Spacing Guild Origins - Dune's Mutated Masters Of Interstellar Travel, Controllers Of Spice Trade!

Spacing Guild Origin - Mutated Masters Of Interstellar Travel, Controllers Of Spice Trade In Dune
#dune

[@AdamusPrime76]

Using a thinking machine to narrate why they got rid of thinking machines in Dune hurt my head and makes me understand why they did.

[@sitsutam]

I didn't understand the pronunciation issues at first but now I get it it's an AI voice.

[@sayjinpat4life]

Is that what it is?

[@asant90]

Oh wow i didnt notice

[@Minihopa]

Yeah, makes it a little hard to follow.

[@znotch87]

Why would an AI say Irulean or Ailee?

[@peadar-o]

No, I don’t think so. His voice isn’t robotic.

[@ericstephen1036]

The jihad the narrator went on name pronunciation is legendary😂👏

[@Erox006]

prolly just an AI , Butlerian jihad is close ...

[@dougjones3305]

Also "mentant, and the b'nay gheserat" ? "Presenants"? Ah man he actually finally called it presience as I was typing. Someone isn't a fan of dune and is just reading a script... I'm pretty much the comic book guy from the Simpsons rite now, lol.

[@kentbeitel9966]

David Lynch’s Dune was weird and wild 😂😂 not gonna lie I would wanna try some of the spice melange 😳🥺😂

[@JhonMartinezSoto]

The disrespect of the mispronunciation...

[@Petey_Vee]

Cuz he Butchered the ENTIRE video with his speech and the only thing most “true” dune fans can focus on is his ridiculous pronunciations - that change by the minute fyi! lol. He literally says the same word multiple different, incorrect ways! His struggle with the word “prescient” is REAL! Lmfao. It’s very hard to take this content creator seriously. He’s just wanting to cash in and monetize a “Dune” video with his clickbait title since it’s such a hot topic currently. Smh. C’mon dude. At least ACT like you know the story a little. LOOK UP how to pronounce words before you read your little script. There’s a novel idea! 💡🥴

[@chriscripplercruz1833]

When I was a kid I loved all the "Spice Racks" in this movie lol

[@calvinsuu1949]

"The witch must leave...." 5th level navigator representative upon seeing Gaius Helen Mohiam with the Emperor....

[@AhaanM]

19:39 "Moreover, the Spacing Guild, whose navigators had a monopoly on folded space travel in the Imperium, would not be effected by the loss of Arrakis either." You lost me there, buddy. Weren't the navigators dependent on the Spice Melange for their ability to traverse folded space? Isn't that how Leto 2 got them under control? How would they not be effected by the destruction of Arrakis?!

[@Pharmerlynda]

Love the pic of the movie Sunshine thrown in there of Cillian Murphy…

[@jrharryman32]

im glad to see a clip from "Sunshine" made it into your video about dune at 3:10

[@Petey_Vee]

Ha! Great catch!!!

[@ianchilds6433]

I enjoy the videos and love that you’re covering Dune, but PLEASE get your pronunciations down. It is painful. Some of them are open to interpretation but when you get names wrong and can’t even pronounce Bene Gesserit correctly it hurts your credibility as a knowledgeable content creator. Looking forward to future videos!

[@davidsavage3120]

Their made up words. Also means he learnt all this from reading, not watching other people's interpretations. To my knowledge Frank never said how words were meant to be pronounced.

[@ianchilds6433]

@@davidsavage3120 there are several interviews with Herbert in which he speaks the names and words. I believe Herbert also created documents with phonetics for audio book readers. We could make the argument that it’s thousands of years in the future and dialects change, that Herbert used real languages as his base and anglicized them, or just remind ourselves it’s a book and there’s no need to get up in arms over how someone says stuff. BUT if you’re a content creator looking to monetize views from a fan base at least do your homework and TRY to get the pronunciations right. All I ask.

[@orla2274]

Exactly. This is my main complaint of this channel. Without fail at least one of the words are mispronounced a video. Just proves someone else is doing research on the subject and the person reading couldn't give 2 shits about the topic

[@RathrAhsum]

Prescient is a real word.

[@RathrAhsum]

Yeah, this guy doesn't DUNE. So many mispronounced words. Then stating Paul's "precedent" powers is all the proof I need that this person is not familiar with the basis on the story.

[@PlateletRichGel]

the spice makes humans look like giant floppies

[@jasonhall7491]

It’s an AI generated voice. It’s ironic.

[@NewGoldStandard]

Solid. This was a really informative video. Have a spice, er, I mean, like, from me.

[@stop736]

Was that Tommy Shelby in that suit around 3:12 ?😂

[@Pharmerlynda]

Cilian Murphy in the movie Sunshine-one of my favs…

[@stop736]

@@Pharmerlynda I’ve never seen that actually…I will check this out, he is such a good actor! I’m able to stream just about every movie there is so I’m gonna look this one up. 🙂👍

[@Pharmerlynda]

@@stop736 OMG it’s one of the most underrated sci=fiction movie…. All star cast, you will not be disappointed…. It’s visually beautiful-all about our Sun dying and how earth tries to stop that…

[@stop736]

@@Pharmerlynda I found it!! I’m gonna check it out tonight! Thanks for the recommendation!!

[@DJ_Joe_DC]

Ben-e-jez-er-it….. 🙌🏻

[@zaxzaxx4561]

It should be 'BENnay GESserrit' - not 'JESserit'. It's a Latin phrase meaning 'those who do good' - an ideal title for a group self-serving, manipulative megalomaniacs!

[@user-ov5zm5rz3v]

What does it mean that the guild focused on the mathematical field of human development? I think the guild was focused on interspace transport from the beginning. Mathematics is the language of science. I believe that all scientific theories and laws are possible only through mathematics, that is, only through high-level mathematical conclusions that can connect various variables and one constant. In other words, I think what the guild focused on was the scientific field of human development, especially mathematics, which can express all scientific thinking. This is because before the Butlerian Jihad, the guild had already engaged in interstellar trade, and at first it was clearly aided by machines that imitated human thinking, i.e. AI computers! However, after Butlerian Jihad blocked access to the artificial intelligence needed for space navigation, the guild was forced to calculate complex routes in space navigation using only human power. Here, the guild, which is practically unable to calculate all variables, is trying to respond by reading the future of the route as a trick, so it uses a shortcut that has nothing to do with the mathematical rigor that the guild advocates. In other words, the guild used a method of looking into the future for some of all space navigation options and changing the route using mathematical solutions. This is precisely why the navigator becomes the most important in the guild. Only navigators can see the future, and that only depends on Spice Melange. But let’s raise a question here. The guild consumes a huge amount of spice every year. But is it really used by the entire guild? I am convinced that most of the spice melange consumed by the guild is consumed solely by the guild navigators. Because the guild navigator had to use spice to predict the future, he had to use it in such a huge amount that his body was deformed. In the novel, it is not known how long the transformation of the body actually takes place. In the case of Leto II, it is said that after about 700 to 800 years, it began to take the shape of a sandworm, and after 3,000 years, it almost became Shai Hulud. However, in order to cause a mutation by consuming only spice, the guild navigator must consume most of the enormous amount of spice consumed by the guild. In other words, the life of a guild navigator depends on spice. Guild Navigators, who can survive only through the consumption of spice, are party to the proposition that “spice must flow.” The problem is that the guilds are not the only forces that want this spice melange. All noble houses, including the Corino royal family, wealthy people who want to extend their lifespan even just a little, the Bene Gesserit who risk life and death for enlightenment through spice, and even smugglers who try to profit from the exorbitant price of spice! In fact, if you can just eliminate the guild, a considerable amount of spice will be supplied to the entire universe, and even if it is not the amount you want, you will be able to enjoy a much better amount! However, if the guild is the entity that transports the spice and it is close to impossible to access the spice without going through the guild, the guild can always hold hegemony. Of course, for this purpose, there is no point in the guild occupying Arrakis, the exclusive producer of spice! The reason the guild moves Spice is because Spice is widely used throughout the universe. Therefore, the moment spice becomes the guild's monopoly, the guild becomes a public enemy of the entire universe and is ground to dust. And it becomes the monopoly of the most powerful family in the universe, for example, the Corino family on the Galactic Empire's emperor's throne. And other families will wage endless war to break this monopoly, even if the entire universe is destroyed. Therefore, by not owning Arrakis, it is a guarantee that the guild intends to share the spice melange.

[@carlh-thehermitwithwi-fi679]

may i offer? The Complete Dune Encyclopedia, written with Frank Herbert, his son, and others - is an amazing book to show the universe of these books. The last 40 pages or so have a dictionary of sorts, to define the groups, terms, etc. It also included a PRONUNCIATION KEY. Please look into that.

[@lostfound8112]

Well done for newbies To dune. If a fan i advise read first few books they are mindboggling. I like the 80s movie but the mini series was also well done

[@kevinbourke1847]

The spice

[@khartog01]

must flow.

[@jakkincaid6663]

Pronunciation please… I will help you.

[@ScorpioTear]

Lol

[@JeffreyMiller786]

You got every name except Paul wrong

[@Petey_Vee]

Ha ha! I know right?! 😂

[@cryptohobo4589]

Is it frank herberts if it was written by Brian Herbert and Kevin J. Anderson? The "orange space gas" uh do you mean spice?

[@Nobody-Nowhere]

So lame that they cut all the weird stuff from the new Dune. The original was way better in this sense.

[@nurgle333]

Benay jizzerate

[@SkepticalChris]

I once heard, that the Guild, does not take your orders.

[@judowrestlerka]

And how can this BE? For Denis Villeneuve IS THE Kwisatz Haderach!!!!!!!

[@christopherflux6254]

That guy in your thumbnail pic looks just like Pope Francis

[@fetmar]

Masters of Time and Spice.

[@znotch87]

Irulean? Ailee?

[@JeffMitchell-lv4zx]

So are the guys in the spacesuit & gold visors the engineers?

[@stuartCcash]

I think they are trainee/potential navigators

[@shanenolan5625]

Thanks

[@esvamapp]

there is an assumed maleness to the Navigators and in the Spacing Guild in the films that i am not certain is meant to be from the books

[@user-ky4kg4ry3m]

Quick question: if you are addicted to the spice & Dune & when you stop taking it kills you, if looking forward in time Dune becomes a Eden Like planet would kill all who are already addicted?

[@Fourtune1]

Your question makes no sense

[@MichaTheLight]

3:30 so we all know it already regarding AI but we still just press through.

[@joesmeegle2991]

Wow......

[@roadsidebong6333]

They failed twice now to show navigators

[@ctbignell4003]

How are you using gpt for translation? It's horrible!

[@markanthony1004]

Some people are complaining about the way he pronounces some of the names and words. I haven’t found one thing he’s said wrong here. Except Gesserit and a few others lol

[@0Metatron]

Irulan as Irulean

[@Petey_Vee]

You didn’t listen very closely then… try again. Lmao

[@cinemaipswich4636]

The Guild is like the Italian Medici Family from Florence, in the 1430's.

[@raymondstpaul4913]

One thing that really bothers me about the Dune universe is the Mentats didn't seem extend their trade to teach the rest of Humanity how to perfect the mind. It seems only the rich houses had access to Mentats and after Paul became emperor actually stifled their use. So basically because of religious fanatics Humanity was in another dark age for several thousand years? Yeah I get the prohibition of thinking machines but not to expand the mind; what am I missing here of the illogical reasoning? Please explain for me an others that may have enquired?

[@loisen]

It happened before and it will happen again.

[@thomas261989]

It's a trade secret. That's all!

[@frankhorowitz8341]

Why don’t Guild Navigators have blue eyes?

[@Omenxiiii]

Beneee jeserrit

[@allensaunders449]

I don't think it's possible that all the house's would allow this monopoly forever. Others would of found away to get spice in large quantities to have their own ships. Noway

[@ChrundleTGreat]

Seeing that spice is ONLY found on Arrakis there’s NO WAY (two words) that they could get spice elsewhere. So there is not A WAY (two words again) to get spice other than through Paul Mu”ahdib.

[@Noqtis]

Imagine they sanction all until their fuel runs out and then no one can reach Arrakis but who ever owns Arrakis can reach everyone else. lel

[@0Metatron]

Irulan - I-ru-Lan Bene Gesserit - Bene gEsserit (not Bene jessErit)

[@MKRex]

Padasha not Pashada 😂

[@Talismaniac77]

How many times can you repeat the same information over and over?

[@user-ip5if3zl4o]

How did they get to Iraqis without spice the first time

[@stuartCcash]

they can bend space without the spice but it is risking (1 in 10 destroyed if I remember correctly) flying into a star or planet. they also have sublight and maybe another slower form of FTL (although that could be from another franchise so don't hold me to it).

[@zoranlojanica]

Frank Herbert drew much of his inspiration from Asia, especially Islamic traditions. So, hearing someone attempting to shed some light on one of the many aspects of Dune refer to the title of Padishah as 'pashada' (not even getting into the other pronunciation issues) tells me a lot about the quality of the content. Shame.

[@ChrundleTGreat]

Its like these zoomers haven’t even read the source material or seen any of the movies.

[@adognamedbird]

Your pronunciations are WAY off.. BENNIE JES-ER-AT KWE-ZATS-HAD-ERACK But you get Harkonnen right 🤣

[@mickylove76]

I don’t think the narrator has actually read the books. There are some elementary errors in words and pronunciation.

[@joeyswangeractorandvo6308]

Yeah, you’re right 😅. I was hired to narrate a script on a topic I am unfamiliar with a rapid turnaround. Sorry to disappoint

[@Velereonics]

Why does everyone treat blue in blue as like a term in and of itself? I'm pretty sure it just means that it's a gradients from dark blue to blue, The Herbert didn't want to write "their eyes were a gradient from dark blue to navy" Like blue and blue isn't like heterochromy or something.

[@alexpratt71]

I agree. The pronunciation is horrible

[@Petey_Vee]

“despite Paul’s PRECEDENT abilities.” I guess Paul really knew how to set precedents well! Still, how did he Know the future though without PRESCIENCE?! 😏😜

[@annabella37]

Does your channel need people who can actually read and pronounce words properly? Feel free to let me know. I'm willing to help out for a nominal fee. Too many of your videos have these mispronunciations, and sounds like it's being speed read. If you're using AI - please stop.

[@Queenofgreen515]

The kiwi-zack’s haderach? 😂😂 Sorry but the AI’s crappy pronunciation really ruins the video!

[@ChrundleTGreat]

LEARN HOW TO PRONOUNCE THE NAMES OF PEOPL PLACES AND THINGS IN THE DUNE UNIVERSE BEFORE MAKING YOUR NEXT BIDEO ABOUT IT!

[@BolinFoto]

Ok It's like this If you want me to keep watching these vids then ditch the AI voice or atleast teach it to pronounce the different names correctly We have two movies and a miniseries it's not a secret how the names are pronounced.

[@joeyswangeractorandvo6308]

Not an AI. I was hired to narrate a script on a topic I am unfamiliar with, with a quick turnaround. Sorry to disappoint

[@TheBiggestRig]

​@@joeyswangeractorandvo6308​ Obviously some people are upset about the pronunciation, but for what it's worth despite the mispronunciations your narration was great! Taking the time to learn now to pronounce every word isn't worth your time. You're probably being paid per video not per hour. It wouldn't be worth researching words for every job you get in a new fictional universe. I think the writers/owners of the channel should be writing the words phonetically in brackets for you. It makes way more sense that way. It might be worth mentioning it to the people hiring you. You could swing it from the angle of how the negative feedback will impact THEIR channel. Anyway, great job bro! You did great 👊

[@bomguy999999]

Your enunciation can be maddening.

[@matarr222]

It was Norma Cenva, not Suva. Cheap AI created video. Many mistakes.

[@CryHarder666]

Reading a script I see. Can’t pronounce several names of characters. Just sad.

[@CheerfulTerrier-xe6nn]

Stop using the AI narration, I think you can afford to use a human narrator to😊 as 😅

[@oriolesfan61]

You need to work on your pronunciations

[@Michijere77]

Is this a person or AI? Terrible.

[@dereinzigwahreRichi]

The navigators aren't floating in "space gas", it's spice gas and this way they consume large amounts constantly just by inhaling it. Please do some research and at least try to talk to someone who read the books and check facts, if you don't find the time to read it yourself (which you should!).

[@ChrundleTGreat]

Whoever narrated this video clearly has never read the books or watched any of the movies. Y’all NEVER pronounce all the names correctly.

[@dougjones3305]

Guild Deez nutz to yo face.... I'm so dumb.

[@calvinsuu1949]

Spice these nutz

[@dougjones3305]

@@calvinsuu1949 : ).... Spice Deez nuts hahaha. Mentat'd an image of Deez nuts on their chin. Atradeez nuts in their mouth for going muadiib with dis dick. Man I'm soooooo dumb, lol.

[@dougjones3305]

@@calvinsuu1949 thufer howat dees nuts tasting so far?

[@dougjones3305]

Ibrahim von holtz... Deez nutz for a sec.

[@dougjones3305]

@@calvinsuu1949 ahhh man I just really like your simple "spice Deez nuts" though, lol. Let's keep this going :)

[@jorynickila7760]

I know where it all started. It started with the butlerian Jihad and was because of a short little slightly ugly potato nose looking woman who was the ugly duckling daughter of a beautiful sorceress who was in charge of teaching other sorceresses a technique on how to kill these giant Overlord beings who were extra large brains and jars controlling robot suits protecting these jars. These Titans were basically controlled by an artificial intelligence that they themselves created that unfortunately began to rule them instead of them ruling the universe like they had been for eons. One of these Titans was the father of Vorian Atreides. The same methods to keep these brains essentially Immortal as long as they didn't take damage was given to vorian Atreides and as long as boring and did not incur massive damage he would Stay immortal forever. Now, back to the little potato nose Lady of the Sorceress. This little lady fell in love with a man who created drugs and medicines on his very inhospitable planet and together they came up with new formulas and new medicines and together came up with a scientific method to jump Across the Universe but it was uncontrolled at the time and they didn't know where they would end up. And in an experiment they ended up on arrakis and in doing so they discovered spice long story short some things happened the potato nose girl got tortured by a Titan and under the extreme stress just like Deadpool transformed into a beautiful sorceress like her mother although she was Far Far stronger and Superior to her mother because she was the first one to control the energy burst that kills the Titans. All the other sorceresses being trained to kill the Titans were on suicide missions they knew this. So now potato knows girl is a beautiful sorceress and because through the story that I'm not going to divulge got access to the most refined spice ever created she began to mutate herself and eventually came to live in a tank of this highly refined spice gas and it opened her mind to the point where she could control the vessels where they were going to go and she could see things in the future and she knew things were going to happen eons before it would take place now she is the current head of the spacing Guild and the current head of the Bene Jesuit witches. That's why the witches and the guild work very, very close together in secret, of course. Because they are the ones who are secretly the Puppet Masters and are controlling everything. That is until Frank Herbert's Dune. But we all know how that turns out for the most part anyway. Not many of us knew the story beyond the actual movie. Honest and truly, all the books related to the butlerian Jihad are absolutely amazing! And I highly suggest anyone who is a fan of the Dune series should check them out!!!😊

[@theonlymatthew.l]

It's more like an 'Elseworlds' version seeing as it contradicts a few major points of Frank Herbert's cannon

[@ajm6623]

🙄 Why oh why do Americans want to change how terms and names are pronounced in Dune? Also, its theo-looge-ns not theo-lodge-ens.....

[@yaeldragwyla8170]

I am irked by the frequent mispronunciations of names in this video. Please, *please*, PLEASE read these names carefully as they are written, dammit!

[@ScorpioTear]

Lol

[@Fourtune1]

Clearly the script was written by chat gpt and the narrator hasn’t watched the movies or even clips on the movies. Not watching this lazy video.

[@mtpstv94]

I don't care how close to the original material the new movie is. The movie sucked and the acting is dry, nonexistent and amateur. Everything about the movies minus the visuals is fucking horrendous. Forcing myself through that movie was like watching paint dry. Those actors didn't even act and if we're rating them versus the actors in the original Dune movie (which was full of very high class wonderful actors who actually acted) they would get an F at most.

[@robinski199]

They literally hired the best actors on the planet for the new movie …you don’t think the acting is exceptional when Paul and his mom were in the tent and Paul sees the vision of a huge universal religious war in the name of his dead father? At this moment Paul realizes his visions are actually seeing the future, watching his mom painfully absorb her actions in, without Paul knowing or wanting, raising Paul to be the leader of this religious war…excellent acting…

[@BettyWhiteTheVibratorSlayer]

Um yeah uh really not worried abot A.I. taking over anymore if they have learning disabilities like this one, I read Dune in 4th grade, do better, even Brian Herbert didn't screw it up this bad. 😢

[@joeyswangeractorandvo6308]

Thanks for that. Not an AI. Just a narrator who was hired to voice a script on a topic I am unfamiliar with, with a quick turnaround. Sorry to disappoint

[@jimholland886]

Your pronunciation is so bad I had to leave the post half way through.

[@dickdastardly5534]

So does this mean all the bums around my home town knocking back spice, will instead of being social undesirables will mutate into astronauts with super powers 😳