Hey all! Just dropping in to say thanks for all your comments! Oh and also Earth is very very very definitely not flat. But I admit I appreciate the existence of flat earthers as they are proof of just how amazing and free human cognition really is.
@scumpuppies4 жыл бұрын
Do you have somewhere I can message you? Friends and I are building one and your flight was especially impressive; Would love to chat! Thanks
@nnoo3 жыл бұрын
yes it definitely looks like a sphere I can see it with my flat eyes.
@nro67393 жыл бұрын
How’d you guys get the balloon so high. Most i’ve seen fail around 100,000’
@pragueflatearthsociety95863 жыл бұрын
do one without the fish eye lens then. like why fish eye ? real eyes realize real lies
@glendamclachlan25373 жыл бұрын
Oh wow not one land piece to show us reality just ridiculous clouds and fish eye lense, go around 4:55 and see the so called globe become concave and bending in the oppisite direction. FAKE!!!!
@James-ub3zo6 жыл бұрын
i was hoping the Rocket would Launch just before the Balloon popped!
@NewTop-NT6 жыл бұрын
The fisheye lens Master!! Little prince Planet!!
@DarkStar6667 жыл бұрын
2:51 when the horizon is dead center (143,088 ft indicted) is when you can see the most accurate view of the horizon. Why? Fish-Eye lens do not BEND straight-lines passing through the center of the lens (they do compress them, but it doesn't BEND them).
@feth77476 жыл бұрын
Exactly!!!, 143,000 ft and the center of the horizon at eye level, FLAT EARTH. Gyros proves aswell tat te earth doesn't move.
@davidcary33156 жыл бұрын
It's curved, that's his point FETH. It's not flat.
@WootTootZoot6 жыл бұрын
Spelling isn't your best skill is it ? Neither is your understanding of reality.
@charliemartin76946 жыл бұрын
Dark Star Lol did you pass geometry in high school
@charliemartin76946 жыл бұрын
Dark Star Fool
@FlyingWildAZ Жыл бұрын
Well done! You guys are awesome, love the enthusiasm!
@skadi33096 жыл бұрын
ITS WOBBLING THATS WHY WE FEEL HIGH
@fromthesky10506 жыл бұрын
When a high altitude balloon is at its max altitude say, 121,000 feet, how far are we seeing roughly? Anyone?
@spy_balloon Жыл бұрын
Amazing weather balloon
@peterinpensacola4 жыл бұрын
Great job guys and ladies! Excellent video editing. And music! (so dramatic). I'm a retired engineer in FL planning my first HAB launch. Can you answer a couple questions? 1. Did you include the waterproof housing with the GoPro outside the cooler for thermal protection? 2. Was the GoPro's (filming the cooler) internal battery enough or did you have a battery pack inside the cooler? 3. How did you track altitude that high? Did you have a GPS tracker inside the cooler that works that high or another instrument? Thanks! PS: Bummer about the failed rocket launch, but the video of it slipping off is priceless!
@jjeairborne84282 жыл бұрын
Damn fish eye, we will never know how the earth really looks like from that altitude until someone sends up a different type of camera.
@awatt Жыл бұрын
The lens is irrelevant. Globe confirmed 💯🌎
@nunya_bizniz8 ай бұрын
It's been done many times. Videos on KZbin.
@stephenhopps910 Жыл бұрын
Well done guys
@pawarmihir11093 жыл бұрын
Hello sir This project is amazing Can I also make this? Which instruments you use for communicating with it? Hope for your Favorable reply.
@anthonybear55193 жыл бұрын
Why do you always use a GoPro can't you use a regular lens
@muthukumaranrajarajan95523 жыл бұрын
Wow! This payload is superb with space x
@mikesmith21756 жыл бұрын
I gotta tell ya. This is one of the coolest videos I have watched. Very good gang. What was the total cost of the flight?
@muthukumaranrajarajan95523 жыл бұрын
Can u make An another video of how u made that payload pls
@gerard7pl10 жыл бұрын
Totally awesome!
@jcims6 жыл бұрын
I know this is old but great job and great video!!!!
@manuelfernandez-gx4kk2 жыл бұрын
A que altura se ve la tierra rotar ?
@FrancisDrake-q3j10 ай бұрын
Very cool! Loved the addition of the radar reflector. Did the FAA require that?
@knightingalesaid5 жыл бұрын
The music was awesome for this. Beautiful view. Thanks for sharing.
@mobilecommunity5486 жыл бұрын
Space x Launch Success
@Counselor774 жыл бұрын
I give this video 1,000,000,000 likes !
@muthukumaranrajarajan95523 жыл бұрын
Did it fall near u Or .......
@gfracerx9 жыл бұрын
Hello, I'd like to send a balloon up and was wondering what you used for the GPS. Thanks and Great Video!
@jdvidsofficial3 жыл бұрын
How do you get the altitude on the screen?
@alexm61883 жыл бұрын
Rewatching this! I wish the space selfie’s worked!
@Z1GMA127 жыл бұрын
0:38 There !! There's the curvature !!!
@TAZKEYS3 ай бұрын
Using a fisheye lens? Why? Wouldnt you want a clear accurate shot of earth?
@СлавянскийПуть-щ4н3 жыл бұрын
Gotta love the fisheye lens 😎
@houalef_akram3 жыл бұрын
there is a calculation to ignore the FishEye and get the exact curvature
@СлавянскийПуть-щ4н3 жыл бұрын
@@houalef_akram yeah, it's called "no curvature" 😁
@houalef_akram3 жыл бұрын
@@СлавянскийПуть-щ4н people Still think that the earth is flat , and the curvature is just for FishEye and Nasa Is Lying 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
@houalef_akram3 жыл бұрын
and If anyone Doesn't believe that the earth isn't flat , The only thing to convince him is to Take Him To space 😂
@СлавянскийПуть-щ4н3 жыл бұрын
@@houalef_akram I never said it was flat. I only said there is no curvature. And now I will sit back and watch your duality-based mind explode ... or implode 😊
@alinagandurska32856 жыл бұрын
Earth is even concave! 3:36, 3:41, 5:06, 7:33
@RAMBOWYIGIT4 жыл бұрын
Alina Gandurska :D:D
@AUGUSTINEMINH4 жыл бұрын
Underated video
@Nicky2206 жыл бұрын
I guess this is one of the most stabilised video i've seen till now.
@kitten_anakin4 жыл бұрын
3:05 burst at 143,500ft (43,738.8m) near stratopause.
@Mike-xt2ot5 жыл бұрын
The horizon appears straight as the cooler. Flat. Great work!!!
@jonmac39953 жыл бұрын
Even IF the Earth was a flat disc, you would still see curvature at the edges, try looking down on a plate from above, the edge is curved.
@diartnov11 ай бұрын
The landing is not shown. That´s bad.
@tjellis14795 жыл бұрын
not many average lenses can span the horizon....curves are inherent to the design. One eye kinda thing while we have 2 eyeballs to increase periphery etc.
@coconut66806 жыл бұрын
Love the video but think a great addition for you guys to get a better view is hook up more cameras. One strait while another faces 90 degrees down to give more depth to the video. Keep up the great work. Much love from Hawaii. Aloha
@calumbrooknicolson5 жыл бұрын
Could I use this for a video?
@FullOfGuides3 жыл бұрын
Why are these fisheye lenses even built? I want a rational explanation as to why they exist and why are they only a product of GoPros!?!? Like I've never seen a fisheye lens on a cell phone or DSLR camera. They are distorting a very otherwise beautiful sight of nature. You can't even make a proper screenshot to use as a wallpaper because of the distorted image. :( Please next time you send balloons set your GoPro to record on LINEAR mode instead of WIDE mode. Thanks
@bradleypool41876 жыл бұрын
Beautiful
@justindeloach67326 жыл бұрын
You can see stars when the camera looks up at the sky the second time
@brandonallen59307 жыл бұрын
Can someone tell me What is the max altitude a baloon like this can go?? How close to actual space can a baloon reach ???
@juggjuan48697 жыл бұрын
Brandon Allen probably until it hits the firmament
@brandonallen59306 жыл бұрын
big yacht there is no firminent. In the sky. No solid dome.
@tntnikol89949 жыл бұрын
Hello, Did you use a self contained ballon for this experiment? If yes, may I ask where did you buy it from? Thank you
@pabsunn9 жыл бұрын
+Tnt Nikol We used a massive latex balloon and it was purchased from amazon!
@cwalberg81428 жыл бұрын
+Pablo Corredor May I ask the exact model of the one you used? (link preferably) Thank you in advance, I'm starting a club in conjunction with my Chemistry class to try this concept too.
@Nicky2206 жыл бұрын
Where are all the satellites and spacejunk?
@100mpgus6 жыл бұрын
Nicolae Cionescu much much higher than that balloon can go
@matthewokeefe82158 жыл бұрын
How did you guys keep the cameras from freezing?
@pabsunn7 жыл бұрын
They actually did freeze on the way back down which is why we don't have footage of the landing.
@clanrobertrose81992 жыл бұрын
And why no stars in back ground 🤔?
@polsaez48898 жыл бұрын
Amazing video, Next time you shoud use a model rocket and launch it when the balloon reaches its apogee. That would be AWESOME.
@pabsunn7 жыл бұрын
The rocket was actually wired up to launch at our command, and on the original video we can hear the relay activating the igniter. Unfortunately, the ignition failed due to lack of oxygen at altitude.
@aguasanta7 жыл бұрын
Are you planning to try it again? Would be amazing to see it with the rocket working and a better camera
@SteveSteeleSoundSymphony7 жыл бұрын
Pablo Corredor Not sure what kind of propellant you’re using but you could add oxygen for the ignition and for the motor to continue working. However it still wouldn’t go far because that size rocket would run out of fuel very quickly having to expend all of that oxygen to keep the combustion going.
@ferky1236 жыл бұрын
Pablo Corredor Warped Perception made his model rocket ignite in a vacuum tube by plugging the rocket and making the igniter hotter than usual. Cody's Lab has an episode where he talks about it. kzbin.info/www/bejne/famlg4SOraeFn8U
@mikesmith21756 жыл бұрын
Pablo Corredor that's a good point. Do you think Estes rocket folks could help solve the problem?
@CptMikeTango16 жыл бұрын
Was the rocket not supposed to be launched?
@pabsunn4 жыл бұрын
We knew lack of oxygen to spark the igniter might've been an issue so we tried launching it at 40k feet. But apparently there was already not enough oxygen :/
@enriquethethird72539 жыл бұрын
How to make the payload waterproof?
@masterglitch06 жыл бұрын
FLEX SEAL
@ekulenwaiku46546 жыл бұрын
Put away any bias...this footage shows the earth as a flat plane -observe as camera ascends. No curvature on the landscape as expected. Fisheye lens, field of view and perspective presents a false distortion. And even with the distortion, no globe curvature is presented. The circular portion of the landscape revealed is due to the circular nature of the sun's beam (as a spot light) and closeness to the balloon. Lunch your next balloon during equinox, in the time of a new/full moon by morning or evening when the sun is not close to being directly overhead and it would be something different with a somewhat elongated landscape, and we may just spot the proximity and size of the two bodies to the landscape.
@masterglitch06 жыл бұрын
"put away any bias" immediately brings in his bias comment. The problem with a fish eye lens is that you cant tell if a body is curved or flat... its just to record as much area as possible. You say the lens creates a distortion yet you and other people on here are saying "thanks for proving the earth is flat". well if you telling me that the fish eye lens is distorted then it cant prove if the surface is curved or flat, your countering your own argument. Also i just looked it up and here is a video of a fish eye lens compared to a normal lens of a gopro. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pXiwcpeipaxprKM If you look at 1:48:38 in the video, you can clearly see a curve in the non fish eye lens. Lets say the sun was a spotlight though, and I dont know if thats how you get your heat in the flat earth theory but if a balloon reached as close as you claim it does in both this video and the video you linked, im pretty sure the Styrofoam would turn color indicating how hot it is or the balloon would have popped due the the heat increasing pressure in the balloon. Not to mention where does the energy for this spotlight sun come from?
@ekulenwaiku46546 жыл бұрын
Solemn Solitude I don't say the earth is flat because of You Tube videos. I know without a doubt that the earth's plane we're standing on is flat and so massive that no one can pick out a shape of it. Science seems not to be able to reconcile this flat plane reality and the workings of the sun and moon, hence, the erroneous globe postulation. Hypothetically, if the earth's flat plane had a curve glass firmament over it, light would appear curved in somewhat respect from above. However, the portion from every high altitude balloon footage isn't a representation of the size of the earth...how much more a globe, otherwise earth would just be a size of my city...just distortion. Speaking of the sun's heat. You are in great error if you think the earth is purely a physical place and that you can unravel the mysteries of all its workings by logical observations and deductions, aka Science. The earth is a spiritual place as well, and there are things at work you cannot see. The Book of Enoch details with reconcilable reason, the full workings of the sun and moon over the earth and how the 12 gates (6 tracks) that the sun travels through from east to west have windows that open up at their stated seasons for heat...(see chapter 74:8). I know many people today do not believe in God but some things are true whether you believe or not. By geometry, if you can see the curve above at such an altitude and conclude that the earth is a globe, you should be able to see a corresponding curvature say...standing on a mountain top and peering across the landscape or in a flight across the Atlantic ocean with such extent of the horizon but you never do. By science, your curvature claim cannot stand.
@masterglitch05 жыл бұрын
@@ekulenwaiku4654 As I do respect what you believe, I have to disagree with what you are stating. I do believe in god but you have to realize that there can be human error or that humans fully didn't understand. When you reference chapter 74:8, I do not see how that relates to our subject, maybe you can make that more clear to me? And with the suns heat, lets say this is a physical and spiritual world, you do understand that things can still get hot... heat has nothing really to do with the spiritual world, I know for a fact that if you heat up Styrofoam that it discolors and melts. The main reason why you don't see the curve from a mountain is because you in a mountain range, its hard to see because of the terrain, not to mention that your only around 3000 feet to 4000 feet above sea level, and when you look out a airplane window is because you still only 35,000 to 40,000 feet up in the sky, while a this particular weather balloon went somewhere between 120,000 and 140,000 feet into the atmosphere (more likely on the lower end). Another point to mention is that its much easier to see the horizon because there are less particles in the upper atmosphere than there is closer down to earth, less haze and smog. I look forward to your comment
@masterglitch05 жыл бұрын
hey i saw the notification that you answered me yet i cannot see the comment
@muthukumaranrajarajan95523 жыл бұрын
Space x separation too!wow
@SantossKazainis7 жыл бұрын
0:24 see the curvature
@juggjuan48697 жыл бұрын
Santoss Kazainis it's fish eyed
@MarkyB16 жыл бұрын
Santoss Kazainis I saw it alright 0.27 seconds and it looked like that car on the right would have rolled right down it..good job the handbrake was on or those people would have been walking home.
@strategicthinker88996 жыл бұрын
Extremely high. Do you happen to have a white paper or specs on your balloon? Rockoons ftw!
@kylesundell15544 жыл бұрын
Should of had the spacex rocket be a lightweight but powerfull model rocket which ignited right when the balloon pops,go even higher.
@skynetcybersystem3tech Жыл бұрын
👍super.
@giannacarlson5196 жыл бұрын
If the earth is spinning at nearly 1000 mph why don't we see that?
@Teh_Random_Canadian3 жыл бұрын
If you are in a bus going 60Mph and you jump, will you suddenly be going 0Mph and slam into the back of the bus?
@Teh_Random_Canadian3 жыл бұрын
@CrewPostor it would be like being hit by a bus. Luckily physics exist.
@jonmac39953 жыл бұрын
The Earth isn't spinning at 1000 MPH, it's rotating very slowly at 1 revolution in 24 Hours
@natoshawashington55315 жыл бұрын
I see the sun but i dont see the moon
@AmyCCloverlanez6 жыл бұрын
wish the music wasnt there, be cool to hear n see raw footage, but this is very cool nontheless. thank u !!!
@sixtyfivewatts656 жыл бұрын
Fish eye
@trillrifaxegrindor44116 жыл бұрын
look at the rocket,is it curved or straight? if the rocket is straight(which it is)and the globe is curved(which it is)this is undisputable proof the globe is a globe,period. a fish eye lense isnt an omni-powerful thing that can change individual items perspective and yet leave other items unchanged,it just doesn't fucking work like that guy.
@maximus67466 жыл бұрын
Doughnut Shaped
@pramodpandit2366 жыл бұрын
U guys are hired for spaceX
@Mirandorl6 жыл бұрын
Aw I thought you were gonna properly launch the little rocket
@pabsunn4 жыл бұрын
So did we! Hahah we tried to
@saadmirza27278 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure this altitude is accurate.
@pabsunn7 жыл бұрын
To be honest, we're not entirely sure either. We had 2 GPS altimeters and one pressure altimeter onboard. 1 of the GPS altimeters and the pressure altimeter showed ≈ 140k ft. The Other GPS altimeter showed 128k.
@DarkStar6667 жыл бұрын
Pablo Corredor - pressure altitude can vary quite a lot. I’d go with GPS. Also balloons don’t usually make it to 140k.
@kainestephens15726 жыл бұрын
Also no sound in space
@kainestephens15726 жыл бұрын
Like the video but how did u keep it from burning up in atmosphere
@masterglitch06 жыл бұрын
@@kainestephens1572 hey kaine, the reason why there is sound is because the balloon is still in atmosphere, the balloon cannot actually make it into space because the gas inside is exerting so much force that it eventually breaks the balloon due to the lack of pressure on the outside, which would make it impossible for the balloon to actually make it to space. Also the reason why it doesn't burn up in the atmosphere is because its only traveling 9.8 m/s, even slower than that due to drag which is most defiantly not fast enough to create heat from friction. meanwhile a spacecraft tends to reenter earths atmosphere at around 7800 m/s or around 17500 mph.
@kainestephens15726 жыл бұрын
@@masterglitch0 new thing you taught me thanks bro
@masterglitch06 жыл бұрын
@@kainestephens1572 no problem :)
@thomaskrainer94676 жыл бұрын
143.478 that`s awesome
@Ray_CZ8 жыл бұрын
very nice :)
@Totally_kanao5 ай бұрын
I saw a mettle pipe in space in this
@gloegchen17 жыл бұрын
Look 6;55 on the ground. You see, everything is round......fisheye
@Bernard-ly5br6 жыл бұрын
Convex concave! EARTHS FLAT
@Bernard-ly5br3 жыл бұрын
@CrewPostor must mean it’s round
@blartvoncrapp75916 жыл бұрын
Earth is a globe no doubt but it is stationary.
@CouvadeShark6 жыл бұрын
Thats what a lot of people thought back in the days of the ancient philosophers yeah :P Just like how everything was made up of fire, water, air and earth rather than atoms, and how other planets moved like ribbons in the sky rather than as ellipses. Not shitting you. Your way of thinking is literally ancient.
@idot33316 жыл бұрын
Ummm.... No?
@heniend86886 жыл бұрын
If the earth is stationary then why does our view of the stars change?
@russiacykablyat79084 жыл бұрын
Its not in space its near space
@hadleymanmusic4 жыл бұрын
Thats cool man we need to build a manned one make the balloon a n 8nflatable wing
@sranjesuper7 жыл бұрын
Lol at the Flat earth comments. If you want to see that the world is round, just look at 0:28 you can see the curvature even when they are not up in the sky . But you can also see it at 10 feet or higher . This just shows that a fish eye camera was used. I'm not sure why anybody would want to use a fish eye camera when trying to see the world as high as possible, when a wide angle lense would reveal much more of the earth at the same time as keeping the image accurate.
@papuchu6 жыл бұрын
liquid drops are spheric, bubbles are spheric baloons are spheric egg yolks are spheric *and all close celestial bodies we can see with some detail with telescopes are spheric.... hence the logic conclusion is to think earth is....*
@CptMikeTango16 жыл бұрын
...Oblate flatoïd
@jeanbraganet16 жыл бұрын
Pena que utilizaram câmera com sistema olho de peixe. Simplesmente Terra Plana.
@bob701z6 жыл бұрын
Fish-eye lens!
@Teh_Random_Canadian3 жыл бұрын
The amount of flat eathers in here is astonishing. No matter what argument is made or what evidence is shown they will not change their point of view. Its kinda alarming really.
@assaultmarine14646 жыл бұрын
Came for the video stayed to read insane flat earther comments
@Mirandorl6 жыл бұрын
What I don't get is why don't they just launch their own balloon? There's more than enough of them that believe it to donate money to a super cheap project.
@Mirandorl6 жыл бұрын
@Jim Harol I have seen a couple of videos where you have some guy ranting YOU CAN SEE THERES NO CURVE when there is a curve plain as day on the screen. I think the reason is they see the earth as a petri dish, so in their heads the curve is the edge of the petri dish and the land is the nutrient agar solution, if you will :) Theres no way to know whats going on in their heads really
@alexm618810 жыл бұрын
Go Gators!
@stevefox37636 жыл бұрын
lol, the highest my APM has been is 5000ft, need to swap wings for a baloon
@billybobs9520 Жыл бұрын
BOOOORRRIING
@PU2RNC7 жыл бұрын
parabens show de imagens top
@241Tsunami5 жыл бұрын
That small spacex rocket started to configure itself and as it separates from the booster package it began to rise like a Saturn rocket . That spacex rocket now is higher than the Hubble spacecraft and it is on a 99 year mission to Mars to retrieve alien saliva . The DNA results will be in my tomorrow and all Signals point to the probability that Pomeranians ruled the sky’s for eons . This can easily be proven by their aggressive stance and barks yet being so small . It’s obvious that when one looks upward the moon is very small , less that 12” across . Pomeranians are bigger so this proves they can dominate the solar clouds and act more dominant . Since it’s the survival of the fittest it proves they own the solar system as their fur takes up very little weight similar to the moon . Likewise the same goes for their powerful limbs as they run fast like the speed of the sun or the Saturn rockets . This is all true and can help explain how we came from apes 💉💰💊💔
@Emre_Kermen3 жыл бұрын
poor rocket :(
@الفقيرإلىالله-ص6س6 жыл бұрын
Camira. Gopro
@dannykoko46125 жыл бұрын
please share with the flat earth slap heads. since they can't be arsed doing any real research. this is a FANTASTIC start :)
@muthukumaranrajarajan95523 жыл бұрын
You' are too Lucky
@mauro66766 жыл бұрын
no !
@felizchan136 жыл бұрын
0:38 KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
@ishtvansvet72008 жыл бұрын
Attention ! The sky closed himtrails on this video.
@kr0n1ckron757 жыл бұрын
hit the dome.. mental !!
@kavinlgt42776 жыл бұрын
It's not space!!!!!!
@LukaszMotta6 жыл бұрын
fish eye lens & balloon explode on earth doom
@PD-ws7tn7 жыл бұрын
After this video, only idiots could think the Earth is flat. For smart people, this is good enough.
@harryandruschak28437 жыл бұрын
Not idiots, but trolls. I have yet to meet a flat-earther who was actually honest about their beliefs. Just trolls using the excuse of FE to spam and harass.
@irocprod107 жыл бұрын
troll
@Voicesinthecrowdd7 жыл бұрын
You’re joking right? This just shows how dumb people can be. This video is being recorded with fish eye lens. Notice how it curves not only the Earth at times, but the darkness of space. I see a flat Earth here.. still haven’t seen a real curvature in any video
@PD-ws7tn7 жыл бұрын
+Ryan Rogers - Fish eye lense doesn't mean anything to me. Moving Sun and other stars is one of many proofs of spherical Earth. Earth is flat only in our eyes.
@feth77477 жыл бұрын
Yes...only idiots coudcthink the earth is not flat
@dkny00727 жыл бұрын
clearly distortion of the lens, it's flat as fuck
@jonmac39953 жыл бұрын
Even IF the Earth was a flat disc, you would still see curvature at the edges, try looking down on a plate from above, the edge is curved.
@jojo3k48 жыл бұрын
More proof of flat earth, great video
@patrickhayes21628 жыл бұрын
what video were you watching?
@blazeshredz68177 жыл бұрын
Earth is round and joseph gay name
@Elguja7 жыл бұрын
3:36
@aguasanta7 жыл бұрын
7:47
@ggbros15207 жыл бұрын
the earth is so big it looks flat.
@irocprod107 жыл бұрын
lol
@santiagorestrepo63396 жыл бұрын
the blind ones cant see the distortion of the aspherical lenses in this gopro cameras....And even think further to catch the FLAT horizon when the camera points to cero degrees. Nice flat earth proof of the horizon. Thanks for beign an indirect Flat Earther!
@jonmac39953 жыл бұрын
Even IF the Earth was a flat disc, you would still see curvature at the edges, try looking down on a plate from above, the edge is curved.
@santiagorestrepo63393 жыл бұрын
@@jonmac3995 curvature can't be measured and has never been measured....the same goes for the pseudotheory that the material plane is spinning! You are still indoctrinated under the Jesuitic religion of Heliocentrism.