SpaceX's Falcon 9 Identity Problem

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Now back to Falcon 9. Astronomers recently discovered an artificial object heading for the Moon and believed it was an old rocket booster from SpaceX (spoiler alert: they were wrong). This video looks not just at how astronomers are able to predict the path of space junk with so much precision, but also why they were wrong about the identity of this object.
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Written and edited by Ewan Cunningham ( / ewan_cee )
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[@primalspace]

Who just watched the Starlink launch? One of the most accurate landings I've seen so far!

[@theshyguy3269]

Me!!! It's just crazy, never cease to amaze me

[@TickoGrey]

Would've seen it if it wasn't so cloudy where I am

[@mylongninjaplayz4823]

Me lol

[@qwertyeet]

100%

[@henanasrin9892]

Mee

[@Project-Air]

Nice animations on this one! :D

[@primalspace]

Thanks mate!

[@WMarshallFan]

:0, ProjectAir??? I didn't know you watch this channel??? (I should have expected it cause your really like rocket stuff)

[@rebel6809]

@@WMarshallFan he is rocket man

[@xXImposterredbg]

@@primalspace I Love Your Videos

[@4057hofft]

Yes animations. How do we know it's actually real

[@petersmythe6462]

"The Earth isn't a perfect sphere." Flat Earthers: "I knew it! Everyone else was wrong! My teacher, NASA, the psychiatrists, that guy on KZbin who laughed at me for my video about an artificial horizon..." *"By 43 kilometers"* Flat Earthers: "Wait... NOOOOOOOO!!!!!"

[@jacobwcrosby]

Nice video! However, the thumbnail description of "Mistaken for China" is incorrect... The Chinese object was mistaken for a SpaceX object... Just kind of bothered me. 😁

[@nirbhayatiwari5425]

Yes

[@thanhlongnguyen212]

Thank for point this out. I hate click bait, not gonna watch this video

[@StrawberryFlavouredCat]

@@thanhlongnguyen212 It’s not clickbait, just an error. A great video!

[@gumnaamaadmi007]

I was gearing up to hear a Chimborazo reference at 3:10 after you mentioned the Earth's non-perfect sphere shape. Almost relieved that it did not happen :)

[@ajayshukla6366]

I have been following u when u had just 110k subs...great to see you having almost 500k ....keep going u deserve more!

[@eterpaykugml4751]

Some people were up in arms about SpaceX polluting the moon with space junk when they thought it was a Falcon stage, but the criticisms all disappeared when they realized it was a Chinese hardware. Why is that?

[@737smartin]

Because many people resent wealthy Americans like Elon. Class warfare at it’s finest.

[@NightPhoenix.Y]

Cause it's Elon, my man been slipping like Jimmy.

[@liquidsnakex]

@@NightPhoenix.Y If you’re fine with one person’s rocket “polluting” the moon but not someone else, you’re the one slippin’, Jimmy

[@Darkdragonrexkiller]

Spacex is owned by Elon Musk and is trying to make a fully reusable rocket and he has high standards. China tho they drop rocket stages on houses cuz they don’t care

[@Boypogikami132]

It’s because it’s the Chinese, we aren’t surprised when they pollute everything with their rockets.

[@lucahasler906]

nice video! small mistake at 1:01 though, should probably be 932 *thousand* miles.

[@primalspace]

Oops 😂

[@lucahasler906]

@@primalspace hey as long as metric is correct... 😉

[@kennethkho7165]

@@lucahasler906 there's nothing at 1:01?

[@Isaac-zy5do]

Probably edited out in youtube studio

[@Luke..luke..luke..]

I get a little jitter each time I see you upload. Love it!

[@dranfall8520]

I love your videos ! keep going !

[@sureshnishtala2887]

Loved that animations and the explanation...thank you :)

[@gandalfgreyhame3425]

OK, so what did happen to that Falcon 9 booster? Have they found it yet?

[@vernepavreal7296]

I hope that soon a seismometer can be again placed on the moon to make use of such impacts cheers

[@terratec1001]

I wonder why the title was changed from "Why China’s Moon Crash Was Misidentified"...?

[@SuperSMT]

trying to find the most clickbaity headline without being _completely_ misleading

[@SpaceflightRocketShorts]

I’m a little late but still absolutely love the videos!

[@SaifKhan-wu4jt]

Wow I've never been this early on here! Great animation and editing btw👍🏻

[@lucidmoses]

Given they know where, they must know how fast it's going to hit. I wonder how much of it will be left when it hits.

[@02tank]

Probably vaporised instantly, maybe a couple millimetres of metal

[@user2C47]

Maybe fragments of engine parts.

[@henanasrin9892]

As a nerd these topics are very interesting to me

[@ishan3998]

Your videos Are Always Very Informative!!👌👌

[@neatboi4219]

Very good space videos

[@JokerFey]

always love "the office" reference

[@jonahwoodward503]

Where the date when the rocket was seen at 2:15 is exactly 10 years ago today and I just happened to be watching this video for the first time.

[@laurasebastian6036]

Great video!! 🌒

[@linxi5774]

Does anyone realize that Change-5 Mission was NOT launched at Sichuan central China but at Hainan Southen China? Does the path also trackback to Hainan?

[@huangclpku]

The suspected rocket is the upper stage of Chang'e 5 T1 mission, not Chang'e 5. It was launched by LM-3C rocket from Xichang in Oct. 2014.

[@SuperSMT]

They could track it back to China, it wasn't precise enough to match exactly which part of China

[@jonahjerryson4913]

Absolute wow at this video!

[@demonorb8634]

Won't the stage impact and mostly destroy any recognisable bits?

[@nighttow8780]

In hundreds of years? This rocket segment will be recovered within a decade

[@stephen_boss]

It's 18th March now, did it hit the Moon?

[@himssendol6512]

So then where is the falcon upper stage? 😳🚀

[@C.Mc.]

I had no idea that there were 1,609.44 kilometers in a mile. Man my math has been way off since childhood. For some reason I always thought that there was 1.6 kilometers in a mile. But at 0:45, the graphic showed that Lagrange Point 1 was 1.5M km or 932 miles, man do I feel dumb!

[@aerohk]

I love that there are people getting paid enough to look into what object is crashing to the moon at where

[@bedwarscrypt]

Nice

[@908animates]

Oh my gahd it's happening damn it

[@jojo_da_poe]

I am using a google plugin that shows dislikes, and you have 511 likes, 0 dislikes. Very impressive.

[@bricksofmarsmars9051]

Did it crash yesterday? Anyone here to confirm?

[@denniso8493]

could be that piece of "something" that ejected to space during russia's test a few months back... if so now you have to assume it was an intentional launch... just a few days to see what happens

[@sfsinfinity5862]

Perfecto 👌

[@davidmalka2184]

2:38 4:34 6:28

[@RTD1947]

I don’t think there is an identity problem, those that really count know the score!!

[@lyallfurphy]

The future looks bright for space archaeologists

[@AcePilot1233_real]

mistakes here: Change 5 was launched on an long march 5, not long march 3c. and it was launched in 2020

[@elefanny1106]

This is a decent person.

[@trainrick1]

So... Something gonna hit the moon? Will it ring again?

[@leoperez2566]

I don't think you can say everything on the moon is perfectly preserved since they're being exposed to direct solar radiation almost constantly.

[@evil993]

True, but generally when shit is left out randomly on earth, it's exposed to far more damaging effects in the form of weathering, which just doesn't happen on the moon. Though the intense radiation absolutely has a lot of effects on objects left in said radiation. Like how the flags brought to the moon by US astronauts are said to have been bleached white by now from the radiation. But generally speaking, that kind of radiation doesn't DESTROY/remove objects so much as it alters them, though upon reading this back that sounds super pedantic and like splitting hairs arguing over nonsense lol.

[@Threnody248]

If you’re interested in what shape the Earth actually is, it is considered to be an oblate spheroid.

[@vaughn1804]

Papa ganda.

[@rileymannion5301]

I think if we ever do make a sizeable presence on the moon we should preserve those sites ie not walking up to the Apollo lander to preserve the footsteps around it, perhaps a dome could be constructed and placed over the site to preserve it for longer

[@davidthomas9190]

👌

[@loliconaoquadrado6438]

Nasa must keep moving forward, because we were born in this world.

[@anshulpandey1]

It was ISRO who discovered water on the moon not NASA. Please correct that.

[@varunjs6418]

falcon lifts off on 12th Feb 2015 and rocket flies by moon on 14th Feb 2014??? did hear and read it right?

[@timothyortiz2222]

Hahaha, water on the moon. Ya, and lemonade 🍋 stands too.

[@shivanshgupta680]

I think you should make videos on some other important space topics also

[@primalspace]

Any suggestions?

[@kievbutcher]

@@primalspace would you be interested in making videos about scientific news regarding other planets and objects in our solar system or about ongoing missions? Or maybe more detailed technical videos about the mechanical side of space exploration, since that seems to be the greater interest of your video subjects.

[@epicdaniel508]

1:15 that‘s not how it works… if something‘s orbiting around a body it can‘t obtain any energy from its gravity. The only possibility for something like this would be a gravity assist through the moon‘s sphere of influence.

[@hamp9061]

It’s actually a Chinese rocket

[@krwiles]

4:45 "STAY FUCKING CALM!!!"

[@RailsofForney]

5:02 *Thank you for nothing.*

[@michaeljava8736]

I dont think the title is appropriate.

[@dansands8140]

Hundreds of years? Try 10.

[@kamideezkami97]

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[@rebumatadele6725]

What the fuck does this do with the title??

[@Nawabid]

*Pretty much all the parts are made in China and Russia 😆, tomatoes tangerines same thing....*

[@maxwalker1159]

cool

[@bazoo513]

I fail to understand why is everyone so hyped about this crash. Changing the identification of the spent stage felt like re-assigning some kind of blame. WTF, people? For launches into this kind of trajectories, nobody cares about fuel allotment needed to avoid Moon crash (presumable by lifting the stage into a heliocentric orbit). This is a no-issue - curiosity, yes, but nothing more.

[@trainrick1]

When the moon gets hit it should ring. No joke. I giess it has happened before. So has it happened? And did it ring?

[@bazoo513]

@@trainrick1 I don't think we had many (if any) active seismometers there sensitive enough to detect the effect.

[@loliconaoquadrado6438]

Kurzgesagt, is you?

[@RoryCoop-vb1un]

You know you could throw us Americans a bone and humor us with some standard measurements so we can have an idea of size and distance, I know you want to sound smart and brainy, but please

[@clavo3352]

Really good video! Don't know how but you might want to make a juvenile's game of the math involved in calculating the origin of that 2nd stage that will someday crash into the moon. I messed up and became a lawyer, in a misguided attempt to play Rescue the Family name from an errant sibling who thought they were gay. I gave up my life to effect the rescue only to be ostracized by my entire family. Long story short I succeeded but it cost me a happy life of my own. So; don't ever play rescue the family name! The transactional results will benefit no one. Wish I would have been the teacher I qualified to be.

[@euphan123]

What the f-bomb?

[@clavo3352]

@@euphan123 Zelda is the comment police. Be careful what you say, someone gave her permission to reference cuss words! OMG!

[@amreamer362]

So it wasn't China. We can't blame China!

[@Drakonus_]

Did you even watch the video?

[@iamgod8019]

China 5G technology vs USA 2G technology

[@trainrick1]

Haha china 5g is crap

[@thomasbramwell9592]

One day we'll find a crashed long march rocket. We will all think back to the beginning of the space age and our great leader that united the world!

[@pricelessppp]

Oh gee thanks China I guess at least it wasn’t over a innocent village.

[@STICKYJUICE_]

russia made a better space shuttle

[@kevikiru]

The title was very clickbaity and somehow misleading!!!

[@hennemmc5021]

Such an unimportant topic

[@randyinchesapeake8129]

Since no such thing as "SpaceX’s Moon Crash" exists, I'm gonna call this video "Garbage click-bait" ... and be more accurate than this video could ever dream of.

[@scavenger888]

This was a Russian space junk that was to hit the moon.

[@nraymondg]

Hahahahaha China 🇨🇳 🤣

[@GNDBK]

I call BS

[@MsSaudm]

ALL FAKE yeah I can make cartoons showing rockets too ALL BS

[@demonorb8634]

Flerf?

[@logitech4873]

Show us your rocket cartoons then

[@dangphucuong]

@@logitech4873 I'll wait for it

[@Kameezy]

wOw BeiJiNg UsEd aLl FaKe SnoW?!?

[@blahajgaeming]

dude it already crashed as of now its 9th

[@Drakonus_]

Duh. This video was uploaded before the crash, and was obviously made even way before that. Did you not even read the upload date before commenting?

[@aditya3127]

Dude you should check before commenting