Sparta & Athens Vs Persian Empire: Battle of Plataea 479 BC | Cinematic

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@JusticeRyan-n6d
@JusticeRyan-n6d 11 ай бұрын
Congradulations! You're doing a great job putting these different battles together.i really like the Spartans and the Roman soldiers the best.
@WarAndHistory.
@WarAndHistory. 11 ай бұрын
Thanks friend plenty more to come including the battle of yarmuk
@hamidrezaa8230
@hamidrezaa8230 10 ай бұрын
There is no more Rome. But the Persians occupied an empire four times. Now they have a very big country called Iran.
@reynoman4964
@reynoman4964 7 ай бұрын
😅​@@WarAndHistory.
@Mughal-o7w
@Mughal-o7w 4 ай бұрын
That was modern
@AmdiArif
@AmdiArif 4 ай бұрын
Fake story.they were ilyrijan not grek.
@RisenfromChrace
@RisenfromChrace Жыл бұрын
Does anyone else feel the bird flying over the left flank moments before the clash was a nice touch. Spectacular capture for sure.
@GeorgeDoughty-m8e
@GeorgeDoughty-m8e Жыл бұрын
I automatically thought "buzzard."
@dchngphm
@dchngphm Жыл бұрын
Definitely a nice touch. Very reminiscent of the Gaugamela scene from Alexander!
@ΒαγγεληςΝοτης
@ΒαγγεληςΝοτης Жыл бұрын
The eagle was the bird of Zeus
@CrimsonA1
@CrimsonA1 3 күн бұрын
Didn't crows and other birds follow human armies so they could feast on their corpses after the battle?
@JeddieT
@JeddieT Жыл бұрын
This was a very, very good accounting of the Battle of Platea. What I loved was how you put the strategies and tactics above the chaos and mayhem - as so many other battle videos do. We always knew and understood exactly what was going on and when. The layout of the land, the abilities and strengths of each side, and how the beginning, middle, and end of the fight unfolded, were a success. Aerial views are critical to making sense of any real battle and in this video there were no shortages of them. This alone made the entire battle landscape beautifully real. Nicely done and I thank you for this.
@parambhatia3183
@parambhatia3183 Жыл бұрын
In
@AwoudeX
@AwoudeX Ай бұрын
very good? mkay, then there should be little errors like for example the main used formation: phalanx, where their line of infantry would push into the other infantry and the side that buckled would end up retreating and lose horribly. It showed individual fighting and not fighting in formation, using superior armor and covering each other with shields as would have been done in that fight. to conclude, it wasn't even good, let alone very very good as you stated because of the lack of accuracy. It was mediocre at best.
@trob1731
@trob1731 Жыл бұрын
Even being part of such a huge army, that "wall of bronze" walking quietly and steadily towards you had to be intimidating.
@UGTLDG
@UGTLDG Жыл бұрын
Well said. Before the battle of Cunaxa, mercenary phalagists nearly drove off their allies, at a demo, their employer Cyrus being one of the very few to keep their cool! Many levy and several household troops run off the parade ground!! But as military performance and experience goes in antiquity, Romans are always the benchmark. Well, one of their seasoned generals, Aemillius Paulus, scored a huge victory against the Greeks at Pydna, centuries later. Albeight knowing its weaknesses, and knowing what had to be done, he later recalled that he never saw a sight in his life as amazing and as dreadfull, as the advance of the phalanx towards him! Imagine the clueless fighter of the first rank(s) who had to deal with the thing.......
@kalbarnes2494
@kalbarnes2494 Жыл бұрын
The phalanx was virtually unstoppable in frontal combat. But by that point the Roman military discarded the phalanx formation in the last Samnite war, as the terrain made it unsuitable. What they came up with was the remarkably flexible manipular legion. The maniples were an organizational innovation that changed the course of history imo. This flexibility allowed legions to easily be formed into smaller or larger units as necessary to changing battlefield conditions. This made their battles with the Greeks and Macedonians something they were uniquely suited to win, as once they were able to outmaneuver it, a phalanx became useless.
@UGTLDG
@UGTLDG Жыл бұрын
@@kalbarnes2494 Indeed, the manipular system the Romans introduced, took maneuverabillity to a whole new level. Company level teams acting independently during a large battle, was something war history never saw again till about WW1! But the phalanx didn't become useless immediately. Hanibal, Pyrus and others, beat the Romans several times using it; the Romans themselves used it in rare occations (the Triarii spearmen were probably in phalanx formation, the testudo was a form of phalanx not suitable to attack, and they tried to remember how it was meant to work at the battle of Cannae and some others after the republic); and we see it reemerging as cavalry becomes more efficient, later Roman armies abandoning manipular formations alltogether. Boar formations, schiltrons, and shieldwalls were medieval equivelents of the phalanx, as where the later pike formations (tercios e.a.) that dominated the European battlefields, untill gunpowder weapons made them obsolete by the 18th century. And we can still find later yet revivals, in the Austrian "battalion mass", the French "column of attack", and the "compact square" formations several armies used to repell cavalry.
@martinthrone7012
@martinthrone7012 Жыл бұрын
Intimidated or not as a soldier you had to stand your ground if you panicked & tried to run you'd be killed for cowardice so? you was effectively going to die either in battle by the enemy or? by your own men for trying to run away
@UGTLDG
@UGTLDG Жыл бұрын
@@martinthrone7012 Only in "professional" armies an IF you were meant to stand your ground. I guess that, yeah, if you retreated before making contact, you would be in serious trouble. But I also guess THAT thought wouldn't be particulary reassuring at the moment. Yet, nobody would blame a skirmisher or a horseman, or a rookie for backing away. That's why usually firstrankers were seasoned soldiers, the equivalent of modern NCO's, each in command of a whole file (anything between 4 to 16 fighters). Still, armies backed away or even broke away all the time. In Greek military terminology, the word "trophy" meant the monument erected at the exact spot where the enemy line broke. While the word for coward was "drop-shield", implying that you intented to run faster than an armed enemy. But if the formation was broken, it would be pointless to try fixing it, or to fight-on individually. Usually the disrupted side would run away, more or less in good order. Cohesion meant the world in these short of "formation" battles. Nothing like we see in movies: if ever a side broke ranks to fight man to man, the game was over!
@calebnolan4726
@calebnolan4726 Жыл бұрын
Persians: Hey, Greece, do you want to be conquered? Greeks: No Persians: I've got a big army, Greeks: NO Persians: I've got a bigger army now! Sparta: This. is. Sparta!
@user-ep3ck5re4o
@user-ep3ck5re4o Жыл бұрын
Spartans Rule 👌💪💪
@shahriarp9928
@shahriarp9928 Жыл бұрын
Xerses I 💪
@FathomMane
@FathomMane Жыл бұрын
@@shahriarp9928he was defeated😂
@shahriarp9928
@shahriarp9928 Жыл бұрын
@@FathomMane I'm speaking about history not this game videos , second time he sent persian armies he conquered all Greece
@SandiShila
@SandiShila Жыл бұрын
HAU HAU HAUUUU
@booishoois309
@booishoois309 Жыл бұрын
Perfect timing. Just finished reading Herodotus Histories - wow what a book 10/10 and great video 10/10!
@expandyourworld7500
@expandyourworld7500 Жыл бұрын
VEry nice battle, really enjoyed watching it :)
@martinthrone7012
@martinthrone7012 Жыл бұрын
The high level of attention to detail in this video regarding the aesthetics of the spartan & greek armour is amazing the shere scale of the battlefield & attention to detail is what makes this very good & enjoyable....as well as it being historically accurate
@TheREPPIX
@TheREPPIX 11 ай бұрын
It's a game called Total war Rome 2... it has mods added to increase the historical accuracy
@Dr.Pepper001
@Dr.Pepper001 Жыл бұрын
I learned about the Spartans when I was in junior high school. I wanted to be one. The closest thing I could find was to join the Marine Corps. It was the best time of my life...1964 to 1968.
@GitzenShiggles
@GitzenShiggles Жыл бұрын
Join the US Army. We need battle lords such as you!
@Literallysatan-t5u
@Literallysatan-t5u Жыл бұрын
during ottoman wars there was an albnain tribe called shpata in cameria (epirus) The Shpata family (Albanian: Shpata, Greek: Σπάτα, Σπάτας) was an Albanian noble family active in the 14th, 15th and 16th centuries, initially as Venetian vassals and later as Ottoman vassals. The family's progenitors were the brothers Gjin Bua Shpata and Skurra Bua Shpata. Shpata means "sword" in Albanian. :) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bua_(tribe)
@Billy-jn6te
@Billy-jn6te 9 ай бұрын
@@Literallysatan-t5uI am a descendant of this family and it’s Shpeta. We are also tied in with the Skenderbegs in Debar my family has grave stones in my village from 600 year’s continuous.
@adamdavis9838
@adamdavis9838 Жыл бұрын
Ironically the best infantry the Persians had were Greek.
@UGTLDG
@UGTLDG Жыл бұрын
Yeah, phalangites were excellent infantry! And that wasn't a one time deal. Centuries later, Swiss pikemen were also much sought-after mercenaries!
@Literallysatan-t5u
@Literallysatan-t5u Жыл бұрын
during ottoman wars there was an albnain tribe called shpata in cameria (epirus) The Shpata family (Albanian: Shpata, Greek: Σπάτα, Σπάτας) was an Albanian noble family active in the 14th, 15th and 16th centuries, initially as Venetian vassals and later as Ottoman vassals. The family's progenitors were the brothers Gjin Bua Shpata and Skurra Bua Shpata. Shpata means "sword" in Albanian. :) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bua_(tribe)
@austinyang3573
@austinyang3573 6 ай бұрын
Were the Greeks defeated by the Persians before the Persian army had Greek soldiers?
@ReZw7a
@ReZw7a 6 ай бұрын
​@@austinyang3573yes. battle of thymbra persians defeated greeks when they were out numbered two to one . and they didnt had greek soldires.
@panospana4524
@panospana4524 5 ай бұрын
​@@Literallysatan-t5u go steal and sell drugs
@PanaosSi-pc9uw
@PanaosSi-pc9uw 9 ай бұрын
Gut gemachte videos über die geschichte.
@glennclark5642
@glennclark5642 Жыл бұрын
Hey that was so enjoyable, man i couldnt stop watching. thank you for your time and effort into the making of this video,. thank you.
@nicolasahumada8974
@nicolasahumada8974 Жыл бұрын
THANK YOU FOR USING MY RESKIN MOD !!! 😄
@mariosathens1
@mariosathens1 Жыл бұрын
The letter "Λ" on the Spartan shields derives from the region that Sparta is located. Λακεδαιμόνα (Lakedemona).
@TheREPPIX
@TheREPPIX 11 ай бұрын
Ah so that explains why it's called the Lambda!
@mariosathens1
@mariosathens1 11 ай бұрын
@@TheREPPIX not exactly.. Lamda is Lamda. The region Lakedemona starts with Lamda.
@TheREPPIX
@TheREPPIX 11 ай бұрын
@@mariosathens1 my point exactly!
@icp818
@icp818 7 ай бұрын
Or (maybe) from arrow peak! 😜😜😜
@SnafuWT
@SnafuWT 4 ай бұрын
@@icp818 spartans didn't even use arrows that much, or even at all.
@leemday5731
@leemday5731 10 ай бұрын
As a Northern European and there for probably a celtic tribes man had we have known about this we would waded in with the greeks just for the hell of it !
@alexandermittelbock6171
@alexandermittelbock6171 Жыл бұрын
Wow ❤. I am speechless. This video is one of the best💪🏻🔥❤️
@fasfas8999
@fasfas8999 5 ай бұрын
Certainly !!!!
@douglastaggart9360
@douglastaggart9360 Жыл бұрын
It's sad the way plataea gets forgotten about with thermopylae getting so much attention.
@richardv.582
@richardv.582 11 ай бұрын
For some reason this victory was downplayed by the Greeks. Maybe they thought it was no big deal. To bad they couldn't unite against the Macedonians and Romans.
@aggelinairiniaggelaki2720
@aggelinairiniaggelaki2720 3 ай бұрын
Fortunately the Greek State of Macedonia, won and could united all the rest of Greek states against Persians.
@nikolasgreen7102
@nikolasgreen7102 2 ай бұрын
The Macedonians were Greek as well
@aggelinairiniaggelaki2720
@aggelinairiniaggelaki2720 2 ай бұрын
@@nikolasgreen7102 Did I say that they were not???
@nikolasgreen7102
@nikolasgreen7102 2 ай бұрын
@@aggelinairiniaggelaki2720no the contrary, my reply was to richard
@anangryranger
@anangryranger Жыл бұрын
Excellent video!👍 Even in a computer generated battle, Spartan hoplites know how to empty saddles and crush all in their path!💪
@martinthrone7012
@martinthrone7012 Жыл бұрын
That's because them a.i. hoplites have been programmed to actual spartan battle tactics....the most obvious way to kill the enemy cavalry would be to kill his horse 1st & then the rider once he's obviously on foot....if you're really lucky the horse might fall on him & crush him....otherwise he's likely to get thrown over the top right into a bunch of hoplites just waiting for him
@peterroberts7684
@peterroberts7684 Жыл бұрын
The Spartans Never ask how many are the enemy, Only where they Are..p.s. Those Corinthian helmets are so distinctive and iconic..Excellent stuff here👍👍👍👍💯
@SnafuWT
@SnafuWT 4 ай бұрын
corinthian drip so good, everyone in greece used it for a period of time.
@aggelinairiniaggelaki2720
@aggelinairiniaggelaki2720 3 ай бұрын
@peterroberts7684 Tell this to modern Iranians who think that quality is a reflection of quantity.
@Cryptic_Chai
@Cryptic_Chai Жыл бұрын
May the greeks rise agaon, modern day Turks need a lesson
@aggelinairiniaggelaki2720
@aggelinairiniaggelaki2720 3 ай бұрын
@@Cryptic_Chai Don't care. They will have their lesson. Be sure.
@j.b.macadam6516
@j.b.macadam6516 10 ай бұрын
Well done video! Thank you!
@WarAndHistory.
@WarAndHistory. 10 ай бұрын
Our pleasure!
@miguel.ledesmaledesma1790
@miguel.ledesmaledesma1790 10 ай бұрын
This was literally amazing ❤. Well done all the way around👍🏾. Not bad for this being the first time I watch your work.
@tenzinalexander
@tenzinalexander 9 ай бұрын
I once read some material on this battle that theorized the Huns abandoned a lot of their nomadic lifestyle by the time the Catalunian Plains battle took place, hence their forces mostly composed of infantry rather than cavalry. I never looked roo far into this to see if that indeed was the case but its something interesting to investigate for anyone here who decides to read up more on this battle. The Roman general Flavius Aetius was one of Rome"s greatest and amongst the last great Roman commanders; the emperor Valentinian's execution of him sped up Rone's downfall without a doubt, he could have been Romes last hope.
@WarAndHistory.
@WarAndHistory. 9 ай бұрын
wrong video 😂
@tenzinalexander
@tenzinalexander 9 ай бұрын
@@WarAndHistory. I was wondering what happened to my comment! I thought I accidentally deleted it. It must have posted here because I was typing it while watching it and aitoplay was on and it must have posted it here doh. I'll post it in the right place, thanks lol
@WarAndHistory.
@WarAndHistory. 9 ай бұрын
thanks for watching 👌
@karlnasario6533
@karlnasario6533 Жыл бұрын
i really love these vids ty for the upload
@brotherskeeper100
@brotherskeeper100 Жыл бұрын
Persians: We have more men. Greeks: We have Sparta.
@Literallysatan-t5u
@Literallysatan-t5u Жыл бұрын
during ottoman wars there was an albnain tribe called shpata in cameria (epirus) The Shpata family (Albanian: Shpata, Greek: Σπάτα, Σπάτας) was an Albanian noble family active in the 14th, 15th and 16th centuries, initially as Venetian vassals and later as Ottoman vassals. The family's progenitors were the brothers Gjin Bua Shpata and Skurra Bua Shpata. Shpata means "sword" in Albanian. :) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bua_(tribe)
@paulmerring1607
@paulmerring1607 6 ай бұрын
At this time you didn’t screw around with the Spartans in a land war. You’d be a dead bloody idiot!
@vasilykatuma5689
@vasilykatuma5689 6 ай бұрын
@@Literallysatan-t5u Also, it is PROVEN that albanians built the pyramids, went first to the moon and OFC found america, it is known...
@birdhno5882
@birdhno5882 3 ай бұрын
@@Literallysatan-t5uτι λες γαμω τη μάνα σου
@aggelinairiniaggelaki2720
@aggelinairiniaggelaki2720 3 ай бұрын
​@user-ic1dw7tg2t Shpata of Bua Shpata have nothing to do with Ancient Spartans and the Mani if our time. DON'T confuse.
@richardparker3396
@richardparker3396 3 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@pajserlatacchini9400
@pajserlatacchini9400 2 ай бұрын
Persia: "We will darken the skys" Sparta: "Then we shall fight in the shade"
@JBOBROSKII
@JBOBROSKII 10 ай бұрын
These are so cool, man! I'm in the middle of re playing the assassins creed games in historical order, so it's awesome that I can come watch the battles that take place during the time period with the game I'm playing! This is so awesome, man! Better than the history Channel!
@garymills562
@garymills562 4 ай бұрын
My thanks to the Greeks of 480 bc , brothers always!
@rudyelisarraraz3522
@rudyelisarraraz3522 Жыл бұрын
100 % perfection '' wow ''
@kzeich
@kzeich Жыл бұрын
Love the random Birds that fly over every 5 minutes or so
@pa5287
@pa5287 Жыл бұрын
Enjoyed 👍👍
@MistaLiir
@MistaLiir Ай бұрын
Really love your videos mate!! the historical accuracy and the background story telling, i love it!! please make more!
@daltoncasey2833
@daltoncasey2833 5 ай бұрын
I have read somewhere before that the Greek coalition sent out messengers/left letters to the Greeks that were joining the Persians that said "If you must fight us, fight poorly." Have also heard that the Greeks that fought the Athenians on the left flank did not truly want to be fighting their fellow Greeks so they marched into battle with spears held upright, not leveled. Athenians saw this and did the same so the *possible* majority of the fighting on that flank was just formations having a shoving match with little to no bloodshed.
@jeffwarren6906
@jeffwarren6906 2 ай бұрын
That was by far the best accounting of that glorious battle I have seen .. Explaining everything as it happened . We could see the battle and hear about real time strategy from both sides . You showed how { and marked them } the lines were formed and how they moved . I can't think of better words to explain how much I enjoyed this { wish I could } ,, I have subscribed and gave a thumbs up for this video . I will share it as well . Thank you so very much for showing us history taking place as we watched . Epic , stellar job Bro !!! God Bless
@MichaelMcbride-t9p
@MichaelMcbride-t9p Жыл бұрын
This is why you should scout your opponents to see what they're capable of 😮
@heredownunder
@heredownunder 2 ай бұрын
Some of these drones shots are amazing!
@antoniomoreira5921
@antoniomoreira5921 Жыл бұрын
Cool. If anyone's interested in Classical Hellenic warfare I warmly recommend Schwerpunkt's videos series
@robinhofargo5551
@robinhofargo5551 Жыл бұрын
Epic ⚔️
@Adrian-PetruMunteanu-rf7er
@Adrian-PetruMunteanu-rf7er Жыл бұрын
Love Greece 🇬🇷 from Romania 🇷🇴 orthodox brothers
@Literallysatan-t5u
@Literallysatan-t5u Жыл бұрын
during ottoman wars there was an albnain tribe called shpata in cameria (epirus) The Shpata family (Albanian: Shpata, Greek: Σπάτα, Σπάτας) was an Albanian noble family active in the 14th, 15th and 16th centuries, initially as Venetian vassals and later as Ottoman vassals. The family's progenitors were the brothers Gjin Bua Shpata and Skurra Bua Shpata. Shpata means "sword" in Albanian. :) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bua_(tribe) what greece mate spartan were albani illyrian
@panospana4524
@panospana4524 5 ай бұрын
​@@Literallysatan-t5u go steal and sell drugs
@SardonianSmile
@SardonianSmile 3 ай бұрын
Romanian people are brothers with Greeks ... we have many same things , love Romania
@aggelinairiniaggelaki2720
@aggelinairiniaggelaki2720 3 ай бұрын
​@@SardonianSmilebest regards from Greece.
@stucco76
@stucco76 22 күн бұрын
​@@Literallysatan-t5uillyrians??😅😅😅😅😅😅what a loser you are...and there is no cameria..was always Greece!💪💪
@scottbrooks541
@scottbrooks541 2 ай бұрын
Just well put together! Music how the AI move and the difference in fighting styles. Really gives you a VR version of the battle.
@justjoshingya504
@justjoshingya504 Жыл бұрын
I believe the 1400 number the most. Also alot of greeks died for the persians so maybe thats why the others though it was so much. This time of warefare the phalanx was the tank of the battlefield, and the greeks knew how to do it well
@mattc2431
@mattc2431 Жыл бұрын
it was well done this videos as tw fan myself
@edwardturner1282
@edwardturner1282 Жыл бұрын
This production is amazing.
@SOYLALUZDELMUNDO
@SOYLALUZDELMUNDO 9 ай бұрын
nobody: THE ANCIENT ARMY WITH LESS TESTOSTERONE IN THE BLOOD
@vernonwjones
@vernonwjones Ай бұрын
Very nicely done!
@andrehanekom5665
@andrehanekom5665 10 ай бұрын
Great video, there’s an amazing book ok called Persian Fire by Tom Holland which covers this period very well from marathon to salamis. The Athenians deserve much more credit lol.
@WarAndHistory.
@WarAndHistory. 10 ай бұрын
just came across it
@aggelinairiniaggelaki2720
@aggelinairiniaggelaki2720 3 ай бұрын
@andrehanekom5665 What you mean lol??
@richardv.582
@richardv.582 11 ай бұрын
Very cool. Almost like being there.
@WarAndHistory.
@WarAndHistory. 10 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@leemday5731
@leemday5731 10 ай бұрын
Like having the spartans on your side is like ..great im feeling safer all ready !
@BluffyMoo
@BluffyMoo Жыл бұрын
Those medizing Thessalian and Theban hoplites! How dare they betray their Greek brothers!?! 😡 "Now is the hour! Hoplites, form phalanx!" That gave me the chills!
@bdup1364
@bdup1364 5 ай бұрын
That’s why Alexander the Great had no tolerance to any Greek mercenary who was fighting for Persia. Betraying your own homeland is probably one of the worse crimes one can commit
@angelkf65
@angelkf65 5 ай бұрын
Time took revenge. The modern Thebes is considered a non existing city by us fellow Greeks. Less than an hour away from Athens but with nothing to see or do. it hosts only a miserable training camp for the newly drafted soldiers of the artillery corp. A non existing city of misery :-))))) And Thessaly was enbodied to modern Greece not by war but with a treaty back in 1881. Probably not even the Ottomans could stand them and gave them away :-)))) They are considered hillbillies by the rest of the Greeks, loaded though due to the fact that Thessaly is the biggest farming plain in Greece.
@jimalexakis8811
@jimalexakis8811 Жыл бұрын
🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷⚔⚔⚔💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼 ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ!
@frankgesuele6298
@frankgesuele6298 Жыл бұрын
No buttons to push. Back then you looked your enemy in the eyes & push on thru with spear & sword.
@dietricklamade7417
@dietricklamade7417 Жыл бұрын
Rome 2 is still beautiful
@phantasma.3216
@phantasma.3216 Жыл бұрын
Excelente vídeo!
@welshpete12
@welshpete12 10 ай бұрын
A rugby scrum , on a mega size and with pointy things
@johnhunt5181
@johnhunt5181 3 ай бұрын
Love this me... History that you don't get taught about... Real history
@waynevan7050
@waynevan7050 Ай бұрын
Excellent video! A nice touch would have been a short Hoplite Run just as the armies were closing on one another.
@elliottzlab862
@elliottzlab862 Жыл бұрын
very cool!
@qazyman
@qazyman Жыл бұрын
Never, ever, step into a Spartans wheelhouse.
@pinchevulpes
@pinchevulpes Жыл бұрын
Unless ur Epaminondas😂
@BooNight-u1j
@BooNight-u1j 9 ай бұрын
That is history
@Blue-Hawk-Legend
@Blue-Hawk-Legend 6 ай бұрын
I cant wait to get rome 1 and 2 again this time on a top notch computer with killer graphics and sound
@papazataklaattiranimam
@papazataklaattiranimam Жыл бұрын
Virgin Persians vs Chad Spartans
@shadowborn1456
@shadowborn1456 Жыл бұрын
Ah of course a petty LITTLE turk would say that
@mahdi-oe6mk
@mahdi-oe6mk 9 ай бұрын
One word from mongol 😂😂, you are obsessed with our history i see you comments everywhere
@Techtalk2030
@Techtalk2030 8 күн бұрын
Virgin turks vs chad hussars
@superbuddyfranklin
@superbuddyfranklin 4 ай бұрын
Good stuff mate.
@jozzieokes3422
@jozzieokes3422 Жыл бұрын
Great work!
@anastasioskalp5724
@anastasioskalp5724 Жыл бұрын
Αθανατοι είστε Έλληνες πρόγονοι μου
@scottriggs2592
@scottriggs2592 7 ай бұрын
Nice presentation!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
@RickThomas-g9c
@RickThomas-g9c Ай бұрын
Spartan were very well trained and knew each man would stick to strict ordets never waivering!!! I was a Spartan in previous life....
@josebarros6973
@josebarros6973 3 ай бұрын
❤🎉❤ bom trabalho para todos vocês 🙏🙏🫂 obrigado
@logictotalwar1201
@logictotalwar1201 7 ай бұрын
FUCK8NG AMAZING VIDEO BRO WOW!😬 VERY COOL!!!
@Spartan902
@Spartan902 Ай бұрын
Just discovered another war history channel. If it's up to my standard then I will subscribe and join. After what happened at the hands of King Leonidas and his men, you would have thought the Persians would not have wanted to fight them in battle again. Sounds like the Persians were not united in their cause. A slave army really. Really well done and am looking forward to seeing your other posts!👍😎🇦🇺🍻
@WarAndHistory.
@WarAndHistory. Ай бұрын
this is an older video, check out the newer stuff thats much higher quality
@danielearley5062
@danielearley5062 7 ай бұрын
There is an excellent series of books about the Greco-Persian wars by Christan Cameron. It is a fictional account but using a lot of historical evidence called 'The Long War' and has a fantastic description of this battle and many others. Well worth reading.
@frederikbeckers8923
@frederikbeckers8923 Жыл бұрын
Can you make videos of Japanese and Chinese historical battles
@WarAndHistory.
@WarAndHistory. Жыл бұрын
Don’t have the time buddy
@peterroberts7684
@peterroberts7684 Жыл бұрын
You could stream classic Kurosawa epics..
@phil20_20
@phil20_20 7 ай бұрын
And that's why we study the Greeks.
@ΚωσταςΤηνιακός
@ΚωσταςΤηνιακός 7 ай бұрын
Οι Έλληνες από τους αρχαίους χρόνους αγωνιστικά για τα ιδανικά τους.Η Ευρώπη χρωστά πολλά στην Ελλάδα.Ας μην το ξεχνούν.❤
@stephenhill545
@stephenhill545 4 ай бұрын
We don't. As John Stuart Mill said, Marathon was the most important battle in British history.
@aggelinairiniaggelaki2720
@aggelinairiniaggelaki2720 3 ай бұрын
​@@stephenhill545 The most important battle in Greek History, that was still is very convenient for all Europeans.
@reinnamaeroyeca6225
@reinnamaeroyeca6225 10 ай бұрын
From time after the creation, war was already a culture of life of men up to now.
@xaralamposp4228
@xaralamposp4228 4 ай бұрын
Pyrrhic dance over 2500 years old... According to Aristotle and Homer, the Pyrrhic was an armed dance, which was danced by children, men and women. ... Strabo states that the first to dance the war dance was Achilles' son, Pyrrhus, because he was happy to kill Eurypylus... The Athenians danced it in the Panathenaia and the Spartans danced it during battles. In fact, a text by Xenophon mentions a celebration that they organized in 400 BC. the residents of...
@johnnyblade4351
@johnnyblade4351 Жыл бұрын
Great graphics ... Wonderful ... S**t Happens & then you have to work it out !!!
@diklongley01
@diklongley01 Жыл бұрын
surprised that archers didn't get involved earlier in the battle.
@UGTLDG
@UGTLDG Жыл бұрын
One of the things I find much unrealistic in war gaming (let alone movies), is cavalry charging right into tightly packed formations. You can drive a bike, or a car stright into a wall, but I'm not so sure about a horse. The horse has a mind of its own, and that mind is usually free of suicidal thoughts. Even a higly trained war horse would hesitade to hit a solid mass, even if its rider would attempt to. Horses would probably pivot around, and the riders would use their spears to try and hit somebody's face. In a phalanx, as each rank was pushing the rank in front, and the front rank locked shields, the whole square was presenting a solid mass, concentrated in those front rank shields. A rider on a horse has great momentum, but surely less than the inertia of the combined mass of 8 men or more. Horses would only charge through lose formations, be it enemies broken or in dissaray, or in open order. An exception would be to hit a phalanx at the flank and rear, if the rider had the skill to not gide his horse straight at a man, but rather at the gap between two men! That could split the whole formation, much like unzipping it. Still, cavalry in tight line formation could not do it in optional terms, because the shove of a man towards one direction would be partially negated by a shove to the other direction, by another horse. So the whole box would be shaken and disrupted but the cavalry would evertually run out of momentum and stop. In order for the physics to really work its magic, the cavalry would have to be in a short of tight wedge formation! If such a formation was neatly guided at the gap between two men's backs, the initial gap created by the wedge leader, would be widened with every raw passing through, unraveling the box in split seconds! Interestigly enough, Greek shock cavalry squadrons were formed in wedges or rhomboids, always opting to hit an enemy formation with a vertex!
@malsm8892
@malsm8892 Жыл бұрын
9
@RobbyHouseIV
@RobbyHouseIV 9 ай бұрын
Concurrence
@deankostas7214
@deankostas7214 13 күн бұрын
😊😊
@caseyself2134
@caseyself2134 Жыл бұрын
The Persian Empire when it comes to how they handled the war with the Greeks did an absolute terrible job the phalanx as a very formidable site not only did the Persian army make its ranks so diverse that many didn't speak the same language as their Commanders or even their fellow soldiers. It does not matter if the Persian army has Superior numbers sending men with wickerwork Shields and short thrusting Spears directly into a phalanx where there's going to be ten pikes in the face of every Soldier you're going to lose the Phalanx can be defeated but that requires outflanking it and attacking from behind or if you're lucky bombarding them with enough arrows and missiles that it wears them down the Persians thought the numbers are going to win a battle had the Greeks been using swords thrusting Spears and anything other then phalanx troops then they would have lost the Persians had Scythe chariots swordsman Spearman a very diverse unique Army but they did not have the training discipline and will of the Greeks they were fighting shoulder-to-shoulder with their Brothers cousins father's Etc I'm a historian and we gave a live demonstration with full uniforms and weaponry you simply cannot win when your strategy is to just throw hundreds of thousands of soldiers lives away to obtain victory because in the long run even if they had been Victorious at Marathon they would have lost so many men all they would have had left to fight with would have been cavalry and if you think Thermopylae was a Slaughter picture Persian Cavalry trying to fight Close Quarters in the confined streets of Athens
@unpataunpata
@unpataunpata Жыл бұрын
What about stalingrad
@caseyself2134
@caseyself2134 Жыл бұрын
@@unpataunpata my opinion on that will cost 1 sandwich
@Jack69_420
@Jack69_420 Жыл бұрын
Wow 😯 😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮
@rolandpenhall4526
@rolandpenhall4526 5 ай бұрын
Brilliant footage from one of the Total War games.
@RAYANDERS-w4t
@RAYANDERS-w4t 12 күн бұрын
THANKS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@CplOddballof8thCT
@CplOddballof8thCT Жыл бұрын
thats what happens when one neighbor turns on his other neighbor for power, the one small nations will fend of a large empire
@HangrySaturn
@HangrySaturn 6 ай бұрын
I absolutely love those Persian caps.
@marcelomariano3586
@marcelomariano3586 Жыл бұрын
It's interesting how the spear and the round shield rested the main weapons untill the arrival of the romans with their preference for the gladius and the heavy rectangular scutum in the legion formations.
@stsk1061
@stsk1061 Жыл бұрын
The Romans used oval shields until the late republic. The switch to the Gladius occurred earlier; around the time of the 2nd Punic War.
@ThortheMerciless
@ThortheMerciless Жыл бұрын
But then the gladius was superseded by the spatha.
@panagiotisp8213
@panagiotisp8213 5 ай бұрын
romans used spears before using the swords in close combat , almost the same way
@PlanetEarth3141
@PlanetEarth3141 3 ай бұрын
I was there when King Leonidas said, "That's a lot of freaking Persians." 😅
@byci
@byci 6 ай бұрын
the music is awesome
@Bravo6141
@Bravo6141 Жыл бұрын
What are you playing this on can I play on the PS five
@JohnThompson-lc5ok
@JohnThompson-lc5ok 5 ай бұрын
Wow. First time watcher. Wish i could send $ to help out. Damnit im such a bum😅
@aslamrazia5321
@aslamrazia5321 8 ай бұрын
Hi
@mickuljatheseagull
@mickuljatheseagull 10 ай бұрын
Losses of 50 to 80 000 are a little ridiculous, or do they mean wounded and killed? Still probably on the high side. Good vid though.
@julianmarsh8384
@julianmarsh8384 Жыл бұрын
Spartans are shown fighting without body armor, which was against Spartan law...other Greek armies are shown with identical armor when in fact at this time only the Spartans had the same armor and weapons...Persians are shown with a lot of them in hoplite type mode, especially when it comes to their shields when in fact they used wicker shields...and this is the first account I have seen of Persian cavalry attacking the Spartans on this all important day of battle...your sources?
@WarAndHistory.
@WarAndHistory. Жыл бұрын
you do realize that those "Persians" were also Thebans and Thessalians as stated in the video right?
@julianmarsh8384
@julianmarsh8384 Жыл бұрын
I am aware...and like most city states, the middle class hoplites were expected to supply their own armor.@@WarAndHistory. Some of the weapons, etc would have looked the same as typical Greek but not uniformed as the Spartans.
@WarAndHistory.
@WarAndHistory. Жыл бұрын
Ok cool 👍🏻
@stevenkoehler6018
@stevenkoehler6018 7 ай бұрын
If you want to REALLY understand how the Spartans fought, and how devastating the Spartan Phalynx was, read “The Gates Of Fire” by Steven Pressfield.
@HangrySaturn
@HangrySaturn 6 ай бұрын
Thanks. I'll go check that out.
@سیاوشمقصودی
@سیاوشمقصودی 2 ай бұрын
درود بر ایرانیان شجاع و دلاور🎉
@ThamMalaysia
@ThamMalaysia Жыл бұрын
What happened to the Persian cavalry after the first charge ? They ran off and never came back ?
@TheREPPIX
@TheREPPIX 11 ай бұрын
That happened often with eastern army's, they either caused a decisive victory or ran away.
@auraledgereal
@auraledgereal 7 ай бұрын
Excactly, clearly we can see Persian Royal Cavalry retreated even they smashed Greek Cavalry in both Battles of Issus & Gaugamela during Alexander's invasion of Persia.
@stephenhill545
@stephenhill545 4 ай бұрын
It happened at Edge Hill in 1642, English Civil War. The cavalry charged, then looted the baggage train, forgetting about the battle. The Persian cavalry was also too interested in a bit of looting.
@celticjarl1649
@celticjarl1649 Жыл бұрын
Is there a way to fight as the Persians in a custom battle
@TheREPPIX
@TheREPPIX 11 ай бұрын
Mods
@singingtaxidriver64
@singingtaxidriver64 26 күн бұрын
didnt finish the story of the battle. what happened to the medizing greeks afterwards?
@thesnowfox7262
@thesnowfox7262 Жыл бұрын
Hey, just a quick note on the word "medizing": It is an adjective of some sort but I'm not sure if it's supposed to be pronounced "medizing" like an English adjective proper- The greek word "Medeizien" used to denote the greek Poleies that cooperated with the Persians, it refers to Media, an ancient landscape around and within modern day Iraq, when Cyrus the Great came to power and founded the Achaemenid empire, he had to fight the Medians who were based in that region and the second strongest power/satrap of the empire, the ancient greeks usually recognised the Achaemenids as either Medians or Persians Anyway, I think it would be more correct to refer to Poleies who fought under/with Xerxes as Medeizin/Medezien cities/Poleies rather than Medizing
@RobbyHouseIV
@RobbyHouseIV 9 ай бұрын
I prefer saying "Medized..." Like the Medized Thessalians or the Medized Ionians... Medizing just sounds too present tense or something. I just sounds funny.
@jeffadams9807
@jeffadams9807 7 ай бұрын
Calvery SUX'S Aginst Square's, Napoleon Leared That At Waterloo...
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