Repeat Business: But You Already Did An Injector!?

In this video I have a look at a customers '14 Jeep Cherokee that has a complaint of SES light on with a misfire. After the diagnosis the customer states that I already replaced the injector! Oh..... did we now 😏
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[@SouthMainAuto]

*Here is the video from a year ago when we diagnosed the same problem* - kzbin.info/www/bejne/jqOUe5KeZtKhncUsi=ones5QeB8p_N19lw *Here is the video of replacing the injector* - kzbin.info/www/bejne/oKbKcquQbcyLpsUsi=Ox6MUCjehjl41Mjx *Sorry for the repeat on the diag. I lose track in my mind of the cars I fix* 🤷🏽‍♂

[@ShainAndrews]

If I remember my name when I wake up.... It's a good day.

[@GregoryMcLean]

Lotsa junk flows through that shop :)

[@peetky8645]

maybe no 1 off only a few cycles because you didn't select 1 from the drop down, just from the baseline screen?

[@jormalonnberg1578]

So? You dont need to keep every vehicle or video in your head, thats why you keep track of them in computer files , problem, diag. repair, and how much $. And you have mrs O in office

[@terrypickette118]

- 👍 👍 🔧 qoᒋ ǝɔᴉN 👀❤🤍💙

[@Mr.Z1776]

It never fails. If the repair requires running the vehicle, the customer will drop it off with hardly any gas. If it's a fuel delivery issue(ie; fuel pump), it will have a full tank of gas.

[@ohiomoto]

haha I was thinking the same thing.

[@michaelearl6991]

Murphy's Law number 73

[@squatchfromearth4076]

@@attilakohbor3360 as a Customer I wouldn't mind at all

[@chevyguy6961]

Regardless the customer is going to be paying for fresh fuel in either circumstance so that the vehicle can be safely test drove, or the fuel pump has a fair chance for survival.

[@ericgunter45]

Yep usually choked full of fuel all the way up to the gas cap.

[@bensmith6051]

I love how someone just ran a couple 1” self tappers to hold that big fuse. It’s a wonder those screws didn’t just sink right into the fuse/relay panel 😂

[@ohiomoto]

I was thinking the same thing. I was expecting a "There's your problem lady! Someone put a screw through your fuse (relay or whatever)". lol

[@Set-it-to-11]

Looks like it could be a fuse for a car stereo amplifier install. Usually those fuses are mounted to a metal plate which uses an existing bolt in the engine compartment. To protect from electrical hazards from the live unfused part of the wire, the fuse should be within about 6 inches of the battery.

[@imrf]

@@Set-it-to-11 Yep, that's exactly what it is. In the beginning of the video you can see the bass knob on the dash.

[@markh.6687]

@@ohiomoto Maybe they were trying to screw it to the fender well. (!)

[@tbyoda9475]

where probably going to see this jeep on just rolled in when it burns down from those screws.

[@DIYDaveOK]

I'd rather watch 100 reruns of your stuff Eric than one of most any current "original" TV show. No joke. Thanks as always, Eric!

[@elcastorgrande]

Classic case of "parts jealousy." Old parts get mad when they are ignored and a new part installed, so they all start going bad.

[@thatdave86]

Murphy's law,or Eric's Law ?

[@taipan8021]

That's a fact

[@slacko1971]

Parts jealousy, I love it, I'm going to steal that phrase thanks.

[@justinwatch]

Wouldnt it be easier to just trim cow hoofs for a living? There's always going to be comebacks but the customers can only moo! 🤣

[@cheesecurd100s]

Gotta deal with bs either way lol

[@Arachnoid_of_the_underverse]

But they also poop a lot too

[@davidjohannson4364]

But from the cows you get a milkshake……

[@mattcat231]

Nate That Hoof Guy and The Hoof GP come to mind here on the Tube, lol

[@anthonydefreitas6006]

@@davidjohannson4364 & Ice cream 🍦

[@sylviaverrill6681]

Can you imagine the hours Eric has spent to learn all the test equipment, and what to look for. This a guy that cares…😊

[@rodx5571]

Dont have to imagine, I have most of it myself. I also have 20+ years in trade. I do often borrow techniques from internet techs like Eric. The scope he is using is 4k or a bit more with accessories. I have 150k or more in my tools as a humble tech. He owns a shop, so triple that. Or maybe more. Its a life long process of learning and collecting.

[@SouthMainAuto]

Just shy of a million in tools, lifts, compressor, alignment machine, shop tools etc....@@rodx5571

[@Micko350]

$150k?! I have around that into my Snap On Box alone!

[@robertnicholson771]

​@Micko350 yeah, but it's only $20 a week!

[@Troy_Built]

I was trying to explain that to someone the other day. The mobile tech I called for him was carrying $65k in tools and scanners in his pickup. No one is going to fix your car for free unless it's a good friend or relative and then dinner's on you. @@rodx5571

[@darrinthefixer]

Hey Eric. In my many years of diagnosing and repairing cars, I have learned to replace injectors as a set, instead of individually, especially when they are labor intense.

[@donniev8181]

Not his car, it's up to the customer.

[@jayjudd6518]

❤ Mr. O made me look. I love it when he is happy you can hear it in his voice. 😊😊😊

[@peterhodgkins6985]

Once again it's proven that there is no substitute for good documentation! The video record is even a better option! Consistency is the name of the game. Another good lesson Mr. O.!

[@advancedleveldiagnostics]

A current clamp is like a USB; you always get it backward on the first try. Great video, thanks for sharing!

[@bwthor]

No, USB is always correct first try, but doesn't to in, then backwards, then correct again and it goes in just fine.

[@advancedleveldiagnostics]

@@bwthor True 🤣

[@The98deville]

That's why there is USB C now lol

[@MrRunner]

Well, how many times have we found a widgit faulty and recommended we replace an entire set (on the assumption that it saves on labour for a certainty of future failures) ? Especially Chrysler. Customer declines. I did a caliper replacement, but was only authorised for that one. Year later, its bro goes. Oh well. Beautifully done Mr. O. Classic Fault Finding. Not only do you have the right equipment, but you know what you are doing. Many mechanics just guess their way through, based on previous.

[@jimrodgers3684]

"Sure as shhhhugar" yes you did! Thanks for finding the original videos.

[@carl4323]

I have noticed that you are now the Gold Standard in Diagnostics. Other you tubers are making the claim that they are solving the issues that Eric couldn't. Congratulations!

[@lactusgalacto1174]

They claim?

[@billg2942]

@@lactusgalacto1174 Yes, they claim. Eric does NOT reprogram module PROMs...that takes specialized equipment, and the other guys have that stuff because that is what they specialize in. Not that he couldn't, he DOESN'T because it makes zero financial sense.

[@TheBry_Guy]

I was typing much the same response but I saw yours. 👍@@billg2942

[@BearMD6571]

A comeback for a different injector is not really a comeback. Love the videos and the thought process - one of the most valuable parts of your channel - and it’s extremely entertaining. Is your humor great? Sure as shhhhhhh sugar - and it’s genuine.

[@JoseMartinez-tc9pr]

Dr. Diagnostic Eric OH my goodness. Almost said the S word but said sugar..amazing restraint..you're a good guy

[@markh.6687]

I'm leaving a criticism of CJDFRWTFBBQ! 7 years old, 140K on the clock, and it's throwing codes and things are broken like it's 20 years old! Nice work Eric O. chasing the trouble down.

[@goodcitizen64]

I had to stop wreching after 2 left shoulder surgeries and 1 right shoulder! I lost so much use from both as well as muscle I couldn't break bolts loose without severe pain. All thanks to 12 years US Army service! Love your channel brother!!!

[@LouJustlou]

I was expecting the 1 1/4 inch screws to be shorting something out. 😊 But hey at least there is a fuse and it's reasonably close to the battery.

[@edchenal821]

You are a patient man. With so many repairs, you can't recollect them all. Keep up the good work. I learn something on each video.

[@AntonioClaudioMichael]

Same vehicle same diag just a different injector atleast the customer knows it will be fixed correctly 16:20 good video as always Eric O @South Main Auto Repair LLC

[@kens.3729]

Just had a Conversation with my brother-in-law yesterday about ALL the Junk Jeep Models that Fiat decided to Produce. Junk equals Repeat Repair Bidnez. 🤪👎.

[@arlo4051]

It would have been interesting if after replacing the injector seeing if you could disable it without it coming back online right away but I realize it's a business and get er done and on to the next.

[@williamalley4976]

As a retired Mechanic I can say that when a Jeep or Chrysler came in the bet was what wiring harness is bad or what electronic sensor failed And when Your code reader finds every code in the system is flashing on You just clinch and go to work knowing it will most likely be a long day! Props to You SMA like seeing someone else doing it besides Me!

[@grad0n]

I just connected the factory left front door speaker on a 2006 jeep commander for the first time in its’ life. Jeep had mis-pinned the harness.

[@montestu5502]

The Jeep. The gift that keeps on giving.

[@hokie9910]

And people keep buying them…and they aren’t cheap to purchase or to maintain. Why??

[@327JohnnySS]

Before or after Renault?

[@MicroSoftner]

140,000 miles!

[@montestu5502]

@@hokie9910 - As they say, it’s a Jeep thing.

[@hokie9910]

@@montestu5502 As in, we like buying things that break down regularly and cost a fortunate to fix? I just don’t get it. I would rather buy a real off road machine like a Land cruiser, Tacoma, or Tundra that will absolutely dominate a Jeep in every way imaginable not to mention the lower maintenance costs.

[@suespony]

I am surprised that a Chrysler jeep product with 140 k miles in NYS is still running and not rotted out yet.

[@hokie9910]

How dare you?! Lol

[@kevdipple5000]

In my none professional opinion, 2 1 inch self tapping screws thro the fuse box lid goes to show you what yer working with lol. It makes me very anxious. I have to feel sorry for you Mr O. I love yer sense of humour and loving your work there feller.

[@NoName-zn1sb]

non professional

[@ghodgeco]

"It ain't got no gas in it." - Karl Childers

[@patrickbennett9120]

Yeah... in IT we have trouble tickets... and they are very useful in seeing the history and solutions for past problems. Many times you can get a "quick" fix just by reading past tickets... also you can see trends which you may not notice on a day to day basis. BTW... you are a excellent problem solver... not many folks I work with today are good at that... most are patch-ers :)

[@markh.6687]

Ticket: "Computer hums while running" Resolution: Told computer to stop humming. (Former computer sales/service guy; we were a small shop and did it all).

[@LordOfSilense]

Yup, dealerships and shops with digital ROs have the same thing. You get a full log of the vehicle's prior service (either at all dealerships in the nation or at your specific network). Makes repeat issues much easier to track.

[@lightcapmath2777]

Nice...Thanks SMA! DVD:)

[@PhilG999]

I still remember using OBD1 software on a laptop while driving! Amazing how diagnostic tools have advanced since then! 😁

[@stevebot]

Son, I got an OTC Monitor 2000 in my toolbox.

[@hoosiertrailrider]

Well done. Same comeback comment I left before.

[@AK-Ram-tech]

Thats just proof you never deviate from your troubleshooting methods! All good mechanics know consistency is key!

[@Sicktrickintuner]

Also being another injector I would have suggested to do the rest of them.

[@suespony]

Might not be worth that investment, a Chrysler jeep product with 140 k miles already on it, won't be long before it is headed for the junk yard. Especially in the rust belt area.

[@Rhaspun]

@@suespony That's right. I forgot about that. I was thinking if the owner is planning on keeping it a long time it may be worth replacing them all to save on some of labor cost and the diagnosis fee. I don't think about rusting where I live in California.

[@seeya205]

​@@suesponyRust has nothing to do with it when it comes to a Jeep. It will be DOA before the rust gets it!

[@geologic740]

This reminds me of Pine Hollow's attempt to change the ride height on an Audi. The scan tool only momentarily controlled the air valve in the faulty air bag. Good work as always.

[@andrewg6238]

Don’t feel bad! I probably watched that one and I didn’t remember either! Best reruns EVER…SMA!!!

[@annyer262]

So this Jeep is a repeat actor on SMA! Jeep you are a star on here now!

[@joejohnson7097]

It's good to have notes on repair orders so you can go back and look what was done. Thanks for the video enjoy watching you diagnosed and repair and honest with your customer

[@VeteranofthePsychicWars]

Love that Sherlock “O” is on the case at 5:42. The game is afoot.

[@press2701]

Put a smile on my face Mr. O with the "we did this, we have the vid" comment.

[@robertfitzgerald3432]

Master Mechanic, Eric. Thanks once again for walking me through your diagnosis procedures, Sir.

[@moorfan1]

In a past life I did a lot of car stereo installation and I can say massive boo on whoever hooked up that amp power wire to the battery and then SCREWED THE FUSE into the fuse box cover. Sloppy.

[@latisimusd]

Strong diag "as always"! Great records as well. 😁

[@jdretiree2433]

That fancy fuse box thing-a-ma-bob was added since you last repaired that Jeep. The next time you get that Jeep in to replace another injector you should be able to remember it.

[@Shiznit304]

that jeep's got a big amplifier in the trunk for them jungle beats

[@327JohnnySS]

Thankfully the 4" lag bolts were out of stock when they went to the hardware store. Lol

[@scottmcintosh2988]

Dr. O you are the best learned so much from you over the years !!! 😢

[@Yawwee]

Deduction, documentation 📜, a video 🎥, excellent note 📓keeping = A Certified ASE Master Automotive Mechanic @ SMA in the PRNY Avoca !!!! A return customer who knows great service at SMA 🏦is the norm !!!!! Our hats are off 💁‍♂to you, Eric Holmes,🔍🔎 the master vehicle problem Sleuth !!!!!

[@missulu]

Great video! We'll call it a refresher on injector diagnosis!lol!

[@ted9693]

Man i have learned so much about diagnostic especially the importance of good grounds

[@DavidJones-ds6et]

Impressive record keeping. Great video as always.

[@stationaryenginesworldwide]

Great video Eric..thanks for showing the other videos ,now I can get the popcorn going and have my evening entertainment provided by SMA.!

[@Goobnav]

Great vid Mr. O!!!! This is coming from a '16 Cherokee Trailhawk owner with the same engine but, I only have over 85K on it as of this post.

[@deplorablelibertarian]

As long as this dude runs the tank down to fumes, he will keep replacing parts on the fuel system....

[@jerrydaily8208]

Also be putting a new fuel pump. Many people have no idea it cools the pump.

[@lactusgalacto1174]

@@jerrydaily8208 Many people forget the maintenance on the car and think they run on lifetime fluids.

[@franklincormorant8312]

15:40 "...and sure as shhhhhh SUGAR..." 😆

[@Mr.Z1776]

People need to understand that just getting to the problem area/part is 80% of the repair bill. Fix or replace the most you can afford while your mechanic is there!

[@woodstockbrian]

Best of the best.

[@shtsurfer]

7:10 That's right, sir! The clamp is always on wrong the first time. 😄

[@anthonymakley1530]

Going to be interesting to see how Napa part last compared to OEM parts

[@miceinoz1181]

Yeah, here in Australia we had an ad for these things where they said in it "It is a Jeep thing". Seems about right then.

[@ianmckirdy1094]

Nicely done, learned something here

[@darkerbinding6933]

I would choose to have you do all the injectors...

[@pb3033]

I didn't remember either! An old problem in a new day !

[@JohnSmith-eq5el]

Any and all videos much appreciated....

[@AntonioClaudioMichael]

The giant fuse on the fuse block lid with the blue wire coating is a stereo amp fuse Eric O 4:20 @South Main Auto Repair LLC

[@Barrys_Shop]

At 18:15 in the previous injector install video, you say that the customer says that if another injector goes bad, he’ll do all 5 others. Still the case?

[@onemechca]

Sometimes I think when you have to change one injector for a failure you are better off changing them all. Especially when you have to remove the intake.. The rest are usually not far behind IMO. Hard sell to the customer though.Sucks that you were not able to get OEM..Great video bud.

[@515Earl]

You should schedule him for 8 months out to replace (enter next injector number here ____ )

[@markh.6687]

I seen people suggest that once you start losing injectors, you should just change them all and be done with it, especially on engines that are hard to work on, require you to dismantle the vehicle to get to them, etc.

[@Troy_Built]

If they are cheap and and you plan on keeping it forever that's a great plan. I'm betting neither is the case. Edit: It looks like they are a little over $100 each. So $500 extra on a preventative plus labor would be a tough sell. @@markh.6687

[@garygardner9677]

It always makes me chuckle a bit when a customer says "do you remember working on...." we work on way too many cars to remember them. Unless it was a pita for some reason.

[@simplygregsterev]

All the time! Followed by having no fuel in the car

[@robertroy8803]

heh, the funny part about going back to your old diagnosis video is the part where you say "You can't check all 6 injectors' current from the fusebox because of the ASD system on Chryslers, that's just how they've been forever". Hard to keep track of all the idiosyncrasies of makes/models all the time I bet :)

[@williamwhite9767]

Empty gas tank but it did have a charged battery! One out of two! Good records saved the day!

[@ChrisVargasrpht2000chris]

I don't care if you did it before this is still a good resource and an even better channel. Maybe the owner should do all the injectors instead of just picking one at a time.

[@topher8634]

He's probably consistently running the vehicle low or out of fuel that's why injectors are prematurely failing. A small piece of debris is all it would take to hang an injector up, then the coil is gonna overheat if it doesn't move when fired.

[@Rhaspun]

One time I ran my fuel low and it started sputtering as I was going to work. But it was inconsistent. As I thought about it as I drove closer to work I thought that the low fuel level had something to do with it. Since the pump was sucking up the yucky stuff that all gas tanks will have due to water collecting in the tank. Sure enough after I filled the car ran perfectly. A couple of days later I thought I bought a bottle of gas dryer to pour into my gas tank. I drove to work and I could feel a weak miss from the engine. I drove home and it was the same thing. I thought about it and I figured it was the fuel filter being clogged due to the gas dryer doing its job of getting rid of the water in the tank. I checked it a day later and sure enough the fuel filter was very dirty. It was colored brick red from the build up of rust particles being caught by the filter.

[@mph5896]

I see the old needle through the smashed fingernail trick. I still remember smashing my thumb 15 years ago and doing the same🤕

[@tchads_57]

A second of pain for instant relief. 👍

[@masterofnone7846]

I'll watch all your repeats man!Your amazing.

[@eourt1986]

Thanks for the pointle... duplica... Thanks for the amazing video.

[@secretsquirrel9722]

I've noticed this is common practice in America and this result always huants me when watching. I look at all electrics the same as bulbs. They only have so much life. If one goes (especially in a PITA spot like these), sure as sugar others will follow. So, you always quote the set. If the owner chooses not to, and you end up in this situation. They know full well they were warned!

[@darylmorgan9887]

Always good to watch you at work Eric even a repeat performance., I clicked onto the previous repair and i watched that when it came out also along with a like button click. Lol we all forget.

[@Darkvirgo88xx]

The baby Pentastar V6 I have always wanted to drive one of the Cherokees with that engine. Especially since ive had experience with the other engine choice in my Dart the 2.4 Multiair II just cant handle being in a heavy vehicle. The horsepower and torque figures are deceiving in the 2.4 but it is one of the best sounding 4 cylinders with the Dart's dual exhaust.

[@Goobnav]

I have a '16 Cherokee Trailhawk over 85K with the 3.2 V6, great engine, a lot of power when you need it.

[@Darkvirgo88xx]

@@Goobnav Thats what I was thinking. We have the bigger 3.6 Pentastar in my patrol Durango at work and it moves that boat well so sounds about right.

[@gokartbuyer]

Ewww

[@terminallygray]

Alrighty..... An SMA double feature....Creep cheap Jeep featuring Bad Injector. Followed up by Returning to the womb - Creepy Jeepy Injector Part II. Son Of Creep cheap Jeep. Thanks Eric O It's nice to know we aren't the only ones that get that really Thick as Pea Soup fog.

[@thehondafitguy]

at 18:10 in the injector replace video the customer said he was going to do all 5 if one more went bad. Did they actually?

[@willw8011]

Yeah, that is why most mechanic I worked with say do all of the injectors or take it somewhere else. When 1 or more have a problem, then the others are not far behind it. Do 1 or 2, then they comeback... and they always say the new failure is the one done before. I hated being a mechanic.

[@MRrwmac]

Eric, you diagnose and fix one thing, then another thing pops up. You know what I think….. there is a little gremlin that is switching the injectors when nobody is looking. Sneaky little buggers. Happened on a couple of fuel nozzles in a Huey helicopter we were flying routinely for scout missions. BTW, it was a foreign gremlin!

[@stevewright4173]

I usually offer the customer, the option of replacing the entire set of injectors, or the one that I found bad. That way if another injector goes bad, the customer doesn’t try to pin it on me……or if he does try to pin it on me I can remind him (or her)that they were the one who made the decision not to replace the set.

[@swallowinn4410]

Hi Eric. Hey this is SMA You Post we watch. And still find them interesting. 1 thing computers have done is make it easy to back check previous invoices or a vehicle history for repeat customers.

[@cdgregOG]

It blows my mind how many vehicles you get with the fuel light on. I never let that light come on period, let alone when dropping it off to be worked on lol.

[@michaelmankowski5092]

We love watching all your videos. Repeats or not.

[@raybates3119]

The "big ole fuse" is for the stereo amplifier that made you say, "Whoa fella" when you started the vehicle. 🤣

[@billsmith2212]

They leave a car with a note : Needs fixing . But what they DIDN'T say : They stripped the oil drain plug and LEFT IT OUT or a brake line rusted out , or ran out of gas ,or they cross threaded ALL the lug nuts , I couldn't get that caliper on with new pads . Let's FIRST go for a test drive ! 😄 Surprise ! Great diagnosis and fix .

[@frotobaggins7169]

"Implausible vehicle speed signal recieved", was it 88 mph?

[@markh.6687]

cLikely yet another failed or failing part feeding data to the computer, and the computer saying "Nope! That's implausible given other data!" Sorta like wheel speed vs. engine rpm's vs. some other data. The computer is doing the same thing, yelling "Ye canna change de laws of physics!" and throws a flag/code on the whole thing.

[@darknature79]

That big ol fuse is for after market audio system.

[@mjmcomputers]

The customer may not always know what the part is or does but they know if they paid for it before.

[@deltacollier5499]

Love your TECHnique ! You're spot on Eric O. I learned something new to find what cylinder. Thanks

[@mdefeo22750]

Our power transmission flushes for a 2014 Honda accord he good or bad way to go to service the transmission. No issues with the transmission at this time and it has about 120,000 miles on it. Service was just performed on timing belt spark plugs etc. and everything else appears to be in good shape.

[@Mech7.3]

Great video Eric it sux gettin old and forgetting what you did yesterday. 🤣 keep up the great work!! 🇺🇸✌️

[@damarwirawan1348]

I like neep used to have one, the "not empty every pocket" one

[@michaelsatchwell6037]

GM reached a deal today Stelantis did a few days after Ford, should be back and running soon Ford is today

[@kn4cc755]

About the glitch of the #1 not being killed for the full length of the test period; I have seen some vehicles that show the #1 as a default as it's at the top of the list but it's not really selected until you use the pull-down to check it off. The default works, but only until the software runs a few cycles.

[@jamesgeorge4874]

Went through this on a '16 Wrangler, replaced #6 injector Dec '22, now #1 is going open, hot. Customer wants to replace them all though.

[@G31mR]

When I first saw the long deck screws going through the fuse box lid, I thought to myself, "There's yer problem, lady!" Guess it can't be that easy.

[@LeewardStudios]

Jeep with engine light on is a redundancy.

[@carlbyington5185]

Hi from B&D Automotive Center, 1510 Main Street... in California, been watching for way many years.