SP Air Super-Fast Mini Impact Ratchets (1/4" & 3/8") SP-1764 & SP-1765

[@Jamfanwp]

I use impact drivers of all types about 60 hours each week assembling heavy duty steel furniture parts. I've used a lot of brands. I've "test driven" many different brands for potential use in the factory. I used these for a while, then I discovered pistol grip impact drills. I've tried really hard to replace my master power impact drills. I use these wrenches on occasion if I need to get into a tight space. I do my own rebuilds on my air tools as well. I replace anvil and dogs in my primary drill about every 2 months. I run down about 6000 self tap metal screws into pre-stamped 3/8 inch steel. These wrenches will run down a 1 inch screw in ~2 seconds. That seems pretty good, and is more than enough for the average person. My MP2264 will run that same bolt in roughly 1/4 of a second. If there's room for that drill, I won't use anything else. I don't know what sort of voodoo and witchcraft they do over there in Japan making those drills, but *identical* products from other companies are almost worthless in comparison. I have a UT pistol grip impact/pulse drill that was identical so much that the parts were interchangeable. It never ran down a bolt in less than a second. All that said, I have a lot of tricks up my sleeve with air tools, especially the small impact drills. Upkeep is everything, and performance is not cheap. With these impact wrenches, if you're really serious about how well they run, you will keep extra anvils/dogs/etc. I see people sending tools back to the factory and spending insane amounts of money to fix very simple things. I've ran down over six million screws with one drill. I've replaced the dogs and anvil over 20 times. The front drive bearing disintegrated, despite being lubed not only with tool oil, but actual bearing grease coming from the front assembly. All repairs I did myself. They are $700+ drills, but you get what you pay for. In an industrial setting where myself and a couple of other people work these tools on the absolute most extreme scenario as possible, it's about $100 a month in upkeep and parts. The things I experience are fatigue to metal from repeated heating and millions of impacts. I've broken anvils and dogs on occasion, but only after driving hundreds of thousands of bolts, each one pushing the limits of what the drill can do. At home, you would never break a tool of that quality. The thing I actually break the most is sockets/bits. I can't use anything other than the extremely heavy duty apex hex bits. I see people spending hundreds of dollars and shipping tools off for weeks at a time to still not quite get it right.

[@fee9687]

Am asking story. You have any room for a worker? Any position at all, so long as it’s one where I put in an honest day or two‘ s work in a 12 hour period I will take it. ! No need to pay me until I’ve shown my value, which if not done promptly just kick my ass out and I’ll say thanks for the opportunity and drive back towards the place where home was. Has anything changed in the 3-4 years since your comment? Do you use any battery powered impact drivers/wrenches? Also when you said pistol gripped impact drill, Why Not use a impact driver instead of a drill? I assume you mean what they call “hammer drills” ? I’d think the self tap it mode on impact drivers would be a far more comfortable and speedier experience, at least in every comparison I’ve seen it has been. Please forgive my ignorance, I ask for my own edification and with the expectation that my current understanding is flawed. Anyone who was so arrogant as to presume themselves to be in a position to explain anything to someone with as much experience in the trenches as you have is not just arrogant, but a full on hatted-ass

[@plankshield]

You're bad for my wallet...

[@RealToolReviews]

Land of Rath I keep hearing that :)

[@Thomasjcolbert82]

I used this to remove bolts on gas and brake pedal UNDER the dash. Awesome!! I see why you recommend the 1/4" one as well for even tighter spots. I have the 3/8"

[@billstrobel9727]

Received my 1/4" & 3/8" SP ratchets today. I ordered them based on your review. They are very nice. Thank you for the review.

[@RealToolReviews]

Bill Strobel Awesome! I am glad to hear that you like them Bill! :)

[@realtech9984]

Make a video with the sp air vs Astro 1128 or 1124 air ratchet think that would be a good one

[@Lanninglongarmmowing]

Great video. I really like the ratcheting one. It is so much better. It's like an impact vs a drill for tightening bolts down. I never knew a battery powered right angle impact doesn't have the teeth that grip so you can give it more leverage.

[@RealToolReviews]

Love2boat92 Yep, a standard impact (right angle or normal) has no teeth.....these are a unique patented design that no one else has --- especially in cordless.

[@Lanninglongarmmowing]

Real Tool Reviews Very interesting.

[@hidros1461]

Man I just bought this badass ratchet and realized I don't even have an air compressor..

[@RealToolReviews]

.....these are minor details.

[@hidros1461]

Real Tool Reviews lol I'm joking thanks for sharing the review definitely a must have

[@joehyundaitech7961]

Dan real nice ratchets and real nice review as always I just ordered the 3/8 drive . I am adding a 1/4 adapter because at my shop we use a 1/4 a lot

[@1971ufcfan]

I know this is almost 2 years old , but I love my 3/8 SP-17 . It's my go- to air ratchet for fasteners 11/16,17mm and under in my tool box .Love your reviews. Also loved the Snap on vs Earthquake xt review. Us guys in the shop always felt that some of the Harbor freight Earthquake stuff is underestimated. I love my Earthquake 1/2 stubby impact (550ft. LB)also. How about a review on it . KUGW!!

[@jnic2003]

Is the rachet still going strong for you?

[@kurtiscal3msetccdwell618]

I noticed SP updated this to a sealed flat head design. I would love to see a size comparison

[@maximedboisvert]

Another great extensive review !! I'm not really into air tools but I must say they seem pretty powerful !

[@RealToolReviews]

Maxime Desaulniers Boisvert Thanks! I really them :)

[@AuMechanic]

Like those, impacting, 500 rpm, small and light.Just need to add an air swivel to the end. they should all come with one.

[@fee9687]

What determines what drive size is needed! If they had a little pocket compressor somehow I’d love this

[@wildgoose6596]

I prefer cordless battery operated, but I think I need this just as a convenience on my garage bench next to the compressor. Nice review!

[@RealToolReviews]

Wild Goose Thanks! Sometimes you just cant beat air! :)

[@MattsShop]

Those are cute. I bet they come in handy in those tight spots.

[@beanhead1130]

At 5:30 was that SP impacting when turning that bolt? It looks like it was impacting even though there really was not much torque on it.

[@EricChee]

just bought 3/8 version. much faster spin and impact action made my works easier. little bit more expensive compared to normal version but worth it!

[@RealToolReviews]

+Bong Keun Chee I agree! These are great!

[@dtrrtd774]

There was a reviewer on Amazon that said the torque on this is lower than the rating, and less than a standard air ratchet. Has there been any tests done comparing the two of the ultimate torque capability under equivalent conditions where the ratchet is braced against a stationary object and allowed to operate under air power alone? The spec for a Chicago Pneumatic air ratchet said it was only 15 ft-lbs, which would be significantly less than the 55 ft-lbs claimed on this. Maybe the guy that thought the standard was higher just applied the torque by hand after it locked up and stalled, and thought it was more output. Is this in fact higher output than the standard ratchets if running it under air power alone?

[@fee9687]

I didn’t realize standard air ratchets didn’t use impact mechanisms. They’re much quieter though it seems, and all are much quieter than electric impacts. You have any current videos on the current market and your preferences? Man it’s nice to see a smart guy not shilling just doing his thing

[@Jursaw]

These look super cool and are more efficient then a standard air ratchet.

[@RealToolReviews]

***** Thanks! I 100% agree!

[@ericduplantier9691]

That is nice I really like the no kickback action I was not in the market for one but after seeing your review I will be now. Thanks great video

[@RealToolReviews]

Eric DuPlantier Thanks! Yeah, that wrist-snapping really gets old quickly.....I like the fact that they coupled the impacting action with a ratcheting head, so you get the best of both worlds.

[@BF2Star]

Thanks for the review, but how did you not check the torque rating claim?

[@reefym2627]

Could you possibly review or compare air ratchets vs electric ones like Milwaukee 12v

[@whatfreedom7]

The Milwaukee is weak and slow so it would probably loose. Gen 2 is a little better I think.

[@TractorWrangler01]

I like the ratchet but I would have liked to see how controlable the torque is on them.

[@rickbecker3239]

Excellent review. I appreciate seeing the performance tests. Thank you very much.

[@airbrushingbynick6071]

A big difference would be with using different pipe sizes 1/4 and 3/8 hoses.(power)

[@akbychoice]

I find many times the deciding factor is my hand not fitting where the ratchet will go.

[@sethjones5250]

Can you review the sp-7730 full size 3/8 ratchet sometime?

[@JCunningham21]

i was looking at the MAC AR14RP same ratched just $110 for the MAC name on it

[@buzzj89]

Looks great, I'd but them, but can't use tools that loud where I live (unless absolutely necessary lol)

[@RealToolReviews]

buzzj89 Yeah, if noise is an issue.....almost all air tools are out! ;) haha

[@dtrrtd774]

Is there any spec or test on what the torque limit is on the ratchet when working it manually? Would you expect it to be able to remove a fastener of lug nut variety? (let's just assume you're manly enough to develop 120 ft-lbs from the pint size handle). Would it be able to handle it or is that considered tool abuse? I've been giving the Husky reactionless ratchet some sideways glances, as it seems this design isn't offered by very many manufacturers, so this SP is new to me. The runt size definitely offers added utility, but I just wonder how often I might need to run to another wrench for breaking things loose.

[@RealToolReviews]

Absolutely no chance.....this is for low-torque applications only.

[@dtrrtd774]

Fair enough- you've just triggered yet another impulse purchase on this thing- lol

[@dtrrtd774]

One attribute about the SP not apparent in the video that I particularly like is the sound of it compared to the high pitched whine of the air ratchets. It's much more pleasant sounding-

[@Nunya-gk9fr]

Got mine for $30 new in the box off eBay glad I didn’t pay full price honestly

[@whatfreedom7]

Why does it not work well?

[@sethsmithsethchampsmith6992]

I cannot find this model anymore? Any idea where to purchase IT?

[@castcor8532]

I totally agree, a lot safer than standard ratchets :) very very nice.

[@RealToolReviews]

CastCor Thanks!

[@chrischiampo7647]

Love these Air Rachets

[@fee9687]

Also what do you think between the impact drivers available ? Diy 12 or 18 Milwaukee or anyone else

[@viestursb7643]

Have you tried SP-7722A ratchet? What difference is between SP-1765 and SP-7722A ?

[@charlieretherford]

We're can you buy them from

[@kwd57]

Can you do another video that shows the difference in the actual torque between these small ratchets and the older large type. It looks to me by your demo, that the small ones have more speed, but no power. I have been very disappointed by the lack of performance of the cheap imports that are out there these days. Thanks for your videos.

[@RealToolReviews]

kwd57 These are not cheap imports by any means......if it appeared to have a lack in performance with the speed test, I would assume that it because I used a 3/8" to 1/2" adapter with a 1-1/8" socket on that threaded rod.....so with the impacting action, it was moving both of them individually with each impact. I noticed it a bit since I had been using these normally with the correct sized sockets only, but 3/8" drive sockets dont go up that high & I needed to improvise for the speed comparison.

[@dtrrtd774]

Would be fun to see a test I've seen where two guys were running their impacts on each side of long threaded setup with a flag to designate the finish line. The one that runs fastest and hardest overcomes the other for the win! How do you suppose the impacting ratchet would fare against the regular air ratchet?

[@24BLUEELMO]

what brand are the 1/4 sockets?

[@markbrisbin2183]

So I was on the mac truck the other day and wouldn't you know these were on the truck in black with MAC stamped on them. If you look in MAC's tool book almost all of their air ratchets and air grinders are made by SP Air. if MAC is willing to put their name on them they must be a very good tool company and make quality air tools.

[@RealToolReviews]

+Mark Brisbin SP makes tools for a LOT of companies....they are very high quality. Funny that you saw them on the tool truck though :)

[@doitle]

What brand / series were the shiny black sockets you were using in the size comparison?

[@RealToolReviews]

***** I assume you mean the 1/4" drive ones....those were Ingersoll Rand 1/4" impact sockets.

[@ivanbelen8917]

hi what is the name for the high flow fittings you have on all your tools?

[@RealToolReviews]

+Ivan Belen Generic brand (locally sourced).....but they are all 3/8" couplers/plugs with 1/4" NPT threads (screws into the tool with no adapters needed).

[@gerardovillarreall]

Great review...thanks.

[@xaviermondragon5470]

Where did you get that JEGS mat?

[@ethanwatters8704]

Xavier Mondragon Jegs

[@robe5000]

Cool, now let's see a power probe 4 review

[@RealToolReviews]

Robert Perry I will see what I can do...thanks for the suggestion!

[@Toolaholic7]

I might be looking in purchasing these.My Snap On FAR7200 has a lot of kickback.

[@RealToolReviews]

wafrederick Nice.....yeah the impacting action completely eliminates it.

[@Toolaholic7]

+Real Tool Reviews Going to do it,seen them in a Parts Plus flier .Luckily I know the guy whom does the stock order check writes it up as a cash deal

[@shawnj2319]

lol got one on the way from cornball hopping it's here soon been two weeks atm...im tired of cornwells bs tools

[@feidex]

Very nice reviews I about this company hear for the first time and this company looks very good and high quality and when I saw this ratchets I want one for myself because I had a small incident two years ago where I screw bolt with the ordinary chep ratchet and where I screw there was a very small space therefore needed to hold ratchets with one handed and ratchet was very powerful and my arm heand cut one side and my hand hit the metal and I broke one finger but now it is healed

[@RealToolReviews]

MP 10000 $ Ouch! A broken finger from a ratchet, the worst I ever get are bloody knuckles!

[@feidex]

I know that cheap stupid ratchet can not be used especially with one hand and bloody knuckles also not cool to got

[@georges7518]

Fantastic job man

[@RealToolReviews]

George S Thanks a lot George!

[@ambrest95]

супер

[@bighunterman77]

Those are actually pretty damned decent...I may have to get the 3/8 version...and you ain't the only one who ain't a fan of the air ratchet...I hate them... Now all they need to do is make one the size of a "normal" 3/8 air ratchet that can bust over 100 ft/lb loose...they'd sell billions

[@RealToolReviews]

bighunterman77 That would be a good idea! I hope they have it in the works at some point!

[@Kyle-qp3vt]

Good review.

[@RealToolReviews]

Si Bong Jang Thanks a lot!

[@nitrous07me]

That's all well and good but that ir air ratchet will take off tighter bolts than that sp air

[@RealToolReviews]

nitrous07me If the clearance is there to use it.....possibly. However, due to the size of a normal air ratchet, they cannot reach into places where the SP Air can go with ease. We just used these on a Honda timing chain job, and it was extremely easy to remove all the timing cover bolts very quickly and no busted knuckles.

[@stephenyoung3838]

Contact me if you want to know how to make a frankenratchet 25 inch long flex head 1/2 drive ratchet for 55$ compared to the 239$ Snap on model

[@firebladex8586]

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[@RealToolReviews]

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[@RobertJohnson-pb9vr]

People still use air ratchets? Get with the times man! Battery is where it's at! :-) I could see these being useful. However, having never used an SP brand tool they probably are going to have a difficult time pulling my IR's out of my hand. Thank you for uploading!

[@RealToolReviews]

Robert Johnson Haha.....yes they do! This is another one of those tools that you are not going to see a cordless version of....specifically since they are a unique & patented item. I think the feel/quality of the SP lineup is really nice, and it was good to see that they are Made in Japan. Thanks Robert!

[@LynxStarAuto]

Electric ratchets actually kind of suck. I own a full line up of 3/8 and 1/4 electric impact ratchets, and I prefer the air version to any of the electric ones. Electric ones are heavy, cumbersome, too big, and have a very annoying behavioral trait where the head continues to spin for a bit after you release the trigger. Not great if you are working with delicate fasteners, or with a part that uses a gasket which can easily get crushed: a valve cover comes to mind. Electric impacts have their place though, they are not all bad. But air is still the best way to go in most settings.

[@RobertJohnson-pb9vr]

+Lynx Star Automotive (Gabe V) I highly recommend Milwaukee's M18 3/8" fuel impact to you. It is light, has a small footprint, 200 ft lbs of torque, and an electric brake that stops the rotational force as soon as the trigger is released. Battery operated impacts have made amazing strides in the passed few years due in no small part to the innovation of Milwaukee, Bosch, and Ingersoll Rand. Don't get me wrong though, I still grab my air and give it a spin sometimes when changing tires in the garage, if just for no other reason then that the whirl of the air impact still puts a smile on my face. As Bob Dylan said though, the times are a changing.

[@LynxStarAuto]

Robert Johnson I have the Matco Infinium line of electric impacts. I suspect they are made by Milwaukee because the batteries are very similar, and the design of the tools in general are very similar. Anyway, I'm not 100% sold on electric impacts. They are good, but they will never replace air. Simply because air is much more efficient, cheaper, and more reliable. The electric impacts are only as good as the manufacturer who supports them, and the batteries will eventually die, and have to be replaced. Also, as the maker of this channel has mentioned before, batteries have a manufacturer shelf life. Meaning, it's not long before the manufacturer abandons them, and moves on to the "next great thing". Leaving you with a paper weight for a tool. Air impacts are immune to capitalism, and that just makes more sense to my pockets. Especially since vehicles are changing every day, and require new tools to service them constantly. The last thing I need to worry about is my electric impact (which costed twice the price of a pneumatic) is now obsolete. I didn't even get into repair either. Once the warranty expires (typically 1 year), you have to send out the tool for repair (down time) and typically will cost in excess of 100 dollars (I can buy a cheap pneumatic for that price). While electrics are nice, and convenient, they are not a replacement for air. They are simply an alternative. Both have their place, and if you are a professional, both should be in your tool box.

[@RobertJohnson-pb9vr]

+Lynx Star Automotive (Gabe V) I completely agree on most aspects of your contention! Both cordless as well as pneumatic tools are supreme in their respective areas of expertise. That being said, I do take a different outlook on the concept of air tools being "cheap". A nice compressor, set of impacts, hoses, fittings, water/oil separators, pneumatic oil, oil changes on your compressor, etc., do add up and can be pretty cost prohibitive for someone just entering the field/hobby.

[@Thomasjcolbert82]

I just bought this because of this video. I will see how it is.

[@mrcodesteez1211]

always quality videos good job

[@russwebster3302]

Must resist. Nice ratchets though.

[@RealToolReviews]

Russ Webster Resistance in futile.... ;)

[@jamesfrederick4810]

Q. I'm

[@СергейКарапузов-ц8ф]

ingersol rand only! Licota PAB-03017-BK1. cool

[@RealToolReviews]

Сергей Карапузов IR doesnt make these.....SP Air holds the patent on them.

[@GigaDonk]

Hmm HMmmm HHMMMMMMMM. I can only imagine using this rarely as the dewalt 20v impact wrench is faster (is it?) and also does get into some tight spots. Some areas that I need to use an acoustic ratchet, the bolts are small and don't really need much tq to break loose. This does look good though I want to buy one now dammit! btw I HATE air ratchets too. slooooooow, bulky and useless.

[@RealToolReviews]

GigaDonk For bolts with no clearance issues, I agree.....most of the time you would not be reaching for any air ratchet, and the impacts get the job done quickly. For any clearance or space issues though, many times you are stuck doing it by hand if you dont have the right tools (like this one). I have some new mini air ratchets coming up soon.....and I can say they are a big upgrade over the older giant versions that we are all used to.