Southern vs Bethune-Cookman | 5th Quarter 2023

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[@dgyeb]

IDGAF what nuna-yue mufuckas talking bout, Cookman came through and sounded Great!!! Southern did too!!! Two thumbs up to both bands! DaRock pumping straight boulders with 14 tubas. Cookman got so much power just playing in the pocket with control and tone. Imagine if Mr. Wells let Cookman off the leash frfr. Not biased just cause I played tuba at Cookman. Southern damn shole brought that shit!! Cookman damn shole did too. Just two different styles with same intensity!!! DaRock always go be deep, dark, and solid!!!

[@TQO81]

Aww you know you are lying right lol

[@victoriabostick2935]

Yes cookman did sound great during the 5th quarter. Always quality sound as usual. Now southern was LOUD and thats about it. Most swac bands sound tinney. Way too much brass and u cant tell the difference between the different brass instruments 🤷🏽‍♀️

[@mceasermcmc]

​​@@victoriabostick2935that's so done as a comment now because of what was played . All was heard yall need to cease on that loud crap, and learn the difference between loud and power. That's totally losing arguments now.

[@seanphillips648]

@@victoriabostick2935Saying SU was just loud is just blatant ignorance and bias. They showcased control, dynamics, and balance on My Funny Valentine. BCU has always had one of the most pristine sound signatures among all HBCUs. However, that sound can only do so much with a limited playbook. This is exactly why BCU will continue to lose battles. Terrible song selection, and an ancient book.

[@victoriabostick2935]

@@seanphillips648 long way from ignorant baby. Just as u think its getting tiresome for us to say that your band plays loud blaring tinney and sounds just like the other swac bands it means nothing when u say we play the same songs. Just as long as we play the hell out of them and still sound phenomenal.

[@knowledgeincubator]

OMG! Southern’s tubas are a vibe!!! Just damn amazing (6:18)!!!🔥💛🔥💙#beastsoftheSOUTHERNwild🔥💛🔥💙🔥

[@yogeedough56]

Aye!!! Southern 🔥🔥🔥 Funny Valentine's, Omg the pens on that One was spectacular! The performance was brilliantly done! 👏🏽 B-C showed up and was amazing as well.🔥🎶

[@jyd4327]

I love BCU but I wanted to hear SU band and I heard every instrument on the field and 5th quarter…. My Valentine WOW……

[@cj9160]

Su 🔥🔥🔥 wish they could’ve played 3 more songs

[@olankidd1324]

I would have enjoyed another 10 minutes! Both bands were good.

[@rebeccaalfredbowles9773]

Let’s go Jukebox! My valentine! Yes!

[@Mr3236101]

Coming from a BCU Alumni THANK YOU Mr. Wells for letting that one trumpet player scream. Bless your heart.😊

[@derre11_]

💪🏽

[@rashadjones]

We all know BCU has players and we all know who holding them back. It's kinda sad at this point.

[@j_y06]

That’s what I said

[@Mr3236101]

@@rashadjones it's time to get those SWAC hours

[@samuelelite123]

Facts 😂

[@Princess201188]

Geaux JAGS!!!! Human Jukebox!!! 💙💛💙💛

[@honestsagittarius4566]

I really hate this years football schedule 🙁😒it’s like we’re getting all lame schools and nobody to battle

[@cj9160]

That’s why it seems so off , I’m use to them playing jsu around this time or Alcorn

[@honestsagittarius4566]

@@cj9160 yes this is really the most boring year ever I’m really hating this

[@Bigdreamer82]

SU and JSU this year was off the charts

[@BandHeadChris]

Ok it’s time for BCU to get a whole new Band Staff👀😳🤷🏾‍♂️… It gets worst by the year🤦🏾‍♂️ sound great but that’s it🥺

[@cdaway2024]

NAH, THAT DIDN'T EVEN SOUND GREAT. BCU IS TURNING INTO CENTRAL STATE RIGHT INFRONT OF OUR EYES. GLAD ED REED SHED LIGHT ON THAT SCHOOL TOO. IF FINANCIAL FRAUD WAS A SCHOOL, BCU WOULD BE IT. THEY NEED TO BE AUDITED ASAP.😏

[@DistrictOfCrankage]

After that My Funny Valentine Taylor could’ve signaled for the band to put their Shakos on because it was a 1st round TKO! 🥊

[@jacktwnboss601]

Shit was trash

[@deemanDavid]

BCU sounded good and Fein had watts. Sure, SU got the power, but I was more surprised by Cookman. jukebox still gets the W though

[@keystheproducer9183]

1st Round TKO 🥊 💨💨💨💨💨 SU trumpets ate 🎺!! SU put paws on dem boyz bad 🤦🏽‍♂️😂

[@lukelucas8112]

" OFTEN IMITATED NEVER DUPLICATED " THE HUMAN JUKEBOX 🎼 ✌🏿

[@xtralitt560]

Are you inferring BCU imitates southern ? That’s wild and I’m not a fan of either 😂😂

[@lukelucas8112]

@xtralitt560 Not only just BCU, any other band... Congratulations that ur not a fan....1 less SUCKER we have to worry about...Hats off to u👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿

[@xtralitt560]

@@lukelucas8112 lmaooo how does bcu copy southern ?

[@lukelucas8112]

@xtralitt560 Wow...no worries that went over ur head...... 🤭🤭🤭🤭🤭🤭🤭🤭🤭🤭🤭🤭😴😴🤭🤭🤭🤭🤭🤭🤭

[@TSCOTT-oz5vy]

That Jukebox hit different 📻🎼🎵💪🏿💯(SU🐆)

[@jceza7947]

Let's Go!!! 💙💛💙💛💪🏾

[@chemist8897]

My Funny Valentine sealed the deal. Nothing else needed to be played. BCU sounded good but why only songs to cater to low vibrational band heads? Where is the BCU that played MUSIC and focused on their arranging and sound strenghts?

[@columbusindianaphilharmoni8486]

That band is dead and gone

[@columbusindianaphilharmoni8486]

Some weird shift happened after 2015, they were extremely aggressive when they battled Talladega in 2015 then I heard the band again in 2021 and that was NOT the same band AT ALL.

[@byronshipp3454]

Oh you wanted them to play Ice Cream man. Stop with this like yall play complex arrangements or something.

[@chemist8897]

Uhhh...no. But they plenty of Porter hits in the book. Stairway to Heaven maybe?!? They have so many songs that they could have presented.

[@woodsoncircle]

Jukebox for life.

[@jolandaallen5866]

Southern slaying 😅😊

[@jasonsan9517]

SU for the easy W! Light work!

[@manniefreh]

Now Wayment BCU Blew that FEIGN! 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@cj9160]

That was dry air 😂

[@honestsagittarius4566]

@@cj9160😂😂😂

[@awiggins5588]

JUkes💨🔥💪

[@BushrodMusic]

the 5th qtr. opening tune by the SU HJB sealed the deal. #nocompetition #topshelf

[@FknGvna]

Hands down, I'm all in my emotions, damn the rest of the vid lol

[@DajournoTF]

Drake?? Really Bethune, Why???

[@honestsagittarius4566]

BCU better be lucky this battle didn’t continue on

[@lala-ng7cc]

Southern took it, but I I pray for better songs next week plz. 😩

[@cj9160]

They will , but these 2 songs was 🔥 they can play them against txsu and they already got a big L

[@cj9160]

@@grindaholic8088they are competition so can’t look at them like they sorry .

[@snobbypolitics7792]

14K was JAMMIN!!! 😂🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@beereal8623]

And was!! I really wanted to see them battle stings this year. People sleep on 14k

[@internationallyknown92duva69]

Ate the dolls up in the stands and field tbh

[@theinstructor3626]

Juke all day...Is there really any questions.

[@margieadams9327]

SU ❤❤❤

[@brandenmusic2024]

SU 🔥💯💪🏾

[@TonyaWilliams-e6r]

I just Love The Jukebox " The Standard

[@hperd1]

The standard for what? Blaring sound, no musicality. It’s no wonder they have no balls.

[@honestsagittarius4566]

@@hperd1😂😂😂so you didn’t hear BCU upper brass sounding like dookie juice? Then they responded to a musical peace played by the jukes with a rap tune so how are you talking shit right now I’m just so confused 🫤

[@jheht2000]

I’m still trying to see what they selling to these kids to want to play for BCU. The book is stale and they don’t travel. Those are two things outside of the program’s pedigree to want to join. So what they selling because I can’t see how they keep numbers. 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@victoriabostick2935]

Dont worry bout what we selling as long as they are there and sound good

[@jheht2000]

@@victoriabostick2935 I see why y’all were in the news months ago. Y’all are fine with the “As is”. It’s no way I could attend an institution nor a band org that is so resistant to change & growth.

[@keystheproducer9183]

@@victoriabostick2935but no lie yall don’t sound good definitely not in comparison to SU!! Let alone BCU chops was blown by the end of the first tune!! 😴 💤

[@armondwilson8630]

Why was this game in Jacksonville? It looks empty

[@fabionwilson6992]

I thought I would never see the day when SU is bigger than BCU ! BCU you really need a new staff out with the old in with the new

[@treymitchell4090]

We good with Dr.Wells and it's all boils down to scholarship money.

[@Downfield1992]

Size doesn't matter that only matters to the BCU. They sound bad you got that many people in your bed and you sound like that y'all never need to leave the state

[@TheTeamIsSHaRP]

Dr. Wells and the staff is not going anywhere. The people he needs to satisfy are happy.

[@cj9160]

This both of their travel band

[@SupaLaya]

What?? A new staff? Gtfoh

[@puttinyadown]

I hope SU holding back the book for TXSU. Funny Valentine is great but let’s be real, they gotta have more than that in the chamber.

[@HBCUBandTalk]

Both bands did a great job. Although this was a short fifth quarter, hopefully folks will get off of Cookman’s book!!! I’m not sure why it was so short, the stadium gave them 45 minutes.

[@Lregofins34]

I’m in my mid 30s and cookman has had the same book since I was in high school 😢

[@jayperk5021]

Yea Cookman doesn’t play long when it comes to 5th quarters for whatever reason. I know from watching the Florida Classic.

[@forddreamsdofly546]

@@Lregofins34Dude, that’s not just a Cookman thing. Most schools play the same music 50% of the time.

[@kroticjordan3910]

Man did Bethune even try???

[@ivorydavis5941]

Back row those three Soija Haley & Jam OMFG YES YES flowers roses WTH ever !!!! That was my focus.....

[@AFLive]

Why SU leave so Early ?? I know BCU was gone play the same ole songs but still . . .

[@Phin_Again]

Apparently was told by the stadium staff. Sucks but oh well

[@mceasermcmc]

Nfl stadium different rules

[@derrickpannell3316]

First KO!!!! “Down goes BCU!”

[@cj9160]

I see some dummies on here trying talk down on Su , if you don’t like Su why you on this video ? They doing something good to have y’all come back to every video they post and say the same shit lol

[@quegolfer]

What’s the first song SU played

[@DScott2010]

My funny valentine

[@maureencora1]

Bethune-Cookman University, Wildcats Wonderland, Florida. (smile)

[@drequynnrod5077]

This stadium allows 15 mins and go from outside bands!!!!!! But both of them sound good!!!

[@jyd4327]

BCU please straighten those lines during the time the band director was directing, on that left side the clarinets were, it was very crooked….Where are all the Tuba players? Something is a little off this year… Please please have something ready for us classic 2023

[@Gnosis639]

I swear BCU dance just as much as they play their horns lol

[@Lregofins34]

They play they same songs since 2000 gotta entertain in other ways lol

[@malkieljudah2073]

😂 I can’t believe drake was bcu answer to my funny valentine 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@bigslab8824]

🗣

[@Gnosis639]

As good as they are on the field they are one of the worst 5th quarter bands. Not only do they have a terrible book they don't know how to respond to other bands appropriately. Drake??? Smh.

[@Downfield1992]

It's sad the BCU doesn't leave FL

[@RussellSmith-p8k]

Hey bro what u mean? BCU band doesnt travel?

[@jermainehenry7268]

@@RussellSmith-p8k they don’t travel anywhere near what they use to before covid

[@joshuawadley2055]

@@RussellSmith-p8knot really that can’t afford it

[@jabarib.8708]

That part. At least FAMU travel

[@hillerybell3983]

​@@RussellSmith-p8kwhy not

[@Rnbease]

It’s time

[@MrYendor28]

Well that was nice 🙄

[@nathanlivingston6130]

cudos to both bands but SU takes the W BCU need to come with a new book and new arrangements

[@TheRealTruth06]

Meanwhile both songs BCU played were new to the book. The comments are the true broken record 🥱🥱

[@timothybrooks5921]

Why only 2 songs each? SU had to get back?

[@dewalt24walton8]

BCU sounds really weird this year to me.

[@cdaway2024]

HOLD UP WAIT A MINUTE.🤨 SO FAMU NO SHOWS IN BATON ROUGE BUT THE JUKE GOES TO ALL THE WAY TO FLORIDA FOR A 10MIN 5TH QTR?🤔 PLEASE MAKE THAT MAKE SENSE.

[@yagrandmacrib]

TIAA Bank stadium only allowed a 15min 5th

[@cdaway2024]

@@yagrandmacrib AND HERE'S THE QUESTION YA'LL KEEP DODGING. WHY DOESN'T BCU HAVE GAMES AT THEIR OWN CAMPUS FACILITIES? 🤔THEY GOT $33MILLION DOLLARS LAST YEAR & THEY DIDN'T SPEND IT ON CAMPUS IMPROVEMENTS AT ALL. WE, IN THE REAL WORLD HASN'T FORGOT ABOUT THE STUDENT PROTEST ABOUT CAMPUS CONDITIONS & ADMINISTRATIVE FRAUD. FIND ANOTHER ONE, THAT DOG DON'T HUNT IN THESE WOODS.😏

[@ErnestoMann-f3j]

Well that’s Bethune cookman

[@vallegal24]

It’s been explained already why FAMU didn’t travel to Baton Rouge… simply put, they were being pet-tee. The better question is why are you speaking on FAMU in every other comment?!

[@cdaway2024]

@@vallegal24 IT'S CALLED THE COMMENT SECTION BOZO. YOU MAD?🤡 🤣🤣🤣

[@cordneym]

Jukebox should have saved money and not attended this game. Bethune band is repugnant, and never travels to any of their away games!

[@cj9160]

I agree

[@internationallyknown92duva69]

It’s not their fault its the schools budgeting they would love to travel I’m sure they can’t right now

[@CynOfficial36]

Y'all had to get back on the road huh? Is that why the 5th was so short?

[@cj9160]

NAwl that had something doing with the stadium , they said they can only play 2 songs.

[@CynOfficial36]

@@cj9160 ok! That sucked! At least Duval got to experience the Juke!

[@TheCocoshanell]

SU is never going that far and not staying overnight.. Nice try, thou!

[@lukelucas8112]

Naaaah it's was no competition, it was over before it started

[@CynOfficial36]

@TheCocoshanell Lol...Just so you know...I'ma a DIE HARD Jukebox fan. Born and raised in Louisiana. I asked that question because that was the shortest 5th i've ever seen, but someone explained why they had to leave early!

[@JohnDavis-ix7hu]

I knew BC would come back sounding goofy🤨

[@The190647]

SU make bands quit doing the game and the 5th they know what's coming and how it will end. BCU smdh

[@victoriabostick2935]

I sure hope u r kidding. Southern did nothing but win the FOOTBALL GAME. Dont flex bout your band. I will say it again blaring loud for no reason and cant tell the difference between a baritone and a trumpet sound

[@seanphillips648]

@@victoriabostick2935Just say your hearing is impaired. That would make you sound less like a fool.

[@victoriabostick2935]

@@seanphillips648 im not the fool and it damn sure aint nothing wrong with my hearing. I guess u can hear all too well with those wrong out of tune notes yall played and had the nerve to travel to duval with that mess. Shut up and sit down

[@toreyakers6553]

We all no why it was short

[@EricCoke-j1d]

True BCU have a small music book and need to add more up to date songs to their book, but honestly they sound good as hell... SU sounds good at times without the blasting because you can clearly hear some wrong notes and it comes from trying to hit those high ass notes, once you get that blasting under control then SU would definitely be something to recon with. We can also argue about how SU field shows are horrible so both bands have their flaws...

[@honestsagittarius4566]

BCU has no upper brass presence once so ever …you can’t possibly try and play on SU sound

[@EricCoke-j1d]

@@honestsagittarius4566 BCU is balanced all around SU has nothing but brass not much woodwinds to balance the sound all you hear is brass 🤷🏾‍♂🤷🏾‍♂🤷🏾‍♂

[@honestsagittarius4566]

@@EricCoke-j1d at least we can hear all the instruments and we have plenty of music where our woodwind shine…can’t say the same about BCU all we hear are trombones and btones ..yall woodwind we’re nearly non existent also in these videos so let’s not go there …balance my ass

[@MusicManC]

what was this baby 5th come om 2 songs so trash but SU with the W 4 me.

[@cdaway2024]

SU SHOULD'VE BEEN REIMBURSED THEIR TRAVEL EXPENSES FOR COMING ALL THAT WAY FOR A 2RD 5TH QTR. BOY WHEN GOD GETS READY TO RAIN DAMN KARMA & JUSTICE. THESE SCHOOLS ARE ROBBING THE HELL OUTTA THESE KIDS. 😏

[@cj9160]

That football stadium rule is dumb , should’ve let them play 4 songs

[@cdaway2024]

@@cj9160 ASK YOURSELF WHY BCU DOESN'T PLAY THEIR HOME GAMES ON CAMPUS. THEY NEED TO BE AUDITED IMMEDIATELY BUT YOU CAN'T HOLD HBCUS ACCOUNTABLE BECAUSE THAT'S RACIST OR YOU'RE A SELLOUT IF YOU BRING THAT UP LET THE OLD HBCU HEADS TELL IT. ED REED & COACH PRIME EXPOSED EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT HBCUS.😏

[@DatBoiLow4]

The audacity to play Fe!N BCU 😅😅

[@damionjohnson6838]

Man they need to put the swac according to the bands instead of east vs west txsu jsu su ala st flo am and corn and the rest battle cuz this been a bad year for swac just my opinion disappointed bandhead good job su

[@Kurrency1911]

Worse 5th I’ve seen in awhile … we all lose with this one

[@jarriedwilson7809]

Them tubas weak

[@keithyounger9397]

I think you better let it go, the H.G.B. Hit B.C.? with an early T.K.O!!!

[@gainzwillbemade9890]

They could of played 2 more songs man SU trippin every since the JSU game.

[@504shel11]

Not su, it was something with the stadium

[@trk327]

That's a NFL stadium. When they tell you your event is over, it's over because the team isn't paying overtime to the stadium staff.

[@JUKEBOX09]

It’s better to be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt

[@Reaching_Nirvana]

​@@JUKEBOX09That's a crazy statement mind if I steal that from ya 😅

[@gainzwillbemade9890]

@JUKEBOX09 call me names but they different since that L

[@portcitypizzle]

Southern looked unmotivated (understandably) and BCU is just plain boring..😢

[@columbusindianaphilharmoni8486]

Even though I played tuba at Cookman, I’m not pleased at all…..idk what this is but this ain’t the same PRIDE I came up in….shit sound so weird

[@Eenke82]

BCU sound great. They clearly won the first round. The second round was Southern's. Both bands are top tier, crème de la crème.

[@himsultan5019]

Eenke82, You’re clearly delusional. Southern’s arrangement was far more complex than what BCU played, and hbd sounded like a collegiate band executing it. BCU’s arrangements are too simple.

[@bayouboy97]

Are you referring to this battle? Maybe you mean a previous SU vs BCU because SU slaughter BCU every single round. SU by 40.

[@keystheproducer9183]

Ain’t no way we watching the same video man 🧐🧐😂🤦🏽‍♂️

[@aaronjones8302]

That Drake song was written for a high school band. 😂

[@keystheproducer9183]

@@aaronjones8302 facts!! What they tlkn about? 🤣

[@SupaLaya]

It’s a draw to me. I’m just saying. Cookman was Cookman and Southern was Southern. #freelancer

[@thep3860]

Delusional.....

[@hperd1]

Truth. SU blaring as usual, causing Cookman to overplay trying to match. Nothing special about either. A straight up draw. 🥱

[@lukelucas8112]

Obviously u don't get out much.....🤭🤭🤭🤭🤭🤭🤭🤭🤭

[@partywitjay7573]

Southern being southern is way better than bcu being bcu… you not slick this ain’t no tie 😂

[@SupaLaya]

@@partywitjay7573 y’all be riding SU so hard. They didn’t do nothing special here to be like Wow

[@big_reece8632]

Mane Bethune cooked Su

[@Flavaflav555]

You just a hater bro

[@honestsagittarius4566]

Not even on their best day

[@j.holmes6243]

They did not bro….. and I went BCU and marched in the band as a trombonist. I’m telling you now that SU clearly won this

[@joedavenport5293]

This is the wakeup call BCU needed. They in the SWAC now. Imagine what JSU or TxSU would have done to them.

[@marionmarion6852]

they got slept on by the Juke big time😂😂😂

[@davidcolligan6141]

Sound like u trying to play the juke on the slick like jsu and tsu better wat drugs u on

[@cj9160]

@@davidcolligan6141right

[@treymitchell4090]

Yall screaming su... but bcu sounds better... i can make out their notes better..

[@jasonsan9517]

🤦🏽‍♂️😜😂

[@cj9160]

Mr ice cream man mad they took a L 😂 💛💙

[@Flavaflav555]

Of course you can make those notes out better. They’ve been playing those same notes since 1885 B.C with y’all non book updating azzes.

[@derre11_]

@@Flavaflav555we just got them two songs this year 😂

[@Layla.B_]

Y’all just be wanting to be against southern so bad😭 delusion is one helluva drug…

[@luvhim381]

Snooze… SU should’ve saved that money and not made that trip. But, I understand why they made it.

[@terranceparker8838]

Cookman with the W

[@cj9160]

😂 💙💛

[@Flavaflav555]

Delusion. Get a new book and staff.

[@terranceparker8838]

@@Flavaflav555 learn how to play in tune youngsters

[@josephrobair1371]

@@terranceparker8838are you serious bruh? Like for real! How? Better yet, why?

[@Layla.B_]

Your delusional😂😂😂😂😂

[@Bandhead-gf4ot]

Both bands were boring and dry as heck! So yeah.....

[@Layla.B_]

Southern wasn’t. But yeah…..

[@internationallyknown92duva69]

Actually, they were pretty dry no wow factor or anything and the dolls definitely put us to sleep with that Snooze fest of a performance stand and field wise 😴💤

[@Layla.B_]

@@internationallyknown92duva69 Your big mad😂😂

[@JP-oh6mh]

BCU demonstrated excellence in musicianship. Precision. Not blowing loud. BCU for the win.

[@Flavaflav555]

This argument is tired. SU literally showcased precision and dynamics in their first selection. BCU responded with Over by Drake to My Funny Valentine and you call that good musicianship 😂.

[@JP-oh6mh]

@@Flavaflav555 Not an argument. It's my opinion and I heard what I heard. BCU sounded way better than SU. Period. Go in grace.

[@byronshipp3454]

⁠@@JP-oh6mh SU sounded better with better dynamics and articulation. SU is superior BCU need to do more musically to even compete. SU musicians are more skilled with tone quality and range. Arrangements outclassed BCU book plus BCU had some intonation issues towards the end

[@bluesbros99]

Never thought I’d see the day the juke become a BORING band man. They’ve really took on their directors personalities. Bland if you will. Gone are the days of excitement. Doc directing with force, Mr. J “bringing that mustard”, Knighten directing with elegance, Haymer with the pizazz, and B with the flavor. The truth hurts man. There’s folks out there claiming their “saving the book for txsu”. Well that just shows how much of a threat TXSU has become. It’s been a great run for the “S”, but until major staff changes take place, they’ve officially hit rock bottom.

[@cj9160]

😂 no reason to even respond to this dumb a&$ comment. 😆

[@keystheproducer9183]

Yo ears ok? 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

[@tubaplayer4life667]

Lord jesus, they were only allowed to play 2 songs and now you’re claiming they’ve hit “rock bottom”. Catch a grip on reality. If you hate the way things are now so much, how about YOU go get a masters and start directing for the band 🤷🏾‍♂️.

[@bigrolla6433]

Boy d hate is real what da hell u talking bout and been looking @ lol

[@byronshipp3454]

Your commenting privileges should be taken at this point.

[@jacktwnboss601]

Tie , 1st round juke, 2nd round Bcu