SpaceX's shows new Starship Heat Tiles! And they're red!

[@Whataboutit]

What do you think? Which flight will be the first to take place at the new pad? Number 8? Number 9? Give me your best guess in the comments below! MERRY CHRISTMAS!!! 🎄

[@DreaMeRHoLic]

This is a complex question. I think the main reason for the pad is the block3 version on starship that is even higher and couldnt start from the old pad, because it's to high to stack? We know that the next flight will end up in the indian ocean and gets filmed with the special cameras. I wouldnt wonder if the flight after the next one also gets filmed, but that one with the new tiles AND THEN the they maybe go for the starship catch? I would've thought it's they try it after the next flight, but i think they will test the new heatshield before the catch, to make sure the ship doesnt break apart while the arms grab it. I also think that we will see 2 booster catches first and then, then they're sure, they will catch the booster with the new tower and the old tower will try to catch starship, because if the starship catch fails losing the old tower hurts a lot less than losing the new, taller tower for block3

[@jacobsteele2929]

I think they have control and accuracy of the ship down, so, as soon as they are happy with the heat shield, I think they will try to land a ship.

[@jenohathazi920]

Merry Christmas dear WAI

[@PLANET_ODREDS]

Where do you get these rocket models behind you? They are pretty cool…

[@rickg2520]

I think it will coincide with the refueling test so that two starships can launch and can land fairly close to one another (timewise). So looking late Spring early summer though its possible they would test it with a launch by early to mid spring.

[@JasonHuebel]

I'm just one dude on the Internet and nobody special, but I just wanted to say today you earned my trust to change the bell to "All" on your videos. There are so many AI-generated videos these days. Seeing a real-life person in the video has become a minimum requirement.

[@JasonHuebel]

Oh, and I just joined as a member.

[@manieviljoen90]

When I encounter an AI voice or cannot see the presenter, I downvote immediately. 😊 These people just waste my time, I like humans😂😂

[@sohama-z2j]

Plottwist: he is also AI generated

[@johnstewart579]

@@sohama-z2j Incorrect

[@MrMattuse]

So, Felix is the German, bad acting version of the T-1000? 99.9999% chance that’s not true. The .0001% chance he is? Scary.. hahahaha

[@Delerium1]

Put me in front of the heat shield, I’ll protect it 😮‍💨

[@ganymede6535]

I believe in you good sir

[@paulmichaelfreedman8334]

Once.

[@fakestory1753]

​@@paulmichaelfreedman8334well, at least it is renewable!

[@billcarriveau]

For a shorter time than you reading this.😂

[@Jose-wr1xn]

a one way journey

[@bablutyt]

Merry Christmas to everyone! 🎄

[@DanyalAdam-n3n]

Merry Christmas!

[@josemoutinho7213]

Merry Christmas to all space lovers.

[@Whataboutit]

❤️❤️❤️

[@PaulShanley]

11:54 my first thought is that this is a peel off film that both protects these particular tiles but more likely identifies them from the rest. Don’t touch these with your oily hands. Don’t forget these need special underlayment/need no special underlayment. Do not replace even if all others are. These tiles have special coatings we want exposed to the environment only when we’re ready to start observing them. Et cetera.

[@WilliamAshleyOnline]

Red makes it go faster.

[@qdaniele97]

Let's hope they won't decide to paint it yellow then 😅

[@737smartin]

Christmas color scheme.

[@Philanthropist.]

WH40K reference 😌

[@Mark-hb5zf]

But more prone to speeding tickets.

[@fridaycaliforniaa236]

Given the fact it has to get rid of speed by releasing heat, it would be better if it made it slower, actually XD

[@anastasiajcrowe]

It’s starting to seem like the FAA is catching up with the rapid pace and is starting to accommodate SpaceX more, Godspeed Starship! Godspeed SpaceX!

[@MojaveMark]

@anastasiajcrowe Being as how Elon is besties with the president elect, it just may have a teeny tiny bit to do with it.

[@anastasiajcrowe]

@@MojaveMark yeah the guy probably pulled some strings 😬

[@AnthonyRomero-w8u]

Dang right he did and humanity is better for it💯🎉😎🇺🇲​@@anastasiajcrowe

[@rayjay848]

But limited to the same flight profile. Stretching flight to HI or TX, orbiting and deorbit, test Starlink deploy, would all need to be to wait for more licenses.

[@TheHatManCole]

I’m so happy to hear a mention of Rocket Lab! I say this all the time but RL is a much more legitimate company than Blue Origin and they don’t get half the attention they deserve. By the time New Glenn becomes feasible it will have been entirely outpaced by not just Starship but RLs upcoming Neutron rocket. We need innovation not procrastination, and BO often gets the two mixed up.

[@Whataboutit]

I looked into my statistics yesterday. I talked about double the amount about RL compared to BO. Happy to see them succeed! ❤️❤️❤️

[@DCGreenZone]

Seems like RL doesn't want to waste too many "iterations" efficiency matters.

[@rayjay848]

The advantage of small and agile is proving itself. Being run by engineers doesn’t hurt either.

[@MonsterSound.Bradley]

I''m still mad that NASA canceled the already built VIPER robotic lunar rover mission. Just a little more funding,needed but NO. Plenty of billions for SLS though. WTF?

[@Wurtoz9643]

I’m right there with you. What was there even left to do?! Like 1 AA battery needed to be inserted.

[@zvorenergy]

In 27 days we'll have an administration that will be very focussed on cost effectiveness and Space eXploration

[@julianfp1952]

@@zvorenergyYeah. And I suspect Musk will have a big influence. Developing rovers that can prospect for resources including water ice seems to me to be something of huge interest to Musk so I would me surprised if he is already bending a few ears to get VIPER back towards the top of the priority list.

[@TheEvilmooseofdoom]

Congress holds the purse strings.

[@johnbazaar8440]

While the tiles get hot, they don’t absorb that much heat. The function of tiles isn’t to absorb heat, it’s to resist the transfer of heat to the rocket’s skin. It’s a barrier between the rocket’s skin and the hot plasma generated by atmospheric/aerodynamic compression. A minor technical comment on an otherwise good video. Merry Christmas to all.

[@darbyelliott2890]

I would make the inside white so that it's easy during inspections to see damaged sections in the sea of black tiles.

[@josephpeluchette191]

Merry christmas everyone

[@wheatley153]

Merry Christmas yall, you too Felix 😁

[@JP_Radar]

Why not have a rolling cover over the launch pad launch cavity, similar to what we do with our nuclear lanch sites. After the launch, have a door roll over the cavity to protect it from the returning booster and Starship? Plus the cover can be easily replaced if it shows signs of wearing in case of a booster failed catch, protecting the launch pad hardware in the cavvity

[@fridaycaliforniaa236]

That's a very clever idea !

[@TheEvilmooseofdoom]

Lots of extra engineering and complexity. Anything strong enough to do that is not going to be so easily replaced.

[@viewer_5714]

Merry Christmas to you all

[@theguyfromsaturn]

The color of the tiles might just be for identification purposes. If the coating color is not tied to its function, they may have chosen to change the color to easily identify them when putting them on the ship. The tiles are meant to be interchangeable, so they are probably not individually identified otherwise. It's easy to get them mixed at installation time. The color helps reduce risks of mixups. Why are they otherwise painted black? My guess is for better radiation properties, but I know very little about materials so my opinion either ways is useless... except to provide engagement for the channel. Keep up the good work.

[@apsdev]

The black tiles have a layer of pure carbon deposited on them to make them more heat resistant. Thats why the space shuttle has black tiles on the bottom, and white tiles on the back. The tiles on starship are sort of improved shuttle tiles or tufroc tiles. I think the red is just protective plastic foil. As often with aircraft and space ships red things are to be removed before flight. Like the red ribbons on caps on pitot tubes. It does look a bit like foil, i think it is to prevent glue getting on the tiles as the surface has to be as smooth as possible .. and the tiles above the red ones are glued on. As there are no mounting pins there. While the tiles with foil are mounted on pins. So maybe other tiles might have had foil on them too but it has been removed.

[@Worker225]

It is always a fun time when you upload, getting updates on space is important!

[@jenohathazi920]

Thank You dear Felix, and Merry Christmas

[@SaltyVet74]

9 or 10 Im anxious to see the first double catch

[@faheyplayer]

They ought to paint Mars bound ships various shades of green; it would look absolutely beautiful against the red regolith and easy to spot from kms away.

[@EverettAriaz-s7w]

Launch mount A, catch mount. Launch mount B, launch pad?

[@bruceyoung1343]

Merry Christmas Felix and your family too. It sure will be exciting when B tower is completed. I think they need launch tower like NASA’s robust enough for Saturn 5

[@noelfalls1240]

Thanks for some blue origin updates on the last few videos! Any and all companies that dare to spend billions on space exploration deserve respect and attention!

[@amazeddude1780]

It seems that the design of the fins acts much like a nozzle, squeezing superheated plasma through a narrow gap between the main structure of the ship and the fin attachments. Perhaps a redesign, perhaps by widening the space between the two surfaces, would control the plasma flow and thus achieve some reduction in the blow-torch effect.

[@JFJ12]

For complex Mars missions, there should be something like a Repair Base, where robots can investigate and repair other broken robots that are acting on the Mars surface or in the atmosphere etc.

[@5145mine]

Launch #9 will be at pad B, a lot of testing will need to be completed before any launches….

[@EverettAriaz-s7w]

Use launch pad A as a test stand, and use pad B for launch, while utilizing tower A as catching tower?

[@ElixirCortez]

Merry Xmas Felix! Great vid as always!

[@James-z1m5r]

Flight 9 will be when the new pad is first used

[@thomasjess6131]

Good morning Felix and WAI team!!

[@Whataboutit]

Good morning!!!

[@thomasjess6131]

@@Whataboutit can't wait for flight 7! Should be a great flight!!

[@mark-h8752]

A very Merry Christmas Felix can’t wait for 2025 I’m sure it’s going to be even more spectacular.

[@Imagine_Beyond]

3:51 Everything? Weren't some air conditioners on top of the star factory flown in by helicopter?

[@julianfp1952]

It’s interesting that you are one of the only channels I follow that still mentions Raptor QDs being on the Pad B OLM. The other school of thought is that individual RQDs for the outer Raptors complicated the OLM considerably and presented an additional 20 potential points of failure so on balance SpaceX has decided to go with some other way to start the outer engines. I guess we won’t know who is right until we see more finished OLM hardware, or a Raptor 3 with a QD receiving plate, or do you have some inside info that makes you think that RQDs will still be used on Pad B?

[@conlabgaming]

MARRY CHRISTMAS!

[@puddintame7794]

I wonder if a spray on ablative heat shield will end up being the answer. If it could be applied over the remaining heat shield, on the pad... and Ideally, mechanized.

[@dudermcdudeface3674]

Ablatives are, by definition, expendable. Ergo heresy as a general solution to anything.

[@puddintame7794]

@@dudermcdudeface3674 You fuel up the rocket, why not spray on a new heat shield? If it's cost effective.

[@dudermcdudeface3674]

@@puddintame7794 But then why not just add the same weight in durable shield and/or extra prop to reenter slower? LOX/Methane will inevitably be cheaper than any kind of special thermal coating. Plus they're planning on using fuel for transpiration cooling eventually.

[@puddintame7794]

@@dudermcdudeface3674 True enough... In the interim while the bugs are being cleaned up... a spray on heat shield would be a pragmatic solution. Especially if it lasts a few runs before needing to be reapplied.

[@garylester3976]

Thats a sharp looking design on Rocket Lab's launch platform... Beck never disappoints with out of the box thinking! 😂 I'm a big fan of Rocket Lab.🤗

[@tastyfrzz1]

Again, I'd explore a composite tile of uranium oxide, berilliym oxide, and lanthanum.

[@TheEvilmooseofdoom]

That sounds spendy.

[@paulmelham9223]

I think tower "B" will get used for flight 9 .. get it done dudes

[@eugenhuber3441]

Air separation, will they also go for a power plant or upgrade the grid connection?

[@rocktech7144]

A spray on type of shield is the most efficient way of maintaining the heat shield between flights. Any gaps or cracks will build up heat as it catches the super heated plasma.

[@TheEvilmooseofdoom]

It's still a silly notion. There is no magical spray on heat shield and no spray on shield could cope with the changes in expansion in different area's of the ship during different phases of flight.

[@glennkrieger]

Drones in New Jersey. Drones on Mars. What's next? I'd say more but I'd just drone on.

[@wolflarson100]

Just when i thought the Everyday Astronaut model of Starship could not get more exciting…. 😊

[@dbireland2003]

Well done👍🚀

[@allanchurm]

did boeing make the blades that snapped off ??

[@Agent_iraultza-mia]

where did you get that heat tile? (10:58)

[@Wurtoz9643]

After IFT-1 a lot of heat tiles washed up on the shore and I think he bought one of them that was scavenged

[@zebo-the-fat]

It fell off the back of a rocket!

[@golfish8589]

I am surprised the tower catches the booster over the launch pad. Why not catch it over to the side?

[@Cpl82111]

They should use Oreos as new tiles!! :-) Apparently they can't burn!! :-)

[@Zeyervv]

Being this early feels illegal

[@christopherruggles887]

Merry Christmas Felix and your family,also shout to all your viewers,Merry Christmas hope everyone will be safe over the holidays.

[@EricMortensen27]

Provided no anomalies requiring major repair to pad A, my guess is IFT-10 will be first one to use the new launch pad.

[@Jumpy66]

Red, it is Christmas 🤶

[@rayjay848]

That air separation plant seems dangerously close to the second tower. It wouldn’t do to have to repair that after each flight. 😢

[@RS-vp1ug]

Nice tile you have there!

[@sylver112]

Isn't it dangerous to have the tank farm so close to the launch tower?

[@TheEvilmooseofdoom]

There are always risks, but with super-chilled propellants plumbing runs are a real issue.

[@Concavenator_corcovatus]

The tiles are red so we can have a shiny variant of the starship for all those rocket catchers

[@christopherlundy5354]

Thanks!

[@Whataboutit]

Thank you so much! Merry Christmas!🎄

[@cottoncordel8091]

Make the Launch mount Rotary....no matter how the ship or booster lands....launch mount catches it and locks in perfect position.

[@TheEvilmooseofdoom]

That would be monstrously complex, expensive and likely of little real value.

[@JohnPaul-yf9xd]

I think they're making the tiles red so that the passengers don't panic when the ship is overheating.

[@DixonCyderBusch]

If they are using a new heat shield composition it makes sense to have them be red so the differentiation in their performance can easily be compared 🤔

[@Aw3s0m3Z3bra]

MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!

[@MDSBock]

Yeessss, Felix you're new hair rocks-it...

[@petermcguire8260]

Put in the composite tanks on the inside of the rocket ship. Everyone else puts them on the outside of the rocket ship forever. This seems like a no-brainer less drag on the inside of the rocket! Which could be a good reason they made the rocket just a little bit bigger to hold them.

[@TheEvilmooseofdoom]

The drag is not that big an issue. Making the rocket a bit bigger means starting over. Maybe leave engineering to actual engineers.

[@alexanderx33]

The mars chopper knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn't, by subtracting where it is, from where it isn't, or where it isn't, from where it is, whichever is greater, it obtains a difference, or deviation. The guidance sub-system uses deviations to generate corrective commands to drive the chopper from a position where it is, to a position where it isn't, and arriving at a position where it wasn't, it now is. Consequently, the position where it is, is now the position that it wasn't, and it follows that the position where it was, is now the position that it isn't. In the event of the position that it is in is not the position that it wasn't, the system has required a variation. The variation being the difference between where the chopper is, and where it wasn't. If variation is considered to be a significant factor, it too, may be corrected by the GEA. However, the chopper must also know where it was. The chopper guidance computance scenario works as follows: Because a variation has modified some of the information the chopper has obtained, it is not sure just where it is, however it is sure where it isn't, within reason, and it knows where it was. It now subracts where it should be, from where it wasn't, or vice versa. By differentiating this from the algebraic sum og where it shouldn't be, and where it was. It is able to obtain a deviation, and a variation, which is called "error".

[@kabaduck]

Ablation layer, can be reapplied each flight

[@RonnGrubb]

I have always thought from the beginning that the heat shield would be SpaceX biggest challenge. It is sure looking that way. It was a big problem with the spaceshuttle that caused it to take so long to refly. From a engineering problem its a very hard one. The forces and heat are big. To have something strong enough an lightweight and nonoblating is a hard problem to crack. But what do I know I'm just a dumb carpenter.😬Oh ya Flight #10

[@TheEvilmooseofdoom]

That's what spacex said too. The TPS is going to be the prime issue.

[@augustwest9727]

17:09 This movie scene is from a Movie called Batteries Not Included. Very good Movie.

[@droogkloot666]

Question... is there a reason that agencies don't use multiple copies of the same rover/drone? Since they would have already spent the R&D for one, why not make multiple? Maybe launch costs, but would there be any other? If the mars chopper concept ever get sent to mars then weight wouldn't be an issue. Sending multiple to cover a larger area wouldn't be impossible right?

[@TheEvilmooseofdoom]

Because each does different things, are planned for different launches, have different power requirements, will use different power sources. The Mars chopper concept was sent to mars, but how does a mars chopper make weight a non-issue?

[@theguyfromsaturn]

So, ingenuity got "bored to death"? What a way to go.

[@therocinante3443]

Brother I love space news, but it's frustrating that the title is about red heat shield tiles, but it's only mentioned for 20 seconds halfway through the video. This video isn't about the heat shield tiles.

[@MalrusOSC]

Red heat shields, even got the Tesla design language in there

[@electrickcustomcruisers2502]

Black absorbs more radiant heat than lighter colors. Yes, even in the dark. Lol. Different wavelengths. So it would make sense not to use black on a radiant heat tile.. 😊

[@brysonheslop4852]

Merry Christmas

[@jean-michellecointre6505]

14:01 Hydrogen gas is made of H2 molecules, which means two atoms of Hydrogen linked together. Anyway, it remains a very small molecule.

[@Paul-ng4jx]

Good morning Felix

[@aloisiooliveiralacerda3802]

Could you return with the audio track in Portuguese? There are a lot of fans of the channel here.

[@Whataboutit]

I wish! It’s an experimental feature in Beta from KZbin. This time it just decided that the video couldn’t be processed. 🤪❤️❤️❤️

[@jackturner8472]

Hopefully they paint the rest of the hull white and blue

[@TolisOnLine]

I hope all space endeavor companies make is soon, because SpaceX alone is not enough to make things happen fast.

[@HAVOC_26]

Don't think color really matters for any heat shield. The moment it's used it's going to turn black anyways. 7,000°F will do that.

[@petermcguire8260]

Glue The secret might just be glue. Just coat the outside of the ship with glue get some big sprayers when you get done with it for the next time just spray it over with glue until it weighs the same and shoot it back up pulling them rockets in for right now just to keep going it's pretty cool because an awful lot of them don't won't need that just keep the program moving by sending up ships and getting the next refill done.

[@tomwinston6758]

Chopsticks…Assemble

[@christopherruggles887]

When will the new launch tower be operational?

[@goontheracoon]

blue origin struggling to get their phallic rocket up is probably the best think I've heard this week.. cant make this shit up XD

[@jackhydrazine1376]

I hope they don't experience premature detonation!

[@Tiberius-vs9wc]

??? Competition in the space industry is the only way to get sustainable technological development. Without competition starship would never be able to iterate and generate better versions. At least- that’s in the long term. Elon musk’s ambitions for starship will keep it afloat for the short term, but any profit seeking entrepreneur will cut costs and begin making shoddy ships.

[@clutchr6688]

@Tiberius-vs9wc idk, if you have the profit margin that SpaceX is set to have for the foreseeable future they could make errors that makes Boeing look competent and they would still be ok financially.

[@clutchr6688]

Not to say they will but it goes to the point that they have the(not so) disposable income to make the most effective vehicle for large objects to orbit that could also get human-rated soon relative to anyone else.

[@KirkMcDonald-h2s]

😂😂😂 BO, aka body odor, must be a junk smell 😂😂

[@chammockutube]

Merry CHRISTmas Felix!!!!!

[@rkr9861]

Are we going to officially turn SpaceX v BO into a Red vs Blue thing?

[@Wurtoz9643]

Rocketlab has to be green in that case

[@EdwinSherwood]

Just imagine if the government worked that efficiently

[@Robietexture]

6:27 i think number 8 becausr when they Catch the boster they neet a 2. Tower for the ship

[@IsaacDaBoatSloth]

the ship will have to do several orbits before its back in line with boca chica which gives spacex enough time (at minimum 8 hours) to land the booster, safe it, remove from OLM and transport to safety

[@tomdarco2223]

Right On awesome info

[@aalhard]

15:41 Auto driving based only on cameras. Where have I seen this problem before?

[@mrkitty1367]

always a great show !

[@mustang607]

Weren’t the ship lifting pin mechanisms modified because all future Starships will be block 2?

[@jfowler702910]

Why does SpaceX plan to catch boosters and starships directly over the OLM? I would think that if the chopsticks can lift boosters and starships from the side and then swing them over the OLM that they should also be able to catch them from the side as well? Wouldn't this lessen the amount damage inflicted on the OLM? Just curious if anyone has any explanation. Thanks!

[@TheEvilmooseofdoom]

Not sure about their reasoning but aiming for the middle of the arms means you have the widest margins for error on either side.

[@dbrownbrown4769]

What about dedicated landing towers. Protect launch systems.

[@Wurtoz9643]

Defeats point of immediately being able to put it back on the pad and ready for next flight.

[@TheEvilmooseofdoom]

It might come to that, but it would be a huge hit in efficiency and they tend to strive for efficiency.

[@RvaTube]

Perhaps in the future the heat shield will be sprayed on like insulation foam

[@TheEvilmooseofdoom]

Wouldn't work, and there is no magical spray on heatshield.

[@TheHandyHam73]

Flight 7 is all about the Heat Shield. Flight 7 will fly on January 11 because that's when the NASA Study of the Heat Shield will take place. My understanding is that SpaceX is going to a Metallic Heat Shield made from a fancy Alloy which will be internally cooled most likely by Propellant or some Cryogenic Fluid that they are working on.

[@TheEvilmooseofdoom]

They're talking about alternatives for some area's.

[@anzuis7]

Where did u get a heat shield tile 😭 i want one

[@kenanacampora]

Nice umlaut over the O in Raptor. :>)

[@charlespage8112]

feeding the beast.. Keep up the good work.

[@zvorenergy]

Iron oxide ceramic is bright red and rated up to 1000 C or 1832 F

[@fiveleafcloverfpv4445]

Those are just Christmas theme Tiles 🤶