Spain, Kimi onboard during QFY Q1 and Q2 - 10/05/2014

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@allamericandude15
@allamericandude15 10 жыл бұрын
That thing has the handling qualities of a shopping cart.
@Hiimbald12
@Hiimbald12 9 жыл бұрын
***** hahahaha good that one
@IMrIMike
@IMrIMike 9 жыл бұрын
Hate the ones with the steering wheels on the front.Gets me everytime.This is how Kimi must have felt in that car
@ssssssssssssssssss50
@ssssssssssssssssss50 9 жыл бұрын
Going into corners with this Ferrari is like playing the slot machines, you really can't now what's gonna happen
@d_p2177
@d_p2177 5 жыл бұрын
Just look at this and then Vetter's best time from testing this year. What a huge difference....night and day, even though different rules, etc.
@smellymewi
@smellymewi 10 жыл бұрын
I really don't know what is the problem with Ferrari this year. Having 2 former world champions in 2 shitty car won't help the team win anything.
@th0m4ss48
@th0m4ss48 3 жыл бұрын
Now u know it's better than sf1000
@oaz8
@oaz8 3 жыл бұрын
@@th0m4ss48 sf1000 only need power unlike this one
@joemercedeschannel196
@joemercedeschannel196 24 күн бұрын
​@@th0m4ss48 The SF1000 was in fact a bit better in terms of handling in corners. It just needed a bit more engine power.
@santiagoabascal9483
@santiagoabascal9483 8 жыл бұрын
That thing was undriveable
@Jasonnf1
@Jasonnf1 9 ай бұрын
I could watch this all day
@glentot9243
@glentot9243 10 жыл бұрын
damn.. must be frustrating if you have to push the steering wheel from the bottom.. just to complete a turn.. imagine what goes through kimi's head when in a dog fight battling for lines..
@Jejking
@Jejking 10 жыл бұрын
Understeer everywhere, also some bits of snap oversteer on the way out and not even on a consistent basis. That Ferrari is absolutely nowhere.
@TheHJC95
@TheHJC95 10 жыл бұрын
I agree. Watching his onboard footage from 2012-2013 it is clear that he prefers the car to be set up for a more responsive front end turning in while allowing the rear end to be more lively exiting the corner. Lotus was able to give that to him but Ferrari has given him exactly the opposite. It must be frustrating.
@NationOfMasturbation
@NationOfMasturbation 9 жыл бұрын
***** Alonso is boring.
@daveg5015able
@daveg5015able 9 жыл бұрын
yep there is lot of hesitation to kick the throttle i never seen him like this :(
@Spinodontosaurus
@Spinodontosaurus 9 жыл бұрын
***** You would be hard pressed to find any driver that *wants* a car as skittish and unpredictable as the F14T was. Alonso is simply able to adapt to such cars much better than Raikkonen, in addition to quite clearly being a stronger driver anyway.
@Jejking
@Jejking 9 жыл бұрын
What do you mean with stronger? If the car is exactly how Kimi wants it, I doubt there are many drivers who will beat him. Too bad that the sweet spot is narrow. Felipe is a confidence driver, Kimi needs the car to work with him, Alonso just gets on with it and indeed adapts better.
@VideosNoOne
@VideosNoOne 10 жыл бұрын
that car is such a piece of shit.. Alonso and Kimi deserve way better
@v6i838
@v6i838 5 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one who has a soft spot for this car? I’m aware it’s absolutely terrible, it there’s just something I love about it.
@ciaronsmith4995
@ciaronsmith4995 4 жыл бұрын
This car had some poor handling characteristics, especially the front end, which was nonexistent.
@rlb4403
@rlb4403 4 жыл бұрын
I loved the engine sound
@v6i838
@v6i838 4 жыл бұрын
Anónimo rlb Me too! Even though I know I shouldn’t
@florian_geier
@florian_geier 3 жыл бұрын
No I also liked it a lot. Just a shame it was so bad. It had perhaps the best ever driver line-up (in my view).
@cryptofierce7431
@cryptofierce7431 2 жыл бұрын
@@rlb4403 It’s so muffled haha like “mubulubulnaiuehrjskam”
@TEMPLE7D
@TEMPLE7D 3 ай бұрын
Love how you can hear the electronic turbo whistling off throttle.
@ciprianiordache6747
@ciprianiordache6747 9 жыл бұрын
Bravo Kimi!!!
@_-_.7
@_-_.7 9 жыл бұрын
Just watched a v10 Ferrari and clicked on this, my heart just fell on my lap and said where did it all go wrong?
@tferraz5088
@tferraz5088 3 жыл бұрын
That sound is good too
@kristiansuljic6940
@kristiansuljic6940 9 жыл бұрын
the front end doesen't bite at all...am i wrong?
@cannyfocus
@cannyfocus 10 жыл бұрын
Kimi if you read this :) [here is just an Idea]: Try using less steer ratio (change your 'steering-gearbox' setup for the car), so that you need a little bit less input degrees on the steering wheel for turning the front wheels. Maybe that will help as well. - This wheel ratio looks awfully less responsive, as if the steer ratio is set to 14:1 or even 15:1 instead 13:1, 12:1 or 11:1 for example. - I don't think mechanics at Ferrari haven't already thought of that or tried that, but who knows.. ;). Since years as I watched Alonso drive in the Ferrari, I always thought and still think that he/or the Ferrari uses 'much' higher steer ratio than the other drivers. I mean: As if Ferrari uses 14:1 instead 11:1 steer ratio for example. And here in this vid. Kimi seems (unfortunately) to have/use the same steer ratio setup as Alonso uses since years, which might not fit to Kimi but 'only' Alonso.. . Seems to be a Ferrari issue though, because already in 2008's onboards I can see the same 'wrong' steer ratio setup. -Also when I compare other teams/cars of past years and also current other teams/cars of 2014 on same/certain corners for 'exact' comparision, they all or at least generally seem to use more like the 11:1 ratio way as the 14:1 (Alonso or Ferrari only) ratio way. (I don't know the exact values used in the steering-gearbox of course, I just make examples, but you know what I try to say or to explain.)
@cannyfocus
@cannyfocus 9 жыл бұрын
+Dominic Timm Y, of course. That's the same I wanted to write already just seconds before I read your answer :). If this was a problem, they would've known (by feeling this by themselfes, techincally, data-like) in this professional sport.
@michelecompagno4861
@michelecompagno4861 9 жыл бұрын
The handling is embarazing. Fortunately it's all past
@James-nh1su
@James-nh1su 7 жыл бұрын
agree.. i'm from the future about one year ahead
@sharathnathan6339
@sharathnathan6339 4 жыл бұрын
Well look what we've come to HAHA
@FedeAguirre24
@FedeAguirre24 Жыл бұрын
0:45 / ¡WHAT!
@Skywalker1274
@Skywalker1274 Жыл бұрын
What u on about
@Jasonnf1
@Jasonnf1 9 ай бұрын
I always loved this part. Tyre warming!
@23delpaN
@23delpaN 10 жыл бұрын
Car isn't going full throttle in the straight lines ...
@yourproplem123
@yourproplem123 10 жыл бұрын
yes it is
@markustigane5876
@markustigane5876 4 ай бұрын
😊❤❤😊
@ciaronsmith4995
@ciaronsmith4995 5 жыл бұрын
Kimi is faster than Alonso when Kimi has the setup he needs. This car just understeered ridiculously and was opposite to Kimi's driving style. Just look at these onboards ie 3:45. Combined with the super hard tyres, Alonso got lucky, plain and simple. He didn't face Kimi anywhere near at his best. Prime Kimi >>> Alonso.
@rutar2008
@rutar2008 5 жыл бұрын
That's a very bullshit excuse.
@laterreta9734
@laterreta9734 4 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha
@ciaronsmith4995
@ciaronsmith4995 4 жыл бұрын
@@laterreta9734 Exactly my reaction after Fuji 2007.
@ciaronsmith4995
@ciaronsmith4995 4 жыл бұрын
@@rutar2008 It's not actually. It's fact based on their driving styles.
@laterreta9734
@laterreta9734 4 жыл бұрын
@@ciaronsmith4995 With a damaged and sabotaged car he almost overtook your crush, bad example from you buddy, and I don' t wanna remember the 2006 Hungarían GP where even De La Rosa was being quicker than your crush
@khairulridhuan8945
@khairulridhuan8945 5 ай бұрын
how can the car handling this bad?
@cibaca1
@cibaca1 10 жыл бұрын
good luck, Kimi, at least beat your teammate :)
@kaduuu8357
@kaduuu8357 Жыл бұрын
:/
@Mformularacer
@Mformularacer 7 жыл бұрын
that car was just awful.
@philiplairdese8860
@philiplairdese8860 Ай бұрын
Robinson Steven Robinson Linda Davis Brenda
@dexon777
@dexon777 9 жыл бұрын
car sound disgusting
@ciaronsmith4995
@ciaronsmith4995 7 жыл бұрын
This confirms Alonso is an overrated qualifier. Despite driving a car that was completely opposite to Kimi's preferences, he still out qualified Alonso at Spain. Kimi has not been comfortable with any of the cars since 2014, and I reckon Kimi in a McLaren would have been half a second quicker around here than Nando. I am not so easily fooled!!
@NikhilSinghtherock
@NikhilSinghtherock 7 жыл бұрын
Who's alonso btw ? The one who is behind vandoorne in the championship ?
@CiverBeats
@CiverBeats 7 жыл бұрын
Nikhil Singh Alonso fangirls are funny
@ciaronsmith4995
@ciaronsmith4995 6 жыл бұрын
You clearly know NOTHING about F1 driving styles and the mechanics of what is behind a drivers performance. Are you knew to motorsport viewing? Sounds like it. Raikkonen is the fastest when he likes his equipment. Its hard work to get the setup right, but when it is, hes peerless.
@piedra16kr7
@piedra16kr7 6 жыл бұрын
@@NikhilSinghtherock Yep, that one who has outqualified Vandoorne in all races in 2018
@ciaronsmith4995
@ciaronsmith4995 5 жыл бұрын
@MrStig691 Kimi Raikkonen at his best with equipment he likes, is a faster driver than Alonso. No doubt. www.formula1.com/en/latest/features/2014/5/With-Ayrton-in-mind---the-F1-paddock-on-Senna.html Read Brundle's last paragraph first. "Kimi has speed, but not Senna's application". What does this mean and why mention Kimi? First of all Kimi Raikkonen is a driver who has a much narrower performance window than Fernando. Kimi's ultimate speed is quicker than Alonso, but not as adaptive. That doesn't change the fact than on MICHELIN TYRES (remember this), Kimi was totally unstoppable. His manipulation of the front end of the car from a driving perspective allowed him to preserve his rear tyres and carry far more corner speed than any other driver I have ever seen. EVER. Kimi needs his front tyres to be up to temperature and to have minimal understeer in the car to allow this highly specific driving style to work. When Michelin left F1, the tyre war ended and the Bridgestone Control tyre was introduced in 2007 (his first year at Ferrari). Also, in-season testing was restricted during this period, making it much harder to change the setup through a season. These Bridgestone control tyres had massive understeer over one lap and early stint in a race. This is PRECISELY why Kimi was so bad at quali after Michelin left - he could never get the fronts warmed up over one lap and suffered from terminal understeer. But in the races he was peerless. In 2008, one of his worst seasons, he still set a RECORD FOR MOST FASTEST LAPS IN A SEASON (10). That is insane. Much quicker race pace than Alonso or Massa at Ferrari. This was because the balance of the Bridgestone tyres shifted midway through a race, and as they became more worn with lighter fuel the handling shifted away from understeer. Again. Narrow performance window, but when you hit it, Kimi is unstoppable. When Kimi returned to F1, Pirelli had a soft tyre but after the tyre changes at Silverstone 2013, Pirelli imposed a MUCH HARDER tyre with tyre pressure and camber limits which severly destroyed Raikkonen's driving style. Before that tyre change, Kimi was second in the WDC. Suddenly, Kimi was having handling problems again, and until today the Pirelli tyres have remained the same. 2014 was the combination of ridiculously hard tyres, with a pull-rod front suspension (that purposely induces understeer, clearly suited for Alonso's driving style which requires minimal front end - used only on 2001 Minardi before that), and a rookie engineer Spagnolo who was fired. One look at his onboards will show how many handling issues were in that car. Kimi Raikkonen's peak at McLaren, with Michelin tyres was just scary. He would have EASILY won the 2003 and 2005 WDC if not for horrible reliability and bad luck, and his work in a McLaren for half a decade is as good as any driver I have seen in his era. To me, his peak was better than anything Alonso ever did. And for that I put Lewis 1, Kimi 2 THEN FERNANDO 3. Considering how Fernando, in a car he loved, in an era he loved, lost to Trulli and was generally always slower than Kimi on raw pace.
@darkrider8442
@darkrider8442 10 жыл бұрын
very bad driving from kimi... never expected this from Pro driver.!!!
@sharathnathan6339
@sharathnathan6339 10 жыл бұрын
Think you can do better with a car that doesnt suit you and one's that underpowered?
@sharathnathan6339
@sharathnathan6339 10 жыл бұрын
And btw this was where kimi outqualified alonso..So if youre telling me this was bad driving what abt alonso?
@ALIENdrifter66
@ALIENdrifter66 10 жыл бұрын
Libra Scale what about alonso, he just simpli won kimi in most qually and race resoults, kimi is driving bad this year and the car just doesn't go
@sharathnathan6339
@sharathnathan6339 10 жыл бұрын
ALIENdrifter66 Its politics my friend..Same reason why managed to outdo massa
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