How to migrate to a NEW Synology NAS (4 ways)

[@toronado455]

Good point about updating the DHCP reservation with the new MAC address for the new unit. I probably would have overlooked that and got stuck until I figured it out LOL. Great video.

[@mar4kl]

Great video, especially showing how to use Migration Assistant. I actually found your channel when looking for the best way to move a client from an old QNAP NAS to a new Synology NAS, and I followed a video about using HyperBackup to do it. It wasn't NASty. (Sorry, couldn't resist!🤣)

[@okidave]

The first scenario you mentioned is what I had to do. My DS920+ died after running continuously since I purchased it at launch, so just under 4 years. At first, I thought it was the power supply, but the unit was completely dead. I purchased a replacement DS923+ and it was great how seamless the migration process was. I just inserted my drives into the bays and booted it up. It asked if I wanted to keep my settings. After that and a reboot, I was able to login like nothing happened. For a while I was so worried about recovering my data. This time I will be purchasing the extended warranty.

[@tjrsasea]

I am actually thinking about upgrading and how to migrate data, and here it is!!

[@waisinglee1509]

Wow...the first two minutes answered my question. I am going to move to a new Synology because mine (from 2012?) is no longer supported by the software. Thank you!!!

[@joshdepaz1]

Finally the video I needed! From the topic expert I trust! Thank you!

[@markynio]

I never imagined I could just swap my drives to the new one. Thank you. I'm upgrading from 2-drive NAS to 4-drive this year.

[@DaystromDataConcepts]

personally, anyone with any quantity of data to transfer and is thinking of using Hyper Backup. I'd suggest using USB Copy instead as Hyper backup is incredibly slow. I've run Hyper Backups to external HDD's and seen as slow as 6Mb/sec transfer rates. USB Copy, on the other hand, was used to restore some 7Tb onto my new NAS and that was transferring at over 200Mb/sec from a fast WD Elements 14Tb external drive.

[@raycollington4310]

Just what we needed here Will. Thank you.

[@bw00d21]

Ironic. My new DS224+ is getting delivered today! Perfect timing for this video!

[@UpToTheSkyAgain]

Migration assistant supports migrating from btrfs HD (1st nas) to btrfs SSD (2nd nas) ? Harddrive migration : does the order or the place of the disks in the nas matters ? Do we have to keep the same order in the new nas ?

[@JeffGiacomi]

Can I transfer drives from a DS1812+ running DSM 6.2.4 to the newest DS1821+/23XS? Will those new systems recognize the drives given they are running 6.2.4 and not 7?

[@CapsLock33]

Thanks always SpaceRex!

[@GregGomes-f5t]

Really cool video. When using the Migration Assistant, when the data has been synced, does it essentially exist on both the old NAS and the new NAS, or is it essentially moved so it's only on the new destination NAS?

[@CedroCron]

Fantastic Video Will, thank you!

[@gabrielvarga3812]

Hello I have a Synology rs720+ and purchased a RS1221+. I did a HDD migration but in middle of the process a rs1221+ started beeping. After a 10 min instalation a message appeard something went wrong. I have a same DS version instaled on both NAS. What can be a problem?

[@mmdday]

how does migration assistant handle snapshot replication? Does it preserve snapshots? If you have replication set up (either as target or source), does it keep all of the linkages to the other machine?

[@mastermandarin]

Thanks for the information! I have a Synology 2-Bay DiskStation DS220j and am considering upgrading to Synology 2-Bay DiskStation DS223j. The 220j DSM is the 6. Will there be any problem doing the drive switch going from a DSM 6 to DSM 7? Cheers!

[@allenbuyck7957]

I erroneously set up my NAS a while ago with EXT4 format and now I find out that is limiting my options for things like Active backup for business (Needs BTRFS). I currently use Hyperbackup through Tailscale to back up my NAS to an offsite location. Can I simply "start over" with my NAS to set it up with BTRFS?? What is best way to go about that?

[@TheNaturalEnquirer]

I have disks in a EXT4 volume that I want to move to new NAS but need to convert to BTRFS. So do I move the drives to the new NAS as is? Then convert the volume to BTRFS on the new NAS and then restore with Hyperbackup?

[@ajv_2089]

I think you briefly mentioned this but wanted to confirm. Does this mean Synology Photos will lose all faces data and albums and such? Using hard drive migration

[@IntoxicatedVortex]

A few notes… a) try be certain your RAID/SHR is in good health when doing an HDD migration (failing to put all drives in and/or putting one in backwards in the bracket happens more often than you think) and the last thing you want is your new NAS not to find at least your minimum number of drives at boot as recovering from that, or just immediately needing to rebuild a RAID/SHR set, can be really painful b) I have had HDD migrations start straight up (like it was still the old NAS) when going to the same model NAS (like with a service replacement) - for this to happen be certain you are running the latest version of DSM possible on both NAS so you should dry run your new NAS with a spare drive to do that update - I received a service replacement with DSM6.2 on it and it refuse to migrate in total c) I don't know about anyone else but I like to be giving my new drives a bit of a workout before committing all of my data to them - when going to new drives I typically take the manual route, at least initially, to be sure everything will work out first and then will maybe take another migration route as you don't want to find out something is awry in the middle of a migration d) be mindful of licenses, such as camera or MailPlus, and be ready to transition them manually if they don't come over on their own.

[@jeremyyounger5442]

Do the HDD's need to go back in order or can they go into any slot and it doesn't matter?

[@IntoxicatedVortex]

@jeremyyounger5442 Functionally it doesn't matter but one should always endeavour to keep them in order as there might always be that rare circumstance where it actually does matter and you happen to fall in to that.

[@Manco654]

If I’m going the „Rip and rebuild“ route, what’s the best way to copy over a few terabytes of data? 🤔

[@tkoop]

As always, a great video! But I have a question. If I want to switch to full volume encryption on the new device (this was not the case on the old device), is it possible to use the migration assistant in this case?

[@DavidDowns61]

Not sure why I can’t find any video showing clear communication on moving from a Drobo DAS to a Synology NAS. It seems like that’s a common occurrence. Can I use my 5 Drobo DAS 8TB Barracuda drives with the Synology NAS? I’ve read yes….and no. How do I actually get my 12 TB transferred over without causing a delay in my work streams? How long should I expect it to take? If I buy new drives, can I back up my data from the NAS to my old Drobo in an offsite location?

[@1nZaneR]

5:04 - "at least" - doesn't work for me at the moment. I have an old DS418play with 4x8tb HDDs and want to use Migration Assistant on my new ds923+ with also 4x8tb HDDs. Using SHR volume on the old system I get the error that the volume on my ds923+ is too small and I need to make it about 1tb larger - which is not possible. Apparently it is also not possible to shrink the volume on my DS418play to make it fit. So I'm a bit mad about this and not sure how to proceed.

[@svause]

Great video! I was thinking of a 5th option: SSH + rsync across the network..... Thoughts?

[@Zeon32o]

Hello, another great video. Ive learned lots from watching your videos on KZbin. Have just set up Synology photos on my DS423+ which has 6GB of Synology ram. When I was transferring the photos and videos from my Mac, I've got them all backed up from iCloud I kept hitting a problem where my Mac mini would run out of ram and safari would have to close then reload stopping the process. After checking Activity monitor it was the Safari web page linked to synology that was consuming all the ram. I have a M1 Mac mini with 16GB of ram, eventually I had to close safari reboot my Mac and copy them over in lesser amount before the same thing happened again. Any thoughts.

[@jimmybondy1140]

Super good video again ... it’s really fun now because you take your time to talk! And explain everything perfectly again !! Question to the expert: I had to remove a 12 TB from my NAS. It rattled .. now I have formatted it via adapter and connected it to the MAC. You can’t hear anything now ... Is there a program that can test a hard drive for reliability? And can you bring something to VPN of the NAS? ZB Nord VPN? Thank you

[@aaronfisher7159]

Does it work if you're using a RAID 1 on a 2 bay NAS and then going to a 4-5 bay NAS while changing the RAID to a 5 or 6?

[@jornvanderwal7868]

Hi Will, great. But why didn't you add a restore from a Active Backup for Business for DSM back-up?

[@LNOHMS]

if you do the disk migration. Make sure the Back UP configuration! followed instructions but configuration did not transfer. have to reset up user/groups and some apps like mail and photos. wish I had just done the migration assistant. (also thanks Will for your videos. they are so helpful!)

[@emydiaz2466]

Exactly! That's one thing that was missed in this video!

[@MDegenerate]

Will Docker images and configurations be migrated with HDD migration? I am planning to move 2 drives directly from a DS220+ to a DS920+

[@fatmike20000]

HI, I would like to ask. Is it possible to migrate two synology into one. I have one 2Bay and one 4Bay NAS, i plan to install new NAS with 8Bay. Can I use HDD mirgation method to put all hdd into new 8Bay NAS? Thanks for your help!

[@allenbuyck7957]

does migration assistant also copy over the RAID set up or do I have to redo that on the new NAS?

[@georgesalco]

Hello, great video. One question, I'm going to replace a disk to expand storage, and I wanted to ask if it's a good time to acquire the new Synology disk (possible compatibility issues with other brands in the future) or is it better to install a 12 or 16TB Ironwolf Pro or Exos disk? DS920+. Thanks for everything!

[@galle93]

so doing a hard drive migration from a 423+ to an older 418 made massive issues. it set the volume to read only and im not sure if converting it to read/write destroys data...

[@GeneCutrone]

I canceled the Migration Wizard, and now I want to migrate again. But it says the source server is currently migrating, which it's not. I checked the Task Scheduler on the source server, and there's nothing running. I'm not sure what to do.

[@robertleem5643]

If I watched this correctly, I bought a 920+ a year ago, if in 2 years I bought the newer model and just put all my drives into the new nas, will all my DSM settings, backups, folder structures and jellyfin apps be present including my daily and nightly tasks

[@WebIT-kv1le]

Thanks for your videos; I learned so much from them. Would you mind sharing some guidance on how to install nextcloud via portainer on Synology NAS? Existing tutorials on the internet seem to work for people on Linux distros, but on Synology, it seems to be less easy. For example, I always stuck on creating an admin user with a "Failed connect to database" error, like many other synology users, with no clue how to resolve it

[@Leba2006]

What about migrating from a Netgear NAS to a new Synology DS224+? Which is the best option I have? Thank you

[@Grue_ni]

Hello! I have a DS218 Play with 2x 18TB HDD Raid1 (no Btrfs) and a upcomming DS1821+ wich i want to migrate to. I als got three 10TB HDD here wich i could make a Btrfs SHR Raid wich would be the required 18TB space i need on the new NAS. Any suggestions wich way i should i go for migration? I think i will setup a new volume on my new NAS with Btrfs SHR1 and maualy set up the Nas like it was my first one, create the same folders like on the old one and beam the Data over folder for folder, wish there would be a better way...

[@christophmeyer9697]

Thank you for this good video! Is there a way to transfer photos data to a new/other Synology without losing the face-recognition data and other manually added infos?

[@DUAG96]

Which method would you suggest if wanting to move from RAID 1 on the old NAS to RAID 5 on the new NAS?

[@pgotze]

How it would be done, if i migrate from 1-Volume NAS and plan to split to 2-Volume NAS? Lets say i want SSD Volume for application / packages like Directory Services, Mail Server Containers and HDD Volume for big data like Homes, videos, photos, Active backup ? Is it even good idea to split this way?

[@FaithfullyMaddy]

@spacerex does it also move users and folderstructuur with the migration assistant?

[@SpaceRexWill]

yes

[@jrmbtr]

Will Migration Assistant keep tools like Active Backup for Microsoft 365 seamlessly working after it completes?

[@PeterHonig.]

Excellent video. Question, what happens regarding the assigned IP address of the old and new NAS on the same network? Do both units have the same address, which would be a problem.

[@BoraHorzaGobuchul]

That would depend on how the nas is getting the address. DHCP on router with our without static ip via MAC address, or otherwise

[@konstantinos6192]

Can I use the drives of an old Western Digital My book 2 Ultra to a new Synology directly?

[@FieldingSmith]

Know this is not the best way to get it done, but I’m thinking about moving from a 918+ with 4x 12tb ironwolfs to a 6bay, but also ext4 > btrfs… and don’t have enough external HDs for my 22tb of data. My thoughts are to back up the most important things, start with new 2x 12tb in new NAS in SHR, pull over what I can fit, and the remove one drive at a time (delete transferred items and rebuild after each), and the add to new unit and expand the volume… overly complicated, but wouldn’t have to buy a complete new set of drives. Would that work? Is there a better way?

[@BoraHorzaGobuchul]

This sounds terribly unsafe and long

[@kojakdurham]

Would it make more sense to use Migration Assistant to do it if the source NAS is still operational?

[@sol756db]

How about the users and their home directories? Which method?

[@BostonBeamer]

How about a migration from Terramaster to a Synology. Took the dive and wanted to save money and went with Terramaster and after a month bought a Synology. Now trying to find best way to move data in less than 12 years or so :)

[@DM-yp5pc]

Would like to see you test this with ABB and the ABB agent?

[@jongrall]

Great video! What about switching from BTRFS on an older 1517+ to a newer larger unit with BTRFS with full volume encryption? Is there a way to encrypt the volume in place on the new unit, or do I have to create a fresh encrypted volume and migrate using HyperBackup?

[@SpaceRexWill]

hyperbackup would allow this to work!

[@jongrall]

@@SpaceRexWill bummer I’d have to reconfigure all my packages then…

[@TravisPickle]

so can the dx517 vols be transferred migrated into the 923+ for example

[@rmm2138]

What options works if you want to move from folder encryption to volume encryption?

[@christerwiberg1]

Are there any rough idea about how long it’s ok to have a NAS before you change? My DS918 is about 5 years and is ok, I even have about 7TB spare (4x8 TB WD Red). Ok for me with the performance and I have 3-2-1 backup (external on Amazon Glacier), my rough plan is to run it for maybe 2-3 more years as long as it’s working fine. Does that sound reasonable? When drives are 7-8 years, I guess it’s time to change.

[@BoraHorzaGobuchul]

If you're basing your decision on drive age, why not just swap drives for newer ones?

[@christerwiberg1]

@@BoraHorzaGobuchul Maybe so, just that if it’s worth to replace drives only if the NAS is 7-8 years old? Was just thinking if there are any rules of thumb when you should replace the whole unit? I understand that it’s just that the risk is increasing with age, and I see that Backblaze keep quite old drives, haven’t seen any statistics about the rest of the server though.

[@BoraHorzaGobuchul]

@@christerwiberg1 You replace the drives if they fail or have bad smart, or you need larger capacity. You replace the unit if it dies, or ceases to satisfy your requirements, as in not supporting new applications you definitely need, not having enough drive bays, or performance. In any case I suggest you make a backup e.g. to an external drive prior to that (you should have it anyhow if you value your data). Alternatively, if you have extra cash and want to have fun, you can get new unit/drives even if you don't really need them. Whatever floats your boat.

[@Travispater101]

This is a great video, thank you, Completly die one day you say? yup 920+ died yesterday.. Harddrive migration is exaclty what i needed to know, new 923+ unit is only arriving next week, i hope its goes as smooth as your video this hahaha. Does this bring back all firewall, DNS settings? Webdave settings? Everything? (DHCP need to be set again)

[@ceric9516]

thank you so much

[@kevinhughes9801]

Useful stuff thanks. What if you had a nas that died using shr raid and moved drives to nas that doesn’t do shr?

[@SpaceRexWill]

So as far as I know all of the XS units will allow you to import an SHR volume

[@kevinhughes9801]

@@SpaceRexWill ok thanks for reply

[@DUMB10987]

what about moving photos only to a new nas to leave the old nas as an nvr

[@sol756db]

Attempting Migration Assistant for old DS with 4 drives and DSM 6.2 to new DS with 2 disks and SDM 7.2, I found out none of my models are supported at all. Maybe something to mention that only few models are supported?! VERY disappointing and makes this vid quite a waste imo.

[@nodaks]

Caveat on moving drives. If they are shr type and your new nas doesn't support shr this won't work.

[@SpaceRexWill]

I actually think it does work