez3895]

Thank you very much for providing us with knowledge.

[@tahuyaguy]

I gave a like and a share, Thank you Mr. Pete.

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@amosdecarmo5970]

I am making this grinding jig Mr. Pete I will post it on my youtube channel when completed. Thank you for making this available.

[@mrpete222]

👍

[@amosdecarmo5970]

@@mrpete222 Mr Pete as promised, I finished it and posted it on youtube at 3 Ducks & A Quack. Looking forward on how to use it in you next video.

[@christopherleveck6835]

@@amosdecarmo5970 man that was FAST....

[@amosdecarmo5970]

@@christopherleveck6835 I started it right after Mr Pete first video SOUTH BEND GRINDING JIG Body #706 pt 1 tubalcain lathe bits. Then I finish last night following this video.

[@pyromedichd1]

I'm enjoying this series. Could it be that South Bends "V" Groove being slightly offset fro the set screw was intentional in an effort to remove end play from the collet forcing the degree collar up against the block? If it was intentional it would have been better to use a brass set screw to prevent the damage to the groove as seen on your original SB tool.

[@mrpete222]

I think you are right, it was intentional

[@christopherleveck6835]

@@mrpete222 I have an original set and it's the same so it must be intentional.

[@stumccabe]

Nice project. Thanks.

[@Smallathe]

A very cool tool! Thanks!

[@davidcockerman266]

I have enjoyed watching these videos no making this grinding jig. I do have a original South Bend grinding jig which is in very good condition. I'll admit I have never used it. BTW. I'm not sure why but I am not getting any notifications from an of the channels I subscribe to on KZbin. As always I enjoy your videos. Keep up the good work.

[@mrpete222]

I do not get any notifications, and I am subscribe to at least 200 channels

[@davidcockerman266]

@@mrpete222 I have something I would like to send you for your what is it videos. How do I get it to you?

[@lesthompson5907]

i mad one because i find it hard in my old age to see what in doing even with my glasses on .

[@disgruntledscientist]

Click on the bell for notifications.

[@geobrown9413]

@@mrpete222 I had the same problem. Then magically, about a month ago the notifications started. Think it may have had something to do with my ad blocker...Ghostery. I did not make any changes that I am aware of.

[@AmateurRedneckWorkshop]

Thanks for an interesting video.

[@t.d.mich.7064]

Another way to get a short surface square or parallel to your reference surface is to use the smallest clamp you have and clamp a tool bit crossways to the short surface, using the tool bit as a surface to be indicated.

[@mrpete222]

Great idea

[@lesthompson5907]

still, waiting for part 4 #709.

[@jerrydemas2020]

Mr. Pete, I remember when you used a 100 tooth circular saw blade as a indexer on your lathe. Jerry in Pa.

[@mrpete222]

Yes

[@tonyn3123]

Enjoyed the video. Not being a machinist, but doing tapping from time to time, can you explain the drill sizes for the various size taps? I have the (online available) Starrett inch/metric drill size chart and decimal equivalents, but not sure I understand the ranges or allowances of sizes. If you have a video of this info, just post the link. Thanks.

[@RichardKinch]

_Machinerys Handbook_ is the complete reference (tables and formulas), but just Web search for "tap drill chart" for common sizes.

[@halbronk7133]

5:21 I think I've seen deburring tools that look just like that. For putting a small chamfer on the edge of a drilled hole.

[@3ducksaquack254]

Good morning Mr Pete! I am making this grinding jig out of aluminum instead of steel with steel square hole inserts. Will loctite 609 retaining compound be a good choice to hold the inserts?

[@mrpete222]

Sorry, I do not remember the numbers of the Loctite products

[@ellieprice363]

I think almost any grade of red loctite would work to lock the inserts.

[@3ducksaquack254]

@@ellieprice363 Thank you, I tried using loctite 609 color green and it work on the 3/8" holder. I will try the red loctite 262 on 1/4" holder. Nothing ventured, Nothing gained. Thanks again.

[@trialnterror]

Would it be advantageous to make it so that you could change out the square stock in the same piece so you can use different sizes in the same piece?

[@kensherwin4544]

I think you'll find that each square "ID" will have a different OD.

[@umahunter]

I bought one of these when I first started and I'll admit I had some trouble figuring out how to use it when to hold in what positions with the minimal directions provided and no videos from anyone one thing I did to save wasting hss blanks to get things figured out was get some cold rolled square to practice on lol that's when I also learned that hot rolled is usually way undersized to its stated dimension 😂

[@mrpete222]

Thank you for watching and commenting I will cover that all in the follow up video which will be available on Saturday

[@P61guy61]

Thank you for posting

[@dennybarton3256]

I'm attempting to turn a #3 Morris taper on my 12" Clausing using a lathe dog between centers , using a dial indicator on the tail stock, how many thousands should I move the tail stock ?

[@bwyseymail]

How long is your shaft? Doesn't matter since the shaft should be indicated directly while also indicating the carriage travel. A little trig will tell you what the offset should be for the angle you want. I think Joe Pie has the best trig explanations.

[@dennybarton3256]

@@bwyseymail Thank you for the reply , the shaft is 6" , I'm making a Morris taper #3 for a 3/8" center drill bit for the tail stock,

[@PaulSteMarie]

That cutter looks like a D bit, which are fairly easy to make in a home shop from drill rod, and can cut various sorts of profiles, such as this. You do need to turn on the machine, though 😁

[@kevingates503]

Awesome work

[@mrpete222]

Thanks a lot 😊

[@cotton1004]

Great information!

[@johnhollyfield6557]

awesome as usual!

[@charlessalsman7709]

Just curious, why would you need to mark 360 why not say 30 each side of 0?

[@riceburner32]

When using the spindexer if you would have moved the pin to 5 position then it would have indexed into the next 5 degrees taking the guess work out of finding the next 5⁰.

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@clydedecker765]

Query: Are all the graduation numbers applied by using number stamps and a hammer? If so, how do you go about aligning and holding them?

[@RichardKinch]

Mr Pete eyeballs it and has steady hand-holding skill, making it look easy. In fact, it is tricky to get precisely right on the first try striking one hammer blow, which is all you get. Five degrees of freedom with just fingers. Your strikes must be correct goldilocks force, and mutually equal for stamping more than one digit. And there's no backspace key.

[@qzwqsy]

Great for the great information. Just placed an order with Green bay

[@mrpete222]

👍

[@johnstrange6799]

It'd be nice to blue them. Loved the project.

[@lesthompson5907]

not got #709 Part 4 . get it done son . where is it still waiting . what's tacking so long . ? les England, i see their now for sail on eBay . in the UK for £,121.pounda & 64 prance interesting dont you think why haven we see Tips #709.part 4 .

[@aw738]

Could you have used a piece of key stock instead of the tool bit when drilling the hole?

[@bwyseymail]

Yes, or just pull the stock part way out so the drill will miss.

[@johncolvin2561]

One can use square key stock to align the square holes with the zero mark. Then one does not have to worry about damaging the drill bit.

[@mrpete222]

👍

[@waynec369]

"360 monotonous degrees..." Thanks Mr. Pete... Now I have Coca-Cola running out of my nose... Purry shure that tool you're using for engraving is exactly that and can be spinning for the job of engraving. I use carbide versions with my vertical machining centers for engraving serial/part numbers. Spindle speed is 10,000 RPM, feeding @ 10 IPM. Leaves a very clean finish.

[@mrpete222]

LOL. Had lots of Coca-Cola come out of my nose over the years. And then again I never put Coke into my nose like a good part of our population

[@waynec369]

@@mrpete222 LOL same here!

[@ngocle-qp5rv]

Bạn bán đồ này ở đâu ? Cảm ơn

[@kurtjohnson3496]

I’m going to practice with my dividing had now!!

[@seldendaniel8819]

I know that comments help the channel, so this is my comment: Excellent!

[@mrpete222]

Thanks

[@ohmbug10]

👍👍I liked the video so much I gave you two thumbs up. (I have two logins.)😁

[@mrpete222]

👍👍

[@danmartin9558]

Enjoyed content

[@simpleman283]

A lot of people say the word level, when they really mean flush or parallel. Maybe they just don't know or think you don't. IDK, but it is amusing.

[@davidstansbury3204]

I love.. by guess and by gosh

[@lesthompson5907]

towi n one tool, by using it with a headend drill Guide For cradling round stock , by using a 1/2"hole top a bottom . !? in the vice . It as possibility's , .

[@lesthompson5907]

tow in one tooling . cross drilling jig & lath tool sharpening jig . ? tow in one . yes .

[@floridaflywheelersantiquee7578]

Thanks mrpete222

[@mikeskupniewitz8057]

Why not turn a circular feature on end of square block and then just engrave that… instead of engraving all 4 inserts sleeves?

[@mrpete222]

Good idea

[@tropifiori]

I am so bad at grinding bits I may try this

[@bwyseymail]

Wait. WHAT? Your mill table isn't level. What kind of a shop are you running?

[@mbak7801]

The scribe you could make as a single flute cutting tool on a D-bit grinder but slightly differently to the normal shape. The start point would be a piece of solid carbide with split ends. All explained in:- kzbin.info/www/bejne/jH21mGVqgdeWgNk&ab_channel=Blondihacks

[@geobrown9413]

Think I would engrave the markings only 90* to the right, then left, from 0*. You'll probably never use the bottom half anyway. Then there is no alignment problem at the end if you're out a bit.

[@jodydoakes8754]

Are those markings imperial or metric?

[@daveticehurst4191]

Silly Arse. They are Degrees.

[@jonedmonds1681]

Not sure radians sit well with indexers! The world would be a better place if they did :-)

[@CD-oe6lc]

Most likely Whitworth degree values 😊

[@jodydoakes8754]

@@CD-oe6lc .......requiring a Whitworth spanner??

[@CD-oe6lc]

@@jodydoakes8754 I would have to say yes, exclusively

[@eddylanzboy]

👍👍👍👍👍😀

[@stevewilliams2498]

Mr. Pete. We're you in fact guilty of overthinking your setup ? You didn't need the clamp and second vice when you drilled the second hole. You didn't need the tool bit inside either. You had established the correct position with your graduations and you had a grub screw to clamp it.

[@mrpete222]

Yes

[@Siskiyous6]

I am saddened you feel your channel is floundering. I have heard other active content providers say the same thing, so maybe it is a bigger trend. Or, YT itself has been picking the winners it wants to win in the algorithm shenanigans

[@mrpete222]

I’m not sure what is happening. I blame it on myself for Producing poor videos of little interest to people. Also, there are many many great creators. But I really do blame some of it on KZbin. They gave lots and lots of support to channels that already have millions of viewers. Almost impossible for new producers to get views.

[@StageRightvideo]

Mr Pete, I think that if you looked up about D cutters for machine engraving. Such as with pantograph machines. Then looked a bit more at the cutting angles. I'm sure you'll want to simply grind a tiny angle at the tip of that tool you used and then try engraving with it rotating at high speed. Because it looks to me that it's a new D cutter that hasn't been made ready for use yet.

[@davidturner6509]

I think I would have engraved the 90 degree marks all the way across.

[@lesthompson5907]

is it any wonder your channel is falling wen you tack so long to post stuff . I'm still waiting to see tips #709 part 4 . there is Nothing war's than a program you never get the end of .

[@mrpete222]

Troll

[@lesthompson5907]

I'm no troll It the falling's of you ability to beaver your channel & program clearly you dont like criticism " Blubber". England I have pointed out your Rudeness before. Manner make the man son . i do not post videos because there never delivers on time I suggest you follow the 7 [P] . prier planning &preparation prevents a piss poor performance son got it yet .