Southern Farmers Are Selling Their Equipment!

February 2024 Mason Auction in Campbellton, Fl.

[@johnkaschmitter6258]

Control the food...control the people

[@frankmorris4790]

Just the urban ones. They don't know yet...

[@JockBlock-vd2ep]

This is actually positive where i'm from. There are only large farms left and they are hemorrhaging bank money because they wanted to win the biggest farmer race. I have a small 108 year old farm free and clear with no debt and my arrogant super farmer neighbors are going to have to start selling off land. When you farm you play the long game ,not the "Ive got the biggest and best game." you cant borrow yourself rich.

[@PatrickShivers]

Preach!

[@nikkireigns]

👏🏻 👏🏻

[@TheJagjr4450]

BINGO... well that is unless you are the bank and your farm inc the borrower.

[@ernestclary6035]

Selling to buy bigger better equipment

[@PatrickShivers]

@@ernestclary6035 nope. The first 2 rows was a farmer selling out.

[@luisnunes7933]

Hello, Patrick! The most important human activity is sadly the least respected...

[@greggergen9104]

Other than actors and professional athletes, you can't show me a more respected occupation than farmers. I can find you 20 farmer your tube channels that respect farmers... Try to find me the same for plumbers, businessmen, teachers, scientist, doctors, nurses. I have yet to go to a farmer web site that does not respect farmers.

[@luisnunes7933]

@@greggergen9104 So, you did not understand the core of my statement! Urban societies tend do not realize the hardships or value the primordial importance of farming.

[@greggergen9104]

@@luisnunes7933 I understand the statement: "Urban societies tend do not realize the hardships or value the primordial importance of farming:" but I just disagree with it. I was the Corporate Research Director for Farm Journal magazine. Without fail, when I introduced myself as such people, would say how tough it is for farmers and how hard they work, etc, etc. However, I have had seveal other professions and nobody has ever said how difficult market researchers have it, or demographers, or designers; etc. I really think farmers get all the respect they deservce. I see facebook posts all the time that say things like: "If you ate today thank a farmer." I have never seen, "If you drove your car today, thank an auto worker." Reply

[@luisnunes7933]

@@greggergen9104Despite being european, I also know something about the american reality. So, a plain fact can not be contradicted by any particular opinion...

[@salt-team-six5883]

Sad the direction our country is going

[@PatrickShivers]

The math doesn’t add up on commodity prices. All things that make the prices rise have occurred in last few months but prices are still inexplicably falling

[@salt-team-six5883]

@@PatrickShivers We are heading down a road that is set for failure. Several world organization are running our country and they don't have our best interest

[@bfields1448]

Climate communism change NWDisorder. WEF natzis.

[@davehughesfarm7983]

You arent kidding..These big dogs gonna be hurting..@@PatrickShivers

[@davehughesfarm7983]

I call them neo-bolsheviks@@salt-team-six5883

[@garybuth801]

MOST PEOPLE KNEW IT WAS JUST A MATTER OF TIME/COST OF FARMING IS PROHIBITIVE/MACHINERY IS OVER PRICED/FUEL IS OUT OF CONTROL/INSURANCE/SEED/FERTLIZER IS PRICED AT INSANE PRICES/AND OF COURSE THE GOVERNMENT ONLY MAKES IT WORSE

[@jvin248]

The only 'fix' that farmers have under our own control is modifying methods to reduce/eliminate inputs. One clever fellow is buying older (1980s) corn seed that is well off patent and keeping his own seed to adapt it to his growing conditions. He has zero fertilizer and chemical inputs using cover crops for weed control. Fewer fuel passes over fields too. He watches cash profits not crop yield. He's doing something right as he sells direct to food and snack factories for higher prices than commodity corn/beans. There has never been an' easy button' for farming.

[@bfields1448]

On purpose. Climate communism change. NWDISORDER

[@bfields1448]

Climate communism change NWDisorder. WEF snakes.

[@davehughesfarm7983]

Hear Hear!

[@chefgiovanni]

Plus Deere requires software downloads to keep the tractors working correctly, plus Deere is moving a lot of it's mfg. to Mexico.@@jvin248

[@duanestrickler6814]

i feel for all of you going through this difficulty. God be with you.

[@PatrickShivers]

Thanks Duane

[@outdoorswithsteveandlisa2138]

Keep in mind we all will feel their pain in a few years. It will look like high food prices, maybe even as described in an old book I read. A loaf of bread for a days wages.

[@chrisfrench8511]

Thanks Patrick. Great video again.

[@jeffmyers4680]

Thanks for your channel. You are interesting and I always learn something! Good luck this year !

[@PatrickShivers]

Thanks for watching and commenting Jeff. The purpose of my videos is to educate. Glad to hear the mission is being successful

[@Dachvidful]

Blessings to you kind sir. It breaks my heart to see so many good people hurting. Heck all they want to do is make a living and put some food on peoples tables. Thanks for this informative film

[@JDP-801]

thank you for the good hard work, be happy👍💪

[@PatrickShivers]

Thank you for watching & commenting!

[@chesterhouse4073]

Really interesting thank you, greetings from the UK

[@PatrickShivers]

Thanks for watching Chester!

[@leopardone2386]

Subbed, grew up on a small farm in the Southeast. Although I work a trade now I constantly think about my region's farmers. Your content hits home and is very informative. Take care man and warm regards.

[@PatrickShivers]

Thanks for watching and subscribing!

[@LarsonFamilyFarm-LLC]

enjoyed it... great commentary.

[@PatrickShivers]

Thanks for watching & commenting. I have 2 more similar auction videos posted earlier this month.

[@interman7715]

You want to try farming in Australia mate ,$9.00 per gallon fuel ,machinery twice the price ,young guys won't take on the family farm because of the debt. It's bad here, depression rates and suicide are sky rocketing .

[@PatrickShivers]

Word in the States is that Australian government has gone off the liberal deep end. Less government interference = better economy. Doesn’t matter what continent you’re on.

[@interman7715]

@@PatrickShivers We have a Labor ie lefty government here ,shutting down power stations putting electricity prices skywards, Gates was out here last year telling Government to shut down sheep and cattle farms !!! Our country is a mess record inflation and many homeless people. I follow the U.S and feel for you people with what's going on over there, stay strong brother you might have a change of Government soon and that will benefit us Aussies as well .

[@markbouldin6513]

Geesh, since we're going down the road of lamentations let us not forget our farming brother's in Ukraine whom haft to be weary of the ever misplaced Land Mine.... I'm not joking and guess it's true as I saw an article and image's of a blown up combine....

[@PatrickShivers]

@@markbouldin6513 I saw a video of a Ukrainian farmer with his farm made land mine clearer clearing his fields. I’m trying to get rid of dirt clods he’s getting rid of land mines. The Lord blesses us everyday in more ways than we can count. No matter the situation, it could always be worse.

[@matiasishere1487]

@@PatrickShiversget rid of dirt?? That’s not farming bro.

[@gregrhodes8451]

Great video Patrick

[@PatrickShivers]

Thanks Greg!

[@farmerwright]

Great vid, over here in England, guys are starting to go back to older tractors because the cost and maintenance is so expensive on the high end machines. One big contractor i read about has swapped all his R series tractors in and bought 20 and 30 series instead. Good tractors from the 80/90's are going for 30-40k as everyone wants them....interesting times!

[@PatrickShivers]

The prices on older tractors and pickup trucks in the US have both risen sharply the last few years. New trucks and tractors are just to expensive.

[@carl2755]

Every tractor is capable of doing tillage work. It is simply a matter of having a properly sized implement.

[@JR-mr5dm]

Great video Sir! Thanks for providing the price the equipment sold for, that’s definitely something we’re all curious about but isn’t always shared lol

[@PatrickShivers]

Thanks for watching. I actually have 3 years of late January early February auction videos with prices, folks just decided to watch this year. (or KZbin decided to promote)

[@michaelmactavish4445]

we paid $50,000 for a new 2024 145hp case ih 145 with loader,bucket and forks and snowblower package and we also paid $34,050.00 for a new kubota L4760 a 49.5hp with loader and bucket,forks,snowblower package wich was pretty good deal

[@PatrickShivers]

@@michaelmactavish4445 you mean $150,000. You ain’t bought a new 145 for $50,000.

[@michaelmactavish4445]

thats what my kubota dealer sold us the case traded the old 1998 deere loader tractor wich we got good trade on it plus the dealer took $500 off the bucket and forks and $1,000 off the big blower wich was pretty good deal @@PatrickShivers

[@ryannichols8470]

I just happened upon your video! Awesome job. I'll definitely be watching you from now on!

[@PatrickShivers]

Thanks Ryan!

[@markkraakman1427]

I love those 7000 series john deere's ❤ own two 7810's with 14,500 engine hours . Still running like a deere

[@PatrickShivers]

They were great tractors

[@markkraakman1427]

@@PatrickShivers kzbin.info/www/bejne/hnbYhWaIe9OfpLssi=OjFk8ZPLigiiQy_m

[@jasonbeecher509]

That 7810 2wheele drive would be awesome to bale with. That 4960 that has flat tires could be a gem

[@PatrickShivers]

I’d be willing to bet that 4960 needs a transmission

[@jasonbeecher509]

@@PatrickShivers probably

[@markbouldin6513]

Reminds me of an older farmer year's ago when the lotto come out.... Someone asked "Grady" what would you do if you won a million dollars? Grady replied, awwa i guess we'd just keep farming until it was all gone...

[@trevorn9381]

With new JD combines selling for $500K without the heads that wouldn't take long. I remember back when the old man paid about $30K for a new Deere 4400 combine back in 1978 we thought that was a lot of money.

[@PatrickShivers]

USED John Deere X9 combines sell for $800,000+. New are over a million dollars. JD is selling tractors for $500,000 now. Crazy part is people are buying them.

[@trevorn9381]

@kShivers I quess I am a bit out of date. We quit farming in 2020 and back then new S670 was about $500k without the heads but that was before Bidenflation kicked in. The last combine we had was a really nice used 2000 model Deere 9450 we bought from Mayer equipment. They had hauled that thing from Ohio to NC to sell it because almost nobody in the corn belt wanted a machine that small anymore.

[@PatrickShivers]

@@trevorn9381 I think there is a large market for basic reliable 200 hp tractors (instead of the ultra high tech luxury tractors) and smaller combines instead of the behemoths they manufacture now.

[@markbouldin6513]

@@trevorn9381 For sure and I was speaking in late seventies frog skins.... Interesting the wise old farmer/trk driver Grady always seemed to have the Wall Street Journal on his person back then.... Some one asked him why he read the WSJ and he replied "because they are 2 or 3 day's ahead of all the paper's around here". Idk, as I can barely count to three.....

[@jayjones6904]

Really sad state of affairs God bless these families lord help them

[@ladyryan902]

Just ran across this and it's sad. Farmers are loosing everything and big business is laughing and whooping knowing there will be no fresh food. Lab grown 😢..there must be things farmers can do to change things up good video info. Thx

[@CountryHashishin]

This is when the country need to stand together and say government! You work for us take care of our needs or find worker's elsewhere! Recon it's time we start taking care of ourselves and family and say screw yall!! What does the government supply self-sufficient people with that they need? Not a dam thing! It's time to become the nation we once were! It's time to question authority! It's time to protect you and yours! It's time to not take anymore BS!! Vote yourself! Be your own president! Take control of your lives! No more wage slave way of life! Only you can make it better for yourself!

[@firstnamelastname-os5ro]

AH SHADDAP!

[@errolsigue4419]

You right about that

[@jackweeks8099]

That Mack seat in the old International doubles the value of it! 😆

[@PatrickShivers]

I’m just glad I didn’t make any money this year or I would have bought that old beast.

[@jackweeks8099]

@@PatrickShivers did it sale? I thought that strip till and planter setup was a good deal.

[@PatrickShivers]

@@jackweeks8099 the big IH wasn’t for sale. It was over to the side in the bushes. The strip till planter rig was an extreme bargain

[@johnnyholland8765]

I drove one or those 4166 tractors. For it's weight they really pull. Local farmer had one he built ponds with.@@PatrickShivers

[@PatrickShivers]

@@johnnyholland8765 did it take a huge area to turn around?

[@criagcundiff2469]

Tell us how many hours are on all these tractors when you get in and start them.

[@kurtkohl151]

Thank you for excellent review and what the prices sold for.

[@PatrickShivers]

Thanks for watching. I am filming another farm auction tomorrow. Look for the video early next week

[@stevenarnold1960]

beautiful 4960

[@stevesoutdoorworld4340]

This country needs to grow more grass and beef ! Beef is what's for dinner!

[@v.m.8472]

I am so very sorry.

[@MarshallLanier-oi1mk]

That trashed out 4960 is a perfect illustration of what happens when a farmer hires a tractor "driver" instead of an "operator". Whoever drove that tractor obviously wasn't the owner and didn't shiv-a-git about the machine in the first place.

[@PatrickShivers]

Preaching to the choir hoss!

[@MarshallLanier-oi1mk]

@@PatrickShivers Ideally, I would rather have a used tractor from Indiana, Illinois, Iowa, Nebraska.....anywhere in the upper Midwest. A. Those guys usually store them inside enclosed buildings instead of open shelters like we do. B. 9 times out of 10, the guy driving the tractor or combine or sprayer, is the guy who owns it.

[@PatrickShivers]

@@MarshallLanier-oi1mk That’s why my 8530 came from Kansas

[@JJE2010MO]

This is the time to buy!

[@PatrickShivers]

Yep

[@57fitter]

Patrick, those were rolling FENDERS.

[@PatrickShivers]

I know the “spiked wheels” are called fenders, but the implement itself is called a rolling cultivator where I’m from. Never heard it called anything different

[@57fitter]

@@PatrickShivers No kidding... In Indiana we would call that a row cultivator, as opposed to a field cultivator, and it had rolling fenders instead of the old flat fenders.

[@thebedtimecomposer831]

The 4960 in the back has been on the lot for over two years now. I’ve only seen it moved once.

[@PatrickShivers]

Saw my uncle at the sale, he said it was sitting in same spot last year. They are mowing around it. 🤦🏼‍♂️

[@jvin248]

Price will drop enough or someone needs a tractor project when other tractors are hard to come by again.

[@PatrickShivers]

@@jvin248 In it’s current condition the cost of repairing the tractor is higher than the value of the tractor when repaired. Looked like a blown head gasket and a shot transmission

[@markkraakman1427]

I sure love them 7000 series john deeres❤ own two 7810 's both with 14,500 engine hours on them . Still running like a deere

[@winnreid]

We stole the running gear off of our gravity wagons to make farm trailers when we went to tandom trucks and semis

[@FarleyMan151]

Farmers and ranchers are the hardest working Americans and the most important (truckers too) without them, we will starve to death, but that's the plan, isn't it. eat ze bugz.

[@PatrickShivers]

Amen on the truckers. It doesn’t matter how much we grow if we can’t get it hauled. They are the backbone of America.

[@FailureatRetirement]

In my part of California we have a lot of tree nuts and rice. The rice guys in my area have done very well the last few years because most areas didn’t have any water but they did. Last summer everyone had water and I just found out that the prices have dropped in half. Looks like a problem coming to me. Tree nuts have been over planted for a couple of years. Walnuts are returning growers less than a third of the cost to grow them. Almonds and pistachios aren’t very good either. I went to a small farm show last week that is mostly for tree nut equipment, hardly anyone was there. Several vendors weren’t there either. I also found out that several of the local specialty equipment manufacturers are laying off employees left and right. Change seems to be happening. Interesting video

[@PatrickShivers]

In Georgia we more than doubled our pecan acreage during a short period 7-12 years ago. Those trees are now producing and the commercial price of pecans has fell out…..but the consumer price has risen 🤔

[@FailureatRetirement]

That’s the exact same problem we have with walnuts. @@PatrickShivers

[@MSmith-us4lg]

​@PatrickShivers I'm in NorCal. Hay prices have dropped to a third and the only thing bringing decent price is beef. Hay farmers being punched in the gut.

[@MSmith-us4lg]

Price on sheep and goats is down, and I'm thinking about looking for new markets for farm products.

[@FailureatRetirement]

I’m in NorCal as well. 2023 was the first time I lost money on hay in 15 years. I sell mostly for horses and it’s like nobody has the money to buy it. Doesn’t help when everyone else is willing to sell it cheap. @@MSmith-us4lg

[@danherrmann8755]

Thanks for video. Hard times just keep on happening. People will plant. Again. That is all they can do. Running a business is not possible any more. It a gamble. Later.

[@garygrose6351]

Most farmers are by far very industrial! But there is a limit to how much you can comprehend losing!

[@Captain8159]

Print unsecured money Use ESG agenda to bankrupt farmers Buy cheap land Dominate

[@trevorn9381]

I have seen it happen before...back in the 80s. Our neighbor's had a low hour IH 1086 in showroom condition and that thing didn't bring $10k at their bankruptcy sale back in '85.

[@PatrickShivers]

🤦🏼‍♂️

[@markbouldin6513]

I bet that tractor was big, heavy and redder than red.... Sorry to hear....

[@markbouldin6513]

My dad had a 656 IH with hydrostatic drive in the mid seventies.... My dad and my uncle 7 miles over the road farmed together and as a child I enjoyed driving it back and forth.... Not sure if the hydrostatic drive was a plus or a minus.....

[@PatrickShivers]

@@markbouldin6513 I didn’t know there was hydrostatic drives back then. I’d love to own that old beast.

[@trevorn9381]

@uldin6513 We later found out the auctioneer (who was also a farmer) was the buyer. Apparently he had someone in the crowd bidding on stuff he wanted. Didn't sit right with a lot of local folks. My old man had a 1978 4440 quad that was like new. He had to put it up for sale after the 1983 drought because we only made 15bu/acre on corn and he didn't have any money to pay the bank. He advertised that thing for what he owed in every newspaper for miles around and got no calls. Nobody else had any money either. Finally someone called.... It was a rich hobby farmer. Guy showed up in a big Cadillac in a business suit. He climbed up in the cab and fired it up and drove it around the barnyard and said "I'll take it". Paid the old man the asking price. Dad later found out the guy could have bought a brand new 4450 powershift off the lot for about the same money because the dealers were so desperate to move them they had slashed the prices. One night someone stole a new 2950 off the local dealer's lot. Dad told the dealer he was sorry to hear that someone stole one of his tractors. The dealer said: "I'm not, I hope that sonofabitch will come back and steal a few more because a tractor stole is a tractor sold...and we haven't been selling any!" The 80s were bad!!! People who weren't farming back then have no idea just how bad.

[@edniemyjski3303]

if you think them were cheep,what till next winter their will be a lot of bankers crying when the repo all that new paint that got sold the last few years,its been big drought up here in the midwest and corn the other day was under 4 bucks and beans under 11.00 are corn yields were 120 to 140 bu this last harvest down 40% from average and ground moister really dry going into this spring.

[@songweaver6076]

We need More small farmers not more war!!!

[@WJV9]

Tell that to Russia, Hama, Houthi's. Let me know what their reply is.

[@songweaver6076]

@@WJV9 Naw i'll tell that to the Kids that need Jobs>>> or the 800+ military bases we use to try and force our "freedom" upon brown skinned folk.

[@gregwarner3753]

Like any business dependent on the weather and outside markets farmers can expect one year out of five to be great, three years to be close to average and one year to be disasters. The trick is to have enough of the great year profits available to cover the losses of the bad year.

[@PatrickShivers]

That’s it exactly. Every 20-30 years you get consecutive disaster years. I hope 2024 isn’t that year.

[@fergieferguson2457]

Well I’m not a farmer I’m a hunter and bee keeper so I use equipment for food plots for both for deer turkey and honey bees.i wanted to get into no till!I do have 807 acres roughly 60 acres in food plots I do have most all of equipment I need.except no till or or continental till I live in south east I’ve been to many auctions and me personally I haven’t seen anything go cheap!looking at no till equipment I can pull with 60hp or less new or used it’s high even for late 60’s model stuff that’s wore out that I may or may not get parts for!just left one yesterday and was bidding on 50 yo Taylor 6’ no till and it went for 3G!bidding on a unfortunately John Deere B GRAIN DRILL, PULL TYPE, 8' and no sale at 4500$ 40 yo! I’ve been to Mississippi Alabama Tennessee Louisiana and all been high!big stuff I don’t need going high.maybe I need to make the drive to Florida see if I can find something.i know it’s just for food plots for deer and honey bees but sure need one or would like to try.if anyone knows we’re one is a decent price let me know…

[@PatrickShivers]

Small equipment is always high b/c it’s bought by hobbyists and hunters. Bigger equipment fluctuates with commodity prices.

[@markkallstrom5672]

Here in Eastern Washington , prices for equipment is still surprising High

[@PatrickShivers]

What is y’alls primary crops out there?

[@Truckin-Farmin-Gamin]

We have a johndeere 7810 4wd that can pull a big 630 disk just fine

[@PatrickShivers]

A 7820 can, it’d be a stretch for these 7410s though.

[@michaellalanae7228]

Food is no longer needed , humans are in Thier way out . They had a good go and won't be missed .

[@derek7837]

Our 7800 and 7810's mfwd pull our 6 row kmc ripper bedders and kmc strip tills fine back when we were 6 row. Now 12 row but they still pull 24' disk etc just fine and we pull 5 bottom flip plows with them even now and we pull a 3 pt hitch john deere 6 row shredder on 38" rows with them mowing cotton stalks. The 7810's are 150 or 155 hp, I can't remember which one. The 7810's are like the 4440, 4450, 4455. They can do it all. The 7810 and 7800 2wd pull 6 row twin row monoseom planters for peanuts.

[@johndeere7245]

A 7800 or 7810 aint gonna be happy with 6 row rippers around my area without cheating them. I know folks tried, but an 8200-8300 was a better match. 4 row and they will cruise all day even with winged feet on the shanks. I say that as someone who has ripper spidered 4 row with a 399 Massey Ferguson.

[@derek7837]

@@johndeere7245 here in south georgia we have sandy loam and some fields are red clay also known as 24 hrs fields. When it rains a tenth it's too slick and by 24 hrs it's harder than concrete

[@PatrickShivers]

The 7800 tractors are great tractors. They have almost 30% more horsepower than the 7410s in this video. My brother-in-law runs a 7830 on some light tillage. I think the 7800s are kind of a in between size tractor. Bigger than medium size but not quite a big tractor. Very versatile. Pulling 6 row planters, mowing stalks, spreading land plaster & fertilizer are all great applications for 7000 series. When it’s time for subsoiling and pulling 30’+ disc then it’s time for a 8000

[@derek7837]

@@PatrickShivers oh no doubt, when we are pulling our 32's or 38' disks we use the 8R series and pulling 12 row kmc strip tills on 38" rows, or unverferth 13 shank subsoilers etc then the 8 series comes out. We even break out the old 8760 4wd sometimes just to run and keep it operational.

[@PatrickShivers]

@@derek7837 My dad has a 8970. I bedded and strip tilled thousands of acres with that ole girl. She also pulls a 40’ sunflower…..but I was glad to move on to 8530.

[@jamespetty9545]

I saw a 7500 in the background. I always wanted a brand new one but the farm is gone and I live in town.

[@user-rf3cn2ou3x]

Field to customer farming is the most profitable for farmers, but the special interest groups, and the government makes it nearly impossible. We support three families on our farm to table beef operation, and the government really wants us to quit, but we use every loophole in the book.

[@PatrickShivers]

I have a farm store and I also sell beef direct to end consumers. Definitely got to have loop holes.

[@darolfitch8917]

IF farmers are in trouble, than aren't we all in trouble.. I mean they feed us.

[@henrymcgowan551]

That's a shame to treat that 4960 that way , what a great tractor and it's been abused so much.

[@PatrickShivers]

Preach!

[@Johndeererobert]

That 4960 been worked hard and put away wet !!!

[@jeffdymarczyk4413]

No overseas buyers,South America new market!!!

[@richaust8718]

Heard most of the Dewitt Auctions here in the mid south are not seeing reserves being met.

[@PatrickShivers]

Crazy cheap deals being had (at the expense of your neighbors) if you got the cash.

[@MrSummerbreeze01]

Not a farmer, but I watch commodity prices. The worst is yet to come for Soybean and Corn prices. Brazil and China together are going to drive Soybeans to $5/bu and Corn to $3.

[@graderboy41]

In midwest farmers are buying equipment like there's no tomorrow. And still complaining they hav no money

[@1214101]

I have never heard a farmer say they weren’t out of money, even if they were driving a Mercedes

[@jmbeekeeper]

That international could steer all four tires or two . Awesome tractor .

[@PatrickShivers]

Super rare in this part of the country

[@jmbeekeeper]

@@PatrickShivers They were far and few in between in Wisconsin as well. Mostly 3588 series were on the dairy farms.

[@user-fj1tq9nt3r]

great video. Commodity prices are low compared to the finished product in the stores. I don't see how todays farmer can stay in business. I gave it up in the 80's. Thanks

[@PatrickShivers]

Store prices steady rising, commodity prices steady falling. Money getting made it the middle.

[@paulmryglod4802]

Who is the middle man?​@@PatrickShivers

[@PatrickShivers]

@@paulmryglod4802 everyone between the farmer and your table. With peanuts they get sold to a sheller that then sells them to m&m mars, jiff, or whoever, that then sells them to grocer, that then sells them to you. Soybean and corn supply chain is far more complicated with multiple buyers in the chain that just buy and then re-sale without doing anything to the grain.

[@paulmryglod4802]

@@PatrickShivers thank you for the response! I didn't consider multiple layers.

[@PatrickShivers]

@@paulmryglod4802 I grow 13-14 different crops. Most of them I sell direct to end consumer. I make profit on them and end consumer buys them cheaper/fresher from me than from grocery store. On peanuts, corn, & soybeans I can make record yield and still owe money when the USDA issues false reports and tanks our markets.

[@tugboat2739]

Howdy Patrick

[@PatrickShivers]

Howdy Tug!

[@user-tx5dt2ts6o]

Do you find the tractors in a little better shape in the South where the soil is lighter?

[@PatrickShivers]

The best shape tractors come from the midwest. Out there they are generally kept in fully inclosed barns (there is no such thing in southeast, our barns are open sides and a lot of tractors down here never get put in any barn). Midwest tractors are usually operated by their owner, southeast tractors are usually operated by hired labor, meaning less care is taken of them. As for “in the South where the soil is lighter” watch some of my videos. We farm the hardest dirt in the country. My farm is almost entirely blood red clay. Bricks for houses is made out of our dirt.

[@jasonwilson1677]

Same problem in missouri seeds sales are down this year

[@PatrickShivers]

I talked to several other farmers today, they are debating not even planting a crop this year to keep from going further in debt while we wait for commodity prices to rebound

[@brentsmith3745]

@@PatrickShiversWord like that gets around and others will plant more than normal thinking others planting less and there will be over production

[@PatrickShivers]

@@brentsmith3745 nailed it

[@johne4879]

Why do those John deer tractors have such high up steering wheels? Are they standing while plowing?

[@PatrickShivers]

*tilt steering. It’s in the up position to facilitate getting in and out of seat. They have a huge range of adjustment available on the fly

[@VYXtreme]

Do as the farmers in the EU are doing

[@BRPFan]

Oh my goodness a lot of awesome deals to be had!! It would of been worth to send 3 or 4 tractor trailers and load up the nicest, cleanest tractors and head North to the mid USA where those tractors are still bring big bucks! Sorry for all you farmers facing hard times! I from mid-Canada and $1.3 million combines are still selling like crazy! Same as the big 4WD tractor that cost a million bucks each! Not sure how they ever intend to pay for it?

[@PatrickShivers]

Tractors going from the southeast to the midwest would be an interesting turn of events. The southeast brings in used tractors from the midwest b/c their quality is so much higher. Tractors in the south are usually driven by low paid employees and kept in open sided pole barns or no barn at all. Tractors in midwest are usually barn kept and driven by their owner

[@BRPFan]

@@PatrickShivers Oh I see! Thanks for the info!

[@Foxtrap731]

Nice hat. Go Eagles!

[@PatrickShivers]

Hail Southern. I have 350+ farm education videos repping the GS hat. No word back from GS yet. I guess they got my money and gave me a sheet of paper and called it even.

[@Foxtrap731]

I'll wear mine in my videos when I set my operation up and see if they reach out for a sponsorship. But yeah, paid my money, got my paper, wear the hat with pride. Subbed. Good videos. It's a shame the plaza and original Zaxby's got demolished.@@PatrickShivers

[@joelwindsor525]

Those older ford tractor are some of the most reliable ever made Would take an older ford over a deere any day

[@PatrickShivers]

They did make some gems. They also made some failures (the entire 6000 line was recalled), but then again JD made 2010 & 2020s during that same time period which both turned out to be among the worst JD ever produced.

[@deanguando1335]

I like them also.

[@roykey3422]

Built ford tough.

[@PatrickShivers]

@@deanguando1335 look for a vintage steel wheel Fordson and a 1960s Ford coming to my farm in near future videos

[@PatrickShivers]

@@roykey3422 I got a couple of old Fords on the way

[@williewilson8244]

It’s all by design!!! Social Democrats are winning!!!! Too bad we never learnt to stick together

[@Jason4Star]

I need to walk an auction lot with you. I am not as knowledgeable about the large variety of equipment that you are.

[@PatrickShivers]

I would consider myself of average knowledge (not above average) about farm equipment. If you watch the Deanco Headland auction video from January 2023 you’ll see me asking dad about some of the equipment.

[@dougstirling6414]

Doesn’t help that Desantis has taken away the help that Americans won’t do

[@PatrickShivers]

*undocumented labor is not used in farming. You have fell victim to a democrat lie. Migratory labor is used in some farm operations, but they are all documented H2A workers here legally. If a farmer pays an employee that is not documented then he can’t take taxes out of their pay, which means he has a huge expense that he can’t deduct on his taxes. No one is doing that.

[@lancelot1953]

Hi Doug, how about putting politics aside. Employing illegals is a huge liability (housing, insurance, language, education, responsibility as illegals will sue you, yes they will, and US lawyers will get you...). Many American kids do not work farm even for good pay, AC-equipped tractors, etc. - they do not want to work... period. Price of farmland (Northeast) has increased ten-folds in my area - same across the nation and that is not because of Governor DeSantis' policies... Silicon Valley and Democratic-supporting states are buying and investing in land/housing/property by the millions. Mr Bill Gates (yes, the man himself), has bought a quarter million acres of prime farmland (killing the market for small farmers), owns 1.3 billions+ stocks in John Deere (who tried to prevent farmers from servicing their own machinery), his foundation owns/owned half-million shares of Monsanto (big petro-chemical "Round-Up" producing company), etc... and he wants us to go... vegetarian... etc. It is destroying agriculture (I live in a "Democrat" state). Please, do some research before commenting. Ciao, L (Morningside and Star Shine Farms, Inc.)

[@MarshallLanier-oi1mk]

About the R series. The DEF and regen wasn't on them til 2014. Our 8285R is 2012 and it doesn't require DEF. THE 2009 and 2010 8295R didn't have DEF either. But in reality it was basically a leftover 8330.

[@PatrickShivers]

The three Rs my dad and brother-in-law have don’t take DEF but do have exhaust filters and regin. They burnt up 3 engines. They had some newer DEF tractors before these but swapped back to pre-DEFs.

[@MarshallLanier-oi1mk]

@@PatrickShivers all thanks to our wonderful Federal Gub'ment. And it's not only Deere. It's now required for all the American manufactured equipment. But, Deeres made in Europe are not required to have it.

[@kevinbesser7566]

We have several customers with over 20,000 hours on the r series, of course it’s feedlots and dairy’s not farming, but regular/scheduled by the book maintenance is key

[@tomreisinger6220]

What are land prices doing in that area?

[@PatrickShivers]

The few tracks that come up are sold higher than normal. For the most part it’s solar farms buying not ag farms. Solar developers offer a lot more and it takes more to convince someone to destroy their land with panels.

[@RedClover1987]

Commodity prices low. Food prices high. Food production facilities burning to the ground. The 6 food conglomerates bragging about their profits; up to 25%. Shrinkflation profiteering.

[@furyjay]

We have sold more fendt tractor in the last few months than i thought we would do to the prices we just sold 30 units to one farmer

[@PatrickShivers]

I heard a story in Seminole county that a farmer had a falling out with Deere and switched his entire fleet to Fendt except for his JD cotton roller. Supposedly it was 27 tractors.

[@furyjay]

@@PatrickShivers word travels fast lol im not a salesman btw just a field service tech everyone has asked me about them

[@PatrickShivers]

@@furyjay I’ve been in some Fendts but never had the opportunity to run one. They look to me to be built as good or better than Deere.

[@furyjay]

@@PatrickShivers better but dont take my word for it just ask around we have sold a few guys one fendt and now they have 5 they were big deere customers

[@PatrickShivers]

@@furyjay I’d love to run one for a few hours to get the footage and do a review.

[@pedro97w]

What about no-till regenerative?

[@PatrickShivers]

When the USDA releases false reports deliberately tanking the price of your commodity it doesn’t matter if you were no-till, strip till, or conventional till. You all lose.

[@Jason4Star]

18:35 - about this time you get into the actual auction. Southern auctions are sort of a strange thing. I didn't grow up going to them and only started going as an adult. There is a culture about Southern auctions. I can't understand what the guy is saying and I don't know why he stutters so much, but I get it - he gets the sale done in the shortest amount of time for the interest of the several buyers that showed up. If the process is prolonged at any point, or a dull in excitement, then people leave and when people leave the prices drop. When the prices drop, the people that list on auctions in the first place start looking for other means to sell their goods. I get it.

[@trevorn9381]

Back in the old days when a farm sold out they would always pile up all of the junk out of the house, barns and sheds up on a hay wagon. The auctioneer would spend half a day selling old blue canning jars, horse collars, scythe blades, single barrel shotguns, etc., etc. The big ticket items like the combine and the tractors, trucks and farm implements would be the absolute last stuff to sell. Farmers would have a lot of time to look at that stuff and usually one or two (or more) of them would have their mind made up that they were taking a certain tractor home resulting in bidding wars and stuff selling for waaay more than it was worth. I remember one time this farmer was bidding something up and his old lady came marching up and snatched his bidder number out of his hand a ripped it up and said: "You ain't buying that damn thing because we ain't got no money!" The auctioneer said "I ain't gonna argue with her" and pointed to the next highest bidder and said "SOLD!" LOL

[@Jason4Star]

@@trevorn9381OMG that's hilarious. And if he ain't got any money, the auctioneer doesn't want him there anyway. That's a thing about the excited that builds up is when two or even three people (or groups) get into a bidding war and prices go way higher than market. People sometimes get nutty in auctions. It is entertaining to watch, as long as you can keep your wits.

[@trevorn9381]

@@Jason4Star Back around the turn of the century I was at a sale where the guy had a yellow top 6620 that was slam wore out. It had been sitting out and was rusted out. the corn head was equally wore out. The farmer had an nearly brand new 915 flex head that he had bought to put on it because he had completely wore out the bean head that came with it in 1980. They sold the combine then sold the heads. Two or three farmers wanted that heap of junk bad, I dunno why. Young guy who obviously didn't know too much about combines won the bidding war and bought the combine for waaay more than it was worth, then bought that junk cornhead for more than it was worth as well. When it got to that flex head my old man who was standing next to me wanted it and he bid it up to almost the price of a new one, and he realized the idiot was not going to stop bidding and let him have it. Apparently the dude thought I was the one bidding and came up to me and started cussing and raising hell and said: " You GD SOB I didn't want to pay that much for it!" I didn't bother to tell him it was the old man bidding and not me because I knew I could deck the dude if he tried to start something and the old man was about 60 at the time. I said: I said: "well buddy nobody was holding a gun on you making you keep bidding" He thought better of tangling with me and stomped off. lol

[@Jason4Star]

@@trevorn9381It's that emotion and pride of the auction that you are talking about. While the bidding war is going on sometimes people get offended, like it becomes personal and they get a dopamine hit or something. It ends so quickly as soon as someone wins, and the winner realizes that they have to pay. The height of action is gone, the auctioneer is now focused on the next two idiots. LOL. I know too, I have seen stupid in auctions time and again. I really love tax lien auctions, like on delinquent tax sales each county does every year on land and property. Here in South Carolina trailer homes also have property tax that is separate from the land itself. I went to one county tax deed auction in 2021, when interest rate was cheap and everyone was borrowing money, and watch two guys get into a bidding war over a wore out 1970's trailer home that ran the price up to $30,000. For what? It was barely livable and it didn't include the land. ANd it didn't really include the trailer, only the tax rights on the trailer. It was ridiculous. Needless to say I did not win a single bid during that particular auction. And I am glad I did not.

[@tommybreen9677]

Look to white oak pastures for the way to the future. Farmer’s don’t realise just how powerful they are when they stick together.

[@PatrickShivers]

White oak Pastures is my neighbors. While they are a ranch, (they raise animals) they are not a farm. They do grow some vegetables on small scale, not commercial level.

[@greall]

I often ask customers if they think that we pay for fertilizer with thoughts and prayers

[@PatrickShivers]

Exactly

[@johnnyholland8765]

Well it's time for the crash again. Patrick I invite you to come to Rebel auction in Hazlehurst Ga. Second Thursday of every month rain or shine. Sells from a comfortable climate controlled building. Come see us...

[@PatrickShivers]

I would love to come, I have looked at y’alls catalog online before. Unfortunately I’m wrapped up in tillage/planting/harvesting (I start harvesting produce in 50 days) from now until brief break in August. I may see you in the fall.

[@interman7715]

Crying shame that 4960 ,they didn't even bother cleaning it up ,we had tractors with many thousands of hours on them and they were like new .

[@PatrickShivers]

Drives me crazy.

[@onelonleyfarmer]

I miss my 7410

[@PatrickShivers]

Great tractors

[@deanguando1335]

That was some auction.

[@PatrickShivers]

I was amazed at how many people stood out there in the rain

[@ourv9603]

YES, they are switching over to ELECTRICS. !

[@PatrickShivers]

No they’re not.

[@user-qr5vb3vm6e]

The government mad farming so expensive back in the 70s that they were shutting down in upstate (closer to Montreal than New York City) part of New York . I thought that the Woodstock festival I heard about might be fun, I had dairy cattle and a garden, and field crop of corn to work on. Glad for it. Woodstock was a miserable few days. Realy have to reach to find the fun .you just remember that if you can't say something nice,don't say anything.

[@DurzoBlunts]

First tractor to use a rotary tiller had 22 hp. Random fact of the day.

[@ronitgadwal1832]

Why do you think it is happening sir? Why guys are leaving farming according to you? According to me it's because less difference in operation costs and profit, climate change (destroy the crop) and wars all around (fuel cost sky rocketing) I forgot to add that I'm a 17 year old planning and wanting to be a farmer(production scale) since we're farmers from generations but no one even in the country thought of operating at large scale. Here operation cost per season per acre comes around $120 and hay of the same farm is sold at same price (120 dollars per acre per season) and grains become pure profit and sold at around $600 per acre (average yield * minimum price) Also unlike west, India is importing crude oil from Russia at cheap prices

[@PatrickShivers]

Climate change isn’t destroying crops. Wars also aren’t making fuel costs sky rocket. The US drastically reduced it’s oil production which led to less supply which causes higher demand (price). The cost of a barrel of oil is the primary factor that affects farmers b/c our fertilizer is made from petroleum, our tractors use fuel and oil, tires are made from petroleum, our crops are transported on 18 wheelers (transport costs directly reflect fuel cost). Farmers also buy more electricity than most industries as our irrigations are largely powered by electric pumps. Six figure annual electricity bills are common on average size farm. When the current administration cripples the electricity production power rates rise and that hits us hard. The largest single thing that the current administration has done is intentional manipulation of commodity prices. The USDA issued an insanely in accurate crop report just before harvest this year to intentionally tank the price of corn. When the supposed crop didn’t arrive at market they issued a revised report again grossly overstating the stored grain so as to keep the prices low. They then issued a second revision when their first revision was never materialized at market. They are still claiming a massive crop that doesn’t exist in reality is on hand. This has pushed the current value of corn below the cost of production. They did this because the federal government mandates ethanol be in gasoline. If your policies cause gas prices to explode then the only way to lower them is to reduce the cost of ethanol that you mandate be in the gas. You reduce ethanol costs by tanking the corn market. The farming community loses 100s of millions in dollars and Biden gets to say he dropped the price of gas 6 cents

[@ronitgadwal1832]

I'm just surprised by such politics, as an Indian I don't know the ground state of America and as you described the scenario now I think I've a clear image in my mind why that farmer let Trump sign his combine! I've some questions.. 1. Do you sell your produced in open market (where middleman buys it from you supplies to food factories etc) or you sell it directly to factories and mills etc 2. How many acres/hectares you mean by average size farms which have 6 digit electricity bill? 3. If electricity prices are so high then why don't fellow farmers go for solar panels? (Is it unrealistic to run center pivots by solar system) 4. Can you show me some maths about your operating cost? Breaking it to per acre per season like I did in which I included all expenses like diesel, seeds, fertilizers, irrigation, and transportation By the way thank you for answering and providing me some real facts

[@42base13]

​@@ronitgadwal1832 I'm a midwestern farmer, but I can take a guess at some answers. 1. It's both. A lot of our grain is sold to middlemen, but we do sell some to end users. Here, that's mostly ethanol plants or feed mills. 2. Their setups are a little different down there, but I would think a six digit electric bill would cover 1,000 hectares or so. 3. It would take many hectares of solar panels to power one irrigation system, and what do you do at night? More hectares of solar panels, and buildings full of batteries? It's not practical. 4. Here in the Midwest, we're mostly growing corn and soybeans. Corn might cost $1,000-1,200 per hectare in seed, fertilizer, chemical, irrigation. That doesn't include machinery or land costs. Typical yields are in the 13-15 tonnes grain per hectare. Currently the local price is $160/tonne, but it was closer to $190/tonne at harvest and we had plenty of opportunity to sell a portion of the crop ahead for $230 or more. Soybean costs would be in the $600-700/hectare for seed-fertilizer-chemical-irrigation, but we only get 4-4.5 tonnes/hectare yield on them. Currently local price is $400/tonne, but at harvest was around $450/tonne. Most farmers in the Midwest rent around half their ground. Rents usually take up most of the margin between expenses and income. Due to our government policies, the real money is in owning farmland, not in farming itself.

[@libertyforamericanow]

4:39 thats what i need and could afford

[@PatrickShivers]

*if it ran/worked* it was a heck of a deal!

[@johnphillips2396]

If the world's oldest profession is failing ,then we are screwed. This shows you get what you voted for.

[@PatrickShivers]

I’ve always heard that something else was the world’s oldest profession. But agreed, you get what you vote for.

[@johnphillips2396]

God made Adam to dress the garden.@@PatrickShivers

[@mustlovedogs272]

Great looking Polo sweater Patrick is wearing while spilling the same poor pitiful me comments I’ve been hearing for over 50 years now.

[@PatrickShivers]

I never said I was hurting, & my mom-in-law bought that for me for Christmas. If you watch the 400+ videos I’ve uploaded you’ll notice I wear a $8 Gildan polo shirt and wrangler jeans 300+ days a year

[@PatrickShivers]

And it doesn’t if I was wearing a Gucci suit, it doesn’t change the fact that 2023 was a bad year for southeastern farmers. 2022 was good. We have good years, bad years, and somewhere in the middle years. Are we supposed to throw out all our wardrobe on bad years and buy all new clothes that cost less. Seems like an added expense.

[@markkallstrom5672]

Do you grow any sweet corn , that's our main crop selling directly to the public ?

[@PatrickShivers]

I’ve had requests for it several times. I’m growing a small test plot this year.

[@PatrickShivers]

What variety works best for you?

[@timhood6970]

Ford tractors wasn't ever known for being reliable??? Ummmmm OK then!!!

[@bradleyhupp6433]

I sure got more out of this video than anything I have seen at auctions.

[@PatrickShivers]

Thanks Bradley! I have 2 other auction videos posted 3 weeks ago you may like.

[@juliuskwatajulius3175]

Hi i want to buy fRm equipment can you give the link to a dealer or any seller

[@PatrickShivers]

Google farm equipment auction and find one close to you. There is also MachineryFinder and TractorHouse online resources

[@Plo890]

Deals can be had/made. Solar panels to replace farmland is your childrens future 😅. Insects are delicious

[@BaileyFarming]

Second gen farmer from western ok. Been seeing quite a few black pilled videos lately. What I’m seeing is the old farmer that were never any good at farmer and gets worse as they get older are simply going broke because they were never any good at their job. Most around here are lazy and I can’t say that I mind seeing them get kicked out of the way. Also we have 4 8000r tractors and two of them are over 8k hours and have never done anything to the engine but put turbos on them. We only go 150hrs on oil change which is much shorter then the book calls for but it’s easy and cheap compared to letting them blow up.

[@PatrickShivers]

We’ve kept the scheduled maintenance up and still replaced 2 or 3 fan drives, multiple turbos, and 3 engines (2 on one tractor and 1 on another). All this on just 3 R tractors. I have videos detailing it all. Deleted the exhaust filter and regin process and the tractors stopped breaking down, ran cooler, & worked better. Midwest farmers weren’t effected last year (2023) the same as south-eastern farmers as they don’t grow peanuts and peanuts are our primary crop. It was a terrible peanut yield year (for every peanut farmer) coupled with below break even cotton prices (our second biggest commodity) and low corn prices.

[@colleenlouise4521]

the poor farmers lost their shirt selling their equipment so cheap.

[@cajunoneforchrist4545]

Diesel is getting ready to explode in price. End days are getting exciting.

[@jayjones6904]

I worked at John deere didn't like what new machines represented