SpaceX Starship Flight 8 Just Got INSANELY Fast - Here's Why?

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[@Whataboutit]

Go to ground.news/WAI to explore diverse perspectives and stay up to date on Space and Science news. Subscribe through my link for 40% off unlimited access or try it out for less than $1/month! It’s a race between Booster 14 and Booster 16 to see which one makes it to the Flight 9 launch pad first! Who’s your pick to win?

[@esraefja1]

If he had known that Elon had built this, he would have left immediately

[@johnbuchman4854]

What's a "Blew Ohredgin"?

[@LoociferZ]

Zenith isn't Zenneth...it's pronounced ZEEnith, my good German friend. :) ~Your whacky and annoying Canadian friend, Chris.

[@jeffreyfrank5766]

@@Whataboutit booster 14 is my guess

[@TheGalacticIndian]

Imagine an alien mothership flying through the inner solar system and spotting a Tesla roadster with an astronaut on board...

[@meldoon]

No intelligent life here…….

[@LordDustinDeWynd]

Saw an article coupla days ago where near-earth-object observatories picked up new object approaching, possibly Earth-grazing. Zoomed in, was red car with astronaut...

[@williamhoward7121]

It will result in some very confused aliens! How.. Why.. Wait a minute, didn't we send Elon to this solar system?

[@Whataboutit]

Alien Captain: How could they get it so horribly wrong? 😂

[@jeechun]

They would not panic, at least. :D

[@riogrande5761]

Felix is always so so excited! Must be strong coffee before each video!

[@rdejaynes]

When I'm getting paid, I can be excited to, and even dance and bounce a ball on my head.

[@jacekplacek9288]

Maybe or maybe this is what he true love ???

[@Drifttheorygarage]

A lot of your favourite KZbinrs pop Adderall

[@minignlat]

It's the pay check

[@Choc_Chilla]

he wouldnt have much of a channel if he didnt appear excited. It's literally his job to be Excited in his videos. Its actually a very hard job. I started live streaming about 5 weeks ago and remaining positive and excited on camera for up to 10 hours at a time is exhaustingly difficult. Kudos to many of the CC's who do this for a living. it is surprisingly hard work.

[@stainlesssteelfox1]

Felix: No Large rovers have driven on the moon. Lunokhod 1 & 2: Am I a joke to you?

[@Michael_Kazansky]

Lunokhod 1 (USSR) was delivered to the surface of the Moon on November 17, 1970, by the Soviet interplanetary station Luna-17 and operated on the lunar surface until September 14, 1971 (on this day, the last successful communication session with the vehicle was conducted). Thus, the operational duration of Lunokhod-1 was 302 days. During these 302 days, the rover traveled 10.5 km at an average speed of 0.14 km/h. Lunokhod 2 was delivered to the Moon on January 15, 1973, by the automatic interplanetary station Luna-21. Over four months of operation, Lunokhod-2 traveled 42 kilometers (a record distance that remained unbroken until 2015, when it was surpassed by the Mars rover Opportunity), transmitted 86 panoramic images and about 80,000 television frames to Earth.

[@CountryLifestyle2023]

I feel like Pad B will completely change the game. Will allow quick turn around for flights. Cant wait to see a launch from Pad B

[@kevinim300]

yes. I also think it will be even quicker when OLM 1 is modified for catch only. 😀

[@puncheex2]

16:23 - You are forgetting, of course, the Soviet Lunokhod rovers of 1971 and 1973. Designed to operate for mere days, they both exceeded their expectations. Lunokhod 1 traveled over 2 km in 11 days and Lunokhod 2 ran for four months until a procedural accident caused dust to be dumped into the interior, an overheat and loss of communications.

[@phillm156]

I hope stoke space becomes successful & gives space X some comp!

[@nathanmays7926]

Every true space enthusiast wishes nothing but success for Stroke, Blue Origin, Rocket Lab, and SpaceX. More rockets more better.

[@ct6502c]

​@@nathanmays7926Exactly. The only way we're ever going to have real space exploration and travel is if there are a bunch of companies doing it. It can't just be SpaceX.

[@LoociferZ]

I get how they want to do an aerospike however the initial design vs what I've seen flying are two exactly different things. I also wonder how much is going to get lifted by that....

[@sirexilon]

So it is clear that SpaceX is paying you Felix. If you try to say that Flight 7 wasn't a failure. 1st block 2 exploded not even close to orbit. On the other hand Blue origin was a success yes they didn't land the. Booster if they have done it it would prove that it's easy, and is not. It they reach orbit. So rocket is. Basically ready for missions. I love SpaceX ingenuity creativity but let's face it. An idiot said the water system for pad A was not necessary...... Right .... And we all knew that wouldn't work. More after the first few static fires. But still pushed through. And it could have been catastrophic for the program if flight 1 would have exploded on the pad with everything else. So there are things being rushed and things. Being done because 1 person delirium thinks it should work. Be imparcial. You no longer believable Felix.

[@Matityahu-the-God]

​@@sirexilonbro go drink some water or something. You're seriously suggesting that SpaceX needs to pay Felix so he will give positive and optimistic news? You must have your foil hat on too tight buddy.

[@TheAverageDutchman]

16:24 "Large rovers have never driven on our closest neighbour in space".... Uhmmm, are you just going to completely ignore the 170x160x135cm rovers weighing 850kg of the lunokhod program? I would definitely class them as "large rovers". The soviets might have ultimately lost the manned race to the moon but those 2 rovers were an impressive achievement in the early 70s! Lunokhod 2 held the record for longest distance covered on an extraterrestrial body (42km) until 2014.

[@troys9222]

We drove a fold-out dune buggy, too.

[@ct6502c]

​@@troys9222True, but I think he was specifically referring to unmanned reconnessainse rovers like the ones we have on Mars now. He just worded it in kind of a weird way.

[@troys9222]

@@ct6502c Yeah, I even considered that, but I had to mention the buggy.

[@Michael_Kazansky]

@@ct6502c The Lunokhod is precisely an unmanned reconnaissance vehicle.

[@stainlesssteelfox1]

I pointed out the same thing.

[@fbisurveillancevan1635]

7:30 ... As much as I love SpaceX, the industry should not become dependent on one provider.

[@TheDragonOverlord3522]

Agreed but they are currently the cheapest and most reliable launch provider so most people unless they need something specific they will just choose the best option

[@JAMOABGLP]

@@TheDragonOverlord3522 sure, but the article is not wrong about not only being dependend on SpaceX

[@keithfield]

You can no longer separate Musk from SpaceX. He's disassembling our democracy piece-by-piece with out any congressional approval or oversight. Thats illegal under the constitution. It's also treason. Yes we need the competition, but we need a functional country even more.

[@nathanmays7926]

It's not SpaceX's fault competitors aren't competing.

[@arrendaled]

I agree, but the other guys need to catch up to the current technology of SpaceX, Blue origin is the closest and the Boeing ship is never going to fly again

[@Zeyervv]

Every WAI video is an instant click

[@Whataboutit]

Thank you very much!

[@samrobinson2614]

Until you get to the repeated 2.8 million returning viewers not subscribed section that's not been changed in a year, apart from that, great.

[@sonofkami]

​@samrobinson2614 true but that's a crazy amount of returning viewers that won't just click a button lol

[@samrobinson2614]

@@sonofkami my point is they just repeat the same speech with the same image of 2.8 it cant have been the same for this long surely

[@jpeterd92]

​@@samrobinson2614it literally changed this episode where he updated it to over 4 million

[@BretBowman64]

Great job as always. Got to go with Booster 14 for flight 9

[@Whataboutit]

I’d love that!!! ❤

[@ryanodonnell1823]

WAI is half the reason I open KZbin

[@joeybox0rox649]

Nazis' attract other Nazis.

[@Whataboutit]

Thank you! And the other half? 👀

[@sahilzari5521]

What is othe half??

[@ThatOrigamiFolder]

What is the other half? 😂

[@shellac23]

Listening to music from the Melvins

[@robertaitken1514]

The machine that winds up the wire rope is called a winch if its small and a winder if its a big one for mines. Winders can easily be 6 meters in diameter.

[@adwood201]

Can we buy an actual PEZ dispenser in the shape of a Starship?.... Yet?

[@Whataboutit]

Not yet!!!

[@marccracchiolo4935]

@@Whataboutitbut soon I hope

[@LarryVetter]

That would be cool!

[@LordDustinDeWynd]

16:35 Lunar rovers... didn't the Soviets put two rovers on the Moon with the Lunokhod program?

[@johgude5045]

Exactly what i thought. They landed even before the US rovers

I'd love to watch a launch but I couldn't go to the pavilion because if I hear "Oh my God" again I'm going postal for sure.

[@chairman823]

Oh my God!!

[@JohnFoerster-i5y]

Good sir, thank you for your hard work, Felix, sifting through all the information that you have gotten and bringing it to us.

[@philipgrice1026]

Another great video from Felix. I loved the cameo appearance of the Tesla roadster. Kewl! Felix and his 'team' continue to provide current and relevant information during this new era for space travel. Thank you all.

[@SuperDre74]

I guess the 25 flights for Starship won't happen, I'll bet even 5 or 6 is going to be a stretch. And it seems it'll take some time more before Starship is ready to even go to the moon.

[@kimweaver1252]

Starship won't happen as a moon transport and even MORE is not a go for Mars. Not a practical system. It will presently be discovered by even the dumbest pols and hoi polloi that any money spent to "Save humanity" had best be spent on the one planet which we know can support life. It is likely too late, but we have nothing to lose by putting a full court press into trying to keep our lovely little planet from becoming incompatible with life.

[@terryfish6900]

It's still experimental.

[@daveamies5031]

Something you could investigate is if spacex is using fresh water or sea water? I suspect it's fresh water as it's far less corrosive than sea water, but sea water is far more readily available, and if spacex wants to have many launch locations and floating launch locations, a dependence on fresh water will be very limiting

[@MrGaborseres]

Wow!!! Felix has come a long way from his humble beginning. Everything is smooth and professional in his presentations. Up there with the best. 💪👍 Congratulations! My friend, I've been with you since the get go ☝️🙂

[@Wirmish]

9:56 - The rebound of the chopsticks was SCARY AF.

[@meanderinoranges]

Yikes! I hadn't seen that. No doubt some engineers needed to make a run to the Fresh Pants Store after that catch.

[@richardzeitz54]

Exciting news about Stoke Space! Zenith is pronounced "zee nith." Just so you know.

[@DarrenPoulson]

Depends where you live. :P

[@denisg6361]

I don't think we're going to see 25 Starship launches this year.

[@ameritoast5174]

Always excited for a WAI video and to see what SpaceX and other space companies are working on.

[@AcapulKero]

Thanks for the update bro 👍

[@PlushGrenade]

Could you share in your next video, what launch providers could currently get Viper to the moon and rough cost?

[@jtgus]

No large rovers on the moon? What about Lunokhod?

[@MarkWoodrow00]

It will be interesting to see how much opposite force the action of deploying the satellites applies to the ship.

[@LoociferZ]

I'd like to see what an actual commercial release and delivery system will look like instead of pez dispensers.

[@johnrday2023]

Great idea to build a much-needed proper view platform for spectators to view Spacex launches (and make commercial profit!)

[@keithfield]

And destroy our democracy in the process. Think of the money we could make!

[@ct6502c]

​@@keithfield🙄 What does building a place for the public to watch a rocket launch have to do with politics?

[@chrischeshire6528]

Stoke Space has increased the size of the NOVA first stage , now the overall height will be 197 feet.

[@MichaelK1710]

@@chrischeshire6528 metric system is superior

[@brendentodd9360]

@MichaelK1710 Only for space flight purposes. Imperial is better for everything else

[@brainrotchallenge]

The company we could be fan of, after shittifying of everything musk touched.

[@Matityahu-the-God]

​@@brendentodd9360 they're both just ways of measuring the same shit. If you're intelligent, either one is good enough.

[@Final1335Days]

The rapidity of building, and the simplicity of design, the Starship reminds me of a a World War II item that is rather famous, the Jeep. Therefore, Space Jeep, or SpaceX Jeep.

[@StardiamondFN]

i would love it if you uploaded these episodes to apple podcasts

[@paulmattson5604]

Starting to think it would be nice to hear more about Blue Origin.

[@williamvallieres3084]

they share nothing and updates takes months if not years... spacex changes are made by the hour

[@tombels7159]

Just a thought.... If they're trying to cool the starship during re-entry wouldn't it make sense to spin it along its axis a spread the heat stress to both sides. That should allow it to shed some heat from the side away from the re-entry pressure.

[@kodandasaivenkat4001]

The GOAT space expo channel is by Felix❤❤❤

[@CountryLifestyle2023]

I've tried several others, but Feelix just has a certain something that brings me back everytime, not saying others are bad just that I like Feelix more

[@shannoncalt8354]

I wonder why the pez dispenser opening isn’t at the top. In space, with no gravity, moving the star links “up” is as effortless as “down” but the pez dispenser opening can be higher, meaning less weight on the opening and less reinforcement.

[@threefeetofair758]

Also, loading at the factory means transporting a top heavy ship to the launch pad!

[@marccracchiolo4935]

Newtons 2nd law of motion for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. They want a more stable mass to eject them because as they’re ejected there will be a slight push back against the ship

[@shannoncalt8354]

@@marccracchiolo4935 So, yeah. Weight savings (less reinforcement) versus ejecting from the top and inducing a spin that would have to be counteracted (more). Makes sense.

[@LoociferZ]

I wonder when we'll see an actual satellite launcher vs. just the spacex launcher.

[@Coasterlocity]

I had a feeling a Raptor maybe broke something in the aft section like the firewall itself and not a plumbing issue that caused the leak. I hope it's not too long of a delay to figure it out.

[@Nathan-vt1jz]

I really like the approach Stoke Space is using and hope it works.

[@th3roomi342]

Biggest fan from Hawaii 🔥 we love playing your videos at my restaurant Mimi’s! Can’t wait for the next launch!

[@scottwheeler2494]

The weight bearing capability of the catch arm is huge. The offshore drill rig will hang many MILES of drill stem from the rig. They drill in 10k feet of water down to beyond 15k feet deep. That's about 5 miles of very heavy pipe and the very heavy drill mud inside. Obviously millions of pounds are routine loads. So a Starship is nothing.

[@jamesbond_007]

Great video as always! Protip: in English, we pronounce "zenith" as "ZEEnith" -- I heard you say it as "ZENith" as one might say in some other language (like the equivalent Russian word is I think Zenit and is pronounced like you did but with a hard t instead of th at the end).

[@huudathot]

Remember he is German and the word is also Zenit in that language. The Z is more of a ts sound and the th is a hard t. (Russian - according to Google translate - is similar to the German but with almost a tilde on the N). It's just an accent on a similar word. Potato/Potatoe 🙂

[@steven8640]

In British English you pronounce it Zenith not Zeenith.

[@michaelperlbach3438]

There had been other than US-American larger rovers on the Moon: The Soviet Lunokhods in 1970 and 1973.

[@newspace.usa.01]

Every WAI video is an instant must-click!

[@Whataboutit]

🙌🏼🔥❤️

[@LinthusOriginal]

The priority is to test block 2 starships, the safe way is to use a brand new booster, to guarantee a good test result, even tho they need test the reusability of boosters. It's not about a bet, but statistic probability with goals and past successes, they mostly likely are going with block 2 flight test in a new booster with fewer pre-flight tests, and they may do some extensive pre-flight tests on the previous flew booster but not flying it.

[@geobrower3069]

One thing I haven't seen is how will Starship counteract the energy of the Starlink satellites being ejected, surly there will be a push in the opposite direction for every satellite being released?

[@hairyott3rr]

RCS handles non engine maneuvering and corrections in vacuum, there are videos of it in action

[@fridaycaliforniaa236]

RCS thrusters ;)

[@geraldtribbe6363]

Love the satirical elements!

[@Lastrophil]

Good job, you and Space X !

[@julianfp1952]

I wonder whether SpaceX putting together a highly subsidised plan to get Viper to the Moon in return for access to the Viper rover technology could be a win-win - NASA gets a budget friendly way to complete the mission and SpaceX gets a head start on technology for a rover to prospect for water on Mars, something that is critical to Elon’s Mars colonisation dreams. Yes, the Moon is a very different environment to Mars but I suspect that Viper still has a lot of technology that SpaceX could use as a starting point for a Mars version.

[@richinvancouver3100]

They will not re-fly a booster at this point in the design phase. Too many changes per flight.

[@Nathsin]

love these vids, very informative. glad you guys have found a sponsorship with decent-seeming morals!

[@DireW0lf0]

I don't think the OLM will be moveable as it does not have enough weight to move with a booster on it without the possibility tipping over. Also the OLM needs the embedded pipes to be plumbed in for deluge and fire suppression.

[@farscape1714]

Any news on the Falcon 9 upper stage stuck in orbit?

[@EchoCharlie11]

They really need to start working on a large cargo bay door. It’s been years

[@CapitalWheeler]

Talk about keeping your eye on the ball. Can VIPER endure a lunar night?

[@doug29661]

hey felix - a fan here - but keep you feet on the ground

[@johgude5045]

You forgot the russian moon rovers Lunokhod 1 and 2 that landed even before the US rovers

[@nicovandyk3856]

Thanks for your great content: You rock! And PS: Thank you for calling out media bias!!!!

[@matiasbravo4297]

Por que a veces esta disponible el audio en español y a veces no?

[@flightsimdev]

I'm sure his workers are sick of hearing Musks name on the news after doing their 120 hr shifts.

[@lanav9679]

Red Line Heli is Super Cool Dude ! FanDamTastic Ride ! Love It!!

[@yamspaine]

They need a 3 stage starship. booster gets reused, or disposed of for high energy, get rid of complexity in starship, just make it a disposable booster, then a high energy 3rd stage, perhaps borrowed from something else. Imagine how much mass can go up if they simplify futher. would be cool if they just top starship with the payload.

[@earth2006]

I prefer sombreros over special cowboy hats. Sombreros provide better protection against sunlight. That's very special and important. Yep, it's very important.

[@enviropediaxr6007]

It's getting a week bit heavy on advertising. Subscribe, and sponsor is a always a viewer's choice. Guilting someone into subscribing might be the wrong energy to bring a better audience.

[@dlfabrications]

Ounce the Starlink satellites have outlived there usefulness, they are going to have to come up with a solution to bring them back to earth because there will too much space debris in Earth's atmosphere right? 🤔

[@Whataboutit]

Starlink satellites deorbit naturally after a few years, due to their (by design) low-altitude, 'high-drag' orbits. If the satellite doesn't intervene with it's thrusters, that is. ^^

[@seancollins9745]

I wondered if the spin prime prior to ignition caused the fire, the answer must be YES, the hot staging ring got hot as hell to

[@perpetualpunster]

Can Crusher 2.0 is looking more and more like an Iron Maiden for Starships.

[@Chris.Davies]

How are they so fast? They do a terrible job, that's how! Do you remember when NASA had the catchphrase "BETTER FASTER CHEAPER"? It required a corollary: PICK TWO! Because you can have better and faster but not cheaper. You can have cheaper and better but not faster. And you can have cheaper and faster but not better. It seems SpaceX has yet to learn this invaluable lesson, as they continue to destroy billions of dollars of rockets. And those of mostly tax-payer dollars, it's worth pointing out...

[@milandavid7223]

SpaceX is pretty clearly in the faster&cheaper category with Starship. Also, it's privately funded, unlike NASA.

[@anatonyjahs6464]

Audio very good.

[@BillMooney-r5c]

Could it have been the meshing of the new block 3 connections for the Raptor 3 and the adaptation of the Raptor 2 for the flight?

[@garyc1384]

Elon will solve all these issues within a few days of winning the world gaming champs......

[@Xyyynz]

where did you get the starship replica behind you?

[@scottymoondogjakubin4766]

In the united states Zenith is pronounced " zee-nith" ! 😂

[@lostincyberspaceIII]

I did some ruogh math and if they build a 54 foot tall viewing platform you should be able to see the ground that would also help make sure anything medium tall is out of the way too.

[@mattgypson1054]

Z ‘eee’ nith not ‘Zen’ ith

[@zorrbock]

That pavilion discussed at 8:45 is not going to offer much in the way of viewing. That's way north up S. Padre. The park on the south end is as close as you can get and offers decent viewing. Not fantastic but as good as you're going to get. That pavilion is a couple miles further north and the entire town of South Padre with all the tourist crap and buildings and high rise hotels etc stand between it and the launch site.

[@rafaelbarkhordarian5194]

Are the block 2 ships made with a different alloy or a thinner sheet I remember mention of this at some point could this be a part of the reason for the leak

[@emirerdem1131]

I watched soo many videos of you because they are soo good!

[@blengi]

are there any youtube videos of what booster 7 engine state was like post catch compared to 5 ?

[@ericblanchard5873]

Stoke space looks like an offensive missile more than a rocket.

[@SebastianWellsTL]

It's no surprise that the mainstream media is biased against SpaceX.

[@explanitorium6462]

@@SebastianWellsTL why?

[@everettputerbaugh3996]

1: It is non-union. 2: It is supporting Russia against Ukraine by disregarding sanctions. 3: Its figurehead is dismantling and taking over the U.S. governmental infrastructure, by violating the Constitution and various laws...

[@keithfield]

Oh? You mean they want to report the news that Elon doesn't like? Dismantling our democracy isn't news worthy to you? Boot licker? Yup.

[@unitrader403]

@@explanitorium6462 cause elon hate is popular these days

[@spaceman-spiff]

The hate is deserved.

[@Rotem_Golan22]

Amazing 🤩

[@Cxsar]

I don’t now why i see this every week but i still see it every week 😂

[@yoskarokuto3553]

( with the exception of the apollo lunar rover ) , of course. some of you might already know this mission as it was already set to fly to the moon. ? What do you want to say ?

[@ronaldlebeck9577]

I wonder if SpaceX will put a camera inside that space in Starship so they can see if/when there's a failure between the engine firewall and the tank dome. As small as video cameras have become, they could visually monitor more places inside (maybe not inside the tanks themselves, but the other voids).

[@unitrader403]

Fun fact: they have Cameras inside the Tanks. or at least used to. Some F9 livestreams showed them by accident for a few seconds..

[@michaelcox1071]

Last I heard, SpaceX has 33 engineering cameras all over the ship and booster.

[@dakota4766]

I wonder why they are bothering with the pezz dispenser? Wouldn’t a more universal system for releasing payloads be better?

[@Kr0N05]

That is just tailormade for his satellites; they will no doubt have bay doors at some later date on a different version of Starship. Maybe a version where the whole front nose cone swings up and out of the way to allow a cylindrical payload to come out of the front.

[@dakota4766]

@ I get that it’s Taylor made for the larger Starlink. But like with falcon nine, they released the starlings in a similar way that they release other payloads. This is so tailor-made for one type of payload. I wonder if it’s not optimizing something that should not exist.

[@julianfp1952]

Don’t forget that Falcon 9’s upper stage is expendable whereas Starship’s is being designed to be reusable. It’s probably quite an engineering challenge to create a huge payload bay door that can open and then crucially shut again with the precision and structural strength retained for it to survive reentry and a catch. I suspect that getting the engineering right for a working implementation of the current small payload bay door and pez dispenser is easier and SpaceX wants to be able to launch the bigger Starlinks as soon as it can so maybe it went for the fastest solution for now. Elon has demonstrated before how ruthless he can be in focusing without distraction on what is needed right now and leaving other stuff for a later day. I’m sure a big general purpose payload bay door will come at some point but looking at Artemis renders (HLS on the Lunar surface and tanker refuelling in LEO) plus renders of Starships on the Martian surface none of that stuff shows a full size payload bay door so it’s quite possible that it might be quite a while before we do see SpaceX allocating resources to that. That’s one reason why I think that some of the really single minded SpaceX fans are too quick to dismiss the importance of New Glenn. With NG’s huge fairing volume and more conventional payload release mechanism, if we do have to wait a while before SpaceX prioritises developing a full size payload bay then for quite a few years to come NG might be the launch system of choice to get very large payloads up to LEO (large in volume terms, admittedly with nothing like the payload mass capabilities we hope Starship will deliver, but still useful for stuff like space station modules or space telescopes that won’t have to do James Web folding mirror tricks hence simplifying designs and saving costs).

[@PlanXV]

I know someone who would like to buy the rover 😊

[@ninehundreddollarluxuryyac5958]

The Viper rover would become more valuable if NASA sent it to the moon with the Griffin lander as originally planned, instead of their current plan to land an inert mass simulator instead of the rover they already built. Something political killed it, because it makes no logical or economic sense.

[@arnoldsmith5754]

good update🤠🤠

[@psychologicalprojectionist]

It could be that flight 8 RUD becomes a major learning experience. Here's hoping 🤞

[@pierreterblanche4830]

@psychologicalprojectionist it would be nice if finally one does not explode...

[@ryanrobertson8951]

It sounds like they aren't going to reach the goal of 25 launches. Maybe 5.

[@williamvallieres3084]

i would say 1 per month average so 10-12

[@filonin2]

With Elon in control of the FAA I don;t see why he can't launch or land whenever or wherever he likes.

[@EditsAndMore-y8z]

How much is the red line helicopter 🚁 tour?

[@jubeaumont6305]

@1:17 this might sound like a stupid question but please understand, I can only watch on my old Samsung phone, in the background, is that ice or clouds ?the white stuff?

[@Johnny5CD]

Its clouds, the ship on a suborbital trajectory.

[@Jeffrey_Bezos_Amazon]

Good job, Felix.

[@liefsillion2825]

18:27 ... "There won't be a base on the moon if there is no ice." This assertion is incorrect. There is no shortage of oxygen on the moon. The problem involves extracting it from the available raw materials. Extracting oxygen from the regolith is quite possible but it does require a lot of energy. Sourcing that energy from photovoltaic arrays would require huge solar panel farms which would require shipping a lot of mass to the surface of the moon and this would be expensive to do. However, it could be done using small lightweight modular nuclear reactors i.e. Kilopower Reactors. The bigger problem is that, other than ice, there does not appear to be a readily accessible source of hydrogen on the moon. Being able to mine ice on the moon radically changes the economics of the problem because in addition to providing a source of oxygen it also provides a source of hydrogen and water. Hydrogen is needed on the moon to produce rocket propellant for HYDROX and METHOX rocket engines and for the much higher specific impulse nuclear thermal propulsion systems (high specific impulse means that you do not need as much propellant to obtain the same amount of thrust). If we cannot mine ice on the moon then we we are going to have to take hydrogen with us, which would be much more expensive than extracting it from ice on the moon. Hydrogen itself is bulky, requiring large (i.e. heavier) tanks to move it around, it must be keep very cold, requiring large and heavy cryocoolers, and, because molecules of hydrogen are so small, it tends to leak out of whatever container you attempt to store it in. For this reason, shipping hydrogen to the moon would be easier to do by first combining with carbon to form methane, which is the rocket propellant used by the Raptor engines used by Starship, even though it too needs to be cryo-cooled, although not as much as hydrogen. Better still you could combine it with nitrogen to form ammonia which can be stored under pressure without active cooling. Ammonia could be stored cheaply on the moon by burying the storage containers to protect them from wide fluctuations in surface temperature. The mixture ratio of oxygen to either the hydrogen or methane used by both HYDROX and METHOX chemical rockets is such that most of the mass of the propellant is made up of the oxygen and not the combustible fuel. Even if ice cannot be mined on the moon, for some reason, we can still obtain oxygen on the moon. Because the gravity well of the moon is much less than that of the Earth it would require much less energy to it get into space if it was manufactured on the moon. This makes lunar derived oxygen much cheaper to get into space. The significance of this is that bases WILL be established on the moon if only to obtain oxygen for use as propellant by space vehicles, and for other reasons, regardless of whether we can extract it from lunar ice or not. If we CAN mine ice on the moon then the whole process would be less costly because we would not have to ship hydrogen from Earth, or maybe even from Mars in the form of ammonia to the moon in order to establish sustainable operations there (there does not appear to be any readily available source of nitrogen on the moon either, and you will need nitrogen to grow food on the moon). Because there is no atmosphere on the moon, we are obliged to use a lot of propellant to land on it. Mars does have an atmosphere which allows aerobraking to be used to greatly reduce the amount of propellant required to land on it. For this reason, it requires less delta-V (i.e. propellant), to land on Mars than it does to land on to the moon. This is why those in the know, and those who have done the maths, including Elon Musk and SpaceX, recommend that we forget about the moon and head straight to Mars. All of the resources that we need can be found there, and it is cheaper to get there, even though the voyage would take longer, and if something were to go drastically wrong it would be harder to get back. The greater the risk ... the greater the reward!

[@Gord1812]

Dude you look like younger Doctor Strange. LOL

[@evanlau]

Best space news channel!

[@markwod5490]

"Disaster" is a strong word.

[@TrevyBurgess]

How far away is the pavilion?👽