Space & Depth Keys & Making the Existing Keys to locks

[@geraldskinner63]

Love the random Lite beer can in the heap. You are a Rock star my friend!

[@selock]

Ha, that was from when I was a teenager and found the tshirt in a can promo they did one year. I never got the wrinkles out of that shirt from being stuffed in a can

[@pjdambra]

15 years making keys and I still use space and depth key sets. In fact I still use the Foley-Belsaw Machine I bought used on eBay 15 years ago. I make them quickly and accurately. I only use that machine for strictly code cutting keys. I have another OLD Curtis Automatic Machine that’s strictly for duplication. Both machines make super accurate cuts. My keys look like fine cut jewelry.. Love both those machines over my more expensive ICO Orion High Speed Duplicator. As long as the machine has good bushings and a sharp cutting wheel you don’t need to spend a lot of money to cut great keys.

[@markcallies3344]

I do to those 1200 code machines are Expensive

[@birdimillingmachine8149]

pls check on you tube Birdi milling machine key cutting machine

[@billbrogan1948]

Jason, just thanks for all your videos. I learn more fro watching you tidy up your bench or go out on jobs, than I do from dozen picking videos. I look up ad find more info on the things you do that catch my interest or are new to me and it's like following the master. Keep up the great vlogs and vids. I appreciate everything you do. THANK YOU!

[@dedge511]

Thanks for putting the real world locksmith stuff here for all!

[@briarberrycove5218]

Excellent point. The locksmith walks a fine Web between Houdini, lawyer, cop, and his/hers own instincts. Nice point my friend...

[@LockPickingPatrolman]

Great video!! I’ve actually been wanting some space and depth keys to start hand filing keys for challenge locks. Also, I don’t know if they have it in your state, but here the dept of corrections website will let you search a name for convictions in the state. Publicly available for free, and it only shows actual convictions and not charges.

[@RookieLock]

Very helpfull Jason! Great uses for space and depth keys... And some great tips on proof of ownership stuff.... I actually have a Foley Belsaw, lol Its working alright, just for small stuff but im sure I'll eventually get a bigger machine.

[@jwrm22]

Thank you for the information. There is a great article about this in the NDE magazine, likely 1 or 2. Space and dept keys are less common here in Europe. Likely because there are way too many brands and profiles. I estimate the most common lock has a 5 to 10% market share in the best case scenario. Dutch locksmiths won't make you a new key if you cant provide the original, they only make copies.

[@rogergoulder3821]

'Par for the core.' Love it.

[@bearsback5099]

Very nice job my friend. What would you say is the next step up from the Belsaw cutter?

[@markcallies3344]

Now that's funny

[@JoseDiaz-if1pq]

Is a depth key same as a bump key

[@koilvondaileystein4433]

Great vid! I love my HPC mini Speedex, though...

[@martyhastings9347]

some good info, thanks for sharing

[@captmidnite8142]

great video , very helpful

[@Arachnoid_of_the_underverse]

Good point security wise it may be a contractor, ex-resident or a removed partner thats looking to get a key to a household they are no longer allowed into.

[@ahmadaamer6]

What would you do if a customer comes in with the key code for his lock? Would you code cut him a key or would it be a rekey of the lock?

[@killer2600]

That's an interesting scenario for two reasons 1) My sister used that method (have a key cut by code) to rectify accidently locking herself out of a bedroom. 2) What benefit would code numbers/cuts stamped on keys or key tags be of use to the lock owner if locksmiths would be unwilling to use those numbers to make customer's a key.

[@jeffmoss26]

WE DO NOT OFFER DISCOUNTS ON VIDEO WATCHING TIME lolol

[@selock]

Jeff Moss that reminds me, I need to add to this disclaimer ;)

[@markcallies3344]

I designed an authorization form When I first started Becouse I wosent Really sure about all the ins and outs Of locksmithing didn't want to get in Trouble send me your info I'll send you A copy you can modify it to your liking Or use it as it is Or let me know if you Would add anything

[@CandyGramForMongo_]

So how do you store all this personal verification data you’ve been collecting on your customers?

[@selock]

CandyGramForMongo we don’t “collect” or “store” the info we only verify ownership of the property to the best of our ability

[@CandyGramForMongo_]

So when the cops show up and start asking questions, what do you show them? Have you ever been approached by law enforcement in an investigation? That could be a cool video!

[@selock]

CandyGramForMongo we have about other issues simply because we have officers/detectives/etc in about every other day anyway getting patrol car or precinct keys made so if there’s ever a “key/lock/breakin” issue that’s unexplainable to them they will come here and ask if we know about whatever they don’t know. There have been a few instances over the years where people working as a (heavily quoted) “””locksmith””” has made keys for vehicles not belonging to the person. In one case they took the vehicle and crashed it into several businesses to steal from them. If we can’t get verification they own it, we don’t do it :)

[@raymondrouthier3920]

Big no for me