Spamzo vs Assassin Hanzo: Which one is better in Overwatch 2?

8000+ hours of Hanzo experience, showcasing two matches to compare the benefits of spamming vs aiming.
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[@Arrge]

KZbin algo been punishing me for making the videos "too short" so here is a THICC Long video!

[@mr.n33dful25]

This really helped clear up my blue balls thanks Arrge

[@blackgokuxyz7889]

THICC LIKE U BOY

[@galactician]

Great video. Happy holidays from Seattle!

[@kja1217]

perfect for my edging session, thanks arrge!

[@reverently]

15-20 min seems to be the perfect length (plus we all love longer videos ofc)

[@shayes.x]

2:34 This small decision also reinforces corner fundamentals. Climbing the left side would require you to either drop back down or retreat across the doorway to cover, whilst climbing the right side allows you to use that corner as cover to both mask your shots and stay safe.

[@antimah4707]

I wanna map tier list so much Arrge please do this

[@FlareOW]

Yes I need this 😩

[@aisthesis_]

yessss

[@loganbridges204]

I personally prefer the more uncut gameplay. Seeing what you do between opportunities for shots is interesting. Thanks Arrge!!

[@hig6775]

Tier list video would be awesome, go for it!

[@JohnDough-mq8uy]

Great vid Arrge! One of my biggest things i need to improve on as hanzo is positioning and i think a map tier list would be perfect to tell as to when to play like a spamzo or sneak around like an assassin

[@FlareOW]

Fr

[@jmgonzales7701]

i think assasin type of hanzo is more efficient, idk how u can be efficient with spamzo.

[@yaitari]

That Wifeleaver was a goat

[@El1as--]

I like these kind of videos more cause its easier to learn from than just highlight clips that are way harder to learn from.

[@WheezyWrld]

Love the longer vids bro please more

[@bbott137]

Map tier list for spam would be cool but also in general, which maps you like and why, you like certain angles/etc.

[@stevenzajac2286]

Cool breakdown of the two playstyles, especially the tidbit about how doing more damage isn't necessarily a good thing as it gives opponents more opportunity to build ult. A map tier-list with the playstyles they lend themselves to sounds great.

[@jmgonzales7701]

i think assasin type of hanzo is more efficient, idk how u can be efficient with spamzo.

[@LuisSRamos-jy5ul]

Arrge, I do not care if you over edit your videos or just make quicker highlights out of matches, as long as you keep doing you style of paying attention to the little things for comedic effects, like you slowing down the music when you choke or the rewinding you did with El Wiwi saving you from Rein, I'll be a happy viewer of the Master Assasin Hanzo.

[@ETBCOR]

Agreed 💯

[@m88_overwatch]

Would be nice to compare both styles on the same map. King's row is a very good spam map in general

[@FlareOW]

Yea that would be a good idea

[@Fuge0910]

Thank you for disclosing this problem, it always a tug of war on what playstyle is the best and your vids does shows a lot . Always a big fan of Hanzo, and much respect to you to dedicate to Hanzo in both plays and character. Also your laugh at lowercase is adorable haha

[@jmgonzales7701]

i think assasin type of hanzo is more efficient, idk how u can be efficient with spamzo.

[@Deprece]

I never really thought about my playstyle but this explains why I always tend to have a lot less damage on Hanzo compared to other DPS or even Hanzo players in general. My Elims and Final Blows tend to be high though with that low damage. It explains a lot. It also explains why I tend to have way more damage on King’s Row specifically

[@jmgonzales7701]

i think assasin type of hanzo is more efficient, idk how u can be efficient with spamzo. What style do you play as?

[@cloudyplacebo7456]

the Rein threw that second game so hard

[@dustyDustmop]

What a miserable time to be a rein main in the mauga meta

[@emilior934]

That Rein sucked ass 😂 GM doing silver plays. Pushing alone. Greedy with the shield. Pushing a 1v5. I feel bad for that Ana/Zen. Can't do shit if the tank is greedy with its resources, and still wants to be healed 😂😂😂 Literally no Reason for him to push alone other than trolling.

[@nateporter2298]

That rein had to be a purchased account. The lack of game sense was insane

[@Dissectionator]

If everyone is a paid actor from the second match, then the Lifeweaver needs a raise

[@Chumley-yr1jg]

Man this video is great. I’m currently gold 2 DPS. I used to play a ton of OW1 but never comp. Just started playing OW2 again a few months ago and am getting slammed in comp but do fine in quick play. This video is great because you show what you’re doing before, during, and after the plays which helps me a ton. It’s little stuff I wouldn’t have even thought about or known you could do. Great video!

[@flimpo8257]

less edited or more edited im gonna watch them all

[@aattia322]

LMFAOO those slow-mos when rein is charging you

[@Nova_Supa]

Arrge thank you always for the educational vids! Wishing you a Merry Christmas from the US

[@simplystimpy7284]

Been trying to explain this to my friends for a while now. I'll just link this now.

[@Nova_Supa]

Mad respect to the genji not crying like magia after you destroyed him

[@ETBCOR]

I was very entertained by your over the top edits, but I kinda guessed that they weren't great for retention. Just letting you know that the previous style was not completely lost on your audience, and that the uncut style will be accepted just as well

[@zachklimmer4648]

arrge doing old gameplay commentary style videos would go hard

[@bonodienoes8993]

Ill definitely live a map tier list vod

[@loginiman]

11:10 I’m sorry what is that rein thinking? Is he trying to…“block” the ult?! With his shield?!?

[@loginiman]

12:06 yeah he must be bronze for thinking he can 1v3 against 2 supports and a dps. that is already a loosing battle.

[@LeanLife4U]

I love the new Hanzo Voiceline “My enemies fall like…snowflakes.

[@andrey700100]

Do a tier list pls

[@CallumDT]

10/10 video thoroughly enjoyed all of it. Keep doing that!

[@Arrge]

More to come!

[@CallumDT]

@@Arrge woo

[@knyt0]

2:10 kiriko survived because of maugas overdrive giving 30% resistance

[@manubiondo5713]

I would love a map tier list

[@Theregulersonicfan]

You are so smart I wish I could think like you I just do things with out thinking that’s why I’m stuck in plat 1

[@brunomkchave9415]

Please do a map ranking for hanzo

[@LittlePotato.]

I understand why you decided you'll edit videos less but btw I really enjoyed them

[@kokopoop77]

“ i wont be doing crazy edits, so what you see is what you get” me: damn far enough LIIIIKKKKKEEEE

[@mariodiaz2449]

Ive found a lot of success by starting off the round as spamzo then once they think Im going to be doing that all game I switch to more assassin style

[@peterjeavons4003]

Map tier list would be goated!

[@nickcrawford2456]

Man, I know the Rein in that King's Row game was absolutely punching the air after being denied two pins in a row by a Lifeweaver pull, lol.

[@Damian_3005]

i would say i have good aim but some games i dont hit even one shot, but I allways say to myself that there was no one to shot at to get a clean headshot. And now my question should i say to myself that i am not good and i have to train more or what should i do ?

[@BoliceOccifer]

11:54 This is why Reinhardt players are clinically depressed

[@minh9625]

i really wanna see arrge match up with vulture on enemy team to see who's better hanzo headshot or junkrat oneshot combo

[@angelcake7077]

I’ll miss your crazy silly edits, but to be honest I enjoy your content for you and for your gameplay, so I’m okay with either ^^ especially if the new style is easier on you!

[@blackgokuxyz7889]

3:25 boys gimme this song name

[@mayorsergio96]

ilyr videos bro, thanks

[@justinpark939]

Which one is better? Which ever is expected to be more effective in progressing/stalling the objective. For eg spamzo is consistent so during the start of a payload cap, where the advantages are offensive sided, the added risk with less added benefit may make assasin style less incentavised. As you progress the objective you may need to run assasin style to generate some more off angling pressure and get key picks when taking space without picks is not as ideal. However since I havent tested this in game (and I not at your skill level/skill set atm) I am not quite sure if you can apply assassin vs spamzo in relation to objective progression with adequate accuracy. And I am plat 2 peak dps so maybe take this with caution. But the take home messgae is: we should aim to compare decisions in relation to objective taking/holding potential and know when to make the most optimal ones to our knowledge, to maximise our chances of winning. (This was edited to add some things, clarify others, and to replace language that assumed that self credentials provoides validity in the quality of the arguement)

[@StealthBomber422]

I would love to see a map tier list video it will definitely help me in the long run. Also, what is your crosshair I really like it. Im still learning the Sonic trick you did i usually throw them to far lmao.

[@henrylacock9480]

bro, I play as both in one game and just hope for the best

[@Htiy]

Personally I am more effective with spamzo. Flankzo helped me out bronze-gold but spamzo is helping me creep to gm

[@jmgonzales7701]

i think assasin type of hanzo is more efficient, idk how u can be efficient with spamzo.

[@Tyzilla0130]

Biggest takeaway I got from this was that no matter how good you may be at hanzo, whether you’re the top hanzo in the world or paper plate IV, everyone has shit dragons sometimes

[@waspsessions]

I asked you about it one of these days in your stream. Personally i think spamzo brings more value to the team, and its pretty satisfying to see more damage being done with hanzo.

[@kingmoosh2004]

i agree spamzo is unfortunately stronger but flankzo is so much more fun

[@me_rinta]

Rein was def throwing in the second match

[@danielkassie5650]

Nah these are the kind of vids I prefer tbh

[@thekingmeruem]

That rein have to be trolling

[@dhruvg8472]

we will miss those insane short videos.... 😣

[@kamdenwarren7568]

I have absolutely no idea what accent this is but you sound like bane from that one animated show about Harley Quinn

[@JoVee003]

can u do an ult guide pls?

[@TomMorello725]

I need this kind of videos for other heroes. Your content is very good, I am not a Hanzo main (even not a fan) but I am playing this character more often :D

[@FlareOW]

As a Hanzo main that’s acc nice to hear that you have been playing him more just bc of arrge

[@CJMattias]

Ow is dead to me. I still watch you though. And I definitely love the vids that require work... 😂

[@lotion7004]

could you show the sonic lineup you did on the bridge as like a tut with other lineups like that, if you havent already?

[@Arrge]

its not a lineup, you just eyeball those. its not that difficult after you have done it 5-10 times per match for a week straight

[@thebrota]

Do you maybe use toggle primary fire or its not worthy?

[@LuminoX688]

16:59 That would be helpful, so im down for it

[@solacedagony1234]

I'm glad you mentioned about the 69% (nice) more damage from spamzo that is causing the healers to get loads of ult charge. People seem to often arbitrarily say "I'm better than you, look at my damage" without understanding what the stats actually indicate.

[@IDKImNotFunny]

If your good, you know the map you got a big brain, go assasin, if your a little bit challanged, just work on your aim and do some geometric spams down a crowded areas

[@davidmunoz9732]

So it's not good to do more player damage as hanzo pls explain

[@ryannole6138]

I feel like if a whole team is grouped together spam is better bur of they are spread out playing angles aim is better.

[@lightingphoenix]

how do i get better if I'm under presser

[@SamOliver4]

What music did you use for this video?

[@MaverickJames-rd7nm]

top 5 list of counters to genji 5. zarya 4. symetra 3. moira 2. 1 damage (i need healing) 1. lamp post

[@armando5994]

you forgot brig and random junkrat spam

[@Onqotkarlovo]

Why not both?

[@Juan_Pablo21]

What level are y’all on hanzo progression im level 48

[@Arrge]

48 too!

[@blub579]

Why did everyone in the first game have that weird XX-SOMENAME name pattern?

[@n7assault392]

It's a thing you can toggle that hides everyone's real user

[@blub579]

@@n7assault392 ah I see, thanks!

[@aisthesis_]

69% extra damage. Nice ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡° )

[@Ba4rden]

What's up with the account names in the first match?

[@n7assault392]

There's a setting that turns all names into like streamer names, it just hides everyone's real user

[@b0ttomG]

Spamzo vs Aimzo

[@NEBUL4]

no editor nor chat??

[@Trapremix_ow]

I like spamzo play style I don’t have the patience or the aim for assassin hanzo play style

[@Thermalfusi0n]

based mcree gang vs virgin cassidy callers

[@Summonick2]

Assassin hanzo lost value as seasons went on in overwatch. Pressure is too common place now, so lapses in pressure is now a much greater inherent risk. The window for hanzo to position and get sneaky picks is smaller than ever, which puts more pressure on hanzo. However, with mauga meta, this might change this season

[@scorpiond1199]

What is u playlist

[@systemincorrect8024]

Watching this now is so sad. There's no assassin hanzo. Blizzard make him a joke that requires pocket now

[@talalmansour2139]

Hanzo headshots so satisfying

[@luchosomango]

Whats up with the battletags?

[@n7assault392]

A toggleable setting, hides everyone's real user

[@luchosomango]

@@n7assault392 thanks !

[@JoelHernandez-ws3hv]

Spamzo or Assanzo

[@roonion1279]

But Arrge how do we know that spamzo truly is bad when YOU are the one using both? Afterall, you are more use to the assassin one at this point so they would be nearly different classes to you now right? The only way to truly know is if you went back in time mastered 8K hours of Spamzo and THEN fought yourself!!!

[@TimothyBeane2]

What are the names of his smurfs? Anyone?

[@n7assault392]

They're pre much all streamer mode names

[@N-tox]

I lov u arrge

[@gusxi3931]

I was assasin hanzo all the time

[@mikejowan3340]

Hanzo is a sneakier widowmaker. Even if you miss a shot, often players wont even hear it and you cam go for another

[@armando5994]

hanzo footsteps are also quieter to hear than widow’s loud ass high heels

[@Auxilience]

Like if you knew lifeweaver existed before that

[@henrystickman4349]

Here's a comment to help boost the algo

[@lucasg131]

Arrge, you clearly showed you love for the assassin style, "If i do more damage and the same number of kills they get more ult". And you don't get more charge? You do not apply more pressure with 60% more damage? The conclusion to with one is better is simple, It depends, on the map,the alies, and the enemy. Like you said in some games you have to be both to progress, and that is how i play. And Arrge, this is a fucking vídeo game, just play the way you have more fun.

[@notknownlogic4161]

i noticed that both playstyles are also junkrat playstyles.

[@janosszilagyi1929]

Algosuppcomm🎉🎉🎉😂😂❤❤

[@dreamy106]

always mccree and not cassidy in my heart lol

[@rainbowunicornnun]

I'm gonna miss the rated C for cringe edits, but totally understandable. I still watch all your videos anyway :D

[@Arrge]

Sadge, me too. always laughing my ass off at 4 AM editing that stuff LMAO

[@Arniii122]

hola

[@whatzituya55]

That's too bad you're not doing the cool edited videos anymore. That shit always had me dead

[@F0rDz36]

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