Space Engineers - S1E16 'Automatic Mining Rig'

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[@wilsonw13]

Couple of suggestions: 1 - You should setup one of these drills for the ice patch. 2 - if you don't care for the stone, just have an ejector remove it all, like you did on your mining ship earlier. 3 - I would stick a wind turbine and a refinery on the mining platform, might as well make it do all the work! 4 - You're awesome and keep up the great entertainment!

[@ZatriX_ZA]

I totally placed one on ice patch, omg is this thing efficient or what )) I've ice for years now!

[@TheRogueWolf]

"Have you tried turning it off and back on again?" Welcome to the future, folks.

[@deltuhvee]

The Rogue Wolf it’s the most successful method of fixing things. I’m not an IT professional but I build computers as a hobby and that seems to almost always help.

[@PayrollTips]

Just turning the engine off and on again worked!

[@inybisinsulate]

Imagine a world without plugs, it'd be hella difficult to debug for dummies!

[@Whisper0ak]

My theory is the block is like this to simulate a real engine or gas powered generator. You have to turn the key or pull the start cord to get it started.

[@possumGFX]

Wait...is that an IT crowd reference?

[@swiftbow2110]

Refineries can use stone also, not just the survival kit. Just sayin. Nothing goes to waste. Really good vid.

[@m3nj051]

Thanks for commenting

[@Kanajashi]

I realized that right after this video was made! >_

[@BlueNEXUSGaming]

@@Kanajashi There's also multiple Mods to convert the Stone into Gravel, & Gravel into Ores, so you don't need to worry about the Stone being useless. I use it for my Solar System Minimalist Space Start. The one I use is pretty well balanced, as it converts the Stone into Gravel into Ore, which then needs to be smelted, and the return is a percentage of the Stone used, which really makes the Efficiency Upgrades for the Refineries very important.

[@kylemilford8758]

Really glad this made it vanilla the final game, being able to break stone down into iron is super helpful

[@________-by2px]

Add a refinery for refining the stones. Refineries produce more ingots per stone than survival kit, even without yield module, and do so VERY quickly. I made a spaceship with 11 drills and refineries that can mine 1.000.000 iron ingot in minutes by just mining stone.

[@markgcns]

Hey Kanajashi, I've done a bit of testing with the new blocks and thought I'd share. Hydrogen Engines are built in an on state with out hydrogen in its internal tank. Cycling the engine off then back on fills the tank and starts the engine. Power cycling the entire grid basically does the same thing with more risk of power loss. (Engine side note) A engine left running after a battery(s) reaches a full charge state (with out load) will continue to run, but stops using hydrogen. Only when a draw is placed on the grid it slowly starts using fuel. Also, the survival kit, basic refinery and refinery all process stone. Each step up from the survival kit processes stone more effectively and quicker than the last. Looking good Sir! Looking forward to seeing more of your adventures!

[@isaachenrikson3197]

your sense of direction still does not cease to amaze me you can just turn and head towards the drilling rig without a gps

[@Whisper0ak]

After you have flown there a few times it's not hard. You know which way it is based on what part of your base you are looking at or the trees and landscape around you.

[@johnmcorigin2389]

Build that whole Rig on a Rotor itself to even improve efficientcy and range

[@mi30044]

38:42 "this is all pure nickel" refineries: am I a joke to you

[@reubenminat1076]

Recommend attaching a refinery to it and or setting up a conveyor line back to base although expensive saves time and once all the ore is depleted then just take the tubes apart again

[@baladeAdvent]

I love playing with these designs, the range on the drill actually lets you space them out a bit, so with a connector between each drill you can save a bit of resources and still clear out materials.

[@Linkachu8709]

except... uhm… if you stack them close together, you dupe ore.... idk if Keen fixed that bug yet or not, but on one series I watch, a group made a giant drill ship, and because of how many drillas were on it, it would get 10 times as much ore than was actually there.

[@BlueNEXUSGaming]

45:26 Your Hand Drilling Technique is gonna get you demonetized at that rate xD no wonder you switched to the Rig!

[@mr.t3p357]

The individual drill bits look to be turning at 1 RPM while the arm is turning at 3 RPMs😊👍

[@BinaryKiller_Recoded]

Note : No Fuel warning is the base/station that is crying for it, if you build a hydrogen tank and an oxygen tank that warning will stop

[@virtual812]

But wasn't it still doing it even after he disconnected from the base grid? It only stopped when the reactors were removed... or did i miss something?

[@Skystrike70]

Satisfying rig to watch! I had a similar one that was a skyward facing rotor that had a T shape on top of it, and had drills hanging off each side of the T. So I mined a big donut around the rotor base essentially xD

[@Turbo999be]

One of the big problems I encountered with connected grids through connectors is when you click "Y" to cut the power, it will cut the power on all connected grids and therefore disconnect them all... in space they wont' move but when you put the power back with "Y" it won't restard all the disconnected grid of course, so you'll have to restart them one by one... For the hydrogen engine you just have to toggle the power of the hydrogen engine block and it will start, you don"t need to toggle the power of the whole grid.

[@KBraid]

you should probobly save your drill as a blueprint for quick and easy redeployment!

[@possumridgeentertainment4614]

The disconnection issue is precisely why the base connectors should be for loading and unloading only. For charging batteries go with a separate charging dock completely isolated from the base power-wise. Connectors don't need to be connected to conveyors to transmit power. Build a tower 10 blocks high (really only need 8, but 10 will give you a buffer), build out about 8 - 10 blocks in all four directions at the top, pop a wind turbine on the end of each extension, and set up your connectors around the base. By using wind turbines you have a steady source of power without having to divert any of it to batteries and by keeping it isolated you don't have to worry about your ships crashing if for whatever reason your base loses power. Or you could put hydrogen engines and oxygen generators on your otherwise battery powered vehicles that are responsible for charging the batteries when idle (i.e. keep it off when flying and turn it on when parked and the batteries are set to recharge) and just park on the ground or in a hangar using standard landing gears.

[@Whisper0ak]

-To extend the pistons a little bit at a time from the seat, First turn the piston block off, then tell it to fully extend, then add the piston (or group of pistons) to the action bar with on/off option. This will allow you to move the piston a little it at a time by toggling it on and off. Pistons still transfer ore and power when they are 'off'. You can do the same thing with the rotor. -If you want to get the stone out of the container, add a sorting block, then a connector. Tell the sorter to whitelist only stone. For the sorter turn 'drain all' ON , and for the connector turn 'collect all' to ON and 'eject' ON

[@kyis1256]

What if you used a sensor to detect when the drills are swinging past on each revolution and go down a bit each time. You could probably get it to go as fast as it can without forcing the drills into the ground that way.

[@001sharpshot]

But can you explain how to do this tho

[@kyis1256]

​@@001sharpshot Put a sensor on the main column facing the rotor, detect subgrids only, set a detection zone a block wide and far enough in front of the sensor to clip the drills when they swing by, increase bottom distance as deep as you'd want the drills to go relative to the sensor. (You can change the sensor position, it's the clipping that matters, just keep the sensor on a different grid than the rotating subgrid and adjust the zone accordingly.) There are multiple ways from there, either you set as sensor action a timerblock that increases max piston distance on each pass with a fixed extend velocity, or alternatively set a fixed speed on the pistons then make the sensor trigger a timerblock to power the pistons and trigger another timerblock to turn them off, tweaking the second one's delay + piston velocity to go down as much as possible without bashing the drills in the ground. The first method is very precise and predictable but you get in trouble with too many pistons and the last needs more tweaking but you can adjust for a lot more pistons. (You'd want other QOL timers as well, to retract and stop, or return to a known initial state for example, so it's easy to control from a button panel) One could also use this to make a reciprocating motion instead of a circular one, kinda like a racking motion, you'd be digging a rectangle instead of a circle. A bit late but I hope it helps ^^

[@nemesisghost]

This video got me into Space Engineers after having it in my steam library for years!

[@MrChaos211]

i agree, that damn no fuel alert needs to be really really fixed, once reactors there if its not running spams no fuel

[@dragonpc8258]

44:20 "Almost a HUNDRED THOUSAND NICKEL!" (over 950 thousand in the box) ROFL

[@m3nj051]

It's OVER 9000!!!

[@Kanajashi]

Was too excited about the mass of nickel to count right :P

[@WaikikiTim]

Your crazy idea at 41:32 inspired me to make my mining platform mobile. It works great on lakes. I haven't tried it over land yet. I have a piston system that extends 100 meters and I left on overnight with a refinery running too. I had so many ingots that I didn't have room to make anything (I'm using the default, for this world, 3x inventory size). Lol. It was over a silver deposit too. Today I moved it to a cobalt/gold deposit. Thanks for the suggestion!

[@cg5469]

2 timer blocks will have this rig running all by itself.

[@jakstrieder]

with that set up you can always add another piston to the shaft with some cleaver welding and grinding.

[@MegaCrashking]

Excellent Love the drill rig. Really well done.... Take a Bow.

[@m3nj051]

30:05 STFU THAT IS EPIC

[@Atepa09]

Kana your drills were rotating so quickly because it was doing 3rpm not 1rpm on the single press of the increase button. It looks like it does them in steps of 3rpm a press. (3, 6, 9, 12, etc) Also, I love this drill design and hope you don't mind if I use it. lol

[@BrianJ1962]

Surprisingly little shake on the drill heads - nice!

[@robertwarner5871]

Great video I like the solar panel setup on your base the only thing I would have did to begin with I would have stacked 4 cargo containers one on top of the other cuz you never know how far that nikhil will go and how much Stone you're going to accumulate to just get at that nickel but also like you mentioned I had that thought before I watched your video about making a land drilling rover that has at least 4 large cargo containers 4 solar panels 2 wind turbines 2 batteries 5 drills I mean this would be a massive mining Rover that would also have a basic refinery 2 out of those three large cargo containers well store the finished product

[@Takamiki]

one thing you can do add a wind turbine and basic refinary to your mining rig so that it refines the stone into iron, silicon, and nickle ingots while you are away so that you have iron, silicon and nickle ready for you to take and throw out the unneeded excess gravel.

[@pascalpodszus8091]

42:12 so much for "scarce ressources" 😂😂

[@somedude1771]

41:30 yes! I haven't watched after this as of yet but I'm on my way xD . I hope that later in your series that you make something like that mobile drill platform!

[@squat224]

really like the idea of a mobile version, might make one that looks like one of those container ship cranes, where the drill arm is in the center of a large square frame

[@computeraidedworld1148]

Got the game yesterday and thought, about building this, and here someone already thought of it

[@0623kaboom]

if you put a refinery on the drill rig before the second cargo then you can use the second container to store the refined ores ... and the first to hold the raw stuff ... also you can add a solar array to the top of the rig to keep it powered nice and long ...

[@ChriSto2]

you should put ejectors on it and whitelist stones. So it only takes the Ore you want and drops the stone. I have this setup on all of my miners and it works perfectly fine!

[@scorpioncoreuniverse8981]

I'm definitely going to use that I'm I survival but I'm going to do a little changing up but man it looks awesome keep up the great work.

[@danielvomdorf8820]

hey mate, nice drilling rig...but automatic is somthing else you could use some timerblocks for the pistons and some math to calculate the exact time

[@diggz3041]

What kind of flight time do you get off of 2 engines and a tank on that utility ship?? That sounds to me like it'd fall down in five minutes.

[@95mmarier]

That's a wierd shape on the left 👀😂 45:15

[@Barathos]

I'm surprised you didn't put a refinery on the mega drill so you could be transporting pure materials.

[@evanherriges4042]

I believe the steel plates are from one of the drills getting damaged due it not being able to drill fast enough

[@jbkingjr1982]

LOL Every time he kept saying "100 thousand nickel" I'm like dude, that's one million. :p

[@Uzzgub]

I know this is a old vid but i would add a few wind turbines/ solar panels with a refinery with yeld mods to the set up and that would be a great way to sort out the ores at these kind of sites

[@Holagrimola]

I dont think you need to restart the whole Grid, just turning the engines off and on again worked for me.

[@thefade7651]

45:15 what does that looks like? lmao im laughing my ass off xD

[@Rebumai]

Where do you get your music that you use? Is it a mod or post editing stuff?

[@insulterman988]

How do you you switch from the big block to small block ( or big thruster to small thruster) on a ship/base because it's very annoying sticking to one or another

[@julianjohnson3077]

That mining rig will cost you a fortune in PCU on a MP server. I've got a rig that can do 3x the width with 5 Drills. Trick is to get clever with rotors and have the drill bore out horizontally.

[@Largoat]

sorry, I'm a beginner: how do you copy the machines to have the compsant in your ship builder? (white and blue lines) before welding the parts for your spinning miner?

[@mrboutsky]

If you mean how to make a blueprint it's Ctrl + B then name it and project it with a projector (the projector needs to be same size as the blueprint e.g. small grid projector can't do large grid blueprint )

[@GatoTomato]

Damn I've been trying to mine more ice in my own survival (lake is 6km from my base :( and this is such a good idea

[@dtremmor1622]

I built this rig tonight.... however all the ice seems to get stuck in the drills and not get funneled to the storage container. The setup is drill connected to rotor connection to pistons then junction and conveyored from junction to storage container.. Any Idea why the ice would not be moving from drill to storage ??

[@nightb49]

You can just restart the hydrogen engine instead of everything

[@empresslithia]

You should make a graph about the Nickel Band ;3

[@psyantologist]

I suppose you could switch off reactors instead of grinding them to non-functional =]

[@Bigrignohio]

Quite nice work vehicle. Do you have an updated blueprint loaded in the workshop? I don't see it.

[@Bscoop75]

hi great video. But I am dumbfounden as to H2 consumption of the mining ship you showed off in the beginning. I rebuilt it from scartch and the engines eat up the full tank in about 50 seconds. the H2 / O2 generator cannot keep up with fuel demands of the engines. how did you do this ?? thank you in advance

[@Kanajashi]

I am running a mod that makes hydrogen thrust 10x more efficient and have my world settings at 10x inventory so trying this ship without those will result in the ship not having enough ice to fly around for very long. If you want to use pure hydrogen ships I would recommend getting that mod! steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1552105261&searchtext=

[@matthewp4046]

Came here for automated mining; I haven't been following this series. What's the timestamp for that part? Looks like roughly 15:00 . @Kanajashi - That welding ship is gorgeous. Flies so smooth and does a great job.

[@supa_kern5869]

so simply designed too

[@Misteri0123]

You should use some solar panels on that mining rig

[@001sharpshot]

Can y'all explain how to make conveyors take ingots out of refineries and put it in storage instead? I wanna be able to hook up the stone/ore tank to the refinery and once it's been turned to ingots and everything, how do I get it to put it into separate containers?

[@mrjerryk]

@Kanajashi I know this is an older video, but how do you manually set the speed of the piston using the keyboard. I'm only able to use the slider.

[@FH-cn3mg]

Yeah, I see people do this all the time and cannot figure it out.

[@mrjerryk]

@@FH-cn3mg I found the answer a few hours after asking. CTRL click will do it.

[@norchaaa]

you just gave me a idea... i have my rover waiting for certain updates.

[@VolatileBullfrog]

8:10 - you're a leaf on the wind.

[@ash072]

are you able to put the main support stem of the drill on a rotor? That way you can swivel the entire arm 45 degrees or whatever and then do another huge circle of mining?

[@imxtraspicy7890]

Are you use any mods for the quarry itself or could I make that in my vanilla survival world? Sorry if it’s a dumb question I’m a bit new to space engineers

[@Kanajashi]

The quarry is entirely vanilla!

[@imxtraspicy7890]

Kanajashi thanks

[@hatac]

Put survival units on all the other cargo ports set to make ingots and add two wind mills to the tower. I'm doing a smaller one on the moon.

[@Kanajashi]

I have done this with basic refineries and the wind mills. Won't show up in the episodes for a bit though.

[@coreytaggart128]

I see these rigs and think well that works but I wan't more then stone, seems every deposit I find is like 40m down from the surface where clang "assists" with piston operation when extending that many of them. For something like nickel well you get that from stone as well as iron and silicon so why try for the deposit?

[@Dogburt_Junior]

This isn't different from a rig I made. I made mine and used timer blocks to plan everything out, and I had a LOT more pistons. To have it more stable, I used wheels on free rotors as support to prevent bending, and calculated it out.

[@zacharythomas8617]

This comment didn't age well.

[@Whisper0ak]

If you like the challenges of survival mode you might want to set your inventory setting to a more realistic level. Fitting that much ore in one cargo box is ridiculous.

[@diekartoffel9687]

Glad to see you again

[@SamirMamude]

Impressive!

[@Mark-xs1ys]

How does all of the drills deliver all the stone back to the cargo. Mine just stays in the drills even though they are close to each other like yours.

[@jdevans4484]

I am trying a smaller build of this, having trouble with the conver system. Is you advanced rotor a mod or something cause I’m not getting a connection on the bottom to connect a drill

[@jdevans4484]

Yeah after a little more messing with it I finally figured it out

[@jdevans4484]

Thanks for the reply

[@Penguin0000]

what button did you press to be able to add a custom input without the slider at 35:02 just started playing and cant figure it out.

[@JadeMonkey]

Penguino ctrl click

[@Penguin0000]

@@JadeMonkey thanks

[@kerbalairforce8802]

I know this is old, But I felt it was worth it on mine to use the "simple refinery" just to process stone into ingots while I was away.

[@seanrisner5314]

Ok never built an auto money but would it be better to have the rotation be the middle drill? Nota critique just curious

[@anonymos.videos]

The way you pronounce "let us" it sounds like "lettuce" xD And every time you say it i have to think about that lmao

[@aquaticguardian3754]

My new faction member just made this and then I just saw this video and got so confused so fast. I thought for a second that he was recording on the server then realized this was made 3 weeks ago and not yesterday Freaked me out though

[@ZanfenGMR]

You can use the refinery it works alot better then the kit for stone.

[@davidsisson194]

Just turning the generators off and back on will do it, don't need to turn off the entire grid.

[@mellowrebel4618]

2 PROGRAM BLOCKS CAN HANDLE THE DRILL CONTROLS

[@TheShadowStalker.]

btw go to any terminal and press k or open the controll tab and select the hydrogen generators and toggle them off then back on that way you dont have to shut the grid off

[@Zaachary09]

What is the key combination to quickly retrieve items to build a specific thing from a container?

[@DKdoman]

easy inventory mod

[@texmex01]

i know this series is long past this episode......but why not make a mining setup on the ice?

[@RainyDev]

How do you enter custom speed to the Piston ? (0.005 per example)

[@adeadchannel4129]

Wait. When you hover over a connector with a part. How do you grab parts for it?

[@feivel069]

Easy Inventory mod or IN GAME BUILD PLANNER.

[@startide]

Do the drills suffer from the strain of turning too fast ? Seemed like you could have drilled way much faster.

[@Psychotic41]

Do you happen to have the mining ship blueprint download on steam workshop that seems bad ass

[@jammedtoe9392]

that's pretty epic man.

[@JamesOfKS]

10:39 i felt that. we all been through it.

[@Pendragonau]

with your rigs you need a way to recharge the battery use a wind turbine

[@williamjoyce8414]

You got a blueprint for that mining ship ya got there?

[@jokerrabit]

you should add wheels to this so you can move it.

[@peterfixit7221]

why dont you use a sorter and a connector to dump (throw out) all the stone

[@agentgoldeneye3783]

Imagine if you threw a refiner on there and some wheels mine entire iron nodes in 10 minutes

[@draggy76]

a bit late, but all you need to do is toggle the engines themselves off then on again. not the entire base. make em a group and do it that way. much easier

[@thisweirdmustard]

I dont want to sound judgemental but dont you think that H engines are a bit inefficient for mining in atmo?Atmo thrusters would do just fine with batteries that can be recharged with just the solars.I get that hydro are better at lifting so you can have more effective load without worrying about the ship drifting,but is the expenditure worth it? No hate here just a honest question :) love to hear your take on it.Good vid and have a nice day

[@BEATHthat]

if you only turn the hydrogen engine off and then on again it also works

[@montyferguson4657]

It's funny how excited you get over nickel, cause in later videos you just shrug and say I have plenty of that back at base.😆