Space Engineers - Invisible Gravity Missile Shields, Debris Force Field

I recently received a rather interesting question from a member of the community wondering if I could come up with an idea of some sort of invisible force shield. After many hours and a little abuse of render distance we may have cracked it.
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Space Engineer is like a mixture between Minecraft and Kerbal Space Program. The game is in pre-alpha and will be released on steam at some point in the future.
The main purpose of the game seems to be building a space fleet and fight/ally with the other factions. You build your ships piece by piece and the only know limit for the size of your ship is what you computer can handle.

[@mowthiahgaming4038]

Lol, the enemy might take advantage of that and come grab all the free supplies

[@archangel4670]

How to break the vortex Sheild FIRE 2 MISSILES

[@jacobwright6309]

Instead of giving the commenter a long winded answer, you took a few hours to build a bunch of test displays, took a few minutes to record the footage, took even more time editing the footage, and finally took a few hours (probably) to upload the video. You're extremely dedicated to your viewers, and that is why I like this channel.

[@TEKNO640]

if hes so dedicated... why cant he spend a SMALL amount of time thinking, and a slightly more time building... to make some COST-EFFECTIVE AND USEFUL ideas rather then building WHATEVER people tell him to do (that comments slightly hippocritical, but at the beginning of allot of arons videos he said "someone gave me the idea, or someone asked/challenged me to build" and everyone i see in the comments want 1 of 3 things... another survival episode... to see aron upload something useful [in my case, cost-effective] onto youtube... or some comment requesting shields be put into the game to turn it into a POS not-free version of starmade)

[@jacobwright6309]

TEKNO640 Yeah, more cost-effective designs would be great, but he's not superhuman. Its just as hard for him to build shields that are cost-effective as it would be for you or me. If you can think of an idea for a shield in game that's cost effective, you can upload your own video about it, or tell Arron about your idea in the comments, as its obvious he reads them.

[@mrchrispy13]

TEKNO640 im not 100% against a shield idea but it would need a lot of balancing, which keen doesnt really seem to be bothering with right at the moment. otherwise i agree, he never really builds anything thats useful or cost effective

[@jacobwright6309]

mrchrispy13 that's not entirely true. The loader for the large shells? That would be relatively easy to build, and useful against pirate raids. Some of his small ship designs? Pretty simple stuff, and useful. The big items (the shield, for example) aren't supposed to be easy to build anyways. These things are luxury items, things that you only build when you have an overflow of resources. After all, how could you possibly make it easy to build a large, planet smashing ship like the turtle? Or a land vehicle to drive across asteroids? If you can think of any way to make things more cost effective, just tell him! Ask him to use your design to try and make it easier to build! Telling him to build something, and then being upset that it wasn't cost-effective, isn't fair to him. You want something? He builds it! You want something cost-effective? I bet he'll make a good effort to do so.

[@mrchrispy13]

i dont need him to build things for me to begin with, and his "small" ship designs arent typically very small at all (ha im a poet). like that green fighter he loves so much. for its giant size and slow acceleration it is not nearly heavily armed enough. u can be faster and smaller and pack just as much punch. check sage's build during their dogfights; thats a much better build imo and overall more successful.

[@pigpig252]

those explosives gave me an idea. I know a while back you experimented with countermeasures to stop incoming rocket and machine-gun fire from behind. You could equip a fighter or smallish large ship to spew out dozens of those explosives behind to catch any pursuer off guard

[@TEKNO640]

but the video WAS A LIE... those hand held explosives only detonate when shot.. not when rammed.. so there only useful as a hand held explosive when boarding a ship... they 'might' explode when rammed if you ram them at EXTREME speeds (0-max speed difference) but im not to sure if even that will work.

[@Gergo049]

I'd rather use those for bombing ships or sabotage

[@elfinplatypus1341]

So, kind of like a minelayer?

[@The0nlySplash]

who fires one missile and stops then? each of These systems are unusable after one hits it.

[@mr.cup6yearsago211]

Actually, the rock designs are very durable, much like the rocks themselves

[@vladimirirkhin]

@@mr.cup6yearsago211 but you see... There's a big gap after the initial explosion... The rocks get moved away...

[@vladimirirkhin]

A temporary "hole"

[@shreyasganesh7476]

the point is initial defence. most modern MBT armor works on the same principle

[@tacobell7233]

I had a different idea in mind when I clicked on this video. Can gravity fields themselves be used to pull missiles out of the way, so they miss their target entirely? If a ship had a spherical gravity generator, and a missile was fired into that gravity field, would the gravity affect it enough to push the missile out of the way?

[@Attaxalotl]

or can gravity fields be used to repel the missiles? it might cause a bit of gravitonic chaos aboard the ship, but you wouldn't get exploded.

[@iakonasisler4808]

I know I'm super late but I actually have a ship that does that, it has like 40 gravity generators around the ship and as long as everyone is in a seat you turn it on and it pushes everything away from the ship including players and other ships. it keeps you safe during meteor storms too

[@wyvern-nero]

@@iakonasisler4808 i am even later! And is the ship on the workshop? If yes, could you post a link to it?

[@iakonasisler4808]

@@wyvern-nero yes it's on the workshop but posting it might be a problem because I'm not able to get on my computer for a while because my ethernet cables stopped working and my pc has no WiFi adapter, but if I remember to I will let you know when its working again

[@wyvern-nero]

@@iakonasisler4808 thank you in advance.

[@arthurdent6256]

"This Aperture Science field emancipation grill will emancipate any unauthorized material that passes through it" -GLaDOS

[@bt4670]

Am I the only one who didn't know that explosives in this game as an item explode?

[@mrchrispy13]

lots of ppl exploit it in torpedo designs, it needs a nerf

[@OdinJrthesecond]

I didn't know they explode either.. if I'm honest, I'm now extremely tempted to create missiles that instead of having warheads in them, are filled with a bunch of explosives (separate items of course)... would probably be painfully laggy or server-crashing, if it didn't, it'd probably do enough damage to at least annihilate most heavy armor blocks around it... EDIT: I also remembered that there is a guided missile script (made by a certain rdav) and if that worked I could do some seriously unavoidable damage..

[@TEKNO640]

as for aiming of the gaps... in a combat situation (you place one or 2 turrets on the station) the player would be aiming for the door, let alone stopping there ship to be precise or flying in a straight line... as for the reason rocks are better, is because not only is stone really cheap, but unlike other disposable items, stone takes 2 'blasts' to destroy, while some other components only take one.

[@mrchrispy13]

who cares what he's using, its mostly worthless anyway :D

[@LiteBlack101]

Thanks for taking the time to build demos of your ideas, It's really neat to see such bizarre uses!

[@kronosbot5]

That last one seems great for blanketing a minefield.

[@oskarsrandomthings5114]

omg space engineers has changed so much this video gives me all the good memories

[@TheDarkTechGuy]

The last one is good for "If you destroy my base it will destroy you too!" kind of thing.

[@BasilHorizon]

BradPhusion already built awesome rotating shield with stones, which also can be used as a weapon!

[@nuzzy9198]

BasilHorizon which is also another reason Arron is a Structure Stealer

[@Zerepzerreitug]

that floating gravity shield was jaw-dropping amazing. Great work Aaron! :D

[@CANER_DX]

stock defence no mods or crap . love it , not many players who can make this intresting things without mods anymore keep it up!

[@MichaelWeber5237]

Hey man, was wondering if you can create a bubble shield that repulses all objects and would work as a shield against un-propelled objects like inertia and gravity based projectiles (the kind I know you enjoy using despite their flaws) since we have these new gravity bubble generators, can you repel such projectiles or would they be able to get through the gravity field just fine? What other problems could it cause if any?

[@Jaco9307]

YES

[@georgeperalta936]

Thats what I thought he was going to do

[@MrKingOfNever]

He has done this a long time ago

[@Jaco9307]

do a new one then withe the new items from the updates

[@aarontena]

I was thinking about that but it needs to be very strong for repulse rockets, its like when you shoot a gun at the air, it dosen't falls at the moment.

[@Muzzled]

How about using the remote explosives as a carpet bombing method? A few of those ports spitting out the explosives would cripple pretty much anything they hit.

[@nou8257]

Gravity trap with hundreds of thos little explosives. or maybe just a large ship with a sealed door open it and have tonnes of them or rocks revealed up against the deck of the ship press a button gravity reverses back up generators come online and the ship you want to wreck gets a horrible suprize.

[@mickeymoose636]

Smooth Trooper Like explosives with mass cubes, and you get close to the other ships gravity, then drop the bombs and they fly towards the ship?

[@masonjames8825]

What if you could generate a gravity field strong enough to repel incoming missiles

[@nou8257]

Nicholas Audinet Maybe, all tho you would have to make each and every mass cube bomb combo vs just making the explosive componet and dropping it or stone them to death.

[@95iBall]

Brother?

[@Jan_Iedema]

Its so Nice that you upload more now

[@detaildevil6544]

I am gonna spin a net of explosives between two asteroids. The cool thing about this is that you could accelerate them in the middle of their flight and decelerate them before being collected, covering a much larger area with only a few explosives.

[@mattwchap]

I've had an Idea! Remember the old anti missile flare type thing in a previous video? What if you make it shoot out the explosives behind you and when the enemy ship runs into it, They blow up without even seeing what they are hitting?

[@BonBon-oq5pl]

That explosive part is interesting.....i wonder if that could be set up as a trap to ambush ships with

[@PatrickStannard]

I wonder if it's possible to use spherical gravity generators as missile deflectors. Maybe drop them out of a ship or activate them on a small fighter to push incoming missiles away or attract them to gravity mines away from the ship?

[@delphisniperr]

Couldn't you just reverse the field on spherical gravity generator and use it as a deflector sheild against physics based wespons?

[@MegaJacob9999]

I thought the same!

[@KriegsMeister27]

yes but then your are vulnerable to the gatling guns and rockets

[@pigpig252]

he did this a long time ago with flat gravity generators. It would be the same concept with spherical so no point in really doing a whole new video for it

[@NameName2.0]

With Spherical you'd.. well.. here is why it wouldn't work, everything in the area would be repulsed in a sphere.. :|

[@samuelpage5598]

Froztarlozt no as ships are not affected by gravity unless you have gravity cubes on it so if it was on a ship it would be very effective

[@emulsionvhs69]

Hey LSG your second to last design was really cool what if you put something like that on a small ship to act as flack or flares to deflect missiles and bullets to not his the ship

[@SeedlingNL]

That rock shield looks like it's a gravity generator away from becoming a kessler bomb :P (Very fun to deploy in KSP, just don't expect to fly anything offplanet ever again :P)

[@brodykladis8125]

I was wondering, what if you made a circular gravity generator pushing out, and another one pulling, but with larger range. That would make all objects surround the ship in a circle. You could then weld up shield pieces to make a defensive ship,

[@Frey9600]

All those defenses are pretty good lookin but very easy do dodge with proper precautions. Nice work anyway :D

[@eldritchplayz51]

A better use for the explosives one would be to protect a base, when, say, an enemy capital ship tries to fly into your tunnel to your base, the captain suddenly finds at least half his ship gone. Although fleets could easily focus down the blocks dispensing them afterward. But it is still a great first strike method.

[@Gam3P1ay]

I really like the second to last design where you have a shield surrounding the door. However I think it would be much more effective if you used stones. I feel as though the rocks would be able to form the shield more quickly and get into position.

[@BraveCat9927]

in robbocraft theres a thing called electroplates that are plates that are effective shields, once the shield is hit enough it deactivates and can then be destroyed and over time the shield plate regenerates if it is not completely destroyed. thats what they need in this game. energy plates that go over blocks and act as a shield.

[@josephpobrica4993]

I tested some things with the explosives and have decided they are kinda op. You can destroy an entire ship with clip and 50 explosives. It would work great for a breaching charge tho.

[@WrenchRock940]

actually with some experimenting with my friend we made a spinning orb using two spherical gravity gens and reflected missiles awesomely and we were able to set things to orbit like remote explosives and stone

[@eviLph33r]

The last idea with the explosives would be a cool idea for setting traps between asteroids. Trying to head to a far asteroid and suddenly run into the passing explosives would be shocking. But for shielding purposes not so much.

[@nunull6427]

Could you use cones of gravity to disperse/deflect? Also, defensive drones meant to be utilized as shields. Could have them hold lots of fuel for reserves, which in turn means you can make them fast and they retain a missile like capability. Like a decoy, boomerang shield. Could hold several on hull or held in place by as much gravity as it can be made possible.

[@georgesarll264]

Imagin setting up a huge explosive net to hit ships with like an invisible mine for large ships or to delay fighters.

[@Woodenblastdoor]

With your last design you could create the equivalent of submarine nets around areas of your bases which are not defended by turrets, such as back up hangers or tunnels in asteroids. Stops people from snooping.

[@someguy430]

i love the explosive ship trip wire idea

[@zealstarwind]

I have a question. These use rockets/chaingun as their weaponry of choice, how do these stand up against gravity cannon type weaponry or shrapnel cannons? Does the gravity shield prevent it even if the cannon has 12g firing potential? Could the spherical generators be used like warp disruption bubbles from eve online on ships that utilize gravity drives and also gravity cannons where mass blocks are aplenty?

[@CLAIR.L]

what is your favorite ship mine in the UNSC frigates / forward unto dawn halo3 design im building one right now using a lot the the amazing ideas you guys have come up with and a few of my own

[@TIGRETONICO]

What about a esferical gravity gen that grapples to the enemy vessel, and then a companion starts throwing those explosives around? Or maybe a mine field made out of those explosive components. They only thing you would need to do would be to throw the gen at the enemy ship.

[@manchedepelle224]

Aaron I use a similar protection for my ship,except I propel the rocks everywhere I was wondering if you think it would be possible to keep them orbiting my ship instead,I've tried but I really have a hard time adjusting properly the grav gen to not just trow them or get them to come back and dmg my ship !!!

[@benharder7816]

To all those saying its unrealistic, give Arron a break. He admitted several times that people can shoot through the gaps and also this is just a rough concept he will be improving it I am sure.

[@mrchrispy13]

improving it how? the whole idea is mostly worthless. how many people would only shoot 1 missile at anything? 1 missile and the goofy missile damage model destroys everything in a bubble around the blast effectively clearing the "shield" leaving it wide open for a follow up shot. gameplay mechanics would need to change before this could be revisited and expect it to be effective.

[@benharder7816]

mrchrispy13 Ya I know, perhaps his thought is to be a counter against long range missile firing, but even then. If somebody could make an improvement or a completely different working shield kudos to you because that is awesome

[@mrchrispy13]

yeah, dont use the blast door parts, they are useless against missiles. large heavy blocks will stop several small ship missiles without all that fancy nonsense.

[@benharder7816]

mrchrispy13 The developers should really increase the resistance for blast doors to make them more useful I like the fanciness.

[@mrchrispy13]

they are indeed functionally better but their resilience is garbage... "blast door" ha! more like "skinny door"

[@Dentipus]

Hmm, the vortex shield reminded me of platelets solidifying around a wound in the human body. If the gravity field extended around the entire ship, do you think it would be possible to have a system like this, that automatically leaks medical components onto breaches in the hull? (It would be incredibly impractical, but very cool)

[@FoggyHunterX]

any way you could design a system of gravity propelled, single manned boarding torpedoes? like ten of them are shot at once, and when they get close enough to the ships, the crew memebers in them eject and hit their inertia dampeners while the torpedoes punch holes in the hull.

[@sf-1_raptor]

Nice builds.

[@Pseudoluky]

The vortex one looked actually use full, though i wonder why you didn't use rocks to avoid loosing the shield to only 1 rocket.

[@Radiospirtman]

how would these do against inertia or gravitational weapons would it just stop the the torpedo/weapon thing?

[@B3NJeM4N]

Are fired missiles affected by gravity? If so, maybe it's possible to use multiple gravity generators to create a repelling field in/around your base.

[@wm505gaming4]

I really like the vortex one and think that if there was more of them coming out and at faster rates you could end up with something pretty impenetrable to any small fighter.

[@wm505gaming4]

Also would these still work if moving at high speeds or would you have to slow it down quite a bit.

[@TheOneZytel]

Is it possible for gravity generators to create a field strong enough to affect the missiles trajectory? Wouldn't that be nice for some sort of countermeassure?

[@EviLNox8]

Pistons transfer materials right through them right? You could create a few layers of slightly increased heights to make it so that there isn't any gaps at all.

[@nerdglider]

I was thinking about something, what if you rigged a large ship with explosives and put the detonation button in an escape ship and if the main ship got compromised by the enemy you can destroy it, would you do a video on something like that?

[@SephirothRyu]

Is there any way to trick a jump drive into jumping into a place that would be dangerous to jump to normally?

[@robertv.8893]

The maschine fire mode from the starburst cannon of Bradphusion might be an solution to fend of any one whom tries to shoot at the hangar doors. Or you could get the rocks orbit in a large radius (starting 150 meters?) in layers... multiple layers would propably increase the chance a missle hit an rock but as it is spread out it would not hit so many other rocks. You could also use a orbit ring of rocks around the most vital spots and use the grav gens as push pull. Then when a small ship comes to close quickly expand the radius and either the ship would get hit and is disabled or is stuck. If possible you can pull the rocks back and this would shred the small aircraft even more... And maybe when you tweak the settings neatly you can push and pull without losing rocks out of your sphere anytime you do that :D! Just a tiny idea that came up in my mind :)!

[@altonbishop305]

Couldn't u use the gravity generator thingy if a ship gets to close it would just be pushed away bye it?

[@acegamingst5546]

If you listen to his presentation, he improvises a lot lol. When something goes wrong he just rolls with it and switches up his thoughts completely and its kinda funny since.

[@Unknownsoldier740]

Could you make a shield around an entire ship? Also that one with the medkits protecting the door, what if you replaced the medkits with rocks?

[@adrianrogozinski4133]

Hey Arron, I think you and BradPhusion could make some very interesting gravity weapons, just a suggestion, also where did you get the idea for the vortex style shield?

[@deetchy5311]

I would love to see the day that Keen gives Spherical Gravity a buff, which would influence any missile (including launcher missiles) away from the generator, as a sort of deflection shield. Of course this would put massive strain on the crew, but it could use electromagnetism to create a field that does not create gravity, we already see it on planets in the form of the magnetosphere and this could be the same concept. And if your thinking that's too sci-fi, then look at the Gravity Generators now; they already broke their realism guidelines for practicality.

[@LouseGrouse]

By clumping loads of gravity generators together, could you slingshot ships past them at high speeds?

[@HaqqAttak]

What if you used this kind of system to project warheads and create a minefield? Almost like a smoke projector on a tank?

[@Vinlaell]

It's a nice artpiece

[@PeterBarnes2]

You could create small minefields with that explosive shield design combined with two spherical gravity generators.

[@williamwallace3741]

Hey, is there a way to throw explosives out of a small/big ship at an enemy base.

[@benjohnson8283]

So for example in star wars they used tractor beams to rip apart a ship. Can you rip apart a ship with 2 jump drive missiles if they are set at different coordinates

[@thedeergod435]

What about using really strong gravity to draw away the rockets ect and it can even attract ships

[@Grapplehook_Lemon]

for the door design were the things come oout the side pockets wouldnt it be better to use rocks becuz he said they dont get destroyed?

[@howdthtfeelbro762]

what about a gravity generator that pushes against missiles/projectiles or atleast slows them down

[@17Digits]

So I have been wondering ever since I got space engineers if you could hollow out an asteroid build a large ship inside it and then use that asteroid as a form of cammo?

[@Thekilleroftanks]

no, asteroids can not be moved, but you can mine an asteroid and dump the rock you just mined in one go, but its impossible.

[@FummyofCanin]

What if you used the dome with the small rocks instead utilising the high blast resistance of the rock?

[@TehMinecraftNations]

LSG, I've Always Wondered, How do you get all these resources (Stone + Medical Components+ Metal Grids,) In creative?

[@jasonrtz]

What about thruster override shielding?

[@jonathansouth1506]

As typical looks lovely but like practically every other design of weapons or armour on this channel completely impracticable in a combat scenario, I do enjoy the videos but I do know that if it came to the crunch could easily destroy every design ever came out with here however I do appreciate the dedication to fans that you show as well as your presentation style keep going maybe see you in the game someday an maybe have a little scrap good luck

[@BKnight_]

This was an idea I had in a comment in your last video :D

[@thejadondaviscommentaries1613]

Hey how good would a crossbow shaped ship would do in battle against a ship of equal size builders choice

[@jarednewman5123]

Hey where do you get that cool cockpit ive seen it in a bunch of your episodes. Whats the mod name?

[@ishleeping7347]

How did you get the custom cockpits for the escape pods

[@Volkaer]

can you use warheads instead of rocks or medical supplies?

[@abe881]

This is arguably more useful now because of the locking mechanic turrets have

[@jesseray8217]

Those explosives would be cool if you added them on the back of a ship shooting them behind if say someone was chasing you closely

[@jesseray8217]

Or you could use it to deploy mine fields around an area

[@1857691]

so that last one with the bombs actually could make a really good high speed trap. imagine if you got someone to chase you and then you flew through and a buddy turned on the trap. they wouldnt see it until it was too late.

[@tornadonick6480]

I't be interesting to see the rockets actually affected by gravity fields. Someone could probably make a mod for that

[@solisprophet1989]

now with the cercal gen. can u make a tredmil or a hamster wheel/ball?

[@aerogog7166]

Could you make a certain forcefield that when you shoot a missile that the missile starts circling like the medical components did? That would make rockets useless

[@toryunaminosaki1022]

The medical component wall is pretty epic..except I'd use rocks, cuz they're basically a waste product

[@dankbeluga9636]

So I was messing around with a big hangar door I had made and I tried putting heavy armour where the door closed. Surprisingly the blast door blocks took zero damage, and the heavy armour blocks were instantly destroyed. Maybe you could incorporate this into a ship, maybe even have a fake hangar that ships will fly into, only to have the walls close in on them and crush their ship...

[@billskills7375]

if its supost to protect your hanger than how do friendly ships get in. Also they can just fire some other spot.

[@kradwolf5719]

I would like it better if you did something like this for an escape pod so it wont easily be shot down. it might limit mobility but you should be able to see beacons from far away

[@TheFlawlessGem]

Hello! I thought the video was pretty interesting but I have a request. Maybe you could start another series in which you build things like stations and then upgrade them with the new features every Thursday after the update. I had your first series in mind while I typed this. Have a good day!

[@jasonentwisle2605]

I would love to use your build-up design in an asteroid base and cover the door with rocks.

[@woolfoma]

These things you come up with seem pretty cool, but totally impractical. maybe try shooting rocks at high speeds using a similar system, or whatever. keep it up though definitely was an interesting watch.

[@cykacat4196]

how do you get the medical components when you are in creative??

[@ShadeSlayer1911]

All of these designs have a fatal flaw. The "projectors" of the shields aren't protected. Once a player has encountered these a few times and realizes what's going on, he could just shoot the projectors. This would really only be effective on somebody who has never seen anything like this before.

[@ShadeSlayer1911]

***** Yeah, that too. A lot of his eccentric designs are just too cumbersome, over-complicated, and unreliable to actually be of use in actual combat. Not that this game is going to have anytime soon.

[@nou8257]

Why not reverse the effect Arron?. Have a built up supply of rocks or explosives and use this as a trap. Like as soon as they get near you start pumping the materials out then you throw the gravity on and armaggeddon insures.

[@RoqueTHEGAMER]

what about use the gravity to make the objects fly in circle around the ship/station?

[@lightwork8173]

What happens if u make gravity field strong it stops a rocket in mid air

[@LeonidProxy]

What I would like for them to do is maybe take the mechanics behind the new gravity generator and just add some fancy UI and some graphical enhancements to it and add the ability to either deflect or immediately destroy projectiles that come within the field. Also Arons Ideas are pretty sound, although when a ship is moving about I dont think that the items used would physically follow the paths that they are supposed to which could lead to unnecessary damage to the ship or just random items flying about. Station wise I think it would work, but then again if you have missiles why not just go above and blow a hole into the hull and enter through there vs going directly toward a hanger?

[@BlockoStudios]

Can you do an Anti Gravity Missile shield? As in, ship A fires gravity missile, ship B's gravity generator deflects it.

[@sofinebovine5053]

Do you guys have your own server up by chance or?