Southern Generals & Admirals Who Chose To Fight For The Union

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@GrungeHQ
@GrungeHQ Жыл бұрын
Was this the first time you had heard of any of these soldiers who fought in the civil war?
@RobertBlackmon-wo8mp
@RobertBlackmon-wo8mp Жыл бұрын
These men were famously known!! I'm from the south and most of my family fought for Dixie . But God bless men who stayed steadfast to their convictions ! Stay true to your self! Blue or Grey.
@SoulKiller7Eternal
@SoulKiller7Eternal 10 ай бұрын
Nope. Ive known a good number of them. A few them, yes.
@0755575
@0755575 Жыл бұрын
General Scott did not join the Union Army. He joined the United States Army.
@andycockrum1212
@andycockrum1212 Жыл бұрын
Yeah those 2 things are the same thing
@Abdus_VGC
@Abdus_VGC 8 ай бұрын
He was the commander in chief to begin with
@top_gallant
@top_gallant 8 ай бұрын
@@andycockrum1212 Nah. Union generally means the U.S. army only during the Civil War. It's better to say Unlisted States instead of Union anyway because it's more impactful and separates the U.S. military from those domestic terrorist who murdered United States military members better than the term Union.
@nickroberts-xf7oq
@nickroberts-xf7oq 3 ай бұрын
😂 ​@@top_gallant
@uncletiggermclaren7592
@uncletiggermclaren7592 15 күн бұрын
Well said. I don't know why anyone with self respect refers to it in any other way.
@JohnHausser
@JohnHausser Жыл бұрын
God bless those who fought for the Union Army 🇺🇸
@1946luke
@1946luke Жыл бұрын
Hogwash ! Blue belly yankee dogs.
@zacharylewis6108
@zacharylewis6108 Жыл бұрын
​​@@1946lukebe quiet you Live in this nation. We are the Union. Sore yellow belly southerners.
@patrickhealy2706
@patrickhealy2706 Жыл бұрын
Amen
@danarose6314
@danarose6314 Жыл бұрын
Please go to Russia or China-traitor@@1946luke
@patrickhealy2706
@patrickhealy2706 Жыл бұрын
National interests Trump's states rights
@johnshepherd9676
@johnshepherd9676 Жыл бұрын
Scott was too old to command the Army but he developed a plan to defeat the South. it was derisively labeled the Anaconda Plan but it was the plan that eventually won the war. Scott is probably the most underrated General in American history. No less than Arthur Wellesley, the Duke of Wellington called him the greatest general of the age. Scott had an understanding of strategy that was 50 years ahead of his contemporaries both at home and abroad.
@garycombs5721
@garycombs5721 Жыл бұрын
Not only was Thomas the most underrated general of the civil war, he is also one of the most underrated generals in the entire history of warfare.
@rifelaw
@rifelaw Жыл бұрын
There were three times during the Sedition the Confederate forces were run off the field: Mill Springs, KY, Jan, 1862; Missionary Ridge, TN, Nov. 1863; and Nashville, TN, Dec. 1864. On all three occasions the Union commander was Thomas (with significant assistance at Missionary Ridge from the much-maligned Joe Hooker), and he pulled off the latter two in spite of serious interference from Grant the Great.
@garycombs5721
@garycombs5721 Жыл бұрын
@@rifelaw Thomas rocked!
@freddy8479
@freddy8479 Жыл бұрын
INDEED AND AGREED 💯 ABOUT: "THE ROCK OF CHICKAMAUGA" "THE SLEDGE OF NASHVILLE" "PAP" AND "SLOW TROT"
@TenOfTwenty
@TenOfTwenty Жыл бұрын
He was the best general in the war hands down.
@freddy8479
@freddy8479 Жыл бұрын
Sidenote: While as an Instructor at West Point, he taught some of the students whom later he defeated in battle during the Civil War. Notably: GEN. JOHN BELL HOOD AT NASHVILLE!!! Also as a Cavalry Instructor at the Point, he honed the skills of Cadet James Elwell Brown (JEB) Stuart.
@ingothitrust5248
@ingothitrust5248 Жыл бұрын
What about cavalry officer John Buford? He was a Kentuckian who was married to a Southern sympathizer, had relatives who would fight for the South, his family owned slaves, and was issued a letter by the Governor of Kentucky offering him a generous posting with accompanying rank and privileges if he relinquished his commission as a US officer, and yet he remained loyal and is greatly credited with tipping the balance in the Union's favor at the pinnacle Battle of Gettysburg.
@freddy8479
@freddy8479 Жыл бұрын
AGREED 💯
@chancellor1055
@chancellor1055 Жыл бұрын
Kentucky stayed in the union
@freddy8479
@freddy8479 Жыл бұрын
@@chancellor1055 A Border State
@patrickhealy2706
@patrickhealy2706 Жыл бұрын
Helluva a man
@Tigerfan50
@Tigerfan50 Жыл бұрын
At least a few honored their oath of loyalty and fought for the nation, not the traitors. God bless them.
@haroldcampbell3337
@haroldcampbell3337 Жыл бұрын
More than just a few. Every state in the Confederacy except South Carolina had Union regiments.
@alexlehrersh9951
@alexlehrersh9951 Жыл бұрын
go buy rope those were the traitorslong live the confedaration
@SirSparrowHawk
@SirSparrowHawk 11 ай бұрын
​@@alexlehrersh9951didn't last long lmfao
@alexlehrersh9951
@alexlehrersh9951 11 ай бұрын
It never died in the hearth of brave and inocent humans@@SirSparrowHawk
@wdb3110
@wdb3110 10 ай бұрын
The Traitors were Lincoln and his uniformed subordinates who failed to adhere to the U.S. Constitution, and were responsible for the War of Northern Aggression!
@SantomPh
@SantomPh Жыл бұрын
Didn't mention that the Anaconda Plan, which choked Southern ports was Winfield Scott's idea
@hollymartins6913
@hollymartins6913 Жыл бұрын
As a middle -aged life-long Southerner from a family that has lived in the South for generations, I love my home and the beauty of this region. I love the people and the thought of taking up arms against my neighbors would be terrible. But nowhere as terrible as the life of a human being forced into the brutal and inhumane existence of a slave. In my heart, I know that slavery and racial discrimination is an abomination. As much as it would damage my soul, I would be willing to take up arms against my very family if they chose to support such an evil, Godless, institution as slavery. And , as a Soldier, Sailor, or Marine, you swear an oath to this country. There isn't a 'unless I think I have a good excuse' clause with that oath. I wouldn't take it lightly in any way. But I'd still fight anyone who thinks they have a right to own other human beings.
@jfournerat1274
@jfournerat1274 Жыл бұрын
You are a very honorable and noble person for being willing to fight against the evil of slavery and do what is right even if it means fighting against your own family to do so.
@5552-d8b
@5552-d8b Жыл бұрын
Every person should stand for the morals. I agree. Regardless of the state, slavery needed to be destroyed so I give credit to the southerners who joined the north to put an end to slavery.
@1946luke
@1946luke Жыл бұрын
Life long southerner, maybe. But at heart, you sound like a blue belly yankee.
@TruthFiction
@TruthFiction Жыл бұрын
Consider that for every officer who broke their oath and joined the rebellion three southern born officers remained loyal to the nation and fought against them. More of Lee's relatives wore blue than grey.
@WestTNConfed
@WestTNConfed Жыл бұрын
I'm very proud of your 21st century morals judging those 162 years ago in the 19th century when slavery was a world wide institution morally accepted in almost every culture in the world.
@chedelirio6984
@chedelirio6984 Жыл бұрын
The names that all those bases in the South should have had all along. The ones with *real* honor.
@travisbayles870
@travisbayles870 Жыл бұрын
Thomas was also known as Old Pap and the Sledgehammer of Nashville
@markwest3485
@markwest3485 Жыл бұрын
My eternal gratitude and respect for those who kept faith with their oath to preserve and protect the constitution of the United States above the insurrectionist states where they were born. These are the true patriots.
@dougerrohmer
@dougerrohmer Жыл бұрын
I think some navy bilge rat is gonna point this out, so I'll do it first. Farragut didn't "receive his commission as an admiral", he achieved flag rank. He received his commission way back when he became an ensign or whatever they called the bottommost officer rank. And the navy ships weren't "commissioned in his honour", they were just named after him.
@VinceNeil-sg9nq
@VinceNeil-sg9nq Жыл бұрын
Yeah this site is not too well known for checking their facts before publishing
@georgesotiroff5080
@georgesotiroff5080 Жыл бұрын
This site is not too well known for checking ITS facts… (Site is singular.)
@StardogChampion06
@StardogChampion06 Жыл бұрын
Many of Confederate statues that were removed should be replace by Southern Union generals like Winfield Scott and George Thomas.
@Bob-qk2zg
@Bob-qk2zg Жыл бұрын
On my wife's side of the family, 19 Tuckers went north from Alabama and fought for the Union. No generals but patriots all.
@baneofbanes
@baneofbanes 4 ай бұрын
Over a hundred thousand white southerners from the states that seceded fought for the Union. And that’s not even counting the southern states that remained in the Union.
@Robert-ku6jx
@Robert-ku6jx 2 ай бұрын
My 3x great grandfather, Robert Stell Heflin, was a southern unionist, abolitionist, and congressman from Alabama. Most of that side of my family doesn't remember him as a patriot, but myself and my own family do.
@aguy559
@aguy559 Жыл бұрын
In the War of 1812, Winfield Scott served in the United States Army, not the Union Army.
@MassachusettsTrainVideos1136
@MassachusettsTrainVideos1136 Жыл бұрын
Is there a difference? Excuse my ignorance.
@aguy559
@aguy559 Жыл бұрын
@@MassachusettsTrainVideos1136 The “Union” Army was only called that in reference to the U.S. Civil War in which the Confederates, of course, favored disunion.
@MassachusettsTrainVideos1136
@MassachusettsTrainVideos1136 Жыл бұрын
@@aguy559 Ah ok
@wdb3110
@wdb3110 10 ай бұрын
@@aguy559, "disunion" as outlined in the U;S Constitution!
@kennethmurphy6621
@kennethmurphy6621 Жыл бұрын
It's a little strange to bring up Adm Farragut and not mention the Battle of Mobile Bay. Both capturing New Orleans and attacking Vicksburg were important, but the Battle of Mobile Bay is his most famous battle. As the Union ships sailed into the bay past Forts Morgan and Gaines there were "torpedoes", as they called mines during that time, in the waters of the channel into the bay. The ships were in two columns, with ironclad monitors in the one closest to the nearer fort to screen the other non ironclads. The lead monitor, the USS Tecumseh was sunk by a torpedo, and the USS Brooklyn & Octorara (lashed together) the lead ships in the other column stopped. Then RAdm Farragut, strapped up in the mast of his flagship, called down to Captain Drayton "Damn the torpedoes! Four bells. Captain Drayton, go ahead! Jouett, full speed!" The last part was to the commanding officer of the USS Metacomet which was lashed to his flag ship USS Hartford. This order has been paraphrased to the more widely known "damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead!" With this order the USS Hartford & Metacomet went around the USS Brooklyn & Octorara to lead the rest of the Union ships into the bay. Once in the bay they fought the Confederate ships there, forcing the ironclad CSS Tennessee and one of the three gunboats to surrender. They damaging another gunboat so bad she had to beach herself. The last gunboat sought protection under the guns of Fort Morgan, and slipped away to Mobile during the night.
@aaronfleming9426
@aaronfleming9426 8 ай бұрын
Mobile Bay was strategically less important than New Orleans, but certainly the more quotable moment! I had only heard the paraphrased version of that quote, never the full version. Thanks for sharing that!
@MrFagedaboudit
@MrFagedaboudit Жыл бұрын
CaV-alry, NOT CaL-vary, puhleeze. 😊 P.S. Calvary was the hill upon which J was crucified.
@robertsansone1680
@robertsansone1680 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting. Thank You. There were Northerners that fought for the South also. John C. Pemberton, the Confederate commander at Vicksburg was from Philadelphia.
@noskpain2792
@noskpain2792 Жыл бұрын
George Cooper from New York was the highest ranking General in the confederate army.
@markvasquez9023
@markvasquez9023 Жыл бұрын
Wouldn't Yankees that fought for the south, be considered traitors by the north? Mv
@baneofbanes
@baneofbanes 4 ай бұрын
@@markvasquez9023yes, they traitors just like the rest of the confederates.
@TomWilson-sy4jo
@TomWilson-sy4jo Жыл бұрын
One General not mentioned was Major General Jesse Reno. Born in Virginia Reno was in the same class as Stonewall Jackson at West Point. Reno was the commander of the Union IX Corps and would be killed at the Battle of South Mountain possibly by friendly fire. His loss would have grave consequences for the Union Army just a couple of days later, as the IX Corps sluggish progress across the Antietam Creek allowed AP Hill enough time to come to the aid of the collapsing Confederate Army.
@freddy8479
@freddy8479 Жыл бұрын
AGREED 💯
@clancy_101
@clancy_101 Жыл бұрын
Kentucky was not in the confederacy
@JamesMartinelli-jr9mh
@JamesMartinelli-jr9mh Жыл бұрын
Thomas - his family kept his photo on the wall - turned to the wall - a shame to the family.
@clancy_101
@clancy_101 Жыл бұрын
Remained loyal to the United States of America...
@avenaoat
@avenaoat Жыл бұрын
Kentucky was unionist in majority same to Missouri, Maryland and Delaware! West Kentucky and a very few counties in other regions were Confederate sentiment areas in Kentucky. The Little Dixie (the main slavery populated region ) was Proconfederate in Missouri. For example Hanibal Mark Twain's native town was Proconfederate in the Little Dixie and Mark Twain joined to the Proconfederate militia in 1861, but he became Prounionist in Nevada in 1863! The most Proconfederate region was the East-South East counties to Washington and Baltimore with high % slaves in Maryland. The future West Virginia gave almost equal soldiers to South and the North, but Delaware (the lowest % slave populated state) gave the most soldierst to the Unio! BTW: White soldiers in the Confederacy ( I do not know the Navy numbers but Rear admiral Farragut arrived from East Teenneessee!) Alabama 2,700 Arkansas 9,000 Florida 1,000 Georgia 2,500 Louisiana 5,000 Mississippi 545 North Carolina 10,000 Tennessee 31,000 Texas 2,000 Virginia and West Virginia 21,000-23,000 It might have been more because Georgia, Alabama and Texas had bigger % unionist people, only the Unionist Army either did not reach them or reached them too late. But the Alabama Cavalry Unionist regiment fought with Sherman in Georgia and in the Carolinas. Not only Jones county in Mississippi (Hollywood made movie from it) or East Tennessee but Winston in Alabama county also seccessed from the Confederacy. 2 unionist East Tennessee regiments fought with general Thomas at the battle of Mill Springs in 1862. The 200 000 colored Unionist soldiers and the 100 000 white southern Unionist soldiers role was important in the Unionist Victory!
@therambler3055
@therambler3055 Жыл бұрын
I would caution on the West Virginia numbers because though WV fielded a lot of political union officers I didn’t realize that a lot of the rank and file men who formed WV units came from west Pennsylvania and south east Ohio.
@avenaoat
@avenaoat Жыл бұрын
@@therambler3055 West Virgian regiments had more than 35 000 soldiers. You are right about 21000 soldiers came from West Virginia a more soldiers came from Ohio and Pennsylvania. The nowdays West Virginia got a few proconfederate sentiment counties during the War. The original plan was a less territory state, when the name of the newer state was other. .
@Thevitz623
@Thevitz623 Жыл бұрын
Some true Southerners, unlike the traitors who betrayed their oaths to the constitution
@thomaswatson1739
@thomaswatson1739 Жыл бұрын
The Constitution isn’t anti-secession.
@mikethebike2456
@mikethebike2456 Жыл бұрын
🛵 So if you fight for the North you're a true Southerner. That really doesn't sound right.
@therambler3055
@therambler3055 Жыл бұрын
The oath was not the same as it is now. It was to THEM and THERE enemies foreign or domestic. For the south THERE enemies where domestic 🤦‍♂️. It doesn’t matter how you feel about them. They kept there oath as it was written prior to the war.
@mikethebike2456
@mikethebike2456 Жыл бұрын
@@therambler3055 🛵 THEIR enemies.
@therambler3055
@therambler3055 Жыл бұрын
@@mikethebike2456 yup
@zach7193
@zach7193 Жыл бұрын
This is quite a list. These men fought and defended the Union and the Constitution despite having Southern ties. Forgot about John Buford.
@ingothitrust5248
@ingothitrust5248 Жыл бұрын
Totally agreed. Gettysburg may not have been won had it not been for him choosing the terrain and the way he positioned his cavalry troops.
@timdelph2747
@timdelph2747 Жыл бұрын
Admiral David Farragut born one day after independence in 1801 in TN? That is a confusing statement and not accurate.
@dsanchez9703
@dsanchez9703 Жыл бұрын
The Union Rocks!
@Mountlougallops
@Mountlougallops Жыл бұрын
That’s cavalry not Calvary
@rstovepipe5910
@rstovepipe5910 9 ай бұрын
against all enemies, foreign and DOMESTIC
@elmeromogollon
@elmeromogollon Жыл бұрын
No mention of William S. Harney?
@Idahoguy10157
@Idahoguy10157 Жыл бұрын
IIRC Union officers who remain loyal were considered by some in the Union government as suspect. Despite their proven duty and devotion
@TruthFiction
@TruthFiction Жыл бұрын
And many rose to high rank and were given prestigious commands.
@jasonking3182
@jasonking3182 Жыл бұрын
George Henry Thomas may have been the best Generals in the Civil War. He destroyed a Confederate army at Nashville in one of the most brutal one sided battles in the war leaving the entire South open to Sherman. He’s been forgotten because he feuded with Grant during the war and died before writing his own memoirs like most of the other Generals had a chance to do.
@totallynotalpharius2283
@totallynotalpharius2283 Жыл бұрын
Destroyed is an understatement lol, he annihilated Hoods army Also he burnt his personal letters /probably wouldn’t have written memoirs because he was an intensely private person. I agree that he probably was the best commander on either side. His stand on Snodgrass Hill is legend
@jasonking3182
@jasonking3182 Жыл бұрын
@@totallynotalpharius2283 Hood may win the prize for worst general in any army during the Civil War. I never understood naming a fort after him
@therambler3055
@therambler3055 Жыл бұрын
@@jasonking3182you could make an argument for that at army command. But there is no doubt he was a fantastic brigade and division commander. Army command was just to much for him.
@MuttTheHoople
@MuttTheHoople Жыл бұрын
@@jasonking3182 Braxton Bragg would like to have a word with you about incompetent Generals.
@stevehall383
@stevehall383 Жыл бұрын
Great video, please follow up with the stories of what happened to the confederate officers after the war.
@TruthFiction
@TruthFiction Жыл бұрын
They told themselves what stupid fools they were for thinking they had a god given right to own other people and do whatever they felt like to them. Oh wait, no what they really did was spread lies that the war wasn't over slavery and that they were acting as any honorable person would when faced with the choice of breaking their oaths to their nation or joining a war to keep colored people as property FOR ALL ETERNITY as written in the Confederate Constitution.
@freddy8479
@freddy8479 Жыл бұрын
COL. BENJAMIN F. "GRIMES" DAVIS of ALABAMA/MISSISSIPPI who moved his regiment, "THE 6th NEW YORK CAVALRY" out of Harper's Ferry before the garrison was captured by "Stonewall" Jackson during Antietam in 1862 and capturing a Confederate supply train. He was killed during the first or second day at Gettysburg in a engagement with the Confederate Cavalry. He was on the list for promotion to Brigadier General.
@bastage5932
@bastage5932 Жыл бұрын
I'd argue that the southerners who fought for the union are the ones who remained loyal.
@NoelG702
@NoelG702 Жыл бұрын
Now do Generals from the north who chose to fight for the south. I can think of several. Why do you keep saying "Union Army" when talking about the time before the Civil War? It should be U.S. Army.
@top_gallant
@top_gallant Жыл бұрын
During the Civil War most Southerners stayed loyal to their states. Yeah because of the conscription act of 1862. As of April that year every white male 18-35 serve. The majority of Southerners fought for the rebels because they got drafted.
@jasonking3182
@jasonking3182 Жыл бұрын
Every Southern state except South Carolina provided organized regiments of white soldiers to the Union Army, around 100,000 men. This is of course not counting the 100s of thousands of slaves who fought for their freedom.
@ValerieGriner
@ValerieGriner 8 ай бұрын
The north drafted men, too.
@top_gallant
@top_gallant 8 ай бұрын
@@ValerieGriner The difference was the C.S.A. was police state. The United States drafted about 10% of its troops. The rebs drafted 100% of its troops from April 62 on. Pass books were required to travel for every person. The rebels stole so much civilian food starving women rioted. They closed all colleges eventually.
@baneofbanes
@baneofbanes 4 ай бұрын
@@ValerieGrineryah, after the confederacy started their draft.
@TruthFiction
@TruthFiction Жыл бұрын
Considering that for every one officer who resigned to become a rebel, three remained loyal to their oaths and fought with the Union this list is waaaaaay too short.
@Abdus_VGC
@Abdus_VGC Жыл бұрын
Where is John Buford, you show the pic of John Gibbon but forgot about the guy sitting who was the first one to go into skirmish at the bloody battle of Gettysburg!
@Outlier999
@Outlier999 Жыл бұрын
Too bad Henry Thomas died at 53. He was a great man. The Southerners built statues of Lee, Davis, Forrest and other Rebel leaders. They never dedicated any to the true heroes like Thomas and Farragut. 40% of officers and 60% of enlisted men from the South stayed in the Union Army. My guess is the officers wanted to protect their plantations but the enlisted men had nothing to defend.
@MuttTheHoople
@MuttTheHoople Жыл бұрын
Interesting story- at the start of the Civil War, the best officers tend to side with the Confederacy. However, at least 85% of the Non-commissioned Officers sided with the Union. As we've seen for 250 years, the Sergeants are the backbone of any American Army. That's why the Union Army, while poorly led, never came close to disintegrating.
@phillipchappell6013
@phillipchappell6013 Жыл бұрын
Did you forget John Buford I believe was from Kentucky
@AbuWyatt
@AbuWyatt Жыл бұрын
No one was fighting for the abolition of slavery. 🙄 Slavery was legal in Union states before, during, and AFTER the war. Lincoln himself said the war was to preserve the Union, even if it meant keeping slavery in place. The Emancipation Proclamation was only going to apply to states that were in rebellion. That way if any Confederate States returned to the Union before the following January, they could keep their slaves. Union states with slaves were not subject to the Proclamation, and parts of the South that were under Union military control were not subject to it either. Also, Northern citizens and Union Army leaders were racist as hell. The idea of the noble northern abolitionist is similar to all of the supposed legions of French that claimed to have been in the Resistance during WWII. After it was all over there sure were a whole lot more people claiming to have been involved than actually were during the time. 😂
@TomWilson-sy4jo
@TomWilson-sy4jo Жыл бұрын
I think there is something wonderfully naive about our thoughts on the Civil War, it seems that everyone in the South wants to deny that their ancestors fought for slavery and everyone in the North wants to claim that their ancestors did fight for abolition. The majority of Americans in the 19th century believed certain races were superior to others, North or South. Today some want to label the CSA as racists and others want to portray them as glorious heroes and slavery was a non-issue. Before we judge our ancestors so harshly, I think we also need to ask ourselves have we eliminated slavery or simply outsourced it. How many of goods today are produced in countries with near appalling labor conditions.
@AbuWyatt
@AbuWyatt Жыл бұрын
@@TomWilson-sy4jo yes, EVERYONE in the South is a giant monolith with the same opinion across the tens of millions. Obviously slavery was one of several factors, but acting like it was the sole reason for everyone involved, despite contemporary primary sources to the contrary, is either lazy or intentionally deceptive to justify the cost to the Union in blood and treasure. Try telling an Iraq War veteran that they were fighting for oil, or tell a Vietnam vet that his buddies died because they wanted to provide greater profits to the military industrial complex, and you'll quickly get a feel of how terrible of an argument you're making. Remember that the greatest prize of any war victory is getting to write the history books.
@TomWilson-sy4jo
@TomWilson-sy4jo Жыл бұрын
@@AbuWyatt You are of course correct my use of everyone is incorrect. I was simply agreeing with your previous point that their is a popular opinion that people who supported the Union cause where for racial equality and another popular held belief that slavery was a minor role in the South Seceding and both are incorrect. I would argue that in the case of the Civil War we have a rare case where history was written by both the winners and losers which is why we have these wildly differing perspectives above. Individuals had multiple reasons for joining the North and South and I suspect many of their reasons were more practical than slavery or preserving the Union. They likely involved things like honor, preserving the status quo, protecting their families, or they were drafted.
@AbuWyatt
@AbuWyatt Жыл бұрын
​@@TomWilson-sy4jo Spread the word.
@haroldcampbell3337
@haroldcampbell3337 Жыл бұрын
This conversation is much too nuanced and intelligent for the KZbin comment section.
@thomasbarca9297
@thomasbarca9297 Жыл бұрын
It’s funny that all the southern people who fought for the north were from Virginia
@dsxa918
@dsxa918 Жыл бұрын
Have you never heard of West Virginia?
@mnhsty
@mnhsty Жыл бұрын
Except for the ones from Georgia, Kentucky, Tennessee, Texas, North Carolina, Louisiana, Florida and Missouri.
@thomasbarca9297
@thomasbarca9297 Жыл бұрын
Yeah I have family members who fought on both sides of the war
@TruthFiction
@TruthFiction Жыл бұрын
For every southern officer who turned against the United States, 3 remained loyal and fought against them. Even most of R.E. Lee's relatives were fighting against him, not with him.
@althesmith
@althesmith Жыл бұрын
"@@TruthFiction "When I find the word "Virginia" on my commission, then I'll fight for the Confederacy." - Samuel Phillips Lee.
@Idahoguy10157
@Idahoguy10157 Жыл бұрын
Was Major General John Buford left out for a reason?
@TomWilson-sy4jo
@TomWilson-sy4jo Жыл бұрын
Buford was from Kentucky(as was Abraham Lincoln) while a slave state, it was not part of the Confederacy
@Idahoguy10157
@Idahoguy10157 Жыл бұрын
@@TomWilson-sy4jo … Kentucky had two state governments simultaneously. Plus was under federal occupation.
@alandjenkins
@alandjenkins Жыл бұрын
The narrator keeps saying “Calvary” - it’s “Cavalry”!
@VinceNeil-sg9nq
@VinceNeil-sg9nq Жыл бұрын
Got to check your facts again, Winfield Scott did not join the Union Army at the War of 1812 he joined the United States Army. United States Army did not identify itself as the Union Army till the Civil War after the War the Union Army again reverted to the title of the United States Army.
@triandfit1
@triandfit1 Жыл бұрын
A little nit picky but it’s “cavalry” not Calvary.
@ericdelong4227
@ericdelong4227 19 күн бұрын
Nicely put together -- though with one GLARING omission: You should never have left out Farragut's epic victory at the Battle of Mobile Bay in August 1864. The phrase "Damn the Torpedoes!" stems from his battle cry after the ironclad Tecumseh struck a floating mine and sunk in moments. Rather than veer away from the minefield -- which would put the invading fleet directly under the deadly guns of Fort Morgan -- Farragut is reputed to issue a "four bells" (i.e. full speed ahead) and his Hartford led the fleet safely through the minefield. (fortunately, most of the "mines" had become inert due to their primers corroding from long exposure to the salt water)
@davidharrison9772
@davidharrison9772 8 ай бұрын
In fact all West Point graduates swore on their honor as men and soldiers to defend the US Union. Those who went with their state's failed to honor this pledge. Those who stayed with the Union, kept their honor.
@ValerieGriner
@ValerieGriner 8 ай бұрын
Those who fought for the Confederacy were UPHOLDING certain inalienable RIGHTS of the CONSTITUTION...like STATES" RIGHTS! Do your homework.
@baneofbanes
@baneofbanes 4 ай бұрын
@@ValerieGrinerthe Confederacy fought for slavery. They said so themselves. The Confederacy didn’t give a shit about rights.
@nickroberts-xf7oq
@nickroberts-xf7oq 3 ай бұрын
I know this wasn't a complete list, but don't forget Wm. P. Sanders. 🇺🇸 The fort which would be renamed in his honor is where Longstreet lost 800+ men in only 20 minutes, against General Ambrose Burnside, just 10 days after President Lincoln gave the Gettysburg Address ! 🎩 📜 ⛓️ 🇺🇸 🗽 ⚖️ 🐴
@mikelshort9150
@mikelshort9150 Ай бұрын
I spent a summer working at Perryville. Ive stood where Terrel was killed by an exploding confederate shell. He was leading a counter attack to retake a hill called parson's ridge. Also his father put on the graves of his two sons, "Only god will know who was right."
@ValerieGriner
@ValerieGriner 8 ай бұрын
The word is CA-VAL-RY, not "Calvary!" Calvary is where Jesus Christ was crucified! CA-VAL-RY...please get this right!
@SeamusMcGillicuddy0
@SeamusMcGillicuddy0 Жыл бұрын
God Bless, Gen. Bill T. Sherman. He did an excellent clean up of the Nectarine 🍑 State, back in 18 & 64. 🇺🇸🇺🇸
@mikethebike2456
@mikethebike2456 Жыл бұрын
🛵 Really low quality crass humor as an attempt to argue with someone in a different state. An embarrassment to any comment section.
@burdine26.120
@burdine26.120 9 ай бұрын
Winfield Scott was what, what, what?? You say Winfield Scott was the top "Union" general in the Mexican War? What a disappointing disgrace to social media research and scholarship. You're kidding, right? Help us readers of your content. Please. You're saying that there was such a thing as a Union general during the Mexican War? You're saying that the Union and the Confederacy existed at the time of the Mexican War? You're saying that Winfield Scott was a "Union" general during the Mexican War? Seriously? How much work exactly did you put into creating this content? Please be honest. Did you happen to ask any Andrew Jackson historians before you jumped to conclusions to announce to the world? Did you even research any definitive or creditable historical source work on Andrew Jackson and his views on this Union? Let's be clear for all of your viewers who depend on YOU for honest and historically believable and accurate content, OK? For them and the rest of us, it's about balance, facts, credibility, believability, and non-AI, real-live human, shoe leather research. Si? Right? To be clear in the face of your head-shaking post, there were no "Union" or "Confederate" generals during the Mexican War. They all served under the United States of America to uphold the Constitution of the United States of America (not the Confederacy). Y ou know that, right? They all wore blue uniforms during the Mexican War, right? You know that, are we correct? In the Mexican American War, you're not saying that some soldiers wore blue uniforms and some wore gray uniforms, right? Or are you claiming otherwise, and that the rest of the evidence-based research world is wrong on that? You've read the U.S. Constitution and 14th amendment Section 3, correct? Summary. Your conclusion as stated in our video, regretfully, clearly oversimplifies and distorts history that it is so staggering as to deprive reasonable people of the clear opportunity for clear thinking. Instead, in my opinion it appears to give your readers the illogical alternative of surrendering evidence-based, well-reasoned thinking to soupy Confederacy brain fog based on the impossible notion that a system based on the buying and selling of human beings based on color, is OK. You can't really believe this, right? Have you ever heard of the battle of Buena Vista and General Zachary Taylor's undefeated record? Did you ever inquire as to why Polk chose Winfield Scott to advance from Vera Cruz to Mexico City instead of Taylor? Did you ever think about inquiring about whether Santa Anna was more worried about General Winfield Scott or General Zachary Taylor? Why did he even decide to redirect Mexican troops from Scott to instead send troops to attempt to defeat Taylor? Did you ever even venture to research James Polk and how he was threatened by Taylor's repeated and undefeated successes even after Polk stripped most of Taylor's army and transferred it (including U.S. Grant) to General Winfield Scott because he was petrified that Taylor was becoming more famous than him because of his victories on the battlefields of Mexico?? Please remind us all. Was it General Winfield Scott or was it General Zachary Taylor whose successes in the Mexican War led to them to becoming President of the U.S.? I don't recall Winfield Scott ever winning the Presidency, nor to I ever recalling him successfully facing that odds that Taylor faced at the battle of Buena Vista. Was it not Taylor who drew away the mass of Santa Anna's forces from Scott's Mexico City target only to lose to Taylor leaving Scott to face weaker forces? You may want to go back and check in with historians and with U.S. Grant biographers to rethink your #1 absolutist conclusions about Scott vs. Taylor. Please. Let's make your channel about facts and history instead of just about making money. Advertising revenue is better when it is merited by respect, and the weight of solid research, history, evidence, and facts. Please don't take this personally. Instead it is an appeal to not be lazy you to aspire to the higher standards of integrity over the seductions of KZbin and Google Adwords
@nickroberts-xf7oq
@nickroberts-xf7oq 3 ай бұрын
One more comment: Snow grass Hill, where Thomas made his stand allowing the Union Army to redeploy after Chickamauga, is really awesome to see. 👀 The whole battlefield is actually a wonderful experience !
@chriswharton
@chriswharton Жыл бұрын
An excellent video.
@uncletiggermclaren7592
@uncletiggermclaren7592 15 күн бұрын
The title ought to have been "Southern Generals who were not traitors". Concise and true.
@talleman1
@talleman1 Жыл бұрын
That battle footage is from the Antietam documentary I worked on many years ago.
@MassachusettsTrainVideos1136
@MassachusettsTrainVideos1136 Жыл бұрын
That is really cool.
@indrajitgupta3280
@indrajitgupta3280 Жыл бұрын
Fascinating. Only heard of Farragut.
@jackzimmer6553
@jackzimmer6553 Жыл бұрын
Very good presentation but mounted troops are CA-VAL-RY. Sorry…just a pet peeve of mine.
@ValerieGriner
@ValerieGriner 8 ай бұрын
It's a pet peeve of mine, too, and about 90% of people mispronounce this word. UGH!!! CA-VAL-RY!!!
@Angie-GoneSoon
@Angie-GoneSoon 4 ай бұрын
I was wondering, besides those who faught for the union cause of ending slavery, how many southerners sided with the Union, and were against slavery?
@baneofbanes
@baneofbanes 4 ай бұрын
Sided with the Union? A significant minority. Over a hundred thousand white southerners from the states that seceded fought for the Union in the civil war, and thousands more form the southern states that didn’t secede fought for the Union.
@mistahjaybevins7619
@mistahjaybevins7619 10 ай бұрын
It’s called propaganda.
@EdwardArmstrong-y3f
@EdwardArmstrong-y3f 4 ай бұрын
Great video These men make the right side of history.!!! No man or woman should ever held a slave .!!! Thank you General Grant May you rest in power .!!!
@volkerkelm9638
@volkerkelm9638 Жыл бұрын
Fascinating, but background music sucks really. Very distracting.
@bchristian85
@bchristian85 Жыл бұрын
These are the people that statues should be built for, not the Confederate traitors.
@robertrochester403
@robertrochester403 Жыл бұрын
I suppose it took integrity.But they must have had a hard time trying to go back home as traitors!
@mjscorn7943
@mjscorn7943 Жыл бұрын
Interesting history, poorly delivered.
@jamesbell1707
@jamesbell1707 Жыл бұрын
What about General John Bufford.
@schuberttim
@schuberttim Жыл бұрын
Just the term "remained loyal to their home states" is a term for traitors. Loyalty would have meant remaining in the U.S. Army. Putting your state ahead of your oath to your country is simply traitorous.
@edwardgleeson850
@edwardgleeson850 Жыл бұрын
Bad music.
@ShadowDragonGT
@ShadowDragonGT Жыл бұрын
Shouldn’t have let any confederate soldiers go and gave them all 6 foot graves
@kennethzullick6897
@kennethzullick6897 Жыл бұрын
Maybe someone should do the same for you
@mikethebike2456
@mikethebike2456 Жыл бұрын
🛵 Keyboard warriors in their underwear sure are brave and bold these days. With burger flipping experience behind them, they issue dictates about how things should have been done long before they were born.🎙️
@jamesbeyer
@jamesbeyer Жыл бұрын
@@mikethebike2456keyboard? I type on an iPhone. You poor bastard. No literally, you must be poor if you’re using a keyboard.
@Wyliecoy0te
@Wyliecoy0te Жыл бұрын
Why do so people in the comments think John Buford should be on the list? Nobody born in a border state, especially Kentucky, should be included on a list like this. Besides, Buford moved to Illinois as a child, if he deserves to be on this list then so does Lincoln.
@samright4661
@samright4661 Жыл бұрын
Robert E Lee never ever owned a Slave . Grant did
@vehx9316
@vehx9316 10 ай бұрын
can you stop lying please.
@samright4661
@samright4661 10 ай бұрын
@@vehx9316 I’m not lying learn facts
@vehx9316
@vehx9316 10 ай бұрын
@@samright4661 Robert E lee owned slaves you dumdfuck. Meanwhile Grant freed the only slave he ever own when he was dead broke. Go and read a book you idiot.
@aaronfleming9426
@aaronfleming9426 8 ай бұрын
Lee came from a slave owning family, which gave him the socio-economic status to get a place at West Point. He later inherited about 10 slaves when his mother died.
@samright4661
@samright4661 8 ай бұрын
@@aaronfleming9426 Lie more
@robertrafford6068
@robertrafford6068 Жыл бұрын
Well Virginia is a democratic state. Land of laws.
@jasoncampos2933
@jasoncampos2933 8 ай бұрын
Virginia lead the south kept the south alive for 5 years! Without Virginia the confederacy wouldn’t have lasted that long
@baneofbanes
@baneofbanes 4 ай бұрын
@@jasoncampos2933buddy virginia was the only region the confederacy was doing alright in.
@jasoncampos2933
@jasoncampos2933 4 ай бұрын
@@baneofbanes well exactly, Virginia has always been better compared to other southern states
@AWFULWORKPLACES
@AWFULWORKPLACES Жыл бұрын
God Bless those who fought for The Confederate Army
@RonnieG
@RonnieG Жыл бұрын
They weren't blessed. They lost.
@dougerrohmer
@dougerrohmer Жыл бұрын
Why bless the dudes who are in the moral swamp. "I gotta pertect ma property, even if it is other people who I can whip at will!"
@thomaswatson1739
@thomaswatson1739 Жыл бұрын
@RonnieG so the losing side in wars are automatically wrong? What sort of cave man logic is this ?
@thomaswatson1739
@thomaswatson1739 Жыл бұрын
@dougerrohmer considering you let your wife get rammed by black men I wouldn’t expect you to understand the want to protect your property
@ShadowDragonGT
@ShadowDragonGT Жыл бұрын
@@thomaswatson1739they lost a war to keep people as property
@lianefehrle9921
@lianefehrle9921 Жыл бұрын
Some people might like this content but to me it brings nothing but bad feelings about the past.
@RonnieG
@RonnieG Жыл бұрын
Why so?
@JonBrown-po7he
@JonBrown-po7he Жыл бұрын
​@@RonnieG'Probably because he sympathizes with the southern traitors.
@timdelph2747
@timdelph2747 Жыл бұрын
It is history.
@charleschauffe5884
@charleschauffe5884 Жыл бұрын
I will always consider them traitors to the South. The Southern States succeeded from the Union, at that point they became a separate country. It was the Northern States that invaded the Confederate States of America, which makes the North the aggressor. The winners write the history, but that does not mean the 'good guys' won. The Southern States were justified in their reasons for leaving the oppression of the Northern States. And I know the young, uninformed, will bring up slavery as they have been told by their propaganda education, but that was a small issue in the basis of leaving the United States.
@mikethebike2456
@mikethebike2456 Жыл бұрын
🛵 It truly is propaganda education. Soon it will be called 'The All About Slavery War'. I'm not joking. The ugly truths are covered up, and the ugly truth is neither North nor South cared enough about the s word to fight over it. It took taxes and tariffs on Southern products to start a war.
@jamesbeyer
@jamesbeyer Жыл бұрын
The true traitors were the ones that betrayed the country, and tried to secede. That’s not how democracies work. You don’t just revolt every time things don’t go your way. The revolutionaries were the true traitors. They betrayed the UNITED states by dividing it.
@DArcher1999
@DArcher1999 Жыл бұрын
Congratulations on writing the stupidest thing I've read all day. The Confederates attacked American arsenals and started the war by bombarding Fort Sumter. The Confederates alone are to bla.e and slavery was a HUGE reason for the Confederates going to war. Way to whitewash history because you're butthurt that the Confederates were on the wrong side of history, started the war, and lost...decisively.
@TruthFiction
@TruthFiction Жыл бұрын
Yeah, so oppressed that the first time a president was elected that wouldn't kiss their asses they had to start a war.
@tmbarton1961
@tmbarton1961 Жыл бұрын
Slavery was the main reason why the Southern states seceded from the Union. It was foremost written in their Secession documents. It was the Southern states who were oppressing African Americans, Northerners and all Abolitionists. Southerners were able to pass the Fugitive Slave Act of 1850 which deputized all American citizens to help capture and return escaped slaves to their owners. Those who helped escaped slaves faced a $1000 fine, six months in jail, and possible charges of treason. After the Civil War, Southerners developed the "Lost Cause" theory to explain their side of the war and the Daughters of the Confederacy spread this toxic theory in school textbooks about the history of the Civil War. This theory promoted the fraudulent argument that Southern states were fighting for the rights of all states to determine if they should be slave or free states. Most of the New England states had abolished slavery before the beginning of the 19th century, so the "Lost Cause" theory was bunk from the beginning. The secession documents by South Carolina and the other seceding states prominently stated that slavery was the main reason why they were leaving the Union.
@osbornvonpulaski1642
@osbornvonpulaski1642 Жыл бұрын
Cavalryman, NOT "Calvaryman". Silly robot voice actor.
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