Sovereign Citizen Court Fail #49

[@JESSES_CURIOUSLY_CURIOUS]

Someone get This ham sandwich out of my court, god that's precious. Thanks mike😂

[@kiddingme01]

Questioning mental competency for EVERY sovereign citizen should be a standard practice of the court

[@pantarkan7]

Stupid and mentally incompetent are two different things... though they have similarities

[@kiddingme01]

@@pantarkan7 agreed, but I stand by my position 😂

[@eamonhunt8781]

@@pantarkan7 that would be a funny result. "Subject isn't mentally incompetent, just really, really, stupid."

[@mircat28]

Belief in Sov Cit stupidity is not proof of craziness. Never ever under estimate a Sov Cit.

[@SilverLady52]

Agreed @kiddingme01. There probably also needs to be some kind of federal law enacted that makes "sovereignty" immediately inadmissible in court. 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@smoorej]

I wish the judge had simply issued an order to put all the vessels in dry dock until the divorce is finalized.

[@LawTalkWithMike]

😂

[@patriciaevans5906]

Agree!

[@theresafeeney2756]

She probably doesn’t have license, insurance or registration either

[@Mr.WilliamCancel]

😅

[@jessicahutchinson9984]

I did not expect a mute-ny on this vessel, Mike.

[@jgunther22]

LOLOLOL

[@AmarylisFlow]

😂

[@mariealsbergas3588]

Mute-ny of the bounty?

[@marciamathews1257]

You win comment of the day!😊

[@rosejacobs4745]

😂

[@oopsibrokethecow]

Eeeeerrr....when someone yells "I AM COMPETENT!" they are almost certainly NOT competent.

[@pandorasbox4238]

The husband's like: 'now everyone sees why I divorced her'.

[@DEBORAH4-ut9sz]

..and they have a minor child. That poor kid to have a mother like her.

[@davidferris6057]

I had the privilege of working in the courts in Travis County for years. Judge Livingston is the judge every community should have.

[@LawTalkWithMike]

🙌

[@carriemummy]

She's just ignoring the fact that the judge is not disagreeing with her. She's come here to say something and she's going to say it regardless of what anyone else says.

[@markoman5267]

She wouldn't take yes for an answer.

[@carriemummy]

@@markoman5267 😆

[@marilynglazier9794]

All she said was word salad and that she is the master of her domain, maybe she got that from Seinfeld 😆 🤣

[@sinjin8576]

She came wanting a fight and wanting to find something to attack the judge with. Judge meanwhile is just laughing.

[@Reidbynature]

Sovereign citizens are the odd example of a disconnect from reality without technically being crazy.

[@Tindometari]

They build castles in the clouds and then try to live in them.

[@markieffmorris9263]

Tea Party was a gateway for many of them

[@magoodfellow]

They’re a great example of contagious gullibility.

[@mastershake42019]

It's so interesting how dumb people don't know they are dumb. Krueger-Dunning effect is a beech.

[@DEBORAH4-ut9sz]

They're not legally crazy but they do need psyche meds. They have a burning desire to be 'somebody' v a 'nobody' who's also a shitizen

[@mothersuperior6751]

I remember Judge Judy saying something along the lines of. “You are so busy thinking of what you want to say next, that you are not listening to what I am saying”. This woman is possibly cognitively competent, to understand proceedings. But I doubt she is competent to behave in a constructive manner. If she is not represented she could end up with contempt charges.

[@Heathen.Deity.]

What folk don’t know is, the husband is only 28 years old. Living with her has simply aged the poor guy.

[@MaureenKerr-n9v]

28? Lawd she did a number on aging the hell out poor man with that mouth

[@ss-kz9ee]

😂

[@debunkthejunk1]

Whoever said "Judge Livingston I presume" needs recognition. Legend.

[@LawTalkWithMike]

🤩

[@robynfisher4455]

It was actually DR Livigston 😉 and it was some reporter who had been looking for him in Africa.

[@Tindometari]

My heart goes out to that poor, poor man. I half-expected him to start blinking out SOS. But he's a smart man. He's got 'never interrupt your opponent when she's making a big mistake' down *cold.*

[@jackgibsxxx0750]

I think he has learned over the years not to waste time interrupting her. It just doesn't do any good.

[@cindyschlecht1975]

Either that or he's just exhausted from trying to deprogram her the past few years.

[@MooseMaunu]

Poor old Joe is just thinking, "c'mon Toni....all I want are my 1979 Dallas Cowboys beer mugs back."

[@LawTalkWithMike]

Yup

[@chrisvangompel6245]

They would be Green Bay Packers objects, thankyouverymuch.

[@jimmaloney1121]

This was such a train wreck. And the husband looked like he was on downers lol. Thanks for getting this clip! It was too funny not to share!

[@lindaharb7275]

It was funny. So glad u saw it when we are a diff chat

[@ernietetrault3403]

"Train wreck"??? This was a scene from the Addams family where Gomez blows up the train!!

[@hoosfan29]

His exwife was finally muted. He was getting much needed sleep.

[@tay-dor7147]

Law Talk with Mike: Excellent. Law Talk with Mike and Debra: Priceless

[@LawTalkWithMike]

Thank You

[@darthwav]

That mute war was hilarious. Lol

[@lindaharb7275]

It sure was. Hahaha. It was a Battle of the fingers

[@dizziechef9502]

This husband will be so happy without her.

[@nebelwerfer9596]

I think she hasn't even started making his life a hell on earth.

[@loriepaix6391]

She was unmuting herself after they muted her. I saw a hearing yesterday where the defendant was adamant that he could not have a probation violation because he was found not guilty by reason of insanity. He was unmuting himself as fast as they muted him and finally the judge had enough and removed him.

[@lindaharb7275]

Can u just pic a finger war. Pressing the mute unmute

[@momsterzz]

I bust a gut on that one

[@donnaanderson2]

dont tease me, what hearing did you watch and where can I find it. It sounds priceless and my curiosity is highly peaked.

[@glynncordry5965]

Yeah, she isn't a "Bringer".

[@Tindometari]

It seems strange that it's even possible for a defendant to override the judge's mute.

[@netherstar2553]

Another contempt charge in search of a judge.

[@LibertarianVet-]

The husband's face had the "please make this stop" expression the whole time. That poor, poor, poor man! I think he started the relationship with the sov sit just a year ago, and he is only 25 years old... And now after 12 months with that woman, he looks like that.

[@LawTalkWithMike]

😂😂😂

[@Ocrilat]

Never interrupt your enemy when she is making a mistake. - Joe Van Gompel

[@kevinbarksdale7897]

Speaking from experience I do not think that man is on any drugs. He is just at peace. And is enjoying it immensely. She didn't get unmuted, she just screeches that loudly!

[@ED-es2qv]

Apparently, someone literally indicted a ham sandwich. They always said it could happen.

[@paulstarnes417]

Keep that child away from her.

[@michelletalnagi4281]

"Talk amongst yourselves," you say and proceed to text. This is the quality entertainment I tune in for! Lol

[@LawTalkWithMike]

😂😂😂

[@OhioVinnie]

New to the Law talk family and playing catchup on videos. Mike you are a very educated and funny man. I dont have any personal court experience so this is all new to me. Gotta love sov-cits. Mrs Davis is like a strawberry ice cream on a hot day. Beautiful, refreshing and very much appreciated.

[@jeffanderson6390]

I just went through a bad breakup, but this puts things in perspective. Lol

[@heyitslilz2474]

Good one Mike!! Would love a follow up….that poor man 🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏼‍♀️ (forehead slaps) and poor judge and attorney too!! 😵‍💫

[@MooseMaunu]

Looking into that man's eyes you see that this a person who has looked into the abyss, and that abyss's name is Toni! :0

[@TheUluxian]

I also have no doubt that she rehearsed this speech before and received the response, "Ma'am, this is a McDonald's."

[@FD2003Abc]

"Get your ship together!" Deborah shoots she scores! The crowd goes wild!

[@lisanoonan2947]

I'm picturing her as a prisoner of war interrogator. The years of having to listen to that loud voice and all that comes out. Enemies would cave! This husband deserves a medal. Show this clip at an anger management class of wife beaters... have this guy as a guest speaker to explain how he managed to keep his sanity.

[@LawTalkWithMike]

😂

[@lauracoleman1680]

🤣🤣🤣

[@davidthomas1467]

Madam Mao

[@glynncordry5965]

Like the loud speaker constantly spewing propaganda?

[@barnabyaprobert5159]

"This husband deserves a medal." YES!

[@Dingomush]

That was the most reality disconnected Sovtard I’ve seen in a long time. Thank you, Mike. For bringing that clip to light and for having the ever enchanting Mrs. Davis on.

[@LawTalkWithMike]

👍

[@40shellyfish]

Love Miss Davis "get your SHIP together lady" Now that's a t-shirt!!!!

[@dagfincarp1113]

Ms. Davis is so gracious to join in these shenanigans.

[@bethewalt7385]

Shenanigans indeed

[@perryrush6563]

The fact that she keeps going despite being muted is amazing!

[@LawTalkWithMike]

🤩

[@ChiliCat..]

I always love it when everyone leaves, and the SovCit just keeps talking, even though they are muted and have no audience.

[@peope1976]

Deborah is so adorable and seems so kind and funny it makes me smile.

[@Knight_of_NI]

(Insert The Love Boat theme music) The sov boat Who’s captain’s a crazy shrew Come aboard, she’s screaming at you The sov boat is making this judge run The sov boat promises headaches for everyone 😂🤣😂

[@ThePursuitofHappiness1988]

Mike, I always greatly enjoy watching yourself and APA Davis having a laugh while also discussing these cases, listening to the discourse is very enlightening. Would love to see more!! Keep up the great work!!

[@cynthiahamilton9292]

Thanks!

[@barelyasurvivor1257]

"Someone get this Ham Sandwich out of my court". That is a fantastic phrase that should be enshrined. TY Mike

[@drn13355]

Why do these people even show up if the court has "no jurisdiction over me". Then don't even who up. They want the court to make a decision over someone they don't have jurisdiction over? It makes zero sense.

[@mariealsbergas3588]

She was a no show for the previous court date in April.

[@tomhaskett5161]

Why is the sovcit using email? As captain of the vessel she should be using signal flags, surely.

[@TeamSkeptic]

Someone get this ham sandwich out of my court... lol well said judge!

[@LawTalkWithMike]

🤩

[@DownTheRabbitHoleToo]

While simultaneously claiming that admiralty courts have no jurisdiction over her on the land she talks about her vessels and the fact that she is the shipmaster thereof.

[@LemonThunder9725]

You mean that man had to be married to that woman. Bless his heart. He deserves a reward.

[@maryholden3136]

At some point he found her irresistible

[@KuddlzH]

Did she say"SH1T master"??? 🤣🤣 "does she have an inside voice orrr...." I love Ms. Davis!!!!!!

[@ConsciousExpression]

Deborah is just so awesome. I often dislike prosecutors, because I can detect a mean spirit and a desire to win rather than get at the truth. But Deborah doesn't have a mean bone in her body, and she's still an effective, tough, capable prosecutor. She rehabilitates the role, for me. And yeah Mike I know you're a former prosecutor, no offense. I like you too.

[@lauracoleman1680]

I agree 100%

[@jameserickson8015]

Yeah, but what's up with the light switch behind her???

[@MrVassago89]

@@jameserickson8015 lightswitch???

[@JustaMomnFamily]

And she ALWAYS knows where there is free lodging

[@schnoodle3]

@@JustaMomnFamily Her county doesn't bill inmates like other Michigan counties that insist on getting blood from turnips.

[@ania5038]

I like how she has a flag in the background to look like she's the real judge lol

[@FancyPants_RN]

Notice the FLAG behind her....it is a Title 4 flag (aka Sov Cit flag).

[@UpnorthHere]

Good eye! I wonder how much some con man soaked her for that piece of garbage.

[@davidgilmour9447]

This woman needs an order to walk the plank on the vessel of her old man's choice. The dude has earned the right to make a decision, after years of separate bedrooms. You're looking at the happiest man in Texas when this things over.🤸🤸

[@RainbowManification]

I don’t know how these judges do it because these sovcits get my blood pressure up in about 30 seconds of them opening their mouths.

[@netherstar2553]

I thought I heard her say the vessel was deceased. At 17:20 could she be reporting the judge to the marshal, or maybe the Postmaster General?

[@LawTalkWithMike]

Yup😂

[@crabbyj]

Or even the Postmaster Admiral! LOL

[@mchevre]

Someone in the chat said the husband is 35. That's horrifying. He looks 10 years older. I guess being married to that woman would prematurely age anyone, but he's aged like the way a US president does between first day of first term and last day of second term.

[@HolmWrecker]

I'd chew my own leg off to get away from that last woman. Yikes.

[@Atlas6355_]

Dude biggest mistake was to say “I do” 😆

[@kayb9979]

I've watched the occasional clip where Judge Middleton has had to cope with barking dogs. I know Ms. Davis doesn't bring her goats to court but once in a while in a sov-cit trial I'd like to hear goats in the background.

[@ejagger]

The belligerence of these clowns espousing their Narnia is almost unbelievable.

[@DrDoom-ph4gi]

Why is divorce so expensive? It’s worth it.

[@LawTalkWithMike]

🙌

[@scottgibson6735]

Thank you,Mike.Any footage of the lovely Mrs.Davis is appreciated

[@vanguard9067]

Jurisdiction, jurisdiction, jurisdiction. If you say it three times in a row, sovereignty is noted by the judiciary, affidavits of truth are reviewed, special appearances under duress are accepted, microphone are muted and a competency hearing is ordered. All is right in the world of sovcit jurisprudence.

[@LawTalkWithMike]

😂😂😂

[@grandpa1468]

The husband is alive, I saw him blink.

[@masteroverincompetents7915]

That specific strand of Soviet refers to children as vessles/property, through self-constructed "baby deeds".

[@LawTalkWithMike]

🤦‍♂️

[@comfortablenerd3894]

Husband looks like he is struggling to keep it together serenity now!

[@FatManWalking18]

i hope her vessels have the US Coast Guard certificate of seaworthiness

[@regenia8738]

Love it..."Talk among yourselves!"

[@LawTalkWithMike]

😂

[@olddogg60]

I had to hurry and get my SovCit Bingo card. 😃

[@LawTalkWithMike]

😂

[@susanengel-ix8bl]

I think the judge should make her get the old mental check??

[@mcnultyssobercompanion6372]

Debbie's really funny. I want to point out that Mrs. von Gompel's main strategic error was entering in an affidavit. Presenting *An Affidavit of Truth* is what she should have done. Atrociously bad form. She clearly needs a visit to Ronnie Davis' ranch. Speaking of Ronnie Davis, how did Judge Livinsgton survive the purge? All that jocularity aside, the legal analysis you guys eventually segued into at the end was legitimately interesting. Every now and then *I assure you completely by accident* I learn something watching Law Talk with Mike. Thanks for making a guy laugh at 2:30am in West Philly. It was desperately needed.

[@DebbieDavissaid]

Awe, thanks!

[@WenbruReviews]

Judge Livingston should require cruella to address her properly as Judge.

[@MelanaC]

Awwwww Mr Van Gompel is struggling to remain serious! Poor poor guy! Her divine orders….. sheeeesh! She has lost the actual plot! There’s no sandwiches left in her picnic at all

[@UpnorthHere]

Also appears to be missing a few raisins in the mush.

[@og4tool]

It gets even more hilarious when you realize that she isn’t talking about actual vessels but her personage within the admiralty. Of all the sovereign tropes the admiralty trope is my favorite. There should be an instagram like filter where you can give her an admiral cap and shoulder boards

[@Truth1561]

My ex refused to get a solicitor (UK) so basically my guy had to do all the work and I paid a lot more. My ex then claimed I'd robbed him ( I had paid the mortgage our whole relationship, put up the deposit and was the one who maintained full time work the whole 13 yrs.)The court awarded me 53% as I had the children living with me and I had to buy him out - he blew through the whole lot in months on various long haul holidays and benders, then was living in a bed sit bleating about how unfair the system is 🙄

[@LizzS17]

Hopefully he gets custody of that childcif he wants the child. He/she does not deserve to be brought up by a sovern citizen. Yikes. Sovern citizens should be sterilized.

[@gibbons9599]

I think this is the first time I’ve seen an American flag with inverted colors being cited as more powerful than the court’s as an argument.

[@Schlemiel-schlimazel]

Clearly the 2 vessels are her and her child. Other trials I’ve seen, they mute you but you can unmute yourself

[@brianfield58]

Great video. This lady makes me want a divorce from her voice and I hope her husband is happy and can avoid her for the rest of his life. I really applaud this man for lasting as long as he could. Lol

[@ronfullerton3162]

"Just talk amunst yourselves"! Love it!

[@toneloke7048]

😆 that wasn’t apple juice the judge took a sip of

[@Spookeygurl063]

the husband looks like he is doing the ... if I don't move they won't see me...just be very still & quiet😂😂😂😂😂

[@g.murphy6405]

Love it when Debbie joins!!!

[@LawTalkWithMike]

🤩

[@kiddingme01]

@Law Talk With Mike gotta look up "Hon. J. Cedric Simpson's PCC Docket on Thursday 5/12/2022"....Anthony Lane was rolling and smoked blunt on Zoom court...his case is called and prosecutor notifies judge around 2:40:00 stamp

[@LawTalkWithMike]

👍

[@nascardave01]

Admiralty law again. These sovcits must think they’re on the USS Nimitz.

[@dianealden9293]

Crazy lady Ship master of the Titanic??? She is on special appearance by the DIVINE?? Wow!! THAT poor guy deserves anything court gives him PLUS combat pay plus medal for courage in face of the enemy plus free vacation as far away from that haradin as he can travel.

[@Jonathan.D]

The husband looks like one of the accountants at Stirling Cooper on Mad Men.😄 Due to the wife's comments, the husband could ask for just about anything he wants, and the judge would give it to him. I feel sad for anyone who has to deal with her.

[@LawTalkWithMike]

Yup

[@Jonathan.D]

@@LawTalkWithMike Quick question if you get a chance. In the comments section on Steve Letho's YT channel, there can be a lot of comments that seem to be of a sovcit nature. If you know of him and his videos what is your take on him? I didn't take him for a sovcit but I'm new to his channel.

[@superexoticshrub]

@@Jonathan.D I've watched quite a few of Lehto's videos and he's definitely not a SovCit that I've ever seen. He's usually been pretty down-to-earth and reasonable on most issues. People like him, Mike, NatalieLawyerChick, etc. tend to attract the loonies because they're either featured in a video or just found it and thought they could self-aggrandize.

[@Jonathan.D]

@@superexoticshrub I didn't think that he was. To me, his opinions don't seem to lean in that direction. There are always going to be troublemakers in the comments. However, that's not what was happening. In his recent videos that I have watched, an overwhelming majority of the comments were very pro-sovcit. It was like the comment section on a sovcit or A1 channel. The few people who made rational comments were immediately overwhelmed by the sovcits. That's what made me wonder if I was perhaps missing something. Why would a non-sovcit have such a large sovcit following? He does post a lot of videos and I have only watched some of them. So it could be that the few videos I have seen attracted many more sovcits than normal. I think I have heard Mike talk about him in the past but I don't remember what he said.

[@bry88-q3p]

So awesome you did a video with Debbie Davis from Saint Jo county MI

[@MrWeezer55]

Imagine these two looking at each other across the dinner table...it's like the Twilight Zone.

[@burtonm3220]

holy crap. I"ve never seen crazy like this. i've seen people who are gibbering nonsense. i've seen quoting scripture repeatedly. i've seen intense anger. but this is like all of it in a blender.

[@markpickett4403]

Get your ship together 😉 nice one Debra.

[@LawTalkWithMike]

😂

[@marks.6480]

Van Gompel is a common name in the villages where i come from (south of the Netherlands) but very local to that region. Weird to see it pop up in California

[@mariealsbergas3588]

Wisconsin, actually, transplanted to Texas.

[@GummyBearWA]

I don't know why the judge keeps kicking this can down the road. This is the second time, we know of, and she should have ordered a competency evaluation. The very least she should have done was set an attorney for the minor son. Her SovCit BS shouldn't be dragging out the divorce case. It's not fair to him in the least. But, life's anything but fair.

[@superexoticshrub]

Well, the first time was a no-show. I don't know how divorce proceedings usually work with a single no-show, but they just decided to come back to it later. This time might have been the first time they've come up against the SovCit script nonsense and that would have triggered a "ugh, not this idiocy" reaction and they decided to move to the normal next step which is covering their own bases. Order competency so that, whether she passes or fails, she can't claim that the court didn't do their job related to it. Then, if she passes that test, any negative repercussions from her nonsense falls squarely on her.

[@Annie1962]

I'm just hearing 'nuclear wessells' - Checkov from Star Trek

[@Crystalsgarden]

I bet judges past, present and future would always want a mute button, over zoom as well as in person.

[@thathandpanlady4510]

lol … Judge Livingston periodically looks like she has a black and gold State of Texas crown on her head! lol … yet another great show Mike …. I’m either laughing out loud or rolling my eyes … always a good time …. 🤗🛸🎶🦋

[@YukoValis]

When that woman was referring to "property" and a "vessel" she was talking about herself and her name on paper. Maritime Sov-cits use a lot of fallacies and word play to convince themselves that to the courts they are considered ships under maritime law.

[@bugbread]

As a few other folks have mentioned, I'm fairly sure that the "property" she's talking about is her child (and, I suspect, herself). At 7:43 she says "these are my...this is my property. I own the deeds for the vessels in question" and is holding up a document with a photograph of a person on it. Then, at 8:31, she says "I have owned these vessels since March 31." Then, at 9:40, "I own those vessels, and they're trademarked", and then at 11:17 "This court has no jurisdiction over me or my son. The judge ordered temporary orders that did not belong to him." So what I think it is is that she fell into the sov cit pit and, on March 31, filed some sort of paperwork that "killed" her strawman and that of her child, severing them from their strawmen, and created deeds for herself and her son. The "deceased," then, are the strawmen, and the "vessels," which are also the "property," are her son and herself. Apparently the previous judge issued some sort of order related to her son (probably giving dad custody since mom is loony tunes), and she took that to be unlawful removal of her property and trespass. This would also explain why she's so adamant that her property has been violated while the judge is saying that no decisions whatsoever have been made about her property.

[@Alex_Mitchell]

She was waving a deed around at the beginning of the video. I suspect she wants to keep the house.

[@bugbread]

@Alex Mitchell (Apologies if this double-posts, I thought I posted the comment earlier but either I forgot to actually hit the Reply button or KZbin ate it for some reason). I doubt it's her house. The thing she calls a deed has a photo of a person on it, which wouldn't make sense for a house deed. She also says it's a deed to a vessel, which she's trademarked, and sov cits usually trademark their names. I've never heard of a sov cit trademarking a house. Plus the judge says no decisions have been made about her property. Sov cits, however, *do* sometimes call themselves "vessels" and call their children their property. For example, one of the sov cits in the Capitol riot demanded in court that "all charges against my VESSEL" be dropped (www.oleantimesherald.com/news/mckean-county-woman-argues-sovereign-citizenship-in-capitol-riot-case/article_5d7bf0d8-74af-50c3-b364-71c9ee82cfa6.html) and David "I love hyphens" Winn calls himself a "SOVEREIGN-CHARTER-VESSEL" (www.dwmlc.net/copy-of-for-the-rape). One case that particularly amuses me is trying to get out of jail by submitting a "Salvage of the Vessel" document (digitalcommons.usu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=4584&context=etd).

[@LiveSoItCounts]

It's a baby deed instead of a birth certificate in all capital letters

[@DrownedInExile]

She owns vessels? Are they Nuclear Wessels?

[@RWS1255]

Omgosh! You actually know Deborah? She's a hoot!

[@LawTalkWithMike]

We are buddies

[@RWS1255]

Great content 👍

[@marks.6480]

wow... she really hits all the sovcit bingo words!