Space Heater Scams (Alpha Heater and More) - Krazy Ken's Tech Talk

[@ComputerClan]

Hey! Did you know I have an Etsy store now? 👀 There's some autographed stuff on there, too! thecomputerclan.com/etsy - Enjoy the new episode!

[@Hanz_em]

I love these debunking vids!

[@ReganMarcelis]

... New sub, a GTX 480 OR 580 WOULD WORK BEST, least Fermi cards were left well optimized! ....

[@Takoma-F5]

What about #HulkHeater ? Does it work? Supposed to heat 350 sq ft

[@TlnpotGaming]

DEBUNK Instacharger They say planned obsolescence makes phones batterys last not as long *may be a reskin of MultiVoltz*

[@hissingsidll750]

I think you missed the main thing.....HOW MUCH PER HOUR DO THEY COST TO RUN ? Also you could easily plug the the wall heater in to an extension cable to move it around

[@cojack]

I just came here because of some cringey ad about a jet engineer who designed a heater using aeroplane tech. Apparently it had energy company execs quaking in their boots. Glad to see someone is calling these things out!

[@bubbabuhe9745]

LOl... with all the industries they're destroying there are going to be tons of people out of work.

[@BoomsRiddico4868]

Why arent KZbin/google shutting them out of making money scamming?!

[@hasan1980hb]

I'm a energy company executed and shiver me timbers after seeing this

[@101Volts]

@@hasan1980hb I didn't know Windmill Companies could talk without representatives. When were you executed and what's this interesting means of speaking from ghost land or whatever it is?

[@EminoMeneko]

It's a small world. I came here out of research because I saw the same ad, I believe. Of course it is likely BS but you still need to check. Anyway I got my 455 scamed years back I bought a Dyson one years back. :'( Who knows that brand? I've been so naive on this one I guess. But it actually works so...

[@utah133]

As an electronics engineer, I always laugh when I hear these heaters are "breakthrough efficient." All heaters are 100 percent efficient. Electricity's favorite thing is to make heat. Every other device design is a battle to prevent heat!

[@rolyantrauts2304]

I wish that knowledge was mandated as the huge number of big name brands selling AA++ electric heaters for a premium is a global disgrace.

[@EnforcerMJ]

LOL LOL LOL. Just had to reply to this, Still laughing! I just LOVE all the people I read in all sorts of posts claiming that electric heaters are "100% efficient". LOL Wow, as an electronics engineer I hold you to a higher standard and would expect you to realize this is ABSOLUTELY NOT TRUE! I'm tempted to tell you to go and RESEARCH THIS if you actually don't believe me, since you really ought to know better. There are actually several reasons this is FALSE, but a few of the factors involved are actually fairly DEEP concepts and I'm guessing by your lame claim that you might not actually be able to grasp them. So, for sake of keeping this short and simple, I'm only going to enlighten you with the most OBVIOUS reason your claim is false. It's called LIGHT!!! Have you heard of it???? Almost ALL heaters (only exception that comes to mind are IR PANELS) EMIT LIGHT!!! You know that little orange glow you see inside those heaters? Well guess what. That's called LIGHT, and LIGHT is ENERGY!!! That means part of that electrical input energy is being turned into LIGHT ENERGY! DUUUH! Ok, can't resist, here's one more. Many heaters also use FANS. All fans produce SOUND as well. Sound is ENERGY, and therefore, both sound and light energy are being subtracted from the HEAT ENERGY which the heater is supposed to be producing. It is a completely naive and low intel assumption to think that all energy being produced by a heater is 100% heat. Everyone knows that MOST "wasted energy" from all sorts of devices is actually given off in the form of heat, and so low level thinking numb nuts (and a few "electronic engineers") think they are showing their intelligence (and I guess in a way they are), by spewing drivel they think make them seem smart, since they assume that no matter how cheap a heater is, hey, if it wastes energy that means it's just more HEAT, and of course for a heater, heat is GOOD! WRONG! Think again brainiac. If you feel like really doing some research, you will find there are numerous other ways that not all heaters offer the same degree of efficiency, but it would take HOURS to explain it all to you and I don't think you're up to the task.

[@herculesbrofister265]

I had to look the elite heat up after seeing a fake news ad here. It was basically claiming it was invented by some high school or college kid cuz his parents couldn't afford heat or some ridiculous plot. And of course big energy was trying to silence him after inventing

[@rolyantrauts2304]

@@herculesbrofister265 Yep Total BS but its industry wide with big players getting AA+ energy ratings because yeah doh electric apart from very small loss is near as damn it 100% efficient. Its very basic in these times of crazy Kwh prices is that a fan heater can be directed at you and keep you warm than trying what might be mission impossible of the whole room.

[@applejacks74]

Well said

[@hectorheath9742]

There should be a law that prevents these scammers preying on innocent people just trying to keep warm.

[@jaykoerner]

There is, it's called fraudulent advertising charges

[@rswow]

KZbin is promoting these scams thru the ads over the content. E.g. the alpha heater aka ecoheat. That ad keeps appearing week after week.

[@obeseperson]

But then how will I make any money

[@Perplexer1]

AI generated videos of Elon Musk regularly run as ads here on KZbin. I reported one of them as "fraud/scam" but got an answer back that the video/ad does not break any term of service. That's all you need to know.

[@jaymesnin]

Should sue youtube. Majority of their adds are scams

[@tobbleboii5988]

Here in Germany, this thing is marketed as Instaheat, and the ad tells you that it's 90% more efficient than regular heaters. It was also supposedly invented by a german student who was sick of the school being so cold (Germany might be facing gas shortages during the winter due to the war in Unkraine, which is why public buildings are only heted to 19C/66F) the big heating companies wanted to buy his idea, but he refused and got kicked from his university obviously. Insta heat also aledgedly uses the Joule-Thompson-Effect, which is just more bs on top. The ad also features a nice prototyping montage of someone adding a fan so some flowerpots, because convection and ceramics? those ads are always a blast

[@bobnewton1064]

I’ve gotten one but they didn’t claim the guy was German they made him out to be American lol

[@YamiLunaria]

Yeah lmao it's marketed as Thermofast here in Italy it's basically 2 ex engineers that were tired of seeing people pay so much and the design is slightly different

[@davidmowbray6352]

They use the Bernoulli principle in the U.K. and were invented a man who experienced fuel poverty as a child.

[@fralou_sind_kreativ]

I saw the commercial yesterday where the inventor of "Alpha-Heat", apparently it got a new name in Germany (weird) was a forty-year old American who was worried about german winters (LOL!). All in all heating like that would be pretty cool. Fortunately german winters aren't THAT cold. Still. I think it's a bad to pull money from people that don't do research but believe immediately what they are seeing being advertised :(

[@tobbleboii5988]

@@davidmowbray6352 that is actually slightly more correct, but the bernoulli effect doesn't realky have anything to do with thermodynamics xD

[@michaelteter]

I'm here because that small heater is a constant KZbin ad (November 2023) promoting some high school student who supposedly invented this to solve his school's heating problems.

[@MD-vk3bj]

I'm surprised this one didn't just have you light a candle inside it

[@legoman8960]

lol

[@SmeddyTooBestChannel]

that's too high of a bar

[@coreyskixjewelry]

Lmao

[@xzero6850]

Hahahaha

[@user-fz7bl6hq7s]

hahahhahahahahahha

[@NoobixCube]

Out of curiosity, I'd love to see you send that little "Elite Heat" to Big Clive. I bet he'd have things to say about the electronics inside.

[@Sekir80]

I second that!

[@Isolder74]

Based on what I can see of it, it looks very dangerous. Those soldering points are cheap and look ready to pull apart. I’d say never plug it in as it’s going to short itself out.

[@NoobixCube]

@@Isolder74 I'm wondering if there's enough separation on that board to keep the mains voltage where it belongs.

[@Isolder74]

@@NoobixCube There probably do, just enough to function, but not near enough to be fully safe. It does need to run long enough to appear to work but that workmanship is horrible.

[@gmcnewlook]

yeah someone should send one to clive that would be entertaining and informative

[@webrunner42]

9:20 it occurs to me that putting the fan RIGHT NEXT TO THE WALL would severely limit the amount of air that can flow in. Like, it's really easy to make a heater. it's the easiest thing in the world. How they managed to make one less efficient than the average is, actually, kind of impressive.

[@Hanz_em]

Actually, if you look closely, there's a spacer on the plug so that there's a reasonable gap between the wall and the fan grill behind the heater. The problem is that it's not at all powerful to heat a small room fast enough to feel a difference. Edit: actually, now that I look at it, I think your right about it being right up against the wall. Whenever he pushes a button, it gets crooked and gets pushed towards the wall.

[@ThePrufessa]

Right it's much harder to cool hot air down.

[@StealthSecrecy]

Not really less efficient, but less effective. It will produce the same amount of heat as any other heater of the same wattage, just that it might take longer for that heat to dissipate through the room. Would've liked to see a power draw test done on these things to see what it's actually using.

[@Isolder74]

@@ThePrufessa It’s easier to increase entropy then to locally reverse it.

[@StormsparkPegasus]

It's impossible to make a heater more or less efficient. Electric resistive heaters, by design, are 100% efficient. But these things run on what, 5 volts? You aren't getting any meaningful amount of heat out of that.

[@boggo3848]

I just got an insane UK ad for this going on about how it was invented by a teenager who was expelled from his school after creating this (alpha heater clone) and investors and the government came after him looool. It literally used the word "perpetual heating" in it and it implies it costs only 5% the same electricity cost as normal heating. We are going through a really bad gas shortage in the UK and the video specifically targeted it at people struggling to heat their homes this winter. Disgusting.

[@peterjackson2625]

If it only uses 5% of the electricity of conventional heater, you only get 5% of the heat out.

[@LlamasWithiMacs]

I got an ad for this where they used a clip from this video for some reason. There was a “Swedish jet engineer” who “destroyed the billion dollar HVAC industry”

[@Nerd_Detective]

Wild how brazen they are, but they are scam artists after all. Amazing how many different prodigies invented the exact same device. I've also see a genius but cold engineering student and a war veteran with his NASA son.

[@themadatheist1976]

Happy with my $16, 1500w, Walmart heater. Far better than that $140 1200w one, and don't get me started with the 350w one that performs better than $1500 ones.

[@MrGonzo861]

@@user-kc1tf7zm3b Yes, Spend thousands to save maybe 20 bucks a month, Totally sensible.

[@SianaGearz]

@@user-kc1tf7zm3b What matters is not the wattage of the device but the kWh per year that you need for your supplemental heating. If you're only cold for a few days a year, with central/gas/whatever primary heating that you have doing the bulk of the job, and only need to run it for a short-ish time, there's no shame in a resistive heater.

[@user-kc1tf7zm3b]

@@MrGonzo861 Saving ‘$20 a month’? This may be the case for you, with whatever assumptions - both realistic and erroneous - you have placed into your use case. For starters, this ‘[spending] thousands’ claim on heat pumps may not be accurate at all, especially if a single ordinary sized room is to be heated or cooled by an individual split system heat pump. There is no denying that electric air heat pumps are very effective and efficient in heating and cooling the home throughout the year. Heat pumps commonly have a heating Coefficient Of Performance (COP) rating of at least 5. Which means for every 1 watt of electricity is used as the input, there will be a heat output of 5 watts. So, when a heat pump is running at 0.5kW (500 watts) of electricity, the resultant heat output will be a very significant 2.5kW (2500 watts). The inverter heat pump will naturally modulate the system input/output once the desired temperature has been reached, so only the truly necessary electricity wattage will be used at any point in time. www.bostonstandardplumbing.com/blog/air-source-heat-pumps-can-save-money/ kzbin.info/www/bejne/e2LZcpesqMZqmKc

[@user-kc1tf7zm3b]

@@SianaGearz This all depends on the assumptions and realities with a particular use case scenario example. And, ultimately, what the home owner's expectations are. But, in any case, using many radiant heaters as the primary heating source around the home, at the same time, is just nuts.

[@user-kc1tf7zm3b]

A *1500 watt* appliance used continuously as the primary heating method will kill your bank balance when the electricity bill comes around. A reverse cycle air conditioner - a heat pump - is the only rational and sensible choice.

[@grahamking8039]

Love the way KZbin adds an advert for these wonderful space heaters onto the front of your video explaining what a scam they are! By the way, the adverts for these heaters that we get pushed at us in the UK claim that they were invented by a student in Leicester

[@ullrich]

Lmao I literally saw an add for one of these before this video.

[@fairydust-ky4oc]

They are made by a war veteran here in the USA, after he got frostbite of course 😂😂😂

[@anniemac3075]

​@@ullrich There's one before & after this on mine!

[@tomorrow6]

In australia they were invented by “two people that left a tech company”

[@sheilamc3420]

Yes, I'm sure they were...at a professorial level. And then the board fired him, for no reason, right? That's what they do in the US...why didn't Biden step in???😂😂😂

[@YakulDeath]

You guys should also check out the technology connections video in space heaters. Unfortunately the whole industry is full of BS.

[@razerow3391]

I second this. Also his videos on photography are really informative.

[@user-kc1tf7zm3b]

For serious home or office heating, a reverse cycle air conditioner, aka a heat pump, is the only rational and sensible choice. Gas and wood heaters are terribly inefficient, and, produce ungodly pollution emissions. An electric radiant heater will lead to truly staggering power bills; a user would ignore the ‘1500 / 2300 watt’ power rating detail at their peril! Radiant heaters are only for idiots.

[@stitchfinger7678]

@@user-kc1tf7zm3b Nobody is using a heater like this full time or for a whole abode.

[@user-kc1tf7zm3b]

@@stitchfinger7678 What total nonsense. Due to apathy, ignorance and basic living circumstances, a good number of people use radiant heaters as their primary heating method throughout the home. This is why radiant heaters are so ubiquitous at the retailers’ shop shelves. Only an insane homeowner would use radiant heaters at all, avoiding far more efficient heat pumps. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jF7Nnoagrpd0qK8 kzbin.info/www/bejne/bXuYY6B6n7-tqtE

[@Bobis32]

@@user-kc1tf7zm3b Renters my friend i cant buy a better furnace or add a heat pump so resistive heat it is

[@annejohnson7305]

Thanks Ken, Need more people like you, many people are gullible to bs

[@chrisaviolist]

Well I'll be darned! I reloaded this youtube video page and there was a scam ad for THE VERY PRODUCT IN THIS VIDEO. Thank you for an in depth comparison and analysis.

[@chubbyadler3276]

I still have one of those smaller heaters from when they first come out in the late 1990s and early 2000s. They were originally marketed as being for use under a desk instead of for a room.

[@TheDawnofVanlife]

They are actually great for that. As I find if I can keep my feet and hands warm I am good for the most part.

[@zyphyrjlc9210]

have a soleios branded one that clames 100w the desk trick really helps as with the other guy i only need my hands and feet warm and im good

[@GRBtutorials]

4:20 TBF, that’s technically right, they do heat the room within 30 seconds, just not to a significant degree, let alone a confortable temperature.

[@raven4k998]

basically they output heat in 30 seconds is more accurate then heat the room up in 30 seconds they just use word play to get you to buy it before you can go after something else to buy

[@lordphullautosear]

It creates a temperature increase that is less than what's being attributed to "global warming."

[@time4change878]

Great product review. I bought one of these 'Alpha' style heaters from a local B&M store on offer for £4 or around $4.50. It was a good buy AT THAT PRICE. Ideal for small room or caravan. Even when not on offer they are only around £12. DO NOT GET SCAMMED. Remember the old saying if it looks too good to be true it is.

[@kmoorman2008]

Yep. I bought one from China (AliExpress) for about a fiver too (£). I wanted a lower powered one as the inverter in my campervan isn't that powerful and I didn't want to 'trip' it. It does exactly what I wanted it to do.

[@damianeadie510]

Btw.. the scam is run by: DFO GLOBAL PERFORMANCE COMMERCE LIMITED Location: United States As I've just been fed that 'schoolboy inventor' one again... where he coukd heat a room by 10 degrees for 95% less cost... ?! Rported them again. Shame on KZbin

[@HellRaiserShook]

How much does it cost per hour

[@andyfield7397]

B&M have got a lot of that sort of stuff and soup too !

[@emmanuelm777]

Is it good hows the energy/electricity expenditure on these quite a bit or.?

[@fgrafals21]

This video is 2 years old as I am viewing it today and the little heater featured, you know the one totally destroying the heating industry, is the ad that popped up. This is awesome!!!!

[@lewiemcneely9143]

Years ago when ceramic heaters came out we ended up with a little brown job that was about 6 inches square that did a wonderful job heating up the bathroom. Now we have one with the fake fireplace in the living room for looks and a heat pump that works really well. I really ;like ceramic heaters but not enough to pay $1500 bucks for one. Thanks for another good one and Blessings!

[@TheGodOfAllThatWas]

I really wish you put them on a kill-o-watt to measure the rating claim. Also throwing in one you could pickup locally from a walmart or home depot or something I think would have been good to measure how much the pricing was off.

[@tommytomthms5]

I got a "brighttown" one from biglots a couple years back. far from warm, but keeps me from freezing, so literally better than not having it.

[@juj298]

Very good if you live in a shoe Box

[@gremlinsaregold8890]

These heaters are on sale on Alibaba for as low as $4. Exactly the same product...absolutely not the slightest difference. You can just imagine how dangerous they are. The vendor there claim they are rated at 350w but I have my suspicions that even then it's a 100w element and a 12w fan. What's a crime here is that KZbin know these scams are going on yet continue to allow scam websites to set up Google ads accounts without the slightest problems. In fact given the large spend Google ads engineers will help advertiser's to target the most likely customers... Which in this case are uneducated and naive people who know very little about basic physics.

[@rvlifestylelivin]

mainstay 1500w ceramic heater from walmart ($22) is all you need! actually blows all the rest out of the water, its cheap and 99% efficient, and has lasted me for years upon years!

[@jamesdinius7769]

Come on Blaux. You actually had a good product here. Something like that is perfect for a small bedroom/office while most space heaters are sized for larger spaces. But noooo, still gotta do the scarcity tactics and overpricing.

[@danielvanced5526]

It's well over priced considering. I just bought a similar size and rated PTC Heater from a semi known brand for £30. It also has a thermostat, which the Blaux doesn't have. Less than half the price for a batter product.

[@soltcolt4506]

Can you blame them? I would too sell a 10$ unit for a 100$ if I could find some idiots who would buy it. Nowadays business tactics based on ignorance and overall stupidity are really profitable. Honestly if you believe anything they say on their website then you pretty much deserve to be scammed. Harsh, but true.

[@Reverend_Salem]

some thing like this might even be decent for keeping on your desk to keep your hands warm while on your computer. assuming you dont have a laptop.

[@stinkycheese804]

Not so perfect, little units like that tend to have a shorter lifespan from the higher thermal density and shorter lived fan, while a normal sized 1500W ceramic heater, only takes up a few more square inches of space, plus the larger, lower heat density designs don't have to be placed as far away from everything else for the same safety factor, so you really gain practically nothing from this small size unless it needs to fit in a backpack or something, or maybe closet of a tiny apartment in the off-seasons when it's not being used.

[@troodon1096]

It's debatable whether it's worth what they're charging for it (not really), but it does at least work, got to give them that much.

[@AnonymousFreakYT]

My favorite is the claim that is' "super efficient" or "more efficient". It's a resistive heater. Efficiency is "energy in turned into desired work" - a resistive heater is always 100% efficient. It always turns 100% of the energy in to heat. Because "efficiency" of other devices is really "how *little* of the energy in is put out as waste heat compared to the desired work" - an 80% efficient computer power supply means 80% of the energy goes to run the computer, and only 20% is "waste heat" at the power supply level. When your entire goal is to produce heat, *nothing* is "waste heat", so you're 100% efficient. So any resistive heater that claims it's more efficient than any other resistive heater is guaranteed BS. (Note that heat pumps can actually be *MORE* than 100% efficient, because their job is to _move_ heat around, and they can move more heat around for a given amount of electrical energy than a resistive heater creates. So a 1000W heat pump can move 1500W of heat energy for example. That's what a conventional air conditioner is - just running with the "cold" side of the system being the room you want to cool. A heat pump is just an air conditioner in reverse - you put the "cold" side outside, and the "warm" side in the room you want to cool.)

[@Pentti_Hilkuri]

For once they're not bullshitting, 100% is super efficient =)

[@dashcamandy2242]

100% efficiency would mean none of the electricity is wasted in producing light - which is a side effect of many resistive heaters.

[@thomasbodrey]

Somebody watches Technology Connections...

[@TheDeadheadable]

@@thomasbodrey or sombody knows how electricity and phase change refrigerarion works.

[@wilsjane]

@@dashcamandy2242 Since a tungsten filament lamp bulb produces 97% heat and only 3% light, the light produced from a heater element is less than 0.1%. Other losses include a minute amount of magnetism and in some cases sound in the form of a buzz at the frequency of an AC supply.

[@The-Spotlight-Kid]

Here in u.k. a late night shopping channel runs an ad' for that little heater that fits & sticks directly onto your wall socket. 'Our' ad' starts with a hartwarming story of how a pictured actor, i mean how this "credited scientist" saw the need for cheap heating to save the public & how he put his highly important job on hold to painstakingly design this identical same heater as I see here, except for the logo name. "Beware of Copies" it also says. £89 g.b. price reduced from some stupid-high price, complete with a stark warning about how bloody fast they're going to sell out. I've noticed it often now, while surfing tv channel post-midnight. You'd think the ad was trying to get the "credited scientist" made into a Saint or at least given a knighthood or the Nobel Prize for "saving mankind from freezing to death" On that ad' you pause to see all the spec's flashed up, & see a 600'Watt & a 1200'watt setting i.e. high! like old-school electric bar fires at 1'KW per 12" wound bar, but it's identical in size & every feature to the one here.

[@ryanhampson673]

When ever I see KZbin ads saying “this invention destroyed the billion dollar (insert product here) industry” you know it’s a load of bull.

[@dirkbonesteel]

Direct plugging the heater to the outlet should speed up the overheating / damage to the outlet. So that's nice

[@Isolder74]

Always a good idea to put a heating element right next to a sheet of drywall. I don’t see a single problem with this idea!

[@johanea]

@@Isolder74 Neither do I since dry walls are not flammable.

[@Isolder74]

@@johanea I presume the drywall you use isn’t sheathed in paper then.

[@chunkychuck]

Should try plugging them into a Kill a watt to see their true power rating :)

[@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley]

That would've been interesting.

[@D44RK_Iced_Yogs]

@@awesomeferret he does have many things in the works so I can tell how some things like that can go through the cracks

[@lemonflavorclorox7389]

@@awesomeferret because he is not TechnologyConnections 😂

[@lemonflavorclorox7389]

@@awesomeferret True right? For that level of thoroughness you’d probably need bigclive or technologyconnections. This one is just an Amazon review narrated in a story form. That’s it

[@lemonflavorclorox7389]

@@awesomeferret nah not taking it seriously. In terms of in depth just my opinion that it’s always technology connections of big Clive that cover all the aspects. This one, always been an Amazon video review style stuff. Just sayin. Nothing wrong tho. Some people probably don’t wanna know technical details

[@ThePrufessa]

4:49 this is a hilarious way to hide the fact that everyone gets their supply from the same Ali baba vendor.

[@LuisLopez2]

Some years back I did a website for a company that sells textiles for spas, like massage bed covers and pillow covers and such things, and they have built this b******* narrative behind the company that all the products were made by these family owned small company in China blah blah blah. And because I had some access to some of the information in the back end I actually looked it up and I found out it was the same factory that made all the textiles for them and all their competitors in the us. And I mean literally the same place, this big microfactory in China

[@Gigi-uy3wt]

🤣🤣

[@herculesbrofister265]

Ali baba and his 40 thieves.

[@slingshot1961]

My wife drives me crazy with this crap. I've been a technician for 40 years and have tried to explain to her why this can't possibly work, but she always doubts me. Thanks for making a video to reinforce my claim!

[@AdventuresandLifestyle]

Those elite and alpha style heaters advertised on Ebay and Amazon left me annoyed due to their claims. I confronted and complained to both companies. Ebay simply ignored my data and warnings. From what you mentioned about the Alpha being withdrawn from Amazon - good to hear that. Sadly a different make has reappeared using the exact same design here in the UK. Merry Christmas CC and all.

[@lewcrowley3710]

And KZbin lets them be forced commercials!

[@jackwood2328]

Krazy Ken is the best natural TV presenter I've ever seen. Funny, all in the facial expressions, not irritating. Very talented.

[@rachelcharris]

I actually own what you call the Alpha heater and I just want to put my own experience over for people to get a balanced view. I have it under the PCN portable blaupunkt brand and it cost £15 here in the UK. I bought it from B&M. It did have a dreadful smell for quite a while when I bought it but there is a warning about that and it does burn off. I have found it quite difficult to use in a big room but if I use it in my bedroom it is super portable then it heats up the room perfectly well very quickly. Easy to store and transport. In a bigger room it's more difficult of course but the biggest thing I would say is to be careful with it plugged into the wall because it is quite heavy and it does droop a bit. I found it works very well if you plug it into a 4 bar adaptor and make sure everything's clear away from it there and it has plenty of room around its vents etc but then the heat pumps upwards and you can see the dial better as well very good. Originally I bought this because it was a low wattage in the energy crisis and also because I wanted to dry my washing on the airer as I have some damp issues in my flat so I could position it quite close to the clothes drying and have a heated airer as long as I left enough space between the two. Cheaply. Anyway I hope this gives you of you is another view what's £15 in an energy crisis with a low wattage heater, I'd say it's pretty good purchase 👍

[@scotexscarrier8461]

hi, how long do you run it for, several hrs i quess if your drying your laundry? , and have you noticed any sizeable increase in your lecky bill?

[@rachelcharris]

@@scotexscarrier8461 hi just bought it so not sure but just using as normal heater so far and it is good. Thermostat too. So should be economic.

[@dna9838]

You’re doing a really great job with these debunking videos. I hope everyone tempted by the many many scam and borderline scam ads on youtube will watch your vids before committing their money. When it comes to heaters like these, the ads are often selling hard and linking with the current energy crisis, so they’re directly targeting the most vulnerable.

[@time4change878]

To put it bluntly they are sc*m

[@Buster_Piles]

At the moment an ad for the smaller heater runs constantly on KZbin. Even I as a fairly naive person could tell the advert is laughably false (it claims the device was made by an aerospace engineer because he didn't want to see his poor grandparents who had raised him going cold in "my area" where its freezing for months and months. Apparently the inventor just wants to help everyone and wishes he could sell it cheaper and they've nearly run out. The Chinese sellers could at least get a better ad-writer. Good video, confirmed what I was 99% sure of.

[@harrisnaran8207]

@@Buster_Piles HI BRO, YOU FORGOT TO LEVE YOUR LAST MESSAGE: "NEVER BUY SUCH JUNK"!

[@misterironic2748]

My stepdad bought me something like the alpha heater and it was obviously not pushing out much hot-air and my stepdad would get pissed at me for sitting close to it lmao but you literally couldn't feel anything 3+ feet away and it took a solid like 8-9 hours to feel a difference in temperature in the room

[@weehoozy4454]

My mum got me one last year but she recently bought 4 of those kinetic heaters going around now and I was searching for more info on those, and got here. I only use mine when I come inside and it's cold out to heat up, but it definitely doesn't heat up rooms like it says

[@JamesPlaysGames95]

I kept seeing ads for these products and they kept claming they were miracle products to help save money for people who cant afford heating. then they ranted about its "two founders" of the "company" and it never said their names or showed pics

[@LottieLucid]

I just saw the second one advertised on another KZbin video, with a whole back story about this college student who invented it to help people out, and how he came up against all sort of issues against the corruption of the energy industry but you can buy one and support his business for £50 .... I thought it seemed scammy lol

[@nickcoppard5335]

It's probably made by an electric company so you buy more electric , , just get a woodburner , you can't go to the woods and gather electric

[@maurices8301]

Same. Wanted to check asap

[@paintspot1509]

KZbin is full of these scam adverts.

[@loveispatientloveiskind2205]

I fell for it... we're desperate In England

[@kami-kun_va]

££££

[@Isolder74]

The reason I find these sketchy is because they run on low watt power supplies. There just isn’t enough energy there to do what they claim. Especially any of them that run on a 5 Watt usb power supply.

[@user-kc1tf7zm3b]

The ‘appliance’ is only for stupid people.

[@eDoc2020]

No, these ones plug directly into the wall so they truly can consume hundreds of watts.

[@Isolder74]

@@eDoc2020 There are some that do plug into the USB outlet. They make crazier claims.

[@user-kc1tf7zm3b]

@@eDoc2020 These mains powered electric radiant heaters can draw up to a staggering 1500 watts or 2300 watts, depending on the country. These relatively inefficient heaters used continuously as the primary heating method will kill your bank balance when the electricity bill comes around. A reverse cycle air conditioner - a heat pump - is the only rational and sensible choice, when one owns their own home. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bXuYY6B6n7-tqtE

[@eDoc2020]

@@user-kc1tf7zm3b Yes, heat pumps are a much better use of energy to heat a house but that doesn't change the fact that these portable heaters are technically 100% efficient. I wouldn't suggest using one as primary heat except in extreme/emergency cases but they can be useful if you want one area to be a bit warmer than the rest of the building.

[@HeadsetGuy]

Wait, I just realized... The article you showed off about the Elite Heat also makes reference to "the original _Amper_ Heat". More inconsistencies means more red flags!!

[@ComputerClan]

Yeah, I was confused about that one, too. x_x

[@dennisphoenix1]

The best part is the ad for the cr@p heater just before the video that debunks it's claims . Well done you tube , perfect ad placement 😂😂

[@austinphotographer]

I've had the Alpha heater for over a year and it works great under my desk. I haven't timed it but it heats up great for like fifteen minutes and then shuts off for five minutes and repeats. The plug rotates nicely and I have it plugged into a power bar. Paid $49.00. It's 20 degrees outside right now. No complaints here. Thumbs up.

[@Jack_Stafford]

For $50 you could have just turned up your thermostat a couple of degrees.

[@Neilhuny]

Just came here because the AlphaHeater/EliteHeat is now being advertised as the Ultraheat Pro for £55 (or $62), claiming it is a brand new invention made by a Czech jet engineer. In the UK the same thing is offered on Amazon for £21

[@starmartyr]

Canadian here, and this "Alpha Heat" came up in a KZbin ad as being designed by a former U.S. jet engineer... had to check it out and that led me here too :)

[@jakien]

UK here, ads say it was invented by a genius school kid, after he struggled to study in sub 10 temperatures...

[@MaryKayPerris]

You are absolutely right, Krazy Ken!!I got really sucked in by this Alpha bunch called Margin Ltd - paid $208 Cdn for 4 of these things ---- at 60% off. They came in a white box - no info on box, no alpha name and some instructions inside - no technical info. I would like to know how to get this info all over the net to help people be aware of what is going on with this Alpha product. Thanks for your insight into this - I am so glad I stumbled onto your vid!!

[@havfunwithit]

I got my Alfa lookalike at Walmart for $8. I love it for what I use it for. I have a small 14’ camper and that little heater razes the temp 20 degrees from the outside temp. In most cases it eliminated the need to run my gas heater in an electric hookup campsite. The Walmart model seemed to be well made and thermostat worked great. Not having a cord was also a good feature in a small camper. Mine said it was 250 watts but did the job. I can see it doing a good job in heating one room in a large camper.

[@oscar38]

Sounds perfect for that job. Trouble is, I'm hearing ads saying it can heat large rooms in minutes.

[@joshm3342]

I run my heater on its lowest setting (500 watts). It's connected to a digital thermostat for precise temperature control. It takes a while, but eventually gets my bedroom warm. Provided your space has some insulation, even a small heater will get it warm given enough time, and low wattage units run less risk of overloading circuits.

[@Andrew-rc3vh]

I bought one of those. It's a low wattage heater but I specifically wanted one of that power and it works really well. It was very cheap and I dismantled it at one point and noticed it was nicely constructed. So no scam there, and thumbs up to the manufacturers.

[@geeber8136]

I've just seen a KZbin advert for alpha heat claiming a jet engineer developed it after 27 prototypes and it uses 80%less power than central heating. Lol.

[@Toxicity1987]

The claim that they are more efficient than the competition. Every electric heater is 100% efficient. Only heat pumps are more efficient.

[@seanplace8192]

_EdenPure has left the chat_

[@user-kc1tf7zm3b]

For serious home or office heating, a reverse cycle air conditioner, aka a heat pump, is the only rational and sensible choice. Gas and wood heaters are terribly inefficient, and, produce ungodly pollution emissions. An electric radiant heater will lead to truly staggering power bills; a user would ignore the ‘1500 / 2300 watt’ power rating detail at their peril! Radiant heaters are only for idiots.

[@scottjtube]

@@seanplace8192 wasn't that the one Paul Harvey used to advertise on his show, way back in the day?

[@juergenernst1320]

So heat pumps are what? 110%, 120? 😂

[@Toxicity1987]

@@juergenernst1320 300-400% actually.

[@BaronEurchild]

I will tell you, I have one of those tiny heaters. Got it for $20 (I think) at Walmart. I use it in a 6x6 Basement bathroom with no other heat source except What happens to come from elsewhere. We leave it on full crank and it is great for when you are in the bathtub. Perfect for tiny rooms.

[@havfunwithit]

I got mine at Walmart marked down to $8. I love it in my small camper.

[@sharongraham4]

Glad I watched this. I nearly brought one. Panicking about not being able to keep my kids warm this winter 🤦🏻😞. Thank you

[@nickcoppard5335]

Best way to heat the room , set fire to the box it came in

[@britisheagle9776]

Well mine works okay my bedroom is lovely and warm

[@nickcoppard5335]

@@britisheagle9776 work out what it ACTUALY COSTS TO RUN , around 35 p an hour now , over 50 quid a week , ANY electric ( resistance ) heating is expensive , do not fall for the bs , all these things being invented , when dad sees electric bill you will have a warm botty

[@loganjameshannahjane1232]

I love how you break down the video and analyze all aspects. Your videos are new to me,..... but I instantly fell in love with the way you break it down. Nice work sir

[@amzonfire6013]

Thank you for exposing this product as a scam. I was interested in it, but suspicious about it, so I'm glad that I found this video. Thanks to this video, I won't be wasting my money on this scam.

[@JasonHalversonjaydog]

yeah i'd never pay that price even if it does work. i've got a 3 speed ceramic space heater that cost me like $30 and it works great

[@ghostface5559]

for those in the states, max output is 3k watts hard stop so your big giant heater that says it heats a room has as much power as the medium one. space heaters are dangerous so use them with supervision.

[@originalpineapplemojo]

I’ve used one of those Elite Heat things (different brand name) and it works nicely to keep a closed room from getting too cold. It won’t heat it up, but it keeps it from being totally freezing in the morning.

[@chrisantoniou4366]

However... you shouldn't be leaving it on UNATTENDED!

[@larryjohns8823]

I bought a 800/1500 watt heater from Walmart for $23. It is very compact and will keep my 30ft camper warm. It has 2 heat settings and a thermostat knob that shuts off the unit when the desired temperature is obtained. Also has tip over safety. Spend less and get more, what a deal! Mainstays wsh10c2abb $22.96

[@larryjohns8823]

Yes, I use the same heater in my camper. That little sucker will keep the temperature in the hi 60's on a 40 degree day. I feel any heater needs a thermostat to keep it from running all the time it is on.

[@TakoyaKyono]

Saw a Facebook advert pop up for "Elite Heat" and started going on about some jet engineer from America designed and built the Elite Heat 🤣

[@SeraphimGoose]

Man I wish I had seen this video two months ago. I needed a heater for my room to at least keep it in the 70s for my animals and the Alpha Heater worked pretty darn decently for like three weeks, then it started having problems. It would run for a few minutes and then shut off. Finally I took it apart and used some canned air to clean it figuring that maybe all the tiny feathers and dander from my parakeets got in there and were causing problems, and it actually worked. Now it's a few weeks later and the same problem developed, but the same procedure isn't helping. I haven't even had it two months at the writing of this comment. Seems to just be a crappy product. Also I should say that mine arrived quickly but in a more blank (and damaged) box, and the heater itself had scratches on the display screen, as if it was used. I'm also annoyed how much standard Google searches seem to suppress results critical of products like this. This is my first exposure to your channel and I just wanted to say that I appreciate your content! Good stuff. Thanks.

[@Iristallite]

I laughed so hard at the "similar, less efficient devices cost upwards of $1500" because *I have* a heater that was $100 (CAD, so it's actually cheaper than these scams if you convert the currencies) that is way better at heating a large room. (Well, at least it's better than the wall-plug heater)

[@raven4k998]

or you can buy a more powerful unit for the same price or less from home depo or crappy tire or wallymart🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@gowdsake7103]

Ummmm there is no technology to create more heat from a small element

[@jackbushell9564]

Seeing the Blaux actually work in this Ep is like when you see a villain in the first film become a good guy in the sequel

[@raven4k998]

crap your pants the heaters actually make some heat unlike those a/c products that don't do anything at all🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@russphilly]

thats because it blows i mean blaux's

[@raven4k998]

@@russphilly yeah blaux's is the family friendly way to say blows🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@yanj111]

like the terminator T-800 in the sequel, yeah, it happens🤣🤣

[@californiadragyn]

The way YOU made this video, it felt fun, educational, informative and saves viewers money by avoiding scammy junk. The ending felt like a cool movie at the theater!

[@Grandma7T7]

LOL I actually love my little insta heat heater just to take the chill off my bathroom. I have never had to set it above 68. Yes, I do shut it off every time and unplug it from the wall. I did not pay $ 49, more like $20? Good review though, I look forward to seeing more. Blessings!

[@mikeg5039]

I love how defensive these scammers are

[@davidcarson4421]

In reply to my messages about scamming and bogus claims, the first thing they say is, “We are a legitimate company….” Sure. I believe same company also sells the bogus devices to lower electric bills.

[@danielvanced5526]

PTC heaters can have a very high initial peak power draw, especially when cold, in the order of 2-3x their rated power. So that 1200w, might be true for peak power on initial warming of the elements. But this only lasts a few seconds and rapidly drops as the elements reach operating temps.

[@raven4k998]

well if you add a high output fan on it that could increase the power draw for it to make it draw for longer

[@PascalGienger]

A DeLonghi fan space heater is $18 and works as well - it actually heats a room when you need it as there is no other heating.

[@gavinheron1]

Many thanks from a cold Scotland. You saved me £50 as I’d been tempted to buy the Alpha rubbish.

[@RileyVance-u9x]

I'm so tired of these scam companies getting ads approved by KZbin. This product would need to ignore the laws of thermodynamics in order to meet what it advertised. I've been in the hvac trade for 7 years and I see this stupid crap as well as that dumb mini swamp cooler in people's houses all the time and they are always pissed they bought them.

[@master2all]

Ur just mad cuz it's single handedly destroying the 5 billion $ HVAC industry and you lost ur job!!! 🫵😂

[@doughnutsfowler]

I saw something similar to the Alpha Heater at Aldi a week or two ago for $19.95. If I remember the claim it was pitched as personal heater for a workspace or something like that.

[@tjmyers7851]

Awesome research, and I like the comedy you added. Great job. And thank you for your honesty. You have helped thousands... including me

[@1996champs]

You repeated several times that the smaller heater was either 350 or 500 watts. Why not just test them? Surely you have a Kill-a-watt(R) or similar meter laying around to easily do so.

[@merlin2600]

I understand that he wanted to disprove the claims that it was more efficient than the theoretical wattage and he did just that. But knowing the actual wattage would have been very interesting. We KNOW that for heaters, there is no efficiency consideration. 100% of the energy is converted to heat.

[@user-kc1tf7zm3b]

@@merlin2600 This is not true. Reverse cycle air conditioning heat pumps can have a heating Coefficient Of Performance (COP) of nearly 6. Heat pumps are extremely common in Japan which have very muggy summers and cold winters. Radiant heaters are for poor mugs! Luckily, Technology Connections made a far more serious video on heating. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bXuYY6B6n7-tqtE

[@Pentti_Hilkuri]

@@user-kc1tf7zm3b Why is it not true? A resistive heater is always 100% efficient.

[@user-kc1tf7zm3b]

@@Pentti_Hilkuri Again, watch this American perspective on heat pumps. Heat pumps are by far and away the most efficient and rational heading choice compared to legacy 20th century methods. For the most part, only a moron would ignore a heat pump when considering heating a home that he/she owns. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bXuYY6B6n7-tqtE

[@user-kc1tf7zm3b]

@@Pentti_Hilkuri The same KZbin host discusses radiant heaters; he describes them as ‘expensive’ to operate. As they bloody well are. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jF7Nnoagrpd0qK8

[@paulrichards3342]

Brilliant! Absolutely BRILLIANT! Many, many thanks Krazy Ken - that's what we need more of ..... the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

[@mickeyfilmer5551]

I bought one of these units to use in my shed. It sits in a British 13amp socket on a stand I made specifically for this fan. It pulls 390 watts at 240 volts and is surprisingly good at keeping me warm whilst I work at my workbench, Infact I was so impressed, I bough another one for my wife to use when sewing, or reading etc, to save putting on the central heating- which uses 11kw of gas per hour. They are economical to run, and when the sun is shining the cost nothing as we have 10 solar panels on the roof. So they are not that bad- don't expect to heat the whole house with one though, and btw I got one after watching Big Clive's teardown and review.

[@mickeyfilmer5551]

Big Clive's review kzbin.info/www/bejne/qYHRfaGhaJqLqbs

[@datafilehunter1682]

Many years ago, when I worked as a security guard, I was assigned to watch over a library. They were using multiple space heaters as a temporary solution, while waiting for a part to be delivered for their furnace.

[@MacCrafter707]

The instant I see a checkout upsell, I walk away.

[@GlorifiedGremlin]

I have to admit, blaux knows how to design a good looking product. Even if it doesn't actually WORK very well lol

[@personalcheeses8073]

I think it is far from aesthetically pleasing

[@susannnie217]

Definitely listed as a personal space heater originally and when used for that purpose it's perfect. It is an older model that I bought. I got mine for five english pounds secondhand and apart from that strange smell it puts out, I love it.😁

[@joeweatlu5169]

Looks like when it comes to revenue YT turns a blind eye to fraudulent/scam ads.

[@SkylarsTerribleMemes]

just love how the landlord refused to give the tenants heat and the news blamed their deaths on the space heater

[@ЕкатеринаСеренкова]

Are they legally bound to do this? Are there legal standarts of medium room temperature in living space? Plus in some places like dorms heaters are direct violation of fire safety.

[@stitchfinger7678]

@@ЕкатеринаСеренкова I feel like it would be against code to not have heat installed anywhere it gets cold enough to freeze to death. RESEARCH EDIT: Even in places like California, a residence requires heat to be legally livable .

[@ЕкатеринаСеренкова]

@@stitchfinger7678 i met a ton of situation when living space had heating, but not enough for some. Preferred temperature may vary.

[@brendanmcavoy6639]

I actually just did a bunch of research on this lately an, in my neck of the woods at least, whether the landlord or tenant is to pay for the heat, the heating system provided (a necessary thing for apartments, no exceptions) MUST be able to heat the unit to at least 55°.

[@justd02ofus]

Ive been using those little heaters for three years now and they do work very well..

[@MrEditor6000]

How is it that law enforcement hasn't gotten hold of Blaux?

[@Tahngarthor]

Electric resistive heat is 100% efficient- all of the energy the heater pulls from the wall just gets dumped straight into the room- even the losses in the cord and fan motor, since that is "lost" as heat as well. Of course, electricity generation itself is NOT 100% efficient. In most circles, when we talk about a device's energy efficiency, we talk about how much waste heat they avoid generating. But when the whole point of the device is to heat a space, there is no waste heat. Bottom line, any space heater that says it's more efficicent than another one is straight up lying, as all electric resistive heaters are essentially equally efficient.

[@Crystal_Moon248]

I've been seeing ads of the Alpha heater. The ad says a Ex NASA engineer designed it.

[@graealex]

The fundamental problem of the AC wasn't that it is small and thus not technically feasible to have an actual AC. The fundamental problem was that there is no place for any extracted heat to go.

[@patrickeigenmann138]

And thus not technically feasible to cram into a small formfactor.......

[@graealex]

@@patrickeigenmann138 Of course it's feasible, doesn't even need to be a compressor. A TEC would easily fit. But you still have the issue of where to put the heat. Obviously dumping it into the room would negate any cooling effects. The usual size for mobile ACs is mainly due to the condenser and evaporator being at best efficiency at certain surface areas. But compressor-based heat pumps can be significantly shrinked if sacrificing efficiency isn't a problem.

[@garfieldsmith332]

I always like these heating and cooling claim measured in square feet. A room is 3 dimensional and thus the air in it is measured in cubic feet. Perhaps that is how they can get away with some claims as they never say head/cool a room of say 800 cubic feet (10 by 10 by 8).

[@TheKnobCalledTone.]

It's a bit expensive for what it is, but I'd have that Blaux heater because it actually looks pretty nice and does what it's supposed to.

[@MaccGaz]

I saw an ad for this and it looked so clearly a scam... the fact that the ad took over 2 minutes to name the product and then included some crazy claims meant it was just too obvious. Out of interest I came here to see how much of a scam it was - thanks for the video :)

[@scottfitzpatrick1939]

I just saw an infomercial selling this saying this small wall plug heater could heat a 300 sq ft room from 32 to 80 degrees in 30 seconds. Omg i nearly spit out my drink. Thank you for trashing this complete bs device.

[@AWriterWandering]

I love how the Alpha heater left the body of a German/French plug on the back so that the whole thing just leans awkwardly off the outlet.

[@RB-qg1qx]

For the advertised output you may have to run the heater using their free energy machine...available at an extra cost.

[@raven4k998]

can that actually work or is that a scam to?🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@nickcoppard5335]

My free energy machine is brilliant , it works great until the neighbours get home and unplug it

[@TheGlitchyMario]

Wow, new background in the intro. That’s cool. I can’t wait to see this.

[@ComputerClan]

Yeah! And that’s a NeXTcube motherboard. Not easy to come by, so I think it’s special. ❤️

[@TheGlitchyMario]

@@ComputerClan Yea! It looks great!

[@tdav225]

Great video! Too bad there will be many that waste their money.

[@blazerocker1734]

Started getting KZbin ads for the Alpha Heater, just under a different name. They were structured and sounded a lot like those ads for the Chillwell. Since I saw your vid on the Chillwell I came here to see if you reviewed this suspected-POS and sure enough. Thanks for doing the work and saving us from wasting our money on this thing. Great video as usual. 🙂

[@eibaby5678]

I really appreciate your diligence in setting us straight on these scams. Thanks!

[@DrekiTech]

I would like to see them put on a watt meter, or killawatt device to see actual power consumption. Also maybe a comparison to the $20 fan heater from the hardware store. At least my $20 one had anti-tip circuit breaker so if it fell forward it would turn off.

[@harpalchauhan428]

one of the best safety warnings EVER 👏👏👏

[@helengillespie143]

Thank you for reviewing the AlphaHeat portable heater. I was strongly considering buying one. Not now! So many fake reviews posted, but after seeing Krazy Ken’s, I trust this guy’s opinion.

[@ComputerClan]

Thanks for watching! And to reiterate, the Blaux heater in this episode actually isn't that bad. I have used it before for temporary settings and it works great. But yeah… that Alpha Heater is CRAP.

[@Bella-vt7ol]

Totally agree with the scam but I would love to see…it would be helpful to show difference in heating costs…meaning running the space heater to get to and stay at desired temp vs using home’s existing a/c system…thats been one of my arguments against these space heaters…the electricity used is more than if you just bumped up home thermostat…thats my belief

[@endymallorn]

The funny thing is that because it's now cold and dry where I am, I actually debated on picking up one of the Blaux units for a bit before looking and finding that my local Walmart has a much better humidifier for much cheaper.

[@cobaltblue1975]

The funny thing about "Alpha Heater" is if they were just honest about its capabilities, positioned it as a device to heat small areas like cubicles, and charged an appropriate price; they would have been alright.

[@damianeadie510]

The original manufacturers probably don't claim more than that. The scam is that marketing scumbags buy these cheap, make a load of fancy adverts with extraordinary claims which aren't policed by KZbin and then send desperate and gullible people off to pay many many times more than they are really worth. They pay young naive people to make these videos probably not realising its a scam... I located one company and read reviews from ex employees who said the owners were damanding and unsupportive and always off on vacations! Just keep reporting to KZbin as a scam and post something like this: "This is a well known scam and the advert is entirely fake, fake names, fake backstory. The claims made for the product are entirely false and scientifically impossible. The product cannot physically do what is claimed - stop letting scammers run adverts on KZbin".

[@thefishwillbearmed7391]

Agreed. It's rubbish as a room heater and the fan noise is like a plane landing but it would be ok for heating a small space like working at your desk for example, where you are near the airflow. If you have earplugs in as well! 😂

[@psyseraphim]

I have a question. Is it possible the discrepancy between 350w and 500w is dependent on whether you are using US 120 Volt or Australia/UK 220/240 volt?

[@TravelingSolo]

I used one of these (the one without a stand) in a campervan and it actually did work, albeit in a small space. The bed area, with the curtain closed, was about 100cf. I would close the curtain and let it run for a while before going to bed, and it was surprisingly comfortable. I would also use it to take the chill off inside the van in the morning.