Space Discovery - a 50ft catamaran for monohull sailors?

[@andrewlabat9963]

Some people don't seem to understand what makes a great long passage and liveaboard catermaran, but discovery does. A beautiful lined, soild cat that will get you there in comfort..

[@mervharris5183]

Your reviews on the newer Cats are starting to convince me on changing direction from my many years with mono hulls. Being a bit more Senior I think they may suit me a bit better after all those years catching my beer flying across the cockpit. Great review and cheers from lock down in Melbourne..

[@yachtingworld]

Thanks Merv - not trying to sway you either way, but glad the reviews help!

[@jamielancaster01]

We did monohulls for 16yrs before moving to cats. Nothing beats more room & a stable platform.

[@martinlutken8427]

Glad to see Yachting World also questioning why traditional blue water monohull cruising yacht builders so far have passively looked at at the growing cat cruising market. I'd love to see e.g. a fully electrified sun & wind powered Oyster Cat which is safe, fast and can go anywhere. In the mean time, it would be interesting to see more YW reviews of current premium cat brands like Balance, Sunreef, Seawind, Outremer and others. I'm sure Toby would enjoy it and also learn more about these boats of the future.

[@yachtingworld]

Thanks Martin - we've been giving more and more coverage to such multihulls in the mag and I'll certainly try and get aboard more to do reviews once travel restrictions ease. T

[@xuchun5371]

is Discovery can build with SHAFT drive as option ?

[@tomwilliams8675]

All of Toby's reviews are great 👍Beautiful boat, now where did I leave that winning lottery ticket?

[@Kemxt]

Right next to mine so if you find it let me know 😆

[@yachtingworld]

Thank you Tom!

[@aaronrepairsall]

Hope it wasn't in the mail 😂 we all know how that goes

[@gregdamario5808]

SO GLAD you pointed out rounded corners! Way too many of the modern boats look like inland apartments furnished by Scan Design. Fine for apartments but you don't want your hip banged up against a pointy corner when you are 200 (or perhaps a 1000) miles offshore. Stupid.

[@incentiverse]

Still waiting for the boat test that doesn't have a "proper chart table" which is "right where you want it."

[@Jensen_Denmark]

hehe...

[@larryboles629]

Awesome! The cook top will have to be moved over, currently, it is unsafe being so close to a walkway. Easy to accidentally put a hand on a hot cook top. Be happy, be safe.

[@edferculo8887]

Proper, massive, rounded corners. This could be a realtors video. Mate!!

[@davidwarnes5158]

Cats are a massive part of the yacht market now. I have only been skippering professionally for 15 years But in that time the market has grown. You had cats in the Caribbean and the odd world cruiser. But now so many live aboard. All the cats in charter in the med. On the discovery WHY the self tacking , horrid how often does a cat tack up the Solent, rubbish to run down wind, and when it's blowing and you want a small storm sail, you furl part away, you cannot shape it. Low down helm and boom. You can tell it's not a charter boat, 50kn winds in mega seas isn't nice on a top helm lagoon. That keeps it tight.

[@badapple65]

You definitely know what you are talking about because I don’t really understand any of that LoL. I envy you and a life at sea. My hat is off to you and most likely a beautiful way to live life. I’ve been a boater my entire life but speedboats and on a river in my backyard or a beautiful lake 2-1/2 hours North in Wisconsin. Peace.

[@TraneFrancks]

"On the discovery WHY the self tacking" -- It's oriented to easy single-handing, I would presume. Besides, you've got the genoa forward that can be reefed, yes? And for downwind, we can always use a Code D or a Parasailor. Self-tacking jib seems generally to be a non-issue, IMO. Horses for courses. If you don't like the rig, don't buy it, I guess. 😊

[@davidwarnes5158]

@@TraneFrancks true .if you don't like don't buy . Big sails have wind limitations . Self tack is a cutting costs , less winches .

[@ianscott3180]

I would love to move to a proper cat rather than a three storey villa on hulls like most of them. This looks like it would fit the bill, small matter of the £1.5 million might be a problem. Never mind the dog decoration, dogs would love it rather than sliding to leeward every time you go about. Ask Discovery nicely if they will lend you one for a couple of days for a proper test? If crew is a problem I can probably help out? Great video!

[@darshanpatel5932]

A dog on a “cat” ☺️

[@Andre-hi9xn]

For a litle family, shoud work well, I don't like cats, in open SEA! Good job Toby!

[@noum450]

How can such a small boat be so expensive? 1.55m pounds! Meaning USD$2m

[@slobmarley9070]

Fantastic boat! Very expensive

[@ແມ໋ດຢູ່ລາວ]

1.5m pounds?! Blimey! Not sure this cat is in the same league as its competitors at the USD2m price point. Tough sell.

[@bernardowiederhold1533]

Very nice .

[@switchmuso]

I was a little taken aback by the stodgy interior design (reminiscent of 70's boats with tiny oval windows and tea cosies) after having my expectations heightened by the fabulous exterior... headhunt a Sunreef/Beneteau guy, Discovery.

[@andtothewestamerica]

I thought you were being harsh until I saw the price.

[@RusstafaB]

Yes I think it is a bit pricey and there are a lot of options available at that price tag

[@xuchun5371]

1.3 still acceptable , near 2 M ? neh

[@angela1984a]

Anyone else that wants to see something about the Rapido 60 and/or the Bañuls 53 tri?

[@yachtingworld]

I get the message thanks Angela! And yes, I too would love to see/sail them, but we're still a little hampered by travel restrictions at the moment - hence bringing you videos from boats we can get aboard in Europe. T

[@Mahalo_83]

Think the owners got a labrador? 🤣

[@rosag6744]

its a ridgeback :-)

[@dobotube]

What's the advantage over the x5?

[@tr5065]

A grey dog (of a boat).......never has there been a more appropriate logo!

[@downwind_david]

Seawind do a better job and at 1/2 the price... check out their Seawind 1600

[@alohathaxted]

I like the 1260.

[@movieklump]

@@alohathaxted When everything is considered the 1260 is my favorite production yacht.

[@shanevillis4079]

What about the new 1370??

[@danmallery9142]

@@shanevillis4079 1370 looks awesome but you probably have a 3 year wait at this point. Of course, that might work with some people's plans...

[@BertMerlin57]

I still wonder why there is dog on the sail when its a cat....

[@BertMerlin57]

@@tomwilliams8675 ... Sadly one died of cancer :(... I dont think he is to cats :)

[@briansparks4926]

Not a proper helm design for a crusing family. Gunboat is the best designed high performance cat for safe cruising.

[@rickydee5863]

It didn't seem that stable underway in what was moderate sea conditions. It seemed to be pitching quite violently. To much buoyancy in the forward hull sections or low bridge deck clearance maybe? That motion just ain't right by comparison to other cats I have seen sailing in similar and lumpier conditions than shown in this video

[@gregarioussolitudinist5695]

why obviously?

[@aquamigo2]

For that price there is a lot of choice and to be honest: I am not conviced by what I see.

[@dilligafwoftam985]

Is it self righting? I wouldn't sail offshore more than I can swim in a vessel that is inherently more stable when it's inverted.

[@rickydee5863]

A mono hull will in most cases sink if the hull is breached and fills with water. Not so a cat. One sailed out of new Zealand turned upside down and the three occupants drifted around the pacific for three months surviving in the hulls before they were washed up on shore. Ironicly they landed back in the country they departed from.

[@willemhaifetz-chen1588]

Aluminium

[@markcampbell7577]

Deep blade keeling between the mast and headsails. Cut off the boom keel. What is that like ?? Dee dee stop that..

[@BertMerlin57]

For a bluewater cat go any where, get a garcia explocat 52, these discovery seems heavy and slow

[@RogerWilco1]

You’re hyping a cat that hasn’t been released and is made out of metal.

[@Andre-hi9xn]

Roger Wilco there is a video of Peter Goss, with one Garcia explocat 52! BUT is an russian chancel.

[@BertMerlin57]

Roger Wilco ,.... It is been released and come on boatshow and are nominatet for prices, and its made of aluminium....

[@BertMerlin57]

And if I wanted hype a not released, I have mensioned SeaWind 1370 “Ruby Rose” there seems be a very interesting cat to follow 😀

[@carryonsailing]

@@RogerWilco1 That also will have a poor upwind performance......Now where is that trimaran :)

[@dleetr]

Cosy cruiser.

[@xuchun5371]

Videographer please focus on showing the boat and not the commenter, even we like him so much!

[@venomguysydney]

shocking for 50 foot, what were they thinking when this was drafted

[@RS265cup]

real sailors need space OUTSIDE the boat 😆

[@antonysmyth2464]

Can’t say I like the inside, too many edges, angles and unaligned surfaces.

[@TheFlyingPlectrum]

Went sailing but decided not to give any performance figures. Hmm.......

[@yachtingworld]

Yes David - went sailing for the full review, which was in the September issue of Yachting World. Or, even easier - on our website here! www.yachtingworld.com/reviews/boat-tests/discovery-50-british-bluewater-catamaran

[@MrZrryan2]

@@yachtingworld ok ok ok..... first of all, the type of people who comment don't read. LOL

[@jonathanairey9123]

@@yachtingworld Hey Toby. Love Discovery, and climbed around a 50cat and 58 at the SotonBS. Agree on the lack of performance data. YM do a good job there. For a mono to cat decision, the numbers are important. Read the article. Nice. But 7 to 7.5 in 20-23 would be disappointing to most owners of a blue 50+ mono. And the windward performance? Perhaps it was so poor you didnt want to comment. Solent chop and overweight could not have helped. Did Discovery comment on the decision for no daggerboards? Every yacht is a compromise. I think Discovery have done a great job for their target market, and at a great price for the quality.

[@R.E.HILL_]

Rounded corners, removing good backrest opportunities in two directions... A serious lack of understanding when it comes to ergonomics.

[@marnixschipper9674]

Totally misses the point when comparing cats to monohull. Monohull lovers want to feel the boat cut the the water. To bury the rails. To feel safe on the edge. Much more a feel of harnessing nature.

[@Abebe345]

Why not a trimaran like neel then that gives you both?

[@bertmacdonald337]

Trying to make a silk purse there , Toby! Good effort mate ! Why anyone would want one of these as opposed to say, a Balance 526, is way beyond me. Nothing attractive either above or below decks. Every aspect just looks wrong and looks years out of date. Those cabin layouts hardly scream quality. Discovery need to have a word with themselves here. Stick to what you are very good at and sack this cat asap. Jeep had an advertising campaign were people would proudly announce the fact that "I bought a Jeep". In the severe off-roading conditions down here in Western Australia , anyone turning up in the bush with a new Jeep is often met with howls of derision and incredulity. You bought a Jeep? Really? What were you thinking! And that`d be my reaction to any of my friends announcing that they had bought a disco cat. Sorry Discovery, more effort is required. It`s nil point from the WA jury.

[@Mahalo_83]

My Jeep TJ is great, so much fun to drive, so your analogy isn’t working for me.

[@andrewlabat9963]

Actually it does in droves. It might not be glitzy but it's built like a high quality mono, with cat space.. And everything says about it says I'm a sailboat not an apartment with sails.

[@woodstocknun]

catamarans makes me yawn, rather have a cabin next to the sea.

[@svchineeljunk-riggedschoon4038]

Why would a monohull sailor want a cat? They are completely different types of boats for completely different sailors.

[@yachtingworld]

You might be surprised just how many dyed in the wool monohull sailors are switching/have switched to cats

[@VERTICALWisdom]

Good video - not a Cat that fits in either production or performance. Misses the mark.