Space Black M3 Max MacBook Pro Review: We Can Game Now?!

[@JeremiahBostwick]

I would love a 3 years on M1 Max video. Especially comparing it to both what’s out there on the PC side and the M3 Max. If you have the time to make it happen Marques, I’ll watch it.

[@Sn4k3f1st]

alien isolation is ported to mac? I have an m1 Pro and I'd love to have some heart attacks.. if my mac is enough :)@MA-ik7ys

[@wkkkxksjajsjd]

It's been 2 yrs

[@mikey9836]

My m2 pro can game. I play no man’s sky at 1440p enhanced settings at 120FPS with with performance quality enabled. I can target that performance while recording with OBS.

[@Ironhide1125]

why is bro saying 3 years when its barely been 2 lmao

[@Izeezus]

He actually said a few weeks ago he still uses his M1 Max as his daily driver with no plans of changing anytime soon. Would love to see him go more in-depth too

[@vidIQ]

Looking forward to Tim Cook quoting MKBHD at the next Apple Event: "I logged in and I cancelled my order and I will continue to daily what I have for the past three years now, with the M1 Max 16 inch Macbook Pro. Turns out it's not for me."

[@Techtinkerer3D]

They are probably gonna quote his last line where he states all the positives in one sentences.

[@November8888]

"Games thats i dont care about" Thats what i wanna see in the Apple event

[@vhines10]

If you were running a business like apple, would you do that?

[@Ultimatebubs]

Nah, Apple will just stick to quoting Engadget reviews instead. They almost never say anything negative about Apple products. Hell, up until a few months ago they were still defending Apple's decision to only include 8 GB of RAM in the base model of their new products.

[@devvytm]

They could but would spin it as a statement showing just how much superior their silicon has been that even 3 years later it is still a top of the line product.

[@PaulDavids]

1:16 is messing with my mind, and shows perfectly how the color looks way different on video, unless you have a proper reference. Props for showing that!

[@jelkk0349]

Yeah the moment he brings in the black surface the black macbook looks like space grey, but honestly I do wonder if this really matters all that much in a silo it looks fine and I don't think many people would be placing the macbook on a black surface often enough to see how non-black it is (unless you have a black desk that is)

[@polnapanda4934]

It looks still pretty black

[@vibek14]

Yes. I was almost thinking, "Not dark enough? What are you talking about Marques?....." Until I saw him compare it with the really dark laptop.

[@user-rt1nu8kz6x]

Yeah it looks so black at 1:11, and the color turn so light at 1:18😮

[@anyatwomingo]

i just wish he showed it beside the midnight colorway too

[@jaysonest95]

I really love you bro, whenever I need tech advice you have been the go to for the past decade

[@Mission2Immersion]

M1 feels like it was released yesterday and here we are now…

[@xiaoxinbenjy]

😂nah I'm already using it for 2 years😂

[@marwin4348]

Seems we did not go very far, considering there is no meaningfull difference and Marques literally canceled his order...

[@swagboss10000]

I recently got an M1 Pro device and it’s a beast.

[@Mission2Immersion]

@@marwin4348If this is what Apple can do in 9 months I think they should update their chipset every other year.

[@glimmerz3464]

@@swagboss10000been using a m1 ipad pro 12.9 since its release, love having a giant iphone i can draw on w/ extras silly features

[@DavidsOldChannel]

Makes me so happy to see a Tech KZbinr, as high as you, who just stays true to himself and doesn't keep pushing people towards buying stuff they don't need. One of the big reasons I still follow your channel and you specifically. There's already enough massive channels who are basically creating just ads that people watch voluntarily.

[@dangychoice7800]

the irony

[@christophermkim]

Yes, would also give kudos for sticking w/ your M1 Max MBP. Clearly you can afford it / could justify it, but don't need it, and so sticking with your old one. Cool in its own right!

[@VMYeahVN]

I think you're just watching the wrong people. There's literally so many tech KZbinrs who will tell you not to buy a product if it's shit. In fact, just as much as some KZbinrs just say "buy it" no matter what cause it gets views. There's just as many KZbinrs who know being super negative and shitting on everything gets views too. Marques is great but you really don't need to suck him off this hard.

[@petyaboy84]

I would be happy if major influencers raise their voice against pricing. RAM upgrade is almost 10 times more than should be. It is robbery and should be illegal!

[@ARealToothbrush]

And yet when it’s an ANDROID product people like MK go nuts for the products , the contradictions are there if you aren’t a fanboy.

[@manuel7607]

I'm glad more creators show that they keep using old hardware. That totally make sense and it's the way to go.

[@mickyJfan]

Still using my m1 air, I wanted to play some games so I just use Nvidia GeForce Now cloud gaming. Other than that the m1 air is still super good. I can have two windows of safari open with multiple tabs running, KZbin video playing, Spotify, and VScode for web dev on an external display simultaneously with no issues

[@npc2k]

@@mickyJfando you do any 4k video editing?

[@skateboarding118]

@@npc2kI used to with Filmora. Handled it just fine, long export times though, and would recommend getting a MBP for lots of special effects

[@skateboarding118]

But for simple 4K editing, no issue at all

[@teo__]

@@npc2kI’ve edited, finished and delivered to NBC universal and other three national TV networks in Europe a documentary shot in RAW with 9 cinema cameras using just a baseline mac mini M1 with 8GB of RAM and 256GB SSD. It was during the pandemic and that was what I had at home. Everything worked flawlessly without even making proxies. I would spend 3-4-5k only for a machine that really gives me more power in ray tracing when I do some 3D. But we are still not there.

[@DeeJayAdverb]

I just bought a M3 Pro Macbook pro with 18GB of RAM and i get it later today. I was upgrading from a late 2013 MBP. Thanks for the review!

[@lordnutjob9565]

How does it perform ?

[@李天洋-d6v]

really a different tier

[@beardfootofficial]

whoa dude! you are going to have your mind blown

[@KingB440]

Same upgrading from a 2014

[@DeeJayAdverb]

THE SCREEEN LOL@@beardfootofficial

[@TheMasterOv]

The white power brick is crazy 😂💰

[@drmedwuast]

It's so apple

[@adamorban6751]

White power brick

[@RHLW]

Bro you cant come in here talking about white power. Its not cool.

[@3ngan498]

Trash design, my brick fall off the outlet all the time

[@alflemon2783]

The what now?

[@axvan2158]

Despite Apple took him into account in its last event he says things as they should be. My Respect Marques!

[@thelarry383]

He's too big to be pushed around by companies.

[@Zarphag]

Dude so big he cancelled apple

[@GreatTaiwan]

@@thelarry383 any other big channel would have sold out we saw what happened with LTT lately sdly they are way bigger and my respect for them was waaaay higher then MKBHD dunno how to feel about what they done lately regarding the reviews and products agreement

[@007inLondon]

I love the success of this channel over the years, the humility of today and not throwing money at a spec bump. Kudos for the honest, upfront and measured approach to today's video.

[@flo0778]

I would not associate beeing an apple customer ready to upgrade his stuff every 3 years with "humility" and "not throwing money". But I guess it depends on your standards

[@ChochoLevi]

Thank you so much for the verdict. I was almost ready to upgrade from my M1 Max to a M3 Max. This saves money!

[@TechWizPrince]

It's great to see a tech reviewer like Marques say that you don't need to upgrade every year! And that you should continue to use your current setup since it's enough!

[@buddhavskungfu]

And follow through

[@dangychoice7800]

also awful to see him play games with a trackpad lol

[@stranger242]

Basically every tech reviewer doesn't recommend upgrading every year?

[@HanSoloxcs]

Nobody says you need to upgrade every year, you're just an idiot if you believe that in the first place or could be convinced of it otherwise.

[@abdulm_7]

He says that always. New or something? Or just dumb?

[@lukecatledge8376]

This is why we love MB. Honest, direct, clean. Love it

[@megapunchboy]

You forgot bhadiya. It is also bhadiya.

[@randomstorm1973]

MB = macbook or MB = marques?

[@alpha5124]

​@@randomstorm1973Marques Brownlee

[@richboyxoyd]

MB = Matte back?@@randomstorm1973

[@kyimo007]

only a new processor and a new color 🗿

[@Bushidounohana]

Wow-I was not expecting that conclusion! Definitely agree, even my meager 14” M1 Pro is still holding up quite well, fending off my usual update lust without even a second thought. Still great to see the tech moving forward, still love watching the reviews, but even more happy to find measured, more realistic assessments like this. Not many reviewers would tell you that they cancelled their own personal orders, opting to remain on years old tech, kudos!

[@SCRNSH0T]

I’m in the exact same boat! 16 M1 Pro is holding up perfectly and I can’t see myself updating for a bit.

[@naavidmorshed5516]

Meager m1 pro? I'm still using my m1 air 16gb 256 for full stack web development and it's still blazingly fast. Editing videos and playing games would be another thing tho. Otherwise I don't see why it won't serve me for at least 5 more years.

[@blackstormer95]

nothing meager about an M1 Pro chip

[@Ritik03148]

I would really like to know how the hinge is holding up coz in my last laptop(not a macbook 😅) that was the part that gave me a lot of problems

[@Keneo1]

Im still using my 2017 macbook pro, still working as it did when I bought it so still performing perfectly for me. I think i can give it a few years

[@epsig1507]

playing games with the touchpad? Absolutely barbaric

[@legendtoni1094]

He be rawdogging that game no mouse no external keyboard.

[@diegobrava]

Kkkkkkk

[@nuureTUBE]

He said he’s not invested in that game and he doesn’t care about it.

[@abdurrashid1156]

He was using a controller

[@Joker-fj8hg]

I actually like the black. It’s dark but still has the classic metallic feel. The only confusing thing is the name.

[@jonathancormack]

​@pikachuyt4198 what is wrong with you?

[@POVwithRC]

Space Greyer

[@yervandpapazyan4473]

I do not understand why especially United States Americans so much obsessed about color, talking about color color color color color color. Apple brought this dark color, it is called dark black, and starting discussion ‘’ noooo it's not dark black it's dark gray, okey we get it :) :) :) how can you talk about color 5 or 7 minutes, okay color is color okay forget it just mention about color for 2 seconds and move on why every KZbinr talking about color color. 3500$ machine which is made for professional work, everyone forgets the most important purpose of this machine starting review with color color😃

[@oh-noe]

@@yervandpapazyan4473 yeah it’s weird lol. When I went to pick up my m2 MacBook I didn’t even ask about color. I just got what the store employee gave me

[@i.amnasim]

Too lazy to read🫥

[@FeaturePeter]

Still rocking my 14" M1 Pro and it's been working just fine! Glad to see a tech reviewer not switching to the latest and greatest Macbook since the older Macbook is still chugging nicely along.

[@erubielalanis6658]

I got the 14” M1 Pro as well, honestly it was way overkill for what I use it for. Still happy with it, I don’t see me upgrading anytime soon.

[@GadgetsMania007]

😮

[@booya6437]

Exact same situation here as well. Base M1 MBP is such a powerhouse on it’s own, I just can’t justify upgrading for quite some time.

[@tony.cortez]

Same here, m1 pro base model. It is overkill fr.

[@subedinav]

I am happy now that you are reviewing things based on your needs too. This is a very good lesson for people to analyze their consumption and only buy things that they really need. That’s a way better step for Planet.

[@breezyashell]

Absolutely, the idea of upgrading a laptop within 1-4 years is ecologically disastrous.

[@hyppyrotta71]

Happy to see some people giving a thought to the environment in tech community which is riddled with unsustainable consumerism.

[@Wanderlust073]

This sort of thinking would literally bankrupt Apple. Despite all their hypocritical virtue signaling, if you aren't filling landfills with their products while encouraging them to exploit foreign labor their business model falls apart.

[@U2haveanicedayty2]

MKB had a good feeling about this and glad you did a Video exploring the differences between them.Thanks so much for sharing.✌️💯

[@itstaylermusic]

The moment he has been waiting for his entire life. A matte black MacBook.

[@isaiahschell]

Wellll, I guess he might have missed the 2009 MacBook launch notes?

[@KaizenOz]

2006 is calling

[@mikeb7117]

Err, it's not black.

[@miyagithedj]

Apple made a matte black MacBook from 2006-08

[@DanielSann]

A MattBook

[@leaningtower73]

Thanks Marques! This is the most honest review in the whole world of KZbin. You didn't just show off a super expensive M3 Max with benchmarks, you gave a real daily use opinion. You showed the whole consumerist world that money has value

[@GodIsLoveAndMerciful]

Apple M3 presentation was like "okay let's pretend the M2 macbooks don't exist" lol

[@elijahpierre1696]

And then they literally scrubbed them. 😂

[@Wanted797]

Yeah because most people don’t upgrade yearly.

[@neondemon5137]

​@@Wanted797OK Tim apple you shill

[@Bradarex]

yea they starting to do that wih everything , they dont compare with the chip from latest iphne , they do it with 2 or 3 gens older

[@Tamayo.Sama2023]

The need to look "innovating" for the stock market 💰💹

[@TechMyLifeVideo]

It always astonishes me that people say you’re not gonna buy this laptop if you want to play games. That might not be the primary reason you buy the laptop, but you might also like to play games and you might like to play games when you’re not at home, when you’re travelling. When you also need to do work like edit videos or graphic design or record music, and having a laptop that can also game makes sense.

[@IceBlueLugia]

Realistically if you’re into games you’ll need both this and a PC. If not, you’re stuck with the small selection of games on Mac. Many emulators are still stuck on windows and Linux too.

[@jiazhechen]

The part that I love MKBHD so much is that even though this guy can afford a Porsche without an eye-blinking, he still cares about his viewers and keeps making reasonable recommendations to them, which is to say us. This guy knows why we are watching this channel, for fun, of course, but also for recommendations when we really need to decide whether we should buy the latest model or not. Thank you MKBHD, for everything.

[@NjeleMolStudios]

❤❤❤❤❤

[@rsac43]

Literally every successful channel does this...

[@Tom_Stevens617]

​@@rsac43There's a reason he's not just one of the successful channels but _the_ most successful channel

[@6animegeek9]

@@Tom_Stevens617 not the most successful...

[@sanketjadhavar]

He can buy that porche in a blink because he cares for his viewers with limited means. If he didn’t, he couldn’t.

[@ProjectPaez]

I’m not a person that needs a very powerful laptop to do my job, but I’d definitely buy a powerful Mac for gaming if more games were available. It’s time for Apple to start investing in more and more deals with gaming companies to port as many games as possible.

[@dumbledoor4594]

I agree, I'm not a pro gamer, but I have enjoyed gaming my whole life. But I have also been a Mac fan. And I have not wanted to have two computers. So I have been one of the few, running Windows on boot camp and playing windows games on a Mac with a horrible FPS of sometime sub 10 in online Multi player games. I think there are more out there like me, that If Apple started taking gaming more seriously, they would find more customers willing to pay the Apple premium price, if it meant getting a great computer for work, that also supports the games to like to enjoy in your spare time. 😊

[@ConLLee]

Bro for real. I have a gaming pc and have for a long time. Several years ago, before the M1 happened, I bought a MacBook Pro because I needed a new laptop and I always wanted one (had money from insurance). macOS is fucking awesome. Super smooth and the gestures on that big wonderful trackpad were amazing. MacBook trackpads are just *chefs kiss*. Anyway I loved that thing but ended up selling it because I had an iPad Pro and honestly I didn’t need both. If these new MacBooks with crazy M3 (etc) chips, that can perform insane numbers for how small the laptops are, could actually play video games as they came out just like pc can, I think a lot of people would consider buying them because then MacBooks would be an insane all around portable computer. Might even get some money from me haha. Gaming pc laptops of similar performance would not be as slim as a MacBook which is a selling point.

[@nullskull6860]

Mac has and always will be trash for gaming

[@Fahodinho]

they should buy blizzard

[@xadxtya]

@@nullskull6860Unless they can somehow convince game developers to be able to export for ARM CPUs or improve their translation layer

[@coopers_]

Thanks Marques! I feel better about the deal I got on eBay last week. For $2075, I got a 16-inch macbook pro with m1 max 64gb 1tb 32gpu. It has apple care until Jan 2025. It is in excellent condition and its battery only has 22 cycles. The Apple Trade In value for this machine is only $1355, so this was a win for the seller and me.

[@viniciusbilheri]

Nice find man!

[@LBrisk01]

That was a good scoop

[@nokiaairtel5311]

Damn, that was great ! Why did the person sell it with only 22 charge cycles? Upgrading ?

[@coopers_]

@@nokiaairtel5311 They said they recently lost their job and were low on funds.

[@chiefjudge8456]

You wasted your money. What MKBHD said was more geared toward people who already had one of the older machines. Buying an outdated machine now is silly, you could've got a much better M3 Max for a similar price.

[@lantern214]

For those who play World of Warcraft, the M3 pro avg 120 fps steady on retail. In raids with DBM and weakauras, I averaged 110 and the rare low 80 fps with settings at 7. On classic its 120 fps steady no matter what im doing. The fans stay silent, and my battery is well above 10 hrs. Just something to think about if your primary game is Wow. For FF14 its 80 fps in savages, 60 fps cities, and this is with visual mods. Hope this helps and always remember to Zug Zug.

[@pennym1056]

For the horde!

[@why_tho_]

Love how to the point the sponsor segment was. Really goes to show the priorities of Visible and Marques.

[@octane8k]

Great decision Marques. I have a Macbook Pro M1 Max 32GB 1TB and it has everything I need. I won't update for years. In fact, I switched to Silicon because I had an iMac i7 32 GB 1TB 27 inches and I moved to Silicon to have macOS and Adobe Creative Cloud updated, but until last year when I bought the Macbook Pro I worked with High Sierra and Adobe CS6. All the best.

[@KarimMaassen]

I have the exact same MacBook. It’s still blazingly fast. No need to upgrade.

[@blaise_exclusive]

I make tech videos just like mkbhd would preciate it if you gave them a shot

[@lance31415]

I upgraded from a 2014 Intel MBP to a 2023 M2 MBA. It's better in every possible way. At this rate my next machine will be an M11-based MBA (in something like the new Candy Apple (Pink)). Marques will say the upgrade from an M10 machine is only moderately impressive, but for me it will be amazing.

[@daviddicicco3940]

This is super helpful, as always. Super clear, entertaining, concise and useful. Thank you!

[@myong9]

I was really on the fence about trading in my M2 Pro 14' simply because of the space black and the small bump in specs. I watched numerous videos on the new M3 and now finally with watching your video, I realize there is no reason for me to upgrade. I would be just wasting money on a superficial upgrade. Your honesty in your videos is what has kept me a long time subscriber. Peace!

[@mikivli]

yeah your m2 pro will last you for like 10 years, it’s easy to fall into marketing even with specs when in most cases you won’t be maxing it out what you already have (which is overkill already) keep that up and it’ll save you money yearly. easier said than done but you can do it. appreciate it and just be grateful💪🏼🦍🦋

[@iamdave84]

Dbrand it and choose a new wallpaper. It'll feel like a new laptop 😉

[@daandelombaert4647]

@@mikivli True words! My previous MBP lasted me 10 years, just ignore all the hype and marketing and you're good to go ;-)

[@Andrew-pv8oz]

I was just about to call you a sheep before I read the rest of your comment

[@chiefjudge8456]

Your M2 Pro is outdated, sorry. He's just saying that because he has beef with Apple for some reason.

[@Mondballer_00]

Would be great if you could delve into the issue of thermo throttling (as it was with the M2), and 8GB of RAM offered for a baseline "Pro" laptop, the slower memory modules built into the lower spec Macs. I think if you covered topics like these more, show the benchmarks running and some live tests it would be greater value-add than just talking about the device as if you were holding a second keynote.

[@verynice9595]

There are lots of other channels for exactly that to be fair 😊

[@phpART]

it’s his style, and a better alternative for watching the keynotes 😜

[@oferfuchs5179]

If you're going to be buying a baseline Pro machine with only 8GB or RAM, you're better off saving your money and just going for the MacBook Air. Slightly related, it's ridiculous that Apple still offers a baseline machine (ANY machine) with only 8GB of memory. They can spin it however they want about the memory efficiency and utilization of the OS. It's still entirely insufficient.

[@jeffwilliams1912]

In summary, he did base on comparison to the m1. You don't have to be so techy always when money is on the line. He has been using the m1 and tried the m3. there is not much difference. This is more of an advice video, not spec

[@SomeThingElseYT]

Apple does seem to focus hard on this new line of products when it comes to gaming. Question, do games only confirm to work on macs if they are approved for the app store? And if so would this not be the thing shooting them in the foot since steam is practically every PC gamers go too?

[@notro9]

Steam exists on the Mac too; you can install games from anywhere. MacOS is not limited to App Store like iOS.

[@verynice9595]

And some games you don’t have to buy twice. Baldurs gate 3 can both be installed on your Mac and pc via steam

[@dangychoice7800]

even he isnt focusing hard on gaming, hes playing games with a trackpad he doesnt care either he just needs some video

[@mrskibum885]

steam is great and has mac support for decades. you can filter by which games run on mac. baldurs gate 3 is a recent game which runs great on my m1 max mbp. so to answer your question, no. plenty more options available through steam (or other stores).

[@zizhdizzabagus456]

The thing is pc computing also gonna migrate to arm. Means they will get way more compatibility with m series of apple. Games will be way easier to port for same architecture

[@TechKid14]

I upgraded to the 14in M3 Max (14 CPU, 30 GPU, 36GB RAM, 1TB SSD) from a base model 2018 Intel Macbook Pro Touch Bar. It got to the point where my fans were ramping up while just browsing the web and screen mirroring content. I am excited I did though. I always felt that macbook was holding me back performance wise. Video editing on it was slow and inefficient (crashed a lot or space issues). Its nice have a computer that doesn't cook your legs while performing basic or PRO tasks. I also used some discounts to lower the price while trading in my older macbook as well. Apple gave me $310 for the macbook, and my student discount brought the price down from $3199 to $2899. Out the door price was $2802.59

[@troyclayton]

1:22 Perception of darkness depends on the surface sheen. Lower sheens look less black in high light at most angles (light is scattered by the finish). Trust me, I just got done making sheen samples for a customer- the flat sheen of the same black looks grey in sunlight compared to satin and semigloss. Until the higher sheen is viewed from that angle and makes it looks almost white.

[@koopstanick1710]

Interesting

[@sidewaysfcs0718]

But it also depends on the chemistry or the surface, Aluminum is not black, so surely there is something black that was applied to the surface in anodization.

[@iamdave84]

I've recently found that black chalkboard paint is the mattest of the mat blacks. You paint glossy plastic with that and it looks like black rubber!

[@dvil51]

Really impressed. By you sticking with your M1 Max. I’m inspired.

[@OatsJenkins]

6:16 referring to every single other task and ability a computer can do as "non games" is really funny to me

[@zrt2575]

Completely agree with your outcome on keeping the M1. The space black definitely tempted me, a lot, but for what I do my base 16" M1 Pro is still more than enough, and I was lucky enough to get it for half off MSRP as an open-box item from Best Buy. When the M3 Max 30-core/40-core GPU is available in open-box for close to half off, I will probably do that and sell the M1 Pro to hopefully take a big chunk off that cost. I want that color! Thanks for the great video as always.

[@massive_droner]

How do you get lucky enough to find open box macbooks? Just ask the Best Buy desk? Or do you have to work there (or other laptop stores)/know someone there?

[@adriantrujillo9647]

@@massive_dronerask about open box at any Best Buy store if your lucky there will be one available at your local area

[@MrRandyMarsh1]

What’s this whole open box thing?

[@bubb-t5e]

@@MrRandyMarsh1 used returned merchandise

[@MrRandyMarsh1]

@@bubb-t5e thanks

[@maxresdefault_]

I've been a PC user all my life who edits 1080p video for work, the M1 Air seemed like a fine option for me when it first released. Three years later, I still see value in the M1

[@jonathan__g]

The way he caught the phones during the sponsor spot was very impressive. I guess its all that ultimate frisbe playing that hes doing

[@jsterbeast]

I’d enjoy a comparison of the M1 Max and the M3 Max

[@GadgetsMania007]

U beasty 🫶

[@Krellan]

Great video. One of the things I use Mac graphics capability for, is driving many large external monitors. The limitation here is the lack of USB-C ports, not the GPU power the Mac has. I really wish Apple would make a Mac laptop with more USB-C ports, especially as they took away one of them already for the MagSafe power slot. For fast and reliable video, you really need to dedicate a port to it, and not use any kind of splitter or daisy chain, so the number of ports you have limits the number of monitors you can hook up.

[@ColinBenjamin]

In what scenario would you need more than 3 large monitors hooked up directly?

[@Krellan]

@@ColinBenjamin Not just monitors. I used 2 of the USB-C ports for one monitor each, because for various reasons video wouldn't work unless it was a dedicated unshared connection. That left only 1 remaining USB-C port for everything else.

[@ColinBenjamin]

@@Krellan I guess so, but…. What else are you plugging in? The charger is separate and you have a dedicated SD card reader. For me that’s +1 USB-C over my 2017 Touch Bar since I often would be using 1 port for charging and 1 port for an SD converter leaving just 2 available for anything else.

[@hoonehhr]

Yeah, I would like to see it’s gaming capabilities in a seperate video, it would be interesting to see what the m3 can actually run

[@dangychoice7800]

hes playing games with a trackpad he doesnt care he just needs some video

[@VishnuKamath]

If a KZbinr like MKBHD doesn't need this Machine, then I am sure the 99% of us will not need it. Respect for staying true to the community.

[@LoneBeastYT]

Could also be the case that since he already has a mac studio it has already encompassed his high end workflow based on it and uses laptops more for their portable entertainment. Pretty sure anyone who uses their laptop as an exclusive computing device for high end workflow that doesn't game (and also provided the person is rich enough go for top end) I think its for them. Then again those people are also probably fewer than 1% soo your statement may as well be still true

[@studiothree]

yeah, the honesty is extremely refreshing and why we come back every time

[@Joshua-gc4ps]

We need to compare all the M chips at all the ram capacity. Would probably help a lot of people

[@srm3k]

And how about showing comparison charts against current Intel and amd chips.... not 3 year old tech, wtf.

[@MaxFung]

Just upgraded from my 2014 MacBook Pro which was burning my thighs and not able to run software I needed for work. I now have the M3 Pro, and wow, it's amazing. I wouldn't upgrade from an M1 Max, but for people looking to buy from an older MacBook, this is an easy W.

[@Isaacduarte31]

as someone that never owned a mac and has always used a pc & gaming pc, switching to the m3 pro macbook was the best decision i made. really love it and its only my 3rd day having it. i didnt get the super maxed out option yet but this option super solid for me producing music and editing rn.

[@alexejvornoskov6580]

So you decided to give up on gaming? O_o

[@Isaacduarte31]

na I got a beast gaming pc for editing and gaming. plus I got a ps5. I wouldn't use Mac for gaming cause that doesn't seem to compete with a custom build pc@@alexejvornoskov6580

[@charadreemurr1083]

honestly SUPER good call when talking about the colour to compare it to an actual really dark black laptop, because before that one came into frame, my eyes actually saw it as darker than it really is. maybe thats just the camera effect, but the contrast truly amazed me when i saw the space black appear completely different when placed next to the old grey and the "control" black laptop

[@AstrogatorX]

Does anyone know what model it was? This 'control' black laptop?

[@Jbelle712]

Been watching your videos since the iPhone 5S and your growth is truly immaculate. Every video is amazing and I can never get enough of them man!

[@Caffiness]

Moved up recently from my old intel i5 to this, been working awesome so far and doesn't heat up at all which is bloody amazing. Thanks marques!

[@neokumar6146]

I would love to see a long-term review of the MacBook Pro. As someone who also has the M1 Max, there is not a single thing I can complain about other than the battery life not being what it was from 2 years ago.

[@RubmaLione]

Same, my battery life has taken a bit of a nosedive since when I first got it. Otherwise, it's still incredibly fast.

[@supercar2131]

I’m proud of you holding back upgrading. I feel like a good amount of tech ppl would upgrade bc you did but instead ppl will hold on and that is really good for the earth.

[@dusan600]

Apple doesnt giving af about the earth lol

[@sunsetgaming2498]

It would be exciting to see a separate video on gaming on the Macs with Apple Silicon, the potential there is, and what you think Apple has to do to succeed in creating a gaming platform for high-end gaming across all of their devices

[@dangychoice7800]

hes playing games with a trackpad he doesnt care either he just needs some video

[@Alex-kn7cb]

You know it’s a realistic Mac review when it’s mostly about the new color

[@DojoOfCool]

Well you helped me finally decided on which Macbook Pro to buy. I mainly wanted a Macbook Pro for the better screen and speakers and a performance boost. So been checking out all the spec's of the new M3's and Apple it really is a strange set of config juggling they've done. So after your video I checked Apple's refurbished Mac and got a MacBook Pro 14" M1 Max with the RAM I wanted and 4 TB drive for way less than a M3. Since I mainly do music the M1 Max has all the performance I need for working with DAWs. So thanks.

[@lucasjames8281]

You literally could have just got the pro. The max only has extra GPU cores, none of which your daw will use

[@MusicZtorm]

For music production, in the order of importance : cpu cores ! , ram (if lots of samples, Konact librairies), fast disk (but the majority of ssds are good enough nowadays). M3 Max with 16 cores is very interesting for music production imho. Anyway, i'm glad that you've found the right computer for you :)

[@occasus7964]

@@lucasjames8281 pretty sure the pro only supports 1 external monitor.

[@chiefjudge8456]

You wasted your money. He was more talking about the people who already had the old machines, and even then it was just his opinion. There is absolutely no reason to buy an old and outdated M1 Macbook Pro this late though when you can get much better M3 Macbook Pro for a similar price.

[@lucasjames8281]

@@chiefjudge8456 you can get aftermarket / refurb Macs for much much less than a new m3

[@ducphan689]

This content is pretty objective and honest, to the point that I even watch the sponsor part. Now I wonder if somebody is using these machines for serious works like optimization, realtime image processing.

[@alexanderzhulin3528]

They do almost tripled rendering performance in Redshift. From ~ 4500 M1 Mac to ~ 13000 M3 Max. Which is about as fast as desktop 3070 Ti. This improvement is actually makes mac useable for light to medium 3D graphics.

[@hel-my-mjk-j4u-hfx]

It can already do extremely high graphics

[@anotheraly]

@@hel-my-mjk-j4u-hfx Macs are almost unusable for real high end 3d. And I say this as someone who loves my mac and wish I could do really intense 3d/ VFX on it. But their GPU power just isnt good enough. Maybe one day

[@alexanderzhulin3528]

@@hel-my-mjk-j4u-hfx not really, not even close to CUDA renderers.

[@Cceptus]

Honestly amazing that I sit and actually watch your videos all the way through. Great work.

[@RicardoBrazil15]

We would love a video comparing this laptop to the 3-year old M1 Max .

[@DimitriMoreira]

Well, it performs as a M1 Ultra, which is double performance from the M1 Max, so there's your comparison.

[@AndreasAbb]

The M1 Max is pretty exactly 2-years old. ;-) And I don't think comparission is so easy, it heavily depends on the application. I own a M1 Max and if the M3 Max would perform twice as fast in the apps I need (like Davinci Resolve) I would really consider buying it. But what I've heard yet it's more like a 20-40% increase in performance, which really isn't enough for me to throw another 5k at Apple.

[@SamKimsey]

I think this may be the time to upgrade my 2013 iMac 😂

[@thegreatpremmm6504]

It would be a cool video talking about the state of Mac gaming, like you said at 4:38. Your content is 10/10,keep it up👌

[@dangychoice7800]

hes playing games with a trackpad he doesnt care either he just needs some video

[@MattScharff]

Dude that crew neck looks so clean

[@shanemooon]

marques playing an rpg with the trackpad might be the most psychopath thing i’ve ever seen.

[@ben.harnwell]

I'd love to see a good comparison of games on the M3 - would be great to see how the base M3Pro goes with things like Baldur's Gate 3

[@gesucristo2357]

MrMacRight for anything gaming related

[@DenisLevchenko]

that insane single-core CPU performance should probably do really well in Act III

[@ben.harnwell]

@@gesucristo2357 thank you I’m very new to Mac land

[@dangychoice7800]

hes playing games with a trackpad he doesnt care either he just needs some video

[@RubenMaciel]

Marques playing games with the trackpad 😅 skill lvl over 9000

[@spht9ng]

You actually can because the MacBook trackpad drivers still track your fingers perfectly even when you’re using the keyboard. Usually windows touchpad drivers don’t allow this

[@horebtk947]

As someone with the M1 MBP, im keeping this thing for two more years. Never have I ever experienced a lag or a problem with this thing. It's aboslotuly amazing.

[@mushie1221]

Thank you for your honesty in this and I'm proud of you for going against the grain and upgrading just for the sake of upgrading because it's new and shiny. Your reach on this "mine's good enough" approach is so great for the environment.

[@MaxBabilunga]

Lies of P is great, really glad they released it on Mac. Completed the whole game on my M1 Pro, loved the experience. I had around 60 fps on middle settings and 1080p

[@SaxonFaust]

I beat it on the Xbox game pass free trial

[@nav579]

Apple is gearing up for AAA titles on the Mac, from what I remember them talking about in one of their presentations. They were working with Unity and some gaming studios to get more games ported to the Mac, if I remember right. So it’ll probably take a few more years, but I hope they get there.

[@MarkRobbz]

Unity has been a big partner of Apple since 2005 so it makes sense.

[@solarissv777]

Unity basically, committed suicide by their policy change. If they want AAA, they should work with Epic Games and the unreal engine, oh wait...

[@lawkig]

not really, Windows ARM will absolutely smoke the M series by then

[@frg96]

Death Stranding Director's Cut

[@solarissv777]

@@lawkig I wouldn't so sure. I see no reason for the developers to make versions of their apps for it, especially for professional apps. Those, who need them will still be able to use x86/64 versions. And Microsoft will never abandon x64, due to shit ton of legacy software that has to be supported, and don't forget of shit ton of business specific self written soft, that Microsoft has no idea about, but that relies on their API and is used to control important processes. Thus, unlike Apple Microsoft will never be able to focus just on the ARM architecture, and 3rd party developers will have less incentives to write for it.

[@gfunkonthecheesetree]

To be able to have a M3 Max would be a dream. Still on a late 2011 model and cannot upgrade past High Sierra

[@jochemcasier6974]

I can't applaud your choice to stick with the M1Max enough! Learning to value what is already in your possession is so much better on every scale than wanting to upgrade to every new thing all the time. You setting the example for millions of people can have a profound impact on our way of consuming. It's up to consumers to demand slower product cycles and higher quality products.

[@kevin_mitchell]

There's nothing wrong with yearly upgrade cycles, not everyone upgrades in the same year as everyone else. My upgrade cycle was 2009 and 2017. It is now 6 years old. Are you saying that if I decided to upgrade this year I should upgrade to a system that is already 3 years old because upgrade cycles have been arbitrarily set at 3 or 4 year intervals or whatever is your preferred anniversary date for upgrades based on when you last purchased a product? No, when I upgrade, I want to upgrade to the latest version possible.

[@jochemcasier6974]

@@kevin_mitchell upgrade cycles of many products have been getting shorter and shorter, creating tons of e-waste. Would you buy a new vacuum cleaner or a new microwave oven each year? Yeah, probably not because people expect those things to last, and when they don’t, they might change brands after a negative experience. There is often just too little focus on longevity and sustainability of our products, while, say 40-50 years ago this was key in our purchasing choice. The fashion industry is the leading power in cycle-shortening but other companies follow this growing trend. Fashion has gone from 4 seasonal development cycles to currently sometimes 24. Like, would you still make the same statement if macs were upgraded every 6 months, or 3 months? I get what you are saying but humanity just doesn’t benefit from leapfrogging hat fast. And considering your example, well, yes, if the upgrade cycles were set further apart, you’d get much better general support and updates and you’d be fine updating from a 2009 model to a 2013 model in 2017 for example because it’d still be pretty cutting edge, 3 to 4 years is a lot though but I think we could be fine with 2 years for many products. Also, the key thing I wanted to point to was his choice to stick with the 2 year old machine and not upgrading because of a color change and a barely noticeable spec bump.

[@blaise_exclusive]

I make tech videos just like mkbhd would preciate it if you gave them shot

[@TheNetflixNook]

I'm in a weird spot. I've got a 2016 Macbook Pro, and it's still impressive. I know these newer M series chips are that next step up, but until I can justify the switch, I'm happy to keep on with what I've got. In 2026, a decade later, maybe I'll finally make the switch, but until then, I don't see it happening.

[@hireathecho4]

Just keep using what you have until it can't function anymore! Newer, better things come out every year, no reason to upgrade unless you actually need something new.

[@joeybusnardo5866]

Still using my Mid 2012 Macbook pro that I bought in 2012. Only upgraded the Hard drive for an SSD and upgraded my RAM Memory. Works like a charm

[@matsalemme3291]

So excited for this review 🙌

[@necondaa]

But you didn’t even watch it

[@Epicgamer_Mac]

Me too

[@Epicgamer_Mac]

@@necondaaHe’s going to…? Just being nice first

[@RecycledOJ]

I've been using an M1 Max MBP for a while now, that I got from Apple's refurb store and have still been incredibly happy with it. Great hearing your perspective on it vs. the new M3 stuff!

[@chesterthomas146]

Great video! I've never owned a Mac and just switched to iPhone, so I went forward with a M3 Pro, since I figured I might as well get the newest model for my first one. For anyone who already has an M model Mac, it totally makes sense not to upgrade yet.

[@hobosnake1]

Quite honestly, as someone who is buying a new laptop and can't quite afford the newest, I really do like how the M3/M2 Macbooks look. They look aesthetically so beautiful, and that way smaller bezel on the new macbooks alone would make it worth it to me. In a year from now, I'll be out of a tough financial situation, but yeah. I really don't feel bad at all about buying an M1 macbook. They're still entirely overkill for the average consumer and for what I want to do on a laptop. Enjoy! I'm thinking of switching from an s22 ultra to iphone. How are you liking all the apple stuff? I dont fiddle with my tech much anymore and I'm just bored of samsung.

[@flo8517]

⁠@@hobosnake1hello, allow me to answer in this fellows stead. Switching from Android (had a OnePlus 5) to an iPhone 11 was such a good decision. Of course my Oneplus wasn’t the latest at that time but holy shit my iPhone blew me away i loved it from day one. I’m very organised (i like stuff to have a orderly look) so iOS played right into this and actually encouraged me to use more of it’s capabilities and features to get more organisation and benefit out of it. Never have i missed anything besides the Google keyboard (you’ll get used to it after a while) and maybe a bit better file manager but it’s okay i need it only from time to time. This was all 2020. Now 2023 my 14 pro is now an year old (yes my 11 retired after 2 years) and i love it even more. iOS is getting better with every update and my iPhone perform crazy good. Now i’m about to make the same decision you are making. Deciding what my first Mac is going to be (then my family of iPhone, iPad, watch, airpods and apple tv will be complete). I’m probably also gonna go for the 16” M3 pro MacBook pro cause i kinda feel like getting the latest instead of buying refurbished M1 or 2. It’s way more expensive but i kinda feel better thinking about that. I have by no means problems with refurbished since i bought my iPad Pro 2018 that way but idk i kinda want a new macbook now. Anyway that’s my 2 cents about this. Edit: oh and also there are two M1 MacBook Pro version when it comes to the design and port situation. One with the old design (less ports and no notch) and one with the new design (more ports and sleeker notch design) wich Mkb is using as well. I’m sure you’ll find good refurbished M1 Pro MacBook Pro deals. Ah shit maybe i should reconsider as well…but the M3 pro… ah man drives me nuts it’s so stupid lmao

[@Kostofer]

Apple silicon was truly revolution, i work as web developer and switched temporarily from my intel mac mini into m1 macbook air base model due to my prolonged asia trip, i am still rocking this laptop for over 2 years now, sometimes i am lacking a bit of RAM but i found my ways to optimise my software stack to the point it is not an issue anymore, there is still absolutely no competition for those robust machines. Tho i hope to see some from intel in near future, competition is good for the market.

[@Kyzerii]

1:05 its wayy darker than the old space grey. putting that that next to this new black makes the old one seem silver

[@wtfnahmean]

Since the m3 launched I had been looking for used macs on the market; Eventually got a m2 pro 16" for $1400 to replace my base model m1 mac mini. what a great deal, over 100% increase in prores/h264 performance (which is crazy, I thought the m1 was pretty good), love every bit of it. Like marques says spend your money wisely people!

[@jobiej7416]

Which website did you use?

[@wtfnahmean]

@@jobiej7416 Some local marketplace in Hong Kong. Best thing it's still in warranty! The seller bought it in March ($2500 brand new), and the thing depreciated almost 50% in a few months. Honestly I never understand how people justify buying brand new devices--unless you absolutely need the new feature / performance for work. Personally I like to go for higher-end products from one to two years ago, usually in great condition, a bit slower than current gen but MUCH cheaper

[@albertd1792]

The moment apple announced hardware-accelerated ray tracing on the iPhone I immediately thought about the possibility of playing Minecraft with ray tracing on a phone

[@goodify8302]

That's exactly what I was thinking of 😅

[@1ron0xide]

Marques is so helpful. I'm on Medicare and Social Security and I find it overwhelming to replace a computer or even a phone. His channel helps a lot. Thanks Mr Brownlee!

[@creativepicnl]

Im using an M1 Pro and I’m still blown away by it. I saw the supersaf compare and it sketched a pretty good image on the differences between the max models. In my opinion, a costly upgrade like this one wouldn’t be necessary. I wouldn’t upgrade for the color 😅. I guess companies like Dbrand can hook you up.

[@Lunarspear2023]

Same here, i have my m1 pro and i still use it, i can game prob anything i love with crossover, ill switch in 3-4 generations haha

[@grorr526]

5:04 No way you are playing a game with the trackpad.

[@boyko-digital539]

I appreciate your honesty in not trying to sugarcoat the situation. Your review was thorough and provided helpful comments. I am curious to know how your opinion would impact Apple's sales. Personally, I own a MacPro 16 M1pro and it meets all my needs and more, so I don't see any reason to upgrade anytime soon.

[@hobosnake1]

It's funny. Most people I know buying macbooks right now are buying M1 models. There's no point for most people to get anything better than that. Why spend 1500-2000 on something that's overkill when you can spend 500$ on a macbook air, or 600$ for an M1 Pro, which are both still entirely way too overkill for 95% of consumers?

[@randyjimenez127]

Thank you for always keeping it 100.

[@Krishnendulaha]

Gaming on Mac looks extremely promising with 8 GB of RAM and 256 GB of Storage. Kudos to Apple!!!

[@Theonevidz]

hahahah

[@chirag4382]

Yeah that 2 games looking real nice..

[@al0len]

Yeaah! I’m finally able to play Apple Arcade

[@AzaitheaHenderson]

Guys where do I get a good discounted deal on this wonderful gadget ?

[@goldenskull7178]

I looked into MacMall ...however no great deal as of now

[@JohanFlodqvist]

You are right. I am not buying a Mac for gaming, I have a desktop for that. However, since I'm already spending around 3000€ every other year on a new Macbook, I would be super happy to be able to play a few games with my kid when out travelling, but I'm not buying a PC laptop just for that. So having the option to play might actually be the reason why I'd upgrade my existing Mac even tho I'm still pretty happy with the performance of my M1 14" in general.

[@planefan082]

Not to be that guy, but you buy 3,000€ laptops AND replace them every 2 years??

[@JohanFlodqvist]

@@planefan082 I usually try to buy almost new machines but on the used market. So in reality it's probably more like 2000€ each time. But yes, since I go thru a battery cycle a day I'm somewhere around 7-800 battery cycles after around 2 years and that's the limit for how long I will hold on to one. Honestly, I probably sell it after 18 months since it's way easier to sell a computer at around 500 cycles than at 750 or so. Since I'm using the computer a fair bit, I think it's pretty reasonable that it costs me around 80€/month or so in avrage to have a good laptop.

[@MeenPo786]

yeah, beats me!@@planefan082

[@dangychoice7800]

hes playing games with a trackpad he doesnt care either he just needs some video

[@dayvie9517]

Keep the 3000 bucks for your kid. Or get a steam deck for mobile gaming and keep 2k atleast. Dont waste 3k for this silly reason.

[@yue-bt1mk]

This is my first time watching an English video. Thank you for giving me confidence that English is not as difficult as I imagined

[@JXSMS]

Still it’s really impressive that M3 Max’s Geekbench multicore score surpasses even that of M2 Ultra. Such gains feel unreal. I have a M1 Ultra Mac Studio, but a M3 Max MBP would make so much sense, which I would never have considered with the M2 generation. It seems a pretty solid improvement instead of just a refresh.

[@rabtecho]

Been waiting for this review! 🙌Really appreciates honestly and M chips are too good💯 Never owned Mac so this one going to be my first Mac 🤩 Great video as always! 🔥

[@percyvey]

I would love more reviews on monitors and speakers!

[@FinneasJedidiah]

5:17 is he using a TRACKPAD to play a videogane???

[@Dwarkd_2436]

D gret sin

[@gsus3918]

5:10 touchpad gaming , bruh cmon...

[@shacrushataylor5215]

I think this update is for people upgrading from intel base Macs the most, because to them it would be scary fast. All in all great stuff.

[@Icingdeath786]

A gaming PC/laptop video would be awesome. Maybe the waveform podcast is a good idea? Andrew and David are into that stuff right? Anyhoo, cool video as always! Keep em coming

[@Mattribute]

I got the M1Air, the least of the new wave of Apple SOC macbooks. For me it’s about writing, reading, web and watching movies. That machine, which even with the 16G/500G expansion was not too expensive is almost perfect even now. I just wish the screen was brighter. For a low-power user like me it’s such a great product. I’m just going to keep rolling with it and game on my desktop.

[@GrumpyBearU_U]

I've got the exact same MacBook and setup with a desktop pc for gaming and I have no need to upgrade anytime soon. I can even do some photo editing or graphic design work on the M1 Air no problem. So even for some light productivity it's totally capable. Such a well made machine.

[@dataslid]

I code with this, backend, no Xcode n it’s perfect

[@RoccoSaldana]

As a PhD in Computer Engineering who daily uses a M1Max with 64 GB of RAM, I was tempted to upgrade to a M3Max. Both the "perceived" true midnight black laptop color and the upgraded hw created a want in me. I am glad I listened to reason and your video confirms I made the right choice. I'm probably going to upgrade to the M4Max thou. I normally keep laptops 3-4 years and desktops 5-6 years. Great video, good sir. On a side note, I game on a Windows desktop with a LG 45" UltraGear™ OLED Curved Gaming Monitor WQHD with 240Hz Refresh Rate 0.03ms Response Time and a 4090...

[@saravaneerde6164]

Interesting, I have gotten at least 8 years out of my MBP models. I hope to get 6 to 7 with M1 MBA.

[@ashishnmbr]

Not sure why you'd mentioned your educational qualification when it added nothing to the conversation, but okay.

[@fusionxframes.]

@@ashishnmbrhe just wanted to share that he is a heavy mac user and needs more computational power on his tools. Don't be bitter. 😊

[@CarloMarinangeli0]

​@@ashishnmbrnot sure why he mentioned the specs of his monitor either