Space Docks & Birds of Prey

[@j.s.connolly8579]

When Kirk blows up the Enterprise... I STILL get teary eyed! So sad to see an old "Friend" passing like that. But Bones was right. He did what he HAD to do to survive!

[@quigonkenny]

4:03 "Aye... And if my grandmother had wheels, she'd be a wagon."

[@Digginjim]

Young minds, fresh ideas… be tolerant…

[@dilsnikdilznik]

Please force the Discovery folks to watch this repeatedly...

[@AvengerII]

They won't... ST 3 came out 10 years before a lot of those writers were born! Anything pre-2010, it too old for these guys. I'm amazed at the arrogance of people who refuse to do BASIC research before they write for TV series that have established canon.

[@rays7437]

Their way of special effects is waaayyy better than CGI

[@OldMovieRob]

Brilliant artistry here.

[@marcboss6]

I really love love love model work

[@ClarenceHW]

Kudos to Scott Farrer for the detail in the matte explanation, well done!

[@shanebeck8559]

My all time favorite Had the 16" model

[@deidryt9944]

I can never look at a Klingon Bird of Prey now and not think of a "muscleman".

[@devinmarbury4967]

Super cool and interesting. Thanks!!

[@3Rayfire]

Good stuff I love Spacedock and the Bird of Prey is an absolute icon. Pity they didn't leave that Romulan ship plot point in.

[@zarabada6125]

If they'd left it in as a stolen Romulan ship, any future uses of the model would be for Romulan-based stories. That would have changed the fifth film (maybe a good thing) but also the sixth film, TNG, DS9 and Generations. I don't think the bird of prey ever appeared in Voyager though.

[@Beer_Dad1975]

LOL, now I understand why the Uncle from Fraggle Rock was named Travelling Matt(e)!

[@marcboss6]

Shame that within the next decade or so we will lose all this knowledge.

[@Clay3613]

???

[@capnmoby13]

A ship is a ship.

[@tarn1135]

Didn’t the motor break for the bird of prey wings and that’s why in TNG the wings never moved?

[@mrandrossguy9871]

3:30 Star Trek Federation Realistically is NASA or SpaceX, as if We had Multiple Organizations or Kinds of Space Ships ! imo One can imagine with that "Space Force" Branch, if that would eventually become Interstellar Shipping XD but NOT Just Military Space ships is What I'm Saying

[@kimchen5775]

Very cool stuff

[@meiray]

What a shocker, Paramount skimped on paying as much for the making of documentaries for III vs II. Seriously, who thought it was a good idea to shoot this quasi-handheld with poor lighting, and to not put any effort into more cutaways when these wonderful artists are explaining things like the motion control process? Paramount cheaped out on these releases over and over.

[@DrWhom]

the matte lines in this show were as thick as my arm

[@marcboss6]

Steel wool and talcum powder. lol

[@Seemsayin]

Why would strength be necessary for nacelles, if there's no gravity in space?

[@Seemsayin]

@Mike DeMarco While I am certainly no astrophysicist, I'm inclined to disagree. Gravity is what puts stress on anything, especially when it is mechanically connected together. Without gravity, there is no stress. Without gravity, there is no force, no resistance. Nothing pushing, nor pulling. So, should it make any difference whether or not the ship moves? How can a ship NOT fly apart at warp speed? Then again, I may be WAY off. Thanks for your reply.

[@Seemsayin]

@Mike DeMarco See? I told you I was missing something. That's VERY interesting, and puts a whole new perspective on the subject. Question: Why does the Enterprise, when dropping out of warp, not cause everyone to fly out of their seats? Or is this a TV thing, that the show overlooks? Or, am I just watching way too much tv? I don't get out, much.

[@mrandrossguy9871]

@Mike DeMarco "Because the Body doesn't want to move" when you say it like that is confusing as most people describe inertia and centrifugal force, instead describe it like your body can't Keep Up with the Larger Object 🤷‍♂️ It just sounds like Our Body's Are sentient And are stubborn or something Lmao, pet peeve

[@DrWhom]

they are pushing the ship

[@Seemsayin]

​@@DrWhom The struts that hold the nacelles to the hull aren't really practical in an atmosphere then. I could see how your point makes perfect sense *in a gravity surrounding, with resistance (air, wind, precipitation, etc.) But, in space... there's none of that. For example... when a ship increases speed (like going immediately from impulse to the highest warp speed), how come the passengers don't fall backwards from the sudden thrust? At warp 10 (which is 10 times the speed of light) why doesn't the ship fly apart? Warp 10 is FAST. Warp 10, in an atmosphere where resistance is present would peel the skin from your face, if you had your head sticking out of a window. Ships are known to burn up when they're entering an atmosphere. But, in space... they don't. If that's the case... why is strength so critical in ZERO resistance?

[@1061shrink1061]

4:56 the early days of Discovery? clearly the same design going on here.

[@PeachLover94]

Actually, that particular drawing of a new Starship Enterprise was one Ralph McQuarrie ( _Star Wars_ ) and Ken Adam ( _James Bond_ ) put together for a planned movie in the 1970s called _Star Trek: Planet of the Titans_ which evolved into the planned TV series _Star Trek: Phase II_ and later into _Star Trek: The Motion Picture_ if I remember right.

[@DrWhom]

@@PeachLover94 Yes, and the Discovery design is a nod to that design.

[@Thereal111t]

FASAnating

[@fybsi2081]

Dude what happened with the audio on this one. You could’ve adjusted the levels before posting this. So damn quiet.

[@ericgray4325]

real models and special effects, instead of computer drawing