"South Park Made it Cool to Not Care"

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[@henruks]

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[@natsukisdad]

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[@bwaaableh]

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[@nosamgeography1249]

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[@Brian25174]

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[@thepengyknight]

Not to mention the episode “You’re Getting Old”, which is Stan learning how awful it is to not care. The proof’s all there

[@ARCtheCartoonMaster]

Not to mention "Raisins", where he constantly dwells on his depression due to the breakup, and ends up joining the goth kids as a result, only to realise it was furthering the issue.

[@AluminumFusion22]

​@@ARCtheCartoonMasterAnd said episode reinforces the idea that life has its lows sometimes, but it'll never be purely negative and caring enough about something to be disappointed if it doesn't work out is a reassurance that you're human.

[@MintyLime703]

The end of the following episode kinda shows he's not exactly back to normal, though. He still had liquor hidden in his drawer that he took a swig of before leaving with the others. Those two episodes hit me way too hard as I relate 100%. I can barely bring myself to watch them.

[@darkdiamonds4337]

That’s why I was dumbfounded anyone can come to this conclusion and have actually WATCHED the show.

[@CheerfullyCynical829]

Big difference. It wasn't up to Stan. He hated being so depressed, cynical and disinterested......but you can't control that. It's the way his brain was functioning at the time. You can't just WILL yourself out of depression.

[@literallyhomeless1043]

I think Cartman makes the point very clear because he's always pretending to care for selfish reasons like a Twitter user posting for likes

[@symptomofsouls]

He's also a prime example of what happens to your kid if you don't do any parenting, which is a subtle jab to the parents who complain about their kids watching the show (just don't let them watch it)

[@tiablue9106]

ikr? Cartman will pretend to have tourette’s, pretend to be trans, pretend to be suicidal, pretend to have anxiety (though tbf ig he rlly did think he had anxiety), whatever if it means he’ll get what he wants. There’s nothing more aggravating than ppl pointing to Cartman pretending to be smth and saying the show is making fun of the group Cartman is tryna benefit off. Like, it’s Cartman lol. And again for the anxiety thing, a lot of ppl thought they were making fun of ppl w/ anxiety when they were rlly making fun of the ppl who not only claim to have anxiety when they obviously don’t, but those who expect the world to bend over backwards for them and let them do whatever they want bc “b-but muh mental health”

[@Hugsloth]

Weird how it's a concern someone might copy Cartman's "bigoted behavior", ignoring that Cartman has also, y'know, *murdered people and made them into chili* ... Cmon. Anyone modeling their beliefs after Cartman is watching the show with blinders on, to miss the massive neon warning signs the show puts around him narratively, to show he is NOT a good person and should NOT be emulated.

[@urphakeandgey6308]

This is also why I think many people are misunderstanding "Joining the Panderverse" to an extent. Everyone's quick to point out "you're not supposed to sympathize with Cartman! It makes fun of him because he's racist!" What they don't realize is that the same largely applies to black female Cartman as well. She just does it in reverse.

[@khatdubell]

@@Hugsloth Chili _con carne_

[@alexanderneukirchen4981]

Another point against it "being cool to not care" would be the character of Wendy. She is a very vocal activist for many important causes and very at odds with the worst characters in the show. She's ome of "the good ones", but embodies the frustration that people have to deal with when they want to better the world. She IS cool for it and people working against her are the worst.

[@oll708]

GOSH THIS IS BOR-ING BEING SERIOUS ISNT COOL AND NOT CARING IS COOL SO SUT IT NOW!

[@urphakeandgey6308]

That's a fair point. Wendy tends to fight for good causes and what not, but isn't painfully preachy like many characters similar to her might be nowadays. You actually empathize with Wendy more because she's kind of the only one who truly cares in a world of apathy. She doesn't fake it like Cartman during his PC phase or even PC principal himself to an extent.

[@ellimac4386]

@@urphakeandgey6308 most people are not like Wendy or Cartman, most people are just Stan and Kyle, who are kind in nature but can be influenced by ideas. Randy initially was extremely pro-democrat, but Stan didn't turn out to be a "woke" character because he saw through Randy's belief was not based on virtue and he kinda hates his dad. Kyle on the other hand has much less turbulent relationship with Gerald, an long-standing embodiment of a "liberal douche" character, so he tends to be comfortably more vocal and "woke" about social issues, whether his takes are right and reasonable, or hypocritical and selfish. Same goes for Kenny, Butters, Tolkien*, Craig, Jimmy, all the kids and their family define how they approach social issues or "things worth caring". These are very subtle yet very effective.

[@Tootz3374]

@@ellimac4386big brain

[@errorx_x1063]

Boo, Boo Wendy, Booooo

[@alexanderrahl7034]

" a generation of kids who grew up watching south park" We can all see whats wrong with that sentence lol

[@ARCtheCartoonMaster]

This is why American media needs to be more upfront about the rating system. Here in Australia, back when cable/satellite was a thing, they would outright *announce* the rating at the start of the show (e.g. "the following programme is classified M, and is recommended for viewers 15 years and older"). Yet, in America, they just tucked the rating in the corner of the screen when the show starts, and can be easily missed. TF, America?

[@alexanderrahl7034]

@ARCtheCartoonMaster south park and other shows like it all began and still begin with a black screen listing off how people I'm the show aren't people in real life, and ending with "viewer discretion is advised" Regardless of that, it don't matter none. I and my friends _knew_ we weren't supposed to be watching South park when we were kids, staying up at sleepovers. We did it because it was a funny show and we wanted to. Hell, that lice episode traumatized the shit outta me 🤣 I still don't wanna watch it as an adult lol. Same goes for video games. My cousins and I used to go up to my uncle's room at my grandma's and play Resident Evil 2 on his Playstation. We called it the "zombie game" and ran around the neighborhood at cookouts, in a macabre game of tag where one person was the "zombie" shambling after everyone. And they always ran when no one was looking xD That decapitated Grey head on the opening screens scared the bejesus out of us. But we played it because nobody was supervising us and we wanted to. We knew we weren't old enough for that shit lol. When I went to my cousins house, we'd play grand theft auto San Andreas on their play station and run over hooked for their knives and money. Again, because our parents would never let us get that game at our house 😆 There is no ignorance of the rating system anymore. It's just apathy of parents

[@nono-pm1cb]

​@@ARCtheCartoonMasterW Australia the gta 5 radio making fun of Australia is goofy

[@manat31790]

@@ARCtheCartoonMaster It's always an open secret that kids watch adult cartoons and play gory video games not meant to be played by children. That was the entire plot of the first movie, published just one year after the show start airing, and the same idea has been floating around forever. It doesn't matter which country the works are from or what "ratings" they have, kids from around the world WILL find ways to consume them nonetheless. Matt and Trey have always known about this since the very beginning. The people who yell at the shows? They're no different to those MAC adults who would rather complain and cancel creators, because pretending to be revolutionists or yelling at social media gives them more senses of power and authority than sitting next to their kids and actually teaching them about things they see on TV.

[@gloverfox9135]

@@ARCtheCartoonMasterMaybe that’s why Australia bans so much media than it’s hilarious

[@realSirDextrose]

South Park has always taken clear moral stances. People mistake this for apathy because they don’t take either side 100% of the time. When they criticize South Park for being apathetic they’re just mad that they criticize both sides instead of being subservient to the tribe.

[@Anonymous-ib7dc]

You wouldn’t believe how many people don’t even get anything that’s happening and think it’s just plain dumb 😂

[@Choshako]

I'd bet my entire bank account that the people who claim SP is about not caring have only seen clips of the show, not even full episodes or seasons, or know anything about Matt and Trey. If they did, they'd know that out of everything those two have been accused of over the years, not caring is the most bullshit accusation of all. Twitter really is the place where rational thought, deductive reasoning, and empathy go to die.

[@dirtydan5281]

Twitter falls under the same curse Tumblr did, where people refuse to just admit they dislike or are uninterested in a piece of media. So they make sure to declare how problematic it is as a justification and declare people who enjoy said media are also problematic. Like in these spaces it is somehow not okay to just admit you dislike it because you simply dislike it?

[@cultreader9751]

@dirtydan5281 to be fair, it is totally acceptable to dislike a piece of media because it has a truly rancid moral, which some do. Attacking people who like it, on the other hand...

[@dirtydan5281]

@cultreader9751 I can definitely agree with you there. There isn't anything wrong with nuance when discussing shows that have questionable messages, but a lot of people refuse to discuss. Instead they basically say "this is bad and if you enjoy it or don't understand why its bad, then you're bad". I really hope this whole attitude dies out soon because it causes so much unnecessary drama, and the "activism" of the people starting said drama just makes it all seem ridiculous. When I see like...young teens with takes like that, it makes sense. But to see grown adults with this attitude is a bit scary lmfao

[@jordanekl5383]

Theres more than one reason, and im sure that does facto into it. But didja listen to the part of the vid about extremists?? Seems like it went over your head a little bit to me...

[@jessehenderson2967]

As someone who grew up in a white town in the moutains that was covered in snow for at least a quarter of the year and was one of very few black kids, I spent most of my middle school to high school being called "Coon and Token". So to say there arent people out there who misconstrue the message, is being naive. My friend Victor unironically loved Cartman and would often, seriously, spew the jew hatred stuff and quote the H man, my guy. Not everyone, but I do think some people took that "its cool to not care" shit to heart.

[@localmenace3043]

If I had a dollar for every time someone criticizing the show deliberately took it out of context to paint its fans in a bad light, I could’ve gotten my own place by now.

[@byronrush9802]

Exactly it's like the time they thought South Park was making fun of Lorde by saying she's a middle-aged man and that wasn't even the joke Randy couldn't afford to get Lorde to perform at Stan's party so he dressed up as Lorde, this guy works for spin magazine so they turned this hot take into a episode Randy officially became Lorde 😂

[@alicelookingthroughtheglas2933]

And it’s gone!

[@midnight_180]

@@alicelookingthroughtheglas2933 🤣🤣

[@eric6cartman9]

@@byronrush9802 nah randy is lorde, they did a whole episode about it a while ago

[@byronrush9802]

@@eric6cartman9 that was in response to that guy from spin magazine

[@Myszkaedzio]

mannn if i was given a nickel everytime someone made a terrible take on twitter/x I'd be richer than elon himself

[@Euroneurogreece3097]

I can agree with this one.

[@SilasSeiler]

Well put and very true.

[@Folfah]

@@SilasSeilerlmao beep boop type comment. No it wasn’t.

[@IMINSIDEURWALLS.]

@@Folfah bro chill it was just a comment lol don’t need to start a war 2 comments in

[@headcrabking9054]

​@@Folfahyou'd have enough money to finally shut down Twitter and make it go away

[@MrEffectfilms]

South Park is bolder than something like Rick and Morty. Nihilism and Apathy are a dime a dozen these days so everyone feels like that's fine. The real issue everyone has with South Park is the fact that SP is not afraid to challenge what has become the norm. Rick and Morty simply represents what has become the norm.

[@isellyourkidsmeth]

Rick and Morty isn’t really nihilistic tho, they show clearly how Rick’s nihilism makes him suffer the most out of anyone in the show.

[@asparagus420]

fr! Rick and Morty doesn't say anything meaningful about real life, just plays with philosophical ideas without having a particular stance about any of them

[@KennethA77777]

@@asparagus420Ong. I used to be obsessed with that show and let me just say this-if anything, Rick And Morty has a WAY more toxic influence on young viewers than South Park.

[@alhfgsp]

​@asparagus420 Rick and Morty does show the consequences of a nihilistic world view through the tragedy of Rick as a character. He once had personal meaning and a feeling of purpose with his true love. His exposure to the reality of infinite realities has given him profound dispare. His outward display of apathy is a coping mechanism. This is juxtaposed to the rest of the family that very much cares deeply about things in their life. And despite Rick's apathy, he can't help but care about them.

[@alexolivers9476]

I don't think nihilism is inherently bad, but I think that also might be due to the misconception that nihilism is inherently pessimistic. I'd probably consider myself a nihilist, but I'm an extremely optimistic person. It's less of a "nothing matters, so I should give up on caring" and more of "nothing matters, so I get to decide what matters to me". Basically I have the confidence to take my life into my own hands, because at the end of the day, the impact I'll have on the universe means nothing, so if I decide what matters to me, it's going to be about enjoying my life and making an immediate impact on those around me.

[@MariktheGunslinger]

If there's anything to take away from South Park, it's the importance of being self-aware.

[@JD-iu6rv]

South Park has honestly gotten me to care about certain issues or see issues in different ways. That’s way more beneficial than other adult shows have done

[@gh0rochi363]

The show has better life lessons then most kids shows. Not saying I agree with them 100% but they actually do care and you can tell.

[@amandam1114]

there are issues I would have never known about if it wasn't for SP. Matt and Trey portray things in a way that isn't overly preachy, digestible, and is just stupid enough to still be funny. People who often complain about the show are the ones that have never watched it

[@Mr.Beanyuwu]

Mention atleast once thing that south park made you care about

[@sspiderlily_]

@@Mr.Beanyuwuyou probably don’t understand, South Park makes serious topics more stupid and used well,, in a more funnier context which is way easier to understand which suddenly opens up a door to actually somewhat thinking about it which makes you care about a topic more, if you have not seen principal Victoria’s speech about cancer or some other parts of the show, you can definetly realize that it does help with understanding.

[@kbar3612]

You know, I learned something today!

[@marimeister]

south park honestly gets misinterpreted so much by literally everyone, it’s so annoying

[@junyaiwase]

not by me

[@vegeta9501]

​@@junyaiwaseword

[@ARetardedRetard]

Good lord, for real

[@LessGo7921]

It gets so misinterpreted, even Kanye West doesn’t understand the Fishsticks joke 15 years later 😂

[@chrisakaschulbus4903]

The funny thing is always... you are probably the judge of the right interpretation... it's literally called an interpretation for a reason. There really can't be "a right one" because then you could just write it down and the subject matter would be closed.

[@nyxsangel]

“South Park is Racist!” “South Park is homophobic!” “South Park is [insert any form of bigotry]!” And then the show in question is satire and actively mocks bigots, and three of the four main characters have what would be considered “liberal/left leaning” views. Like if you ever watch the show you’ll know that y’all are genuinely tripping 99% of the time.

[@Princess_Celestia_]

Well, that was true in the 90's to the 2010's but these days the left is soon far left that these "liberal/left leaning" view is now considered far right by comparison.

[@hopelessromantic3786]

@@Princess_Celestia_ The right is banning libraries in Florida. The Supreme Court is discarding the separation of church and state almost daily, and you think the left has gone too far? For what? The US is a conservative country by pretty much every metric.

[@hatinmyselfiscool2879]

​@@Princess_Celestia_ wth are you talking about buddy, if anything the left waa more radical in the 1990s because they still had the political influence of the soviets and their former allies?

[@johnmccarthy4134]

I see why you put three out of four 😂

[@namixless9732]

i feel like i see more misinterpretations from the other side tbh. theres alot of people that think southpark is anti woke when its really the opposite

[@SairajRKamath]

South Park is the only show that had the guts to criticise China in an age where even the most powerful media conglomerates don't want to offend them out of fear of losing their business. For that, they'll always have my respect.

[@mchester1234]

Definitely.

[@chrislair6832]

Goddamn right

[@mlgfin]

It’s always been very obvious to me that South Park makes fun of extremists. They don’t make fun of people for caring, they make fun of the people who care that are too far on both sides.

[@AluminumFusion22]

They also openly mock hypocrites or people exploiting a cause for their own selfish gain.

[@mlgfin]

@@AluminumFusion22 exactly they never mock anyone for a stupid reason. Except for Al Gore lol.

[@funnyvalentine6670]

​@@mlgfinEven with Al Gore, dude was dumb but wasn't magically not dumb cause he thought global warming was becoming bad. Stupid people can have great ideas sometimes.

[@vardiganxpl1698]

They did basically apologize to him later on ​@@mlgfin

[@mlgfin]

@@vardiganxpl1698 I’m aware

[@_EnisStudiosASNR]

I have personally been offended by South Park before because of the Harley episode because I really like motorcycles, but I still laughed because I can laugh at myself sometimes. People who can laugh at other people but not themselves are hypocritical. South Park really is just saying that if something exists they can make fun of it. If you don’t like it don’t watch.

[@symptomofsouls]

The aspbergers episode was one of the funniest ones I watched, because I have aspbergers and it was pretty much accurate. It starts as what everyone thinks it is, then devolves into what it actually is when the adults leave. Golden

[@sketchystrawberry302]

that episode was funny as fuck, i’m not a motorcycle guy but i am gay 😭

[@leephillips4402]

You just described practically the shows whole fanbase.

[@balls5257]

@@symptomofsoulsbest episode in the show due to how accurately it interpreted depression and trauma

[@khatdubell]

That episode wasn't really even making fun of people who like motorcycles though, it was making fun of a certain sort of motorcycle rider. Basically people who show up to sturgis.

[@Zbballs]

I whole heartedly believe that south park covers one issue extensively, its one issue that southpark has always covered, free speech, this entire show is in support of free speech, and the offensiveness that goes along with it is the evidence behind this, along side Matt and Trey literally willing to die for free speech

[@bradyblue5269]

With how many times they've said the N-word uncensored, I truly love how much they believe nothing is off limits

[@byronrush9802]

Yeah especially when terrorists were going to bomb the South Park offices which is how a South Park episode was censored for the first time,I'm talking about the Muhammad episodes which there are three of The super best friends episode that's the first one he's in cartoon wars and the 200th episode two parter Kyle customary speech gets censored it was directed at the terrorists

[@byronrush9802]

​@@Eeandd-r9jand what that says about Scientology putting words in people's mouths not letting them get the health care they need

[@jamesn3122]

Cool?

[@jordanekl5383]

Theres allot more than just that... Like having an extremest point of view. You know, saying something is all about a single thing.... Stuff like your post righ here, thats ignoring the full picture. They are willing to die for their beliefs. Not just freedom of speach. Thats only a single factor to their motivations.

[@dogwithheadphones]

South Park haters when “I disagree with it therefore it’s bad” isn’t a valid argument for why the show is supposedly so bad

[@marshallw1902]

The same goes to you SP defenders for the same exact thing.

[@Chilloutlilbro]

​@@marshallw1902What? Are you like mad about a specific event or are you just "both side equal bad durr!!" smooth brain yapping

[@9cartier]

@@Chilloutlilbro😂I’m dying rn

[@dataexpunged93N15]

Thing is, there's stuff in SP that's too much for some people, but they still enjoy the show as a whole- you don't have to put a stamp of approval on everything a piece of media does just because you like said media. People need to understand that you can simply not like an episode or a show as a whole without harassing others for liking it. You can absolutely be annoyed by seeing it, but that's when you put on your adult pants, and say, "that's not for me, therefore, I won't look at it." For the record: this isn't to say that constructive criticism isn't good. All media can be criticized in good faith- but many times, these "critiques" are pedantic, vitriolic, and often untrue, dripping with bias against said media.

[@MikeChhem]

I agree. The way that TikTok is maliciously bullying South Park because of the cringe side of the fandom is sickening. Clearly almost the entire TikTok platform doesn’t know jack shit about the show. It’s fine if you don’t like the show it’s not the best thing in the world. For example they make fun of Family Guy with an accurate portrayal of its writing despite the manatees being fictional. That episode was years ago. And then the show and the fandom responded with, “A-HA THE CREATORS ARE GAY AND THE FANDOM IS FILLED WITH CHILDREN AND PEDOPHILES!” Shit like this are the things South Park is actually making fun of. It really sucks that people respect shows like Modern Family Guy and Big Mouth because of the dark humor, even though dark humor poorly works there.

[@BigK13372]

Oh please, SOMEBODY, think of poor South Park. The universially popular and grandfather adult cartoon is being bullied by kids on TikTok. Its clearly receiving more vitriol than Family Guy and Big Mouth in the grand scheme of- what the FUCK kind of gaslighting are you pulling with this shit?

[@actualgoblin]

Literally every fandom will have cringey people in it. I hate it when people act like that's a metric to judge the quality of a piece of media by.

[@phabiorules]

I’d say that South Park is respected a lot more than family guy, and far more than big mouth.

[@actualgoblin]

@@phabiorules comparing any cartoon (excluding a certain genre of anime) to big mouth will make it seem good and wholesome

[@nono-pm1cb]

Tik tok's shit alltogether those mfs complain about south park while talking about cum every milisecond, and now they spreading to youtube. And ye I agree in the south park fandom there's gay mfs who make sp corn and the normal people who watch the show and show they like it

[@vrzM8]

Basically, comedy shows are a place to collectively explore and criticise society and our feelings without hurting (almost) anyone real. It's very important to express yourself, warts and all. Doing it through fiction is the healthiest way - much healthier than having no outlet and *acting* on impulse. South Park is about cathartically releasing a knee jerk feeling, then breaking that down. Also, they didn't create this, the majority of people at any one time have never cared. The show was popular because the silent majority related to it.

[@345Taco]

Whether you agree or disagree with South Parks' takes, Trey and Matt are passionate about their opinions. They're extremely far from not caring

[@sardonicus1739]

I think the real issue is they strawman everyone they don't agree with to make their own bad takes seem more rational showing complete lack of ability to be as critical about their own biases as the people they make fun of. It's really easy to frame something like climate change as silly when they ignore all the scientific evidence about it and just frame it as being ridiculous as a manbearpig, leading to having a fandom that also uncritically accepts this kind of stuff for years before finally backtracking long after the damage has already been done. You never see them teasing and making fun of their own libertarian beliefs in the way they make fun of everyone else, because that's the narrative they're actively pushing as being correct, facts be damned. I wish they were as passionate about fact checking how accurate their biases are as they are as passionate about pushing those biases as the only rational position.

[@345Taco]

@@sardonicus1739 They've had a few bad takes but the majority are good in my opinion. Even the ManBearPig episode which you speak of, they admitted they were wrong in a later episode. I'm not one of those people that has to agree with something 100 percent to enjoy it. I appreciate various opinions and outlooks

[@ridemywheelie]

Their take on climate change was spot on. Al Gore is out for himself. @@sardonicus1739

[@DaBlackX]

@@sardonicus1739 That's been my main issue with South Park for years. The show constantly builds up its own easily deconstructed strawmen, all so they can position themselves as being "the sane people in a sea of crazy." It's pathetic.

[@Chilloutlilbro]

​@@sardonicus1739Hi! I just wanted to let you know that making your stupid replys way too long and restating the same thing 86 times makes makes it inherently harder to argue against and as such less people will argue with you. I know you love to keyboard warrior edge whatever the fuck so just being helpful ❤👍

[@steakismeat177]

They didn't apologize to Al Gore for how they portrayed him. They admitted he was right on climate change, that's it. If anything, they doubled down on attacking Gore's character, making him more concerned with how people view him and apologize to him than actually solving the issue

[@tiablue9106]

tbf every tv show I’ve seen use al gore has always portrayed him as some kinda weirdo. idk why, but

[@JetstreamTheSexSam]

Because the person he is, is a retard. You can criticize a person while agreeing with their take

[@nateeeeeee]

@@tiablue9106 Omg youre right. Was gonna mention Futurama but their depiction is shockingly similar to SP's, for being such a tonally different show.

[@hatinmyselfiscool2879]

​@@tiablue9106how is that a too be fair point exactly. They made a mistake and mocked someone for being concerned about something, zhen in the episode where they have to admit they are at fault instead of actually being genuinly sorry they mock al gore as if he didn't care about the topic only the offense against it.

[@ZumbieGuy]

@@tiablue9106that’s because Al Gore was notorious for being an asshole while serving in politics. He was claimed to be narcissistic, having really weird speech patterns, and just generally off putting

[@gangstalkerr]

not to mention how 90% of the people watching south park are watching it purely for the entertainment value alone, and aren't finishing the episode by taking away some kind of message or moral of the story. we just wanna watch cartoon kids say fuck and get into chaotic situations

[@antonioreconquistador]

I guess the premise is that it's a cartoon and kids like cartoons, therefore trey and matt's disregard for your opinion has something to do with everyone else's disregard for your opinion. A lampoon of society's pretenses is just a response to society's pretenses, which will shape peoples' opinions just as much as any comedy or documentary.

[@cheapshot3286]

Imagine going onto social media and claiming a tv show is responsible for all the brain rot

[@evalovett]

South Park made me realize how out of proportion my thoughts were. It expanded my mind from outside a stupid box. I saw my flaws, laughed at myself, and don’t take myself too seriously (I still do but this show made me more aware)

[@Lumiiify]

The issue with this entire discussion is that, alot of people just don't watch the show. You have one side who think it's edgy therefore its bad, and you have the other side see edgy and think it's endorsement.

[@yeshevishman]

You also forgot the side that sees edgy and thinks it MUST be right! (Granted they're smaller, but just as vocal.)

[@ciberkid22]

"Don't fuck with South Park fans! We haven't watched the show!"

[@RanterInShades]

I get irrationally upset when people misunderstand South Park and why people like me love it.

[@drewo.127]

As someone who doesn’t watch South Park, but does watch vids about it, I’ve got a pretty good idea as to why it’s so loved, and I’m pretty sure not everyone who likes it are “apathetic morons” or whatever! 👍

[@GayFishYe]

Honestly, I'm on the same boat. But at the same time, I don't like to gatekeep stuff, I believe anyone should be free to consume & interpret whatever media they want. Just some are looking to give something they haven't delved into, some bad publicity, because they're dense, and simply can't admit they don't understand the appeal behind it. It's fine to not like something, it's another to repeatedly & unapologetically show blatant ignorance towards what it's about.

[@marshallw1902]

What about those who do understand SP and still dislike it? You can't have it both ways.

[@Regarded69]

@@marshallw1902 Everybody can have their own opinions and preferences, but when you're announcing to the world that you dislike a show and you completely missrepresent what it is about you can expect to get people clapping back.

[@chrisbacon1275]

With the anti-smoking episode, it shows how much Matt and Trey dislike hypocrisy (which I feel like comes up a lot as well in the show) like "How can you speak about smoking being unhealthy when youre obese and unhealthy?"

[@antonioreconquistador]

It's also an establishment issue, the "solution" is often just higher taxes and prices that go directly to the companies and the government. The same goes for electricity, gas, oil, alcohol, even drugs people develop a necessity for. Idek the fat figurehead in it but the idea is that these people don't care about you just because they say they care about an issue that might harm peoples' livelihoods.

[@NobodyC13]

There's also elements of classism involved, like the scene when Rob Reiner is beligerent on the Redneck smoking in the bar. The Redneck is smoking in a bar, which was legal in Colorado at the time (I think?) So it's within the Redneck's right. Rob Reiner explodes,:"Oh my God! What kind of backwards hick-state is this?" The Redneck pleads: "Look man, I work 14 hours a day at the saw mill. I just got off work and I need to relax." Rob Reiner: "Well when I relax, I just got to my vacation house in Hawaii!" Redneck: "I AIN"T GOT A VACATION HOUSE IN HAWAII!" Rob Reiner: "Your vacation house is in Mexico then, whatever!" Matt Stone and Trey Parker were born and raised in Colorado, and they've grown up knowing all the state's stereotypes of being a flyover state or being associated with the negative stereotypes of the Rust Belt. Hell, the reason they hate Barbara Streissand with a passion was because she declared the whole state to be full of hicks and proposed a boycott in response to the Colorado Supreme Court floating around the idea of passing a homophobic law/policy in the early 90s (Matt and Trey support gay rights and fair treatment, they just hate that Streissand directed her anger at all of Colorado and not the state government). So yeah, another reoccuring theme in South Park is mocking people who come from higher social and/or economic backgrounds feeling liked they're more than qualified to lecture people who don't come from higher social and/or economic backgrounds on important issues without bothering to understand them, or present it in a grossly ignorant and condescending way. I think the one scene in the whole series that describes this attitude succinctly is when Mr. Garrison blows up at Rosie O'Donnell in the Trapper Keeper episode: "People like you preach tolerance and open-mindedness all the time, but when it comes to Middle America, you think we're all evil and stupid country yokels who need your political enlightenment! Well, just because you're on TV doesn't mean you know crap about the government! Now get your ass back on first class and respect this class's right to make up their own minds!" Only in this day and age, replace "TV" with "KZbin channel" or "Twitter account."

[@peopleofearth6250]

That's just life. Get over it. Stop complaining.

[@pastajade]

@@peopleofearth6250bro took it to heart

[@Pugkin5405]

That isn't really hypocrisy. You can recognize something is bad but still not care. You can know smoking is bad and still smoke, and you can kbesewhkle knowing it's bad for you and you can still point it our to people without being a hypocrite

[@TheHallow31]

These are exactly the type of people the South Park Movie was making fun of with the "Blame Canada" bit. Each generation brings with it a new wave of overzealous, holier-than-thou, self-involved, fart-sniffing lunatics who gleefully point the finger at music, movies, and TV shows for "corrupting the youth".

[@LiftandCoa]

Point of reference: People trying to cancel eminem every other year lol

[@walicegilace4490]

Honestly, this show has improved my way of thinking so much. It helped me think about the entire scope of an issue rather than just blindly supporting or hating something when someone told me too.

[@mitchellhodgemeyer1950]

I also feel the Douche and Turd episode tried to convey that non-participation was a rational conclusion. There are folks who believe the solution to low voter turnout is compelled voting, rather than looking to why people aren’t engaged. The ‘Vote or Die’ campaign seemed to be on the compelled participation side, and were shown to be morally bankrupt.

[@jamiegreenberg8476]

i think the peta segment was supposed to show what voting for a 3rd party is like- you may like them better but you know it will never happen (the peta compound gets destroyed and stan has to flee)

[@symptomofsouls]

@@jamiegreenberg8476 Also showing that sometimes the 3rd party candidate is even worse, I mean they were literally having sex with animals

[@joshuaW5621]

I never liked how Stan got kicked out of town just cause he didn’t wanna vote between a douche and a turd. I know South Park is meant to be silly sometimes, but I feel like banning someone for that is a bit harsh, even for South Park.

[@pillsnpiegaming]

so although kids undoubtedly watch the show it was never meant for kids, South Park if i am remembering correctly was one of the first adult cartoons. the fact that she can claim that an entire generation doesnt care because of a show just shows how shity and uninterested in them their parents were. you cant blame a show for poor parenting

[@ARCtheCartoonMaster]

Also, it's understandable that kids would think _South Park_ is a kids' show due to its bright, colourful and simple animation, reminiscent of shows like _Blue's Clues,_ for example. I know I thought it was a kids' show for that reason, until my mum told me it was inappropriate.

[@pillsnpiegaming]

@@ARCtheCartoonMaster Yeah by that logic the most poisonous spiders and snakes are also for children . . . . There really is no excuse as it falls to the parents to "police" what the kid watches. kids will watch SP because its over the top and funny even if they dont even understand 90% of the humor

[@joshuaW5621]

I find it laughable that people treat animation as something for kids even when South Park is as big as it is.

[@LiftandCoa]

And the ones to blame are not cartoon figures but parents lack of seriousness in raising their kids The parents are the issue and perpetrated everything this generation (or any other) is faulted for and its better to tell them on a regular basis. Your kid being apathetic isnt South Parks fault, its yours.

[@MrEmpoleon2010]

It’s pretty much the episode “The Tale of Scrotie” where people will take whatever message they want out of it regardless of the author’s intentions.

[@chiron540]

Another example that proves these people wrong is the episode Chef Goes Nanners, which portrays people who don't pick a side on an issue as idiots.

[@sjeggy6]

I think the al gore hypocrisy was the 3 hummers and private jet he used to travel to tell others to be environmentally friendly, no?

[@gaidencastro9706]

This isn't by accident, nor bad luck. South Park was built to point the direction the world is going, and only then ask it "Where to next?"

[@tkbirdyftw8419]

thats the dumbest thing ive ever heard

[@smaaron_j_46]

I see South Park as a parody of life itself. Not everyone’s gonna agree with each other, so best believe someone’s gonna complain about something, especially these days where we’re just more politically divided than ever. So it’s not that it’s cool to not care, we just think it’s cool to laugh at the absurdity of the show’s content, but still have a mind open enough to understand that not everything is to be taken seriously. It’s just entertainment, at the end of the day.

[@Dixon_Bahtz]

South Park used to be a parody of real life. Now real life has become a parody of South Park.

[@Shadowbot074]

@@Dixon_Bahtzthe more stuff I see that could be in South Park is growing. Crazier and crazier stuff keeps happening

[@johnrockyryan]

​@@Dixon_Bahtz Bro real life had always been a parody of South Park even before it first aired, where do you think Trey and Matt get their ideas from

[@Johnny2Cellos]

bless you, blooms

[@Bloomser]

This one is for the South Park KZbinr community

[@JoshieMadhatt]

I can understand the sentiment honestly. South Park isn't meant to make people care or not care, it's always been meant to be ridiculous, proposterous nonsense and skewer society from any angle imaginable. They make fun of things they find to be absurd or ridiculous and if sometimes they get it wrong well then that's just human error and in fact they acknowledged their fuck up about climate change later in the series by having manbearpig be a real character and phenomenon. It's not that they don't care in general, it's about "I don't care who I piss off" or "I'm going to speak my mind consequences be damned" Ya know people get too bogged down in analysis sometimes when really the show is just two besties making fun of basically the whole world ( themselves included)

[@emic621]

They really are living the dream aren’t they 🥹

[@JoshieMadhatt]

@@emic621 That's true. I'd love to have been able to get rich just fuckin around with my bestie writing ridiculous out there comedy. But it can't be denied that Trey and Matt do have INCREDIBLE writing ability. They're geniuses of satire truly. And I love how hard they went about the Mohammed thing showed they actually have a LOT of integrity and actually DO care about things

[@emic621]

@@JoshieMadhatt absolutely

[@jeepmega629]

People on Twitter can’t think for themselves

[@ZekromAndYugiAndDrago123]

I feel like instead of "South Park makes fun of people who take things seriously" a better message would be "South Park makes fun of people who take things TOO seriously." Many episodes like 200 and 201 making fun of Tom Cruise's inability to take a joke and fragile ego, ManBearPig making fun of (at the time) the seemingly insane levels of seriousness Al Gore had about Climate Change. To me, a lot of episodes like those give the message "It's ok to take things seriously, just don't take things so seriously you look like an ass" However, some people are exactly the kinda people South Park is talking to when they say that, taking things way to seriously to see the message Matt and Trey were going for.

[@r3bs]

We've had evidence of climate change since the 70s. Matt and Trey just fell for the same mainstream propaganda they criticize. It happens to everyone, and it's cool that they admitted it and took the L.

[@NobodyC13]

"It's ok to take things seriously, just don't take things so seriously you look like an ass." When I think of this, I think of Kyle Kallgren of Brows Held High fame.

[@georgemeyers7172]

That or Your being a hypocrite about it... Or you care about it so much that your willing to fuck other people just because they disagree with your views.

[@aubrieg9023]

THIS. Also, Twitter to me is quite literally the definition of 'taking things too seriously'. Twitter is a personal nightmare of people on extreme ends of each spectrum who need to go outside and touch grass (at least all the tweets that get the most attention). I'm so glad I stopped going on there years ago. Taking things too seriously is almost always people viewing issues on a binary, black and white angle when things in life are always much more grey and nuanced than that, and South Park does an excellent job of portraying this. Either this point goes over people's heads, or they just haven't watched the show and decide to form their opinion on it.

[@member-berry-bonbons1124]

​@@NobodyC13 when I think of that, I think of my _Daria_ hyperfixation when I was 15. I took _Daria_ seriously to the point that I looked like an ass, and I only changed my ways when someone pointed this out in great detail. It hurt to realize that I was being an ass, but it also felt good to realize that I became self-aware, meaning I would change for the better.

[@semblanceofsense_8951]

0:14 When he said "We're gonna have a little chat" I legitimately had flashbacks to when my parents called my name and they're sitting at the end of an empty table.

[@TeejR18]

“Oh Blacklung you’re back hooray

[@shortstack4968]

I've always said that extremism kills ideologies. I didn't think that South Park was the reason why I thought that, but it makes a lot of sense since I grew up with this show and it made me aware of genuine problems and social commentary. Honestly the writers have been really thoughtful about how they portray issues.

[@hatinmyselfiscool2879]

That seems too be a very questionable view considering how many extremist ideologies are successfully taking hold of the world rn.

[@IILemonCatII]

The way blooms shares his opinion in such a respectful way is so nice, it’s really rare to see people sharing their opinion so nicely 😭

[@wesadams5128]

South Park has a message at the end of a lot of episodes. I don't know how people take the show in a bad way. It's funny and a lot of it is true. And .. it's a fricking cartoon, it's not real haters

[@spfanimator6182]

Matt Stone actually said it best, "we're just fighting the good fight. You may not be on our side, but...". This shows that they do care, but because the beliefs they do care about aren't neatly organized into one specific belief, I think that's where it is written off as "not caring", when it's really just about taking a passionate stance in the gray area in issues many see as black and white

[@codysnowden231]

I think that the only way that you would be able to think that South Park "doesn't care about anything" is by having never actually watched the show ever... They tackle all kinds of major issues in really creative ways, and always have.

[@FairyPrincessNia]

I’m a South Park fan who completely understands that this is not a show for everyone. If you find it offensive, I’m not gonna bother you, especially because Lord knows I have my own issues with the show’s politics. I think Matt and Trey have genuine comedic talent, but oftentimes they squander that talent on centrist talking points. But yeah, it’s not the end of the world if someone doesn’t like the same raunchy cartoon as me.

[@staringcorgi6475]

Thats kinda how the show works because the both dislike both parties according to matt and trey themselves

[@brandonhaygood5286]

Sometimes being center is the most rational place to be in certain topics.

[@cheezbiscuit4140]

​​@@brandonhaygood5286keyword certain topics

[@thechosenegg9340]

Yeah, also the two party system in the usa is only representing a small part of the political spectrum. Both parties lean right and are liberal (people misuse this word a lot), the main difference is that one is socially conservative and one socially progressive. Both are utter garbage in my opinion.

[@The_InfantMalePollockFrancis]

Centrism ftw

[@alexpowell9985]

I really like being able to see both sides of an issue so that I can see how a different side of an argument views it vs how I view it so that we can have a better discussion rather than just hurl insults at each other.

[@NewOrderOfAlexandria]

Almost every episode ends with Kyle or Stan resolving the drama and telling everyone what you should do. How anyone can watch this and not get that it's Matt and Trey's way of fixing problems in society is beyond me.

[@AluminumFusion22]

I don't think they're trying to *fix* per se, but it's Trey and Matt giving their personal opinions on a current event or topic with some absurdist comedy thrown in to entertain.

[@a.arnold1413]

Another point to back up the argument that they are mocking people pretending to care is episodes like "Butterballs," where Stan is pretending to care for attention.

[@tiablue9106]

also "whale whores", faking caring abt whaling to be on tv. and p much all the pc bro stuff, they're extremists and all of them (except pc principal) were faking caring to crush some puss

[@smcampanella04]

Thank you for saying what all of us actual South Park fans are thinking and how many people who get offended by South Park usually are missing the point that the show is trying to make by focusing usually on one small issue and missing the whole criticism

[@dzigayu4944]

I seriously cannot understand how someone can use Twitter for more than a few minutes a day, the sheer intake of stupidity and pettiness alone would make me go insane after 10 minutes.

[@xiaosleftnut2]

fanart

[@Donut117]

South Park actually did discuss climate change before the Man Bear Pig episode, and I'd argue their take on it was a lot more nuanced than "Lol it doesn't exist get rekt". S9E8 "Two Days Before the Day After Tomorrow" has Stan and Cartman drive a boat into a dam, which breaks and floods a whole town. They agree to keep it a secret so they don't get in trouble, and people blame the flood on global warming instead. The adults all wear winter parkas, thinking the world will be freezing cold, and nearly die of heat stroke because of it. The government later comes in, says "it wasn't global warming, it was crab people". Stan is finally like "hey, no, I broke the dam". Everyone else takes it as a metaphor that they all caused global warming, instead of a literal admission of guilt, and nobody learns their lesson. That's kind of exactly how it went in real life. In the United States, corporations lobbied congress to pass laws that were more favorable to their bottom line. Half the US politicians denied climate change even existed, and the other half shifted the blame to individual people rather than big industry. Corporations were happy because people ignored them and lined up to fight each other over individual politics instead. Nearly 20 years later, we're only just finally admitting we maybe fucked up, and we're *still* focused on individual contributions to climate change. So were they just flat out denying climate change? Idk, maybe, but they certainly had more to say than "It doesn't exist".

[@michikip45]

Honestly for me what I got out of South Park is it’s silly to care SO much it makes you practically break your own morals/sanity, like yeah some episodes feel more mocking an issue but I feel like most are saying to pay attention to things but going to extremes for an issue will just result in chaos. I could be totally wrong! But South Park taught me to approach and care for situations with a level head, and not get too emotional before being rational.

[@shrotcake]

Thank you for talking about this because I saw this tweet and it annoyed me. Ya I haven't agreed with all of South Park's takes but I love that they want to see both sides of things and HAVE admitted they were wrong before(climate change)...and this is coming from someone very left-leaning.

[@SquidwardsCheeks]

Same here, I'm moderately left leaning and they've had great takes on a lot of different cultural and political talking points. Matt and Trey have both been confirmed as being liberal, but they make fun of everything, everyone, all across the board because they see the stupidity in everything. I appreciated them being open and honest about their changing views of a variety of different topics they've joked about. And they're 100% for free speech, they were even willing to die for it. Awesome guys and great writers. As an aspiring screenwriter myself, I've dreamed of working at South Park Studios!

[@veganlion8662]

The original ManBearPig episode, I believe, is more about criticizing Al Gore than about denying climate change. Not sure if we should see the more recent ManBearPig stuff as a true apology, but there's definitely a message in there from the creators assuring us that they believe in climate change. However, I don't see them apologizing to Al Gore personally, and to me at least, it looks like Matt and Trey didn't change their position on how they feel about Al Gore and his political style. When I originally watched the old episode, not so long after its release, I was in my early twenties, and politically more or less radically left. For some reason, I never took the episode as horribly offensive to my beliefs on climate change. As a young European leftist, maybe I just saw an American Democrat politician like Al Gore as a part of the problem, a part of the system causing climate change.

[@ConcernedAlien]

​@@SquidwardsCheeksTrey and Matt were registered libertarians for a while, but so little actually does come out about their personal lives that it's hard to tell if they still are. One could argue that they've slowly drifted into being more left-libertarian over time, if for no other reason than an industry survival tactic, but only those who know Trey and Matt personally can know for sure.

[@symptomofsouls]

They were right the first time on climate change and caved to the mob, that's when the show started to go downhill. They broke their rule #1, NEVER apologize

[@thechosenegg9340]

​@@symptomofsoulswtf dude

[@ShrexyGuy]

South Park made it cool to be a sarcastic individual or overall pessimist to get your point across. It's a massive difference

[@byronrush9802]

It made me feel better like I wasn't alone

[@tkbirdyftw8419]

thats sad and therapy is here @@byronrush9802

[@fictionalmediabully9830]

"South Park" shaped me into a cynical pessimist, and I can't go back.

[@bassplayer2011ify]

@@fictionalmediabully9830100 percent

[@thundrbaze]

as a younger person southpark really got me through some dark stuff in my life with humor. The show helped me to learn to not take myself or situations so seriously,and to kind of embrace the absurdity of life. While I still deeply care for things passionately the show never once made me feel like I shouldn’t take anything seriously or that I shouldn’t care at all. I really feel like a great example for that is the scene where butters decides to not be goth anymore in the episode “Ungroundable.” I think South Park has way more heart in it than people think.

[@Squidwardman1]

The show was never meant for kids. If you were exposed to such “bad” media when you were younger, then that just means your parents were bad parents and they didn’t care about you. Like all twitter users, they have issues with their parents or families and lash out, since they never had that sense of stability.

[@ARCtheCartoonMaster]

I mean... I'm on Twitter, and my mum actually monitored what I watched. I even intentionally avoided seeing the fourth _Harry Potter_ movie when it came out (at least until I was invited to see it for my cousin's birthday, and even then I had to be talked into it) because it's rated M (i.e. recommended for 15 and older), and I was only 9 at the time.

[@Pugkin5405]

Or parents can decide their kid is mature enough to handle more mature content. Not every kid is a "kid"

[@houseofjax2806]

I think that the episode about voting actually does a good job describing the mentality of the people on twitter. They aren’t mad about people being apathetic, they’re mad because people aren’t supporting their side. These people would be just as if not more upset if the show always took the opposite of their side but they’re pretending to be upset because of some universal principle that being apathetic is bad

[@megasimp5137]

If they didnt care about these issues, the show wouldnt have commentary at all. The existence of "bad" political opinions that twitter users dont agree with implies that at least matt and trey cared enough about the issues to think about them and form an opinion.

[@DeathByBrainrot]

I feel like an episode that can easily debunk this point is “chef goes nanners”. The whole episode goes over how to important to change prejudice / racist depictions in our modern media. Along with how these depictions make these communities feel and how awful and degrading they are. While also showing how other races look at these depictions. Like how in the episode the towns people (besides chef) don’t understand why these depictions are awful. The whole point of this show is to satirize but also be insightful. Which is why I think SP is a “chaotic good” show. Another perfect example is “apologies to jesse Jackson”. Which as bloom stated before was very praised by NAACP.

[@SeanCosgrove1]

But voting when you're politically ignorant or apathetic isn't good. If you don't know anything, you shouldn't be encouraged to vote.

[@Rieky22]

Exactly also true we have a lot of politically ignorant Americans unfortunately either they’re politically ignorant or just straight up extremist.

[@CharlieKellyEsq]

@@Rieky22 exactly right. We should have a select group of people that are allowed to vote, and those that can't. hmm... how exactly would we do that?

[@blueblaze5160]

Agreed. I don't vote because it feels like I would either have to choose between someone who wears a blue tie and doesn't support the people, or someone who wears a red tie and doesn't support the people. I wish other idiots like myself would at least have the decency and self awareness to recognize that either the politicians they vote for do not actually support their beliefs, or would recognize that they shouldn't be voting due to their limited knowledge of the candidates on the ballot.

[@halkon4412]

I can't imagine how fucked our country would be if the politically apathetic didn't vote. They're the only ones anchoring us from the Dunning-Krueger mobs on either side.

[@jamesstuart3313]

​@@CharlieKellyEsqremove party affiliation on the voting ballot.

[@AssassinKillua15]

They've made so many episodes that are a clear "this is wrong" message. They've made so many episodes in supprt of gay marriage and feminism. An episode against conversion therapy. Multiple seasons making fun of Trump and having Mr Garrison break character to basically tell the audience to not vote for him and having the character freaking out that people actually want to vote for him no matter what crazy thing he says. A covid special that never once spout anti mask conspiracies and instead had the boys wearing masks with Stan freaking out about wanting things to go back to normal so he can enjoy the small things like making a Build A Bear in the store. An episode going hard against scientology. An episode portraying tourettes in a more in a respectful way showing the different ways tourettes presents itself. An episode with ms Garrison giving an egg to 2 boy students out of jealousy and trying to prove 2 boys cant take of a child only to be proven wrong when Stan and Kyle have an untouched egg while Cartman and Heidi have a broken egg. The even made an episode as an apology for saying climate change wasn't really real. Idk how anyone can say South Park never says anything or takes any stands. What are they even talking about.

[@caesarsalad493]

I’m personally OBSESSED with SP for many reasons, but I understand it’s definitely not for everyone, seeing as I didn’t like it at first bc I’d only seen bits and pieces taken way out of context. But when I actually sat down to watch it, it pretty quickly became one of my favorite shows. I’m autistic and it’s one of my current hyper fixations but I don’t discuss it around ppl I don’t really know, specifically because there are some people who only see it for the severe vulgarity, and many consider it to be xeno/homo/transphobic (it’s not it’s literally just dark humor but a lot of ppl can’t seem to comprehend dark humor) it certainly doesn’t make me “care less” about things, in fact if anything, SP makes a lot of worldly/political references in ways that are funny yet sadly true. Matt an Trey are very down to earth fellers who put there blood, sweat and tears into the show even to this day. It’s a beautiful work of art that’s somehow simple and complex at the same time. Not everyone understands the complexity, so they take the vulgar humor at face value.

[@Cpt_Natalia]

Thank you for making this video. I’m so glad you’re talk about these kind of tweets, I’m tired of hearing these kinds of tweets from people who, ironically, don’t care enough to do their own research about the show. The show teaches doesn’t teach us not to care, but it teaches us to not become an crazy extremist from any side of the political spectrum.

[@demonking-zm3rs]

...I mean no it definitely did instill a "We dont care/ take sides narrative" which is kinda untrue. It taught a generation of kids that believing in any issue is dumb. Impartiality and actually believing your apolitical is nonsense so when a actual issue comes around your desensitized to the idea of there being real ramifications Anti Smoking episode exist less as a critque and more an excuse to make fun of a celebrity which should be fine but it still promotes big tobacco as in the right. People take South Park Satire as infallible but they themselves have admitted to punching down and having some poor takes But the shows reverence paints it less like two guys just writing shit they find funny and more as a way you should approach life I'm sorry but two straight white guys deciding to reappropiate the word F@g and Ni$$a because they feel the older context is outdated and shouldn't carry the same context isn't a discussion They should have even as Satire But there praised because some people feel it was nuanced Personally them just doing whatever and have good or bad takes are fine but it's similar to Rick and Morty in how it changed the landscape For Rick and Morty it was the fake nihilism and the edgy nothing matters narrative along with popularizing gross out and shock humor in adult cartoons And for South Park it's became an avenue for apathetic humor where despite 30 years of prior research in Global Warming before the Man BeaR Pig episode They made it a recurring theme that years later finally had them acknowledge yes its a real issue. If people took it as it was just two guys talking about things that grind there gears(like most episodes feel like the writer got a new Japanese toilet and just wanted to talk about it) then yeah no issue but people take South Park seriously

[@tananatana4011]

These braindead South Park "critiques" are the equivalent of people saying "Batman should donate to charity instead of beating mentally ill"

[@littlemoth4956]

Lol I mean the latter is kinda true ngl

[@PyroInTheFace21]

Donating to charity wouldn't have stopped the joker the penguin Mr freeze raj al ghul poison ivy ect...

[@story_marc]

​@@littlemoth4956Did you know that Bruce Wayne is actually one of the biggest supporters of reformation? Aside from donation and putting money into Gotham, he makes a point of trying to help the same people he put in prison through rehabilitation and offers jobs at Wayne Corp to any coming out to avoid falling back in. Just one of those many details people don't know because they only know the shallow surface of Batman.

[@tananatana4011]

@@PyroInTheFace21 Dude Bruce already donates to charities a hell of a lot, plus majority of Batman's villains aren't even like super outcasts, many of them are rich assholes. I am sure charity won't stop the Joker or the Riddler or Scarecrow etc.

[@actualgoblin]

I disagree because people hating on batman like hes a real person is peak comedy

[@RisingSunReviews]

It seems weird that a show that offends so many people can be seen as a show that promotes not caring. The reason it offends is because it cares enough to take controversial stances and make what some might consider "bad takes." That's why I respect it so much. Sometimes I find it offensive or just gross and I'll pass on those episodes. But that's okay. I'm glad Southpark exists to hold up a mirror to the absurd world we live in.

[@tess4940]

This video had me come to the conclusion that South Park definitely “made it cool to not care,” albeit not intentionally. A person’s media literacy, or a group of people’s respective media literacies genuinely aren’t relevant when it comes to discussing the harm the show has done because despite Trey and Matt’s intentions, this was still the outcome and conclusion that many came to.

[@Wulabaloo]

It’s almost like South Park’s an inside joke only understood by the crew, but not everyone else considering a lot of people get it wrong, including me

[@JetstreamTheSexSam]

People being retarded isn't the fault of the show

[@ellicel]

I didn't grow up watching the show, so I've only seen it as an adult. However, I do appreciate their both sides look as sometimes a good way to hear how "the other side" views an issue or even how "my side" can come across negatively even when being technically right. Their work might be a very innocuous way to hear voices outside your echo chamber.

[@SeanA099]

The “apology” episode for Al Gore did acknowledge that Man Bear Pig was real, but still portrayed him as entitled and attention seeking. So they stuck with the same characterization of Al Gore

[@ramenaddict1676]

the whole point of south park is that you dont take even the show itself seriously

[@hatinmyselfiscool2879]

That is not a good argument to make about any show. It's like saying "call of duty is just a game, it doesn't have politics and the ones it does shouldn't be taken seriously." Yeah but that's not how media works tho does it? It always has an impact.

[@Zbballs]

why is twitter always angry

[@TheThrilledOOOF]

dude, It's twitter.

[@Official_RetroMania]

Dude is social media... It's "normal"

[@grap6326]

Uhm actually it's called "X" now 🤓🤓@@TheThrilledOOOF

[@InquisitorThomas]

Social Media is a business designed to drive engagement, and making people angry has proven to be an excellent way to drive engagement.

[@Cpt_Natalia]

Tumblr refugees, that’s what happened.

[@deepspacenation76]

South Park is a reflection of what our society is. Some people can’t accept that. Lmao

[@emic621]

🎯

[@member-berry-bonbons1124]

Hard to accept because it's true

[@skrumpf1412]

I always find it funny that the people who say South Park fans are cynical haters are the ones that never shut up about how bad everything is

[@Zbballs]

I really don't think we should pay attention to twitter, honestly like honestly dont listen to twitter

[@shaneseem-sin3856]

Unfortunately, I hear this take all the time in the spaces I'm in. I feel like if these people watched the show, they're probably watching it in bad faith.

[@iamhereblossom1588]

I feel that it doesn't make it cool to not care. The kids not caring are childish (literally) idiots so obviously they're not role models. It's just meant to dissect the multiple stances on an issue and allow you to make a decision on your own.

[@hatinmyselfiscool2879]

... i'm sorry but didn't this exact channel make a video of how south park, through it's "childish main characters" brought about anti ginger hatred- Like, this is akin too an actor saying shit like "i'm not a role model". You don't get to choose.

[@masamune2984]

The most shocking and disappointing thing about this story is that you decide to ease back into that absolute cesspool that was Twitter.

[@doggishcat8309]

I usually find that it's not people caring about things that South Park is making fun of; it's the *way* they care.

[@juggawheels420]

al gore was actually the only one mat and trey said they regretted maki fun of him

[@spencerchartier2677]

The thing I really appreciate about South Park is that it’s not so blatantly one-sided like The Simpsons or family Like Kyle says repeatedly in the show it’s time to take some personal responsibility people make their own decisions if they don’t want to watch the show Fine if you like the show fine The real message of South Park like you said ultimately it’s up to individuals To make their own decisions and be active participants in their own lives

[@daddy-odizzy5180]

4:38 I love the implication that Mr. Garrison's Fancy New V@gina was somehow an episode with a bad take when it has been aging like wine every year. 🤣

[@Macca-95]

100% a lot of the older south park episodes that were once absurdity are now looking prophetic.

[@somethingbeyondwords9553]

They care about their beliefs and the work they do, but what they don't care about is if some people hate them for it. That is why I love them.

[@americanpatriot70476]

When he said “one of the most notorious episodes” my mind joked “man bear pig” and I nearly pissed myself laughing when I was right😂

[@fauxparadox]

South Park is really easy to misunderstand if you don't watch it, and it's definitely not the easiest show to watch...

[@HollyJokerst]

Full disclosure, i am someone who loved the show when i was younger and as an adult have become critical of it. I don't know if it's accurate that south park has led to a generation of people who think it's uncool to care. I think it is more true that the show has had a lot of bad and damaging takes and ways of presenting issues that have influenced a significant number of people in a bad way. But i wanted to point out that there is a big difference between "South park promotes the idea that caring isn't cool" and "south park has produced a generation of people who think caring isn't cool." One is about intent and the other is about effect. Most of the criticisms seem to center on the effect of the show and arent really speaking on the intent, which is what this video seems to be focusing on. And i think like, when you have an audience this wide and want to portray issues that affect people's lives, I think there is a certain level of responsibility over what the public as a whole takes away from the show. I especially suspect having eric cartman as a main character has been pretty damaging - a character who is casually racist and anti semitic and while he is portrayed as an asshole and receives criticism, he's ultimately still a loveable and funny character who for the most part remains friends with the other main kids. The way his bigotry is just treated as a running joke and not taken seriously is definitely a recipe for producing people who are apathetic about opposing bigotry, if not actively producing people with these views.

[@Zarkator]

If you are under the impression that south park is making fun of you for caring, theyre just making fun of you for being stupid. You can care as much as you want as long as you don't participate in the spew literally the worst strings of words ever produced on twitter every 3 to 4 days challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)

[@NEVERKNOWSBE5T]

I actually binged watched your videos while bed ridden with covid about a year ago (I have a TV above my bed with a firestick) and wanted to watch South Park but realizing it wasn't available on UK netflix I tried to find some episodes on YT and found your channel about a year ago and watched all your videos instead which kept me entertained while I was dying. I forgot your channel existed until this showed up in my recommended. I just wanted to share that, also great analysis I really enjoyed this

[@theunholybanana4745]

You know that every episode of South park is available online for free?

[@NEVERKNOWSBE5T]

Yeah, I actually have a steam link hooked up to my bedroom TV, which I use to stream my PC from the living room to the bedroom I usually download everything to my PC and either watch it on the living room TV or stream it to the bedroom over WiFi. At the time, I was so weak, though I couldn't be bothered to even get up and go on my PC so I opted to just watch whatever was on KZbin and my gfs Netflix

[@ryanrem5123]

Thanks to Morgan and Morgan my budget of getting into car accidents has quintupled, I try to at least get into 5 once a month now. Thanks Morgan & Morgan!!

[@jonnybarnard8578]

People who get their beliefs from a TV show aren't ones we need to worry about anyway.

[@AlIRounder]

Gets notification :) hears the word “Twitter” :(

[@ThatDumbMoth]

I really do hope we can stop children from watching South Park. It's either that or we no longer have South Park, sadly.

[@ghjjiyeqsg1052]

I found it funny that the whole ‘Al Gore/Manbearpig’ thing was actually manifested in South Park: TSoT, as you first find Al Gore behind a bush, where he says ‘pssst, hey, over here’ and you can find yourself in a quest line where you run a few errands for him, then fight him in a storage container against him and a few of his agents, and then encounter Al Gore/Manbearpig as a mini-boss, and you even see him appear in the background when New Kid walks home, before cutting to credits.

[@ethribin4188]

Douche and Turd, very obviously, isnt to make fun of people caring which of 2 bad options to choose. Its about the dispair of only having 2 bad options to choose from.

[@jhomastefferson3693]

South park is a shining light in the darkness that is american culture and media/literature. They are the best satirists since Twain, without a doubt And "Rick and Morty" is the show that makes caring cringe. Not that it is bad, either. It's a fine show, but if anyone wants to blame an adult cartoon on making it cool "not to care", it really should be rick and morty.

[@ZumbieGuy]

Imagine if Matt and Trey saw these tweets, they’d probably make an episode from the inspiration 😂😂

[@AshtonRogers-se1zj]

If anything,I think that South Park greatly encourages looking at any given situation from more than just the angle of one's individual perspective.

[@Mrsierramist1]

Love that you made this. Nice to have all of these great points in one location.