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@utubekou11 Жыл бұрын
The knight king fell where Winter fell
@TheCromenockleFletch Жыл бұрын
Strange.. The night king only appeared when bran started warging... That guy is sus af, everyone died for him to get the throne. Isn't he the real night king?
@tonygmichael6434 Жыл бұрын
BB a true masterpiece!
@stonedmountainunicorn9532 Жыл бұрын
Breaking Bad is a real winner
@Nga_Babaye Жыл бұрын
@@TheCromenockleFletch Yeah, I think so as well. I hope we get Snow, and whatever they do at least indirectly addresses this. At least attempts to fix this.
@Jethedril Жыл бұрын
Jorah and Lyana are the perfect embodiments of the famous words of their house. “Here we stand”. They stood until they could no longer, and then still stood just a bit longer.
@trevorharris4647 Жыл бұрын
Wow that’s crazy. Never put that together. “Here we stand”
@fedeanna8708 Жыл бұрын
This.
@whatisreddin7367 Жыл бұрын
@@trevorharris4647 he also says it to viserys in season 1 when he tries to take the eggs, excellent scene.
@bleyded Жыл бұрын
the old bear and his sister would have been proud. house mormont's always been a smidge underrated, but boy do they deliver. it's really unfortunate that their lineage got wiped out in the show, hopefully they'll have surviving relatives in the last book. iirc maege's other 3 daughters are still alive?
@jamesw7072 Жыл бұрын
@@bleyded I'm sure Jorah got a couple of bastards out there that could be legitimized.
@tonydurham9956 Жыл бұрын
Pudgey said “Theon, you’re a good man” on one of the earlier reactions. Does this mean she’s the three eyed raven?
@Trepanation21 Жыл бұрын
The teary-eyed Raven? 😥🐦
@NavsangeetSingh Жыл бұрын
Might as well be. Bran did the reactions for Pudgey and Spartan combined, and not much else.
@lalalalala1986 ай бұрын
@@NavsangeetSinghhuh?
@NavsangeetSingh5 ай бұрын
@@lalalalala198 Even I don't fully remember what I meant back then lmao.
@N0xN0ctis4 ай бұрын
@@NavsangeetSingh God, that's so three-eyed raven of you
@edrodriguez2010 Жыл бұрын
Upon rewatching the series, Theon's journey is one of my favorites. Alfie does such an amazing job.
@Laketwig Жыл бұрын
because he dies pointlessly?
@barry2349 Жыл бұрын
@@Laketwigdoes he?there is no purpose for him anymore,this was the end of his arc
@Laketwig Жыл бұрын
@@barry2349 yeah it what happends when you dont write story or motivation for a character.
@romo_lampkin Жыл бұрын
Actual crime that he wasn't given every emmy
@afanofpeanuts7381 Жыл бұрын
100% Absolutely agree. And Jora as well
@renanmiguel8694 Жыл бұрын
Well now Sansa doesn’t have to worry about feeding the remaining 20 people
@rudy_4ier Жыл бұрын
ehh she still does. they respawn immediately. but that problem resolves itself immediately too because they've built a teleporter anyway. off to King's Landing! ETA: 1 minute
@scargreatness8457 Жыл бұрын
Yes the population of King's Landing and Winterfell drastically dropped so no more famine
@DanLanningPRTeam Жыл бұрын
You mean half lol
@merykhan97 Жыл бұрын
She was worried about the wounded. And the rest of those who survived. That's an issue they needed to solve before going to another war . But I guess that made her the villain
@queenxx1690 Жыл бұрын
Everything became so stupid after season 5 they destroyed everything did not introduce a lot of important characters that why they didn't know what to do in the end even with those they were left
@triscuitzreactz Жыл бұрын
"I know the warging is going to amount to something" THE WAY I CACKLED
@bleyded Жыл бұрын
my cackle faded away as soon as it hit me that bran did for a fact peace out mentally during the battle? i gotta ask because i genuinely don't know anymore. what exactly was bran doing all along? couldn't he have messed with the NK in any other way? bro's just a glorified, disabled bait right now. what went down in and out of that cave can't all have been for THIS 😭
@whateverreally1347 Жыл бұрын
@@bleyded bro was just checking his emails while the battle he spent 8 seasons preparing for was going on around him
@fluffy_walrus Жыл бұрын
I always figured he was warging into the past to make sure Anya would have the valyrian steel dagger . We've seen his ability to change the past so it'd affect the present. He was very purposeful in giving Arya the dagger, so I figure that's what happened somehow
@MTStingray Жыл бұрын
@@fluffy_walrus Except it's pretty obvious he can't change the past. "The past is already written; the ink is dry." Everything Bran was going to do in the past was always going to happen, so nothing he does will change anything, as it was always going to be. He was always going to call out to his father at the Tower of Joy. He was always going to warg into Hodor and cause Hodor to become Hodor (otherwise Hodor would still have been Willis). Likewise Arya was always going to get that dagger. It wasn't a product of his green seeing, it was as simple as him just giving it to her and knowing what she would do with it.
@clit_niblr0375 Жыл бұрын
@@bleyded - Wish they had filmed this episode by interspersing it with cut scenes of Bran having secret meetings with key characters and telling them where they needed to be and what they needed to do. For instance: telling John you need to be here at such and such moment and do this, and Arya you need to be at this place at such and such moment, etc. If they had utilized Bran and his abilities much better then they payoff of him being the 3-Eyed Raven would have been much more satisfying. Instead the audience got treated to 'I'm just gonna sit over here and watch' Bran.
@nvldsnd4889 Жыл бұрын
This ep was so dark even the Night King's guards didn't see Arya coming
@joshuasutton355 Жыл бұрын
The episode been dark what does that have to do with the whitewalkers been able to aura coming they did attack once before when it was dark that's why it's called the long night not the long day
@drrohanjacob Жыл бұрын
@@joshuasutton355 It's called sarcasm
@dirtydoflamingo_ Жыл бұрын
@@joshuasutton355woosh
@minerva566 Жыл бұрын
@@joshuasutton355you missed the joke
@JonnyQuest64 Жыл бұрын
@@joshuasutton355words hard life tough urg go sleep now... face ass
@therealbologna2 Жыл бұрын
Fun fact- the writers wanted Dany to just stand there while Jorah was protecting her, but it was Emilia’s idea to have Dany pick up the sword because she doesn’t believe Dany would act so helpless
@noneofyourbz4007 Жыл бұрын
that tells you how 'lackluster' the final season writers were and relied on an actress to be more creative ... eyeroll
@lovethepandainyou Жыл бұрын
No shade to Emilia, but it tells on how much the writers were shit when an actor just goes "yeah, that's stupid and here's something 100% more obvious and better".
@mitloppas3559 Жыл бұрын
Fun fact- the writers were literal buffoons
@biancaingrassia7871 Жыл бұрын
The writers of this season are the true traitors of GOT
@lovethepandainyou Жыл бұрын
@@biancaingrassia7871 D&D forcing to rush the last seasons when HBO really was down with making as much content as is needed for a quality show are the only true traitors of GoT.
@kidnebhagalandson7487 Жыл бұрын
The Dothraki cavalry charging head on in to utter darkness, is by far, the worst tactical maneuver ever put on display in the history of film and series.
@tonygmichael6434 Жыл бұрын
So dumb I couldn't believe it!
@FrigusMagnum Жыл бұрын
There was also no reason for them to charge. What were they charging at? It was dark, they couldn't see and they didn't even know there's enemy there...
@0cidd0 Жыл бұрын
They just got the buff of flame sword they was excited 😆
@fredtheted2259 Жыл бұрын
It’s not real🤡
@Stillo524 Жыл бұрын
Tactics aside.. I loved it. That’s what they did and my heart stopped beating the entire time. The roller coaster of emotions is what made this episode for me no episode or movie gave me the emotions this did
@MagguillZ Жыл бұрын
First 'The Light of the Seven' and then 'The Night King' theme. Ser Ramin Djawadi, you have my utmost respect.
@kbaylor123 Жыл бұрын
I LOVE that theme
@johnnyskinwalker4095 Жыл бұрын
sad that it was wasted on this
@romo_lampkin Жыл бұрын
two incredible pieces
@clit_niblr0375 Жыл бұрын
You can hear variants of these themes when Ramin did the score for Westworld.
@imperial-x- Жыл бұрын
The Night King’s entrance music at the end is one of the best soundtracks of the entire series. The use of the piano is incredibly suspenseful and beautiful at the same time. Shoutout to Ramin Djawadi
@jesalyn84 Жыл бұрын
It’s also a bit of a call back to when cerci blew up the sept of baylor beautiful composition
@wholetruth8469 Жыл бұрын
Light of the seven is 😘
@barr790 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely agree, I bought the MP3 of that, and the Dothraki charge, amazing soundtrack
@constancesirbu1481 Жыл бұрын
Two things NEVER disappointed in the entire series ; the music and the visuals (even when they don't make much sense, I agree, but in the latter seasons, some shots genuinely look like oil paintings).
@tamleyburds8750 Жыл бұрын
There's one Long May She Reign, where they combined Raines of Castamere and Light of the Seven
@chrisjames8234 Жыл бұрын
Jorah's death ripped me! He didn't go down until he knew his Queen was safe. I cried for Jorah more then Theon in that moment.
@jcarlovitch Жыл бұрын
And for some strange reason we find out on latter episodes that he was actually the only one that died in this battle.
@Desithemidget Жыл бұрын
Jorrah was the only person I cried for in this show.
@msjacqui72 Жыл бұрын
@Desithemidget I'm trying to think... didn't cry for Ned or Red wedding ... hmmm oh wait when stanis daughter was murdered. But Jorahs death as he took his last breaths in Daenerys' arms. I died 😢
@jerelgayle3625 Жыл бұрын
Regardless of this season, Jorah’s death is one of the best. He died duing what most knights in Westeros yearn for. Fighting and protecting for a ruler they believe in, his Khalessi. Even better, he fought side-by-side with her to protect and for a cause greater than himself, saving humanity from a supernatural force, even fewer knights have been able to say they have done that.
@whatisreddin7367 Жыл бұрын
@@Desithemidget crazy how they redeemed his character so much. in the book hes lowkey a weirdo whos desperately trying to fuck a 14 year old
@Alex-mn1fb Жыл бұрын
That scene of Melisandre taking off her collar, that almost feels like she has been a slave to her Lord and her purpose for all of her years, you can feel the burden releasing the grip it had on her, finally breathing a sigh of relief, even if she did horrific things, she thought she was doing everything to save humanity from this horrible fate, and after seeing another day dawning in the distance, the sun about to shine on a grateful and saved world, she finally is at peace, free to let go. Like, it never fails to bring a tear to my eye.
@MMKOCH200 Жыл бұрын
Davos watching it was very fitting given their history.
@clownafra6088 Жыл бұрын
@@MMKOCH200 If Davos got his way earlier, humanity would be dead. Thoros, Beric and Malissadre made this outcome happen. All of them gave their lives to fight for the living to live. Spartan stupidity said Malissandre's necklace was her power. Thoros didn't wear a necklace. He said he has no power. His lord was his power. When Malissadre brought Jon back, nothing she did or said worked until she said please. She humbled herself realizing what Thoros already knew.
@MMKOCH200 Жыл бұрын
@@clownafra6088 Davos was 100% justified for her role in Shireens death.
@clownafra6088 Жыл бұрын
@@MMKOCH200 Let's be clear. I never said he didn't have justification for wanting her dead. So whatever you think you read isn't what I'm willing to debate. Cause and affect is what I'm talking about. Everything that happened was to get to where they got. Shirren's death and Stanis losing broke Malessandre's faith. Put her at the wall. Humbled her. So when she made her attempt to resurrected Jon, she came at it like Thoros. With no power. Remember her asking please? She asked for the lords favor like Thoros, and it was granted. I never even implied it was OK for her to sacrifice a child like other cultures have as ritualistic practice. The 7 Many Face God is the one true god. The 7 killed Ned which sent Aria to the Many Face God and was saved by R'hllor, the one true god to, kill the Knight King. They're the same god.
@MMKOCH200 Жыл бұрын
@@clownafra6088 no, I just meant I understood why he wanted her dead. Your point is still valid regardless.
@K-J-A Жыл бұрын
Let's review the war strategies: we have trenches we have walls we have dragons. let's get our army outside the walls! Better yet, in front of the trenches!! Let's send them straight to the bloody enemy! Let's throw dragon fire only after the enemy is killing us!! Oh and we'll leave the weakest in the crypt. What could go wrong?
@leonrobinson2475 Жыл бұрын
You don't understand that the strategy was to bide time as the only way to win was to kill the NK.
@lionhead123 Жыл бұрын
yeah, they know anybody who dies goes to army of the dead. Who in their right mind would decide to attack them head on?
@AnkokuDragon Жыл бұрын
this episode was written to be emotional to please emotions not the brain.and it payed off. no other piece of entertainment had managed to pull something like this entire hour of suspense. id rather experience something new and different, than having a good stablished strategy for the battle, that wont bring anything new to the table.
@Fyrestar Жыл бұрын
@@AnkokuDragon How can you say that this episode had suspense when every time a character is about to be killed by 8 zombies they cut away, and the moment they cut back that character is perfectly fine. It happens like 24 times throughout the episode and after a while you just sort of mentally check out. As for this being something "new" and "different", it certainly was that. I've never before seen an episode that so expertly killed the themes of it's own show. Also you can't just write off good strategy as an "extra bonus" that doesn't matter. Even if we pretend that everything else in this episode wasn't equally as shit, GoT has always established itself as a show where smart strategic thinking is rewarded and poor planning and mistakes gets you killed. Until s8 this show had consequences. Remember that this plan was devised by Tyrion, Jon Snow, Jamie, and many other characters who could be listed as some of the smartest and most strategically minded people in westeros. To have THESE CHARACTERS devise THIS PLAN isn't a thing you can just shrug off. It damages their characters heavily. I get that you liked it but stop talking out of your ass. Go like it in your own time instead of arguing against something that is undeniably a flaw.
@AnkokuDragon Жыл бұрын
@@Fyrestar yeah cuz Jon Snow Surviving the battle of the bastards Made perfect sense as well... dont give me that BS saying until S8 the show had consequences when we even had Jon Snow resurrecting. Besides i dont see the Dohtraki following orders from others, again like i said before the episode was written to dample with emotions, them charging like that and dying in an instant brings the morale down. Also also i dont even understand the obsession for demanding a good strategy for the battle when it dosnt even matter... whatever the fuck they did, they were going to die and fail because their opponents can resurrect an grow in numbers as the battle goes, literally whats the point ?
@jayshizzle35 Жыл бұрын
White walker sees background character: Instantly shreds them to bits White walker sees main character: “Hm.. must’ve been the wind, carry on.”
@orphanedhanyou7 ай бұрын
They didn't want to get closer to actual threats? The wights didn't care & were just a wave of bodies but the Walkers want to stay "alive" if that's what they are.
@Calinn86 Жыл бұрын
So Bran was bait for the NK, ok... but what was the fucking plan?! You bait him into what exactly? Theon charging at him with a spear? They had no plan, there was nothing smart about the way they ended the NK, it was just stupid randomness. If Arya disappeared for the entire episode, to then appear with the face of a White Walker and stab the NK i wouldn've said: cool, unepxected, but it somehow makes sense, she is one of the faceless men, she somehow managed to get the face of a Walker. Or better, what if Arya took Bran's own face and layed there in his chair until the Night King reached Bran, then surprise-surprise, she swiftly gets up and stabs the fucker, then pulls down Bran's face to reveal it was her actually and that Bran sacrificed himself to give her his face... that would've still made little sense, because it wasn't freaking Arya the one who should've ended the NK, but at least it would've been original, unexpected, planned. No, they just chose to make her jump out of nowhere.
@JoshuaDay0550Ай бұрын
lol holy shit kid its not that serious.
@eglantinepapeau1582 Жыл бұрын
Theon and Jorah's death truly saddened me in this episode . They both did bad things in the past ( Jorah sold slaves, Theon attacked his adopted family) but they both fought with honor here, two true knights 😢
@richcheckmaker Жыл бұрын
Bro...Theon attacked his adopted family? No, he's a child murderer. He doesn't get a redemption arc. Fuck Theon.
@jamesb7924 Жыл бұрын
Theon also burnt two children and pretended their corpses were Starks.
@eglantinepapeau1582 Жыл бұрын
@@jamesb7924 yes , and his men* killed maester luwin, he himself beheaded sir Rodrick , he went super far
@rosiii9 Жыл бұрын
@@jamesb7924 to be fair he had someone else burn them, he said it himself, and in game of thrones evilness scale he's not that bad, he totally redeems himself saving Sansa and sacrificing his life to save Bran
@jamesb7924 Жыл бұрын
@@rosiii9 I doubt his sacrifice saved Bran, he was killed in the space of seconds. It was Bran and the Nightking having a stare off for 2 minutes which allowed Arya to arrive... that entire season is ridiculous.
@gavinclements482 Жыл бұрын
I love how someone like Theon, who was paralyzed by fear for nearly the whole show, found the courage to charge the most intimidating person of all in the end
@DuBstep115 Жыл бұрын
IMO only character that they didn't F up and has perfect story from start to finish
@kingrichard8188 Жыл бұрын
@@DuBstep115 True and Danny
@seancarroll5803 Жыл бұрын
@@kingrichard8188 Dany??? Are you fucking kidding me
@dinkin_flicka14 Жыл бұрын
Idk about courage cuz when Bran said, "you're a good man, thank you." It was understood to both Theon and the audience that he's going to die
@BhBc8f8 Жыл бұрын
@@dinkin_flicka14 charging to your death takes courage my g
@Official-OpenAI Жыл бұрын
Rip Theon. One of the best characters in the show.
@playdoug12 Жыл бұрын
Rip, but define best
@ijalvarenga Жыл бұрын
@@playdoug12not the favorite but he easily had the best redemption arc in the show
@niaraa8378 Жыл бұрын
what it dead may never die.
@adrock9800 Жыл бұрын
Also, he could’ve/imo probably should’ve been at least nominated for an Emmy for every season from S2 onward 🤔💯🏆👍✌️🦑🐺❄️🔥🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
@lamariustangible6179 Жыл бұрын
(Night King keeps raising the dead) Tyrion: we’ll be safest in the crypt with the dead people…. 🤔🤔
@jucor981 Жыл бұрын
He never said it. It wasn't even his idea.
@GFS695 Жыл бұрын
Isnt it just people that they actuall kill they can raise?
@beyo7452 Жыл бұрын
Rip Jorah. He died as he lived: In the friendzone!
@bobdonda Жыл бұрын
That reminds me that Jorah used to be married. His wife was Lynesse Hightower, who spent all his money which is what drove him to resort to selling slaves. After Jorah was caught and exiled he and his wife moved to Lys as Jorah fought for the Golden Company. He didn't make a lot of money though, and his wife left him to be the concubine of a wealthy merchant. Ouch.
@bradcarver8127 Жыл бұрын
Never trust a Hightower
@bobdonda Жыл бұрын
@@bradcarver8127 I was wondering if there were ever any good Hightowers, I had to look it up. The Mad King's Lord Commander of the Kingsguard was a Hightower. When Aegon Targaryen came to conquer Oldtown, they welcomed him and kneeled immediately to protect their people. And the ancient Hightowers were pro-education and helped to create the Citadel.
@mamaseesa3122 Жыл бұрын
Theon is my absolute favorite character. His growth through 8 seasons is amazing. Such a well written character, you hate him in the beginning and bawl over his death. Awesome. I hope you noticed that when Jamie and Brienne were fighting back to back, their swords, made from Ned's sword Ice, were reunited once more to defend Winterfell.
@NavsangeetSingh5 ай бұрын
His growth. The blood finally had other places to go xD;
@shureyh Жыл бұрын
The catapults in front of the army was a genius move
@awesimo4684 Жыл бұрын
And the army in front of the trench they dug...
@salmarwow Жыл бұрын
Pretty much everything in this episode was a genius move. It's like writers read a lot of material about middle age battles and their tactics, then decided to do everything in an opposite way.
@alzer6467 Жыл бұрын
dont forget the sacrificing of your elite cavalry soldiers, 4D Chess....the White Walkers wouldnt have seen that coming!
@Jon.A.Scholt Жыл бұрын
Their tactical plan was "It's Opposite Day!"
@BhBc8f8 Жыл бұрын
D&D: our genius, it's almost frightening 🤡
@adrians.2313 Жыл бұрын
Night King: I'm gonna go kill the creepy kid. You guys got my back, right? White Walkers: Sure, boss - no one will get through us!
@FedeNerdFreckles Жыл бұрын
Literally NO ONE.
@CometF81 Жыл бұрын
@@FedeNerdFreckles But the girl is not no one, the girl is Arya Stark of Winterhell... FELL, Winterfell...
@BhBc8f8 Жыл бұрын
@@CometF81 hotpie the goat 🤣
@gulshanbisht Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@snappingbear Жыл бұрын
@@CometF81 Yeah the Mary Sue who had never seen the Night King and had trouble avoiding just one Whyte in the library is going to sneak through thousands of them and f even find the Night King never mind kill him 😂🤣😂
@carriesmith742 Жыл бұрын
Arya gave Sansa a dragonglass dagger, not the Valyrian steel one. She obviously saved that for herself. Lyanna being squished by the giant was the closest I've seen to tears on Spartan. Jorah's death had me sobbing. Emilia Clarke did a FANTASTIC job and Drogon coming in at the end, who had known Jorah literally his whole life, and curled up there with Dany. Flowing tears! R.I.P. to Jorah, Theon, Ed, Lyanna Mormont, Berric, Malissandre and thousands of Dothraki and brave unsullied who sacrificed themselves for the greater good.
@jamesw7072 Жыл бұрын
Don't forget the brave Northmen, Freefolk, and Knights of the Vale that also lost thousands.
@carriesmith742 Жыл бұрын
@@jamesw7072 thank you! I knew ai was forgetting someone. That list looked a little thin.
@bobsaget9675 Жыл бұрын
Don't worry, thousands of dothraki come back to life in a couple of episodes..
@carriesmith742 Жыл бұрын
@@bobsaget9675 true.
@fouff925 Жыл бұрын
Yeah Jorah’s death was the heavy hitter for me as well
@bobsaget7775 Жыл бұрын
Miguel Sapochnik, who directed this episode fought tooth and nail with D&D over the lack of deaths of main characters here. He wanted to kill Jorah in the initial charge along with the Dothraki to set the tone of "nobody is safe". He said he was up for killing everybody, but ultimately D&D wouldn't hear of it. Don't necessarily think everybody needed to die, but more deaths would definitely have been better as it would've shown how dangerous all of the prophecies about this war and the dead really are. Still feel the war with the Night King should've been the final 2 episodes too.
@Zarab923 Жыл бұрын
I mean it’s a bit annoying to only kill the ‘many extras we don’t know’. Like one handed Jaime lives over the Dothraki he feared so much and so many unsullied. And so many of the scenes it was just like them against tons of the walkers and it’s just not realistic. I wish Jaime died here… would’ve been far more honorable
@Zarab923 Жыл бұрын
Atleast they didn’t kill ghost though!!!!!
@khosani1726 Жыл бұрын
Agreed. I severely overestimated the amount of deaths here. Sam should have died. Brienne and Jaime should have died fighting side by side. Tyrion should have died.
@mgp1203 Жыл бұрын
The way this ep unfolded almost everybody should've died. The plot armour was just borderline insulting. Why make us wait 8 seasons to hype up a threat to only kill one or two characters. Just insane writing. They saved deaths for Daenerys scorching Kingslanding which is even more insane she should've never been the final boss. it should've just been the Walkers.
@_justinblizzle Жыл бұрын
@@mgp1203fuckkkk the walkers yall put so much emphasis and those blue eyes fucks 🙄 they were cool snd scary but Dany & Cersei being the true big bads was so much better.
@525569andrea Жыл бұрын
I never seen any other reactors prepare in advance for the darkness in this episode 😂 I’m livinggg for it 🙌🏼
@Drevamora Жыл бұрын
The ultimate climax to the entire story happens with Arya shanking a dude she's never met while Jon yells at a dragon and Bran checks his emails. Gold. I liked it how Arya perfected her sneak attack by screaming loudly.
@Marsh_125 Жыл бұрын
Checks his emails🤣🤣🤣
@mikegores99 Жыл бұрын
Glidus sends his regards
@drakethesnek6429 Жыл бұрын
It's called bad writing.
@rustygear447 Жыл бұрын
Bran is very serious about his emails
@Drevamora Жыл бұрын
@@mikegores99 RIP Rhaegar
@shaydeArtell Жыл бұрын
I think everyone needs to remember that the view of this show when spanning over many many years will be different to people that are able to binge it in a shorter time. Yes, it went downhill but it’s still one of the greatest shows ever and really highlighted how tv series can be more epic than movies
@StevenSendak Жыл бұрын
The thing about this episode is that while there is absolutely wasted potential and imperfect writing, there is still brilliant production, amazing fight choreography, and some amazing scenes. It is also FAR better than the nonsense coming in the remaining series episodes. Also, from the beginning, I really thought it should have been Jon + Arya (and maybe + Bran) bringing down the Night King.
@Bitchslapper316 Жыл бұрын
@@StevenSendak i was fine with Arya doing it. It was a good arc. I only wish they showed more training with her and the many faced god.
@tidepride86 Жыл бұрын
Well it went downhill about halfway thru the show. But yes, those first 4 seasons are absolutely top notch television.
@rudy_4ier Жыл бұрын
lol the people who watched S1-S4 over the years as it released didn't think those seasons were garbage. this whole "put into perspective the differences of binge watching vs watching back in the day" is actually a really poor apologist argument that I've seen gain traction for many shows that have declined in quality drastically. there were people who watched S8 when it released and loved it. S&P would have likely reacted the same if they watched back then as they are now binge watching.
@TheRealRealMClovin Жыл бұрын
Well if you remove season 8 sure it will be one of the greatest shows, not really worth watching if the ending sucks though. Also won't be that different, as on patreon they have already finished it and they are mad at the ending and how it went down XD It's like what David benioff and Dan themself said ironically in an interview, "A show is nothing without a good ending, even if you have a fantastic show, all of that means nothing if everything that leads up to it is a bad ending" Well they just ate their own words, literally XD But I agree for it's time before season 8 it was one of the greatest, even when I and probably others started notice a shift in quality from season 6-7 compared to the first 5 seasons, Season 6 and 7 are still up on top compared to other shows.
@sidscorner1 Жыл бұрын
Imagine preparing for the biggest war ever and sending your cavalry first and building the narrowest trench ever.
@rx7dude2006 Жыл бұрын
It worked now didn't it.
@phoebe11hl Жыл бұрын
Just a little fact, the dagger that arya used to kill the nightking is called catspaw. That is the same dagger that viserys targaryen had in house of the dragon, the one that had imprinted aegon's prophecy about the prince that was promised.
@Oldoclandis Жыл бұрын
And Bran handed that dagger to Arya right there under the Weirwood tree, the exact spot where the night king was killed
@Murdo2112 Жыл бұрын
The dagger is not called "Catspaw". It's sometimes known as the Catspaw Dagger, because it was the dagger used by the catspaw who attempted to assassinate Bran. A catspaw is someone who's been tricked into doing someone else's dirty work.
@Murdo2112 Жыл бұрын
@@williamshelton4318 Regardless of your thoughts on the matter "the catspaw" is how that otherwise unnamed character is referred to within the ASoIaF community, and always has been. That's what's relevant when explaining why some people mistake the term for the name of the actual blade. If you believe everyone else has been wrong all these years, that's your prerogative, but doesn't invalidate what I said.
@Murdo2112 Жыл бұрын
@@williamshelton4318 Do you know what "prerogative" means?
@frontdoor3417 Жыл бұрын
Wrekt
@eonym4103 Жыл бұрын
Arya's character arc against the Night King: S08E01: Finds out about Night King S08E02: Finds out Night King is "Really Bad" from Gendry S08E03: Kills Night King.
@awesimo4684 Жыл бұрын
Girls get it done!
@jaredwallace3270 Жыл бұрын
Hahahahah
@magicbrownie1357 Жыл бұрын
Great show. Great episode.
@drakethesnek6429 Жыл бұрын
Girl power!
@jbail2547 Жыл бұрын
Good to know if they lost this battle and the ww went south someone could just hire a faceless man
@steveswafen2528 Жыл бұрын
This episode is dark & full for terrors 😁
@TheRealRealMClovin Жыл бұрын
So dark that you could not see most of the time xd
@steveswafen2528 Жыл бұрын
@@TheRealRealMClovin It is known 🤭
@Marsh_125 Жыл бұрын
The terrors being the writing and direction
@Official-OpenAI Жыл бұрын
of...of terrors...
@ArcRogerr Жыл бұрын
Dark and full of errors
@Azsouth Жыл бұрын
House Mormonts words "Here we Stand" Jorah said it to Viscerys when he tried to steal the dragon eggs in season 1 and we saw it w/ Lyanna charging the giant and Jorah again standing back up and taking more blows for Dany until the fight ended.
@SviraSvi Жыл бұрын
Wow, I love that. Good call!
@obijuan-kenobi5117 Жыл бұрын
Watching you guys enjoy this episode actually gives me a newfound appreciation for it. I think binging it gave you guys a different perspective. Having a decade of watching the seasons of the show, and having read the books multiple times during that span, I had extremely lofty expectations that were always going to be impossible to be met on screen. While I still have some issues, there's a whole lot to appreciate as well. Cheers!
@black-widow33 Жыл бұрын
The most anxiety, most drained i've ever felt watching something in tv.. the release of the emotions after it was over just was insane.
@nickrubin7312 Жыл бұрын
Theon s1e1 character, Jorah s1e1 character. Absolutely vital to the story, yet some indeed complained that not enough deaths of main characters. Jorah saying the last words to Dany "I'm hurt..." still rips me.
@reddeaddave4675 Жыл бұрын
for that chaos of a battle ofcurse it's not enough...the fact that sam, podrick and a one handed jamie survived that being attacked by multiple enemys at once for so long is ridiculous and no saginifcant character died in the crypts is just plot armor at its best.
@VonJay Жыл бұрын
Yeah I felt like most of them should have died. I think if Martin writes it most of them will die.
@ms_scribbles Жыл бұрын
@@VonJay He will never finish writing the book. You guys are fooling yourselves. (You're also fooling yourselves that he'll make a better ending.)
@VonJay Жыл бұрын
@@ms_scribbles when did I say he’ll finish writing? Are you a bot?
@neilarcher6451 Жыл бұрын
Yes, they are both important to the story, but they are still just side characters, not main characters. Besides, their loss was not too painful because their story was told. That was completely different with Ned's or Oberyn's death, for example.
@GenomeSoldierDK Жыл бұрын
I really agree with Spartan on the point of making more of Bran's storyline. In my opinion it would have been really awesome to see sort of a mental battle between the night king and Bran / Three Eyes Raven involving some of the visions about night walker origins or something, maybe through utilising Bran's warging ability to get into his mind. Presedence was already set with Hodor - so I really thought this was where it was going! As Spartan says this could be the distracting factor that makes Arya's kill more believable.
@Jose-Lozanchez Жыл бұрын
It is clear that visually it was a 10, but as a script it was one of the worst episodes and it will not improve until we have The Winds of Winter
@johnmorris1009 Жыл бұрын
Bran proved to be one of the most pointless characters in the whole show. They butchered him as a character in the final two seasons.
@Mic-Mak Жыл бұрын
The Night King doesn't exist in the books, but I hope to see an astral plane battle between Bran and Euron, who is theorized to be the dangerous failed student of Bloodraven.
@ArgusStrav Жыл бұрын
Or maybe Bran could've warged into Nymeria, who distracts the Night King by attacking him. He kills her, but that distraction is what leaves him open to Arya jumping in there.
@marcusleftwich3745 Жыл бұрын
I have no idea what bran does in this episode but I'd like to think he warged to the beginning to ensure the dagger gets put into their storyline
@lifeoftennis1285 Жыл бұрын
Charge the dothraki into death and darkness head-on as your first move... 10/10 strats big brain move For all the critiques; - The Dothraki are light cavalry, they have no armour, and therefore their purpose is to flank, retreat, flank etc. That charge was unjustified to the writers' incompetence. - The 'planned' scenario before Malisandra came out of nowhere was to charge the Dothraki into the skeletons with weapons that couldn't even neutralise them... this adds to how stupid the whole thing was, they were thrown in to die by the writers. - There was no kind of preparation to this battle, this is obvious. They had at least 2 days to dig fire ditches, to plant posts for visibility, to transform all blades into dragonglass blades, to set fire traps upon fire traps. But nah, all we got was *Muh Kween* , *don't have balls lololol* , *let's fuck* , *i got beef with blondie, blondie got beef with me*
@drrohanjacob Жыл бұрын
Don't worry they are self replenishing thanks to binary fision. Same with the unsullied, they auto regenerate.
@powertrip25 Жыл бұрын
and Spartan approved lol so much for house Spartan
@Cronus111 Жыл бұрын
@@powertrip25 That speaks more to the target audience of the writing and choices in this final season.
@Splickos Жыл бұрын
And without weapon that can kill white walker. Before the arrival of Melisandre, they just have there normal sword and Melisandre was not planned
@hirvale Жыл бұрын
@@Splickosyeah, that's the craziest part, where was the strategy here? I feel like with the manpower they had, a better plan would have been to entrap the wights in a forest on the road to winterfell that they would then set afire to kill quite a portion of them. Simultaneously, you'd enlist every able body in the winter town and it's surrounding to dig the largest moat the north has ever seen around winterfell, fill it with pitch and wood, and once everyone has retreated to winter fell, set it aflame and rain arrows and catapults on any wight still walking while Jon and Dany deal with Viserion. Or I guess you can just throw all your soldier at them in an open field I guess, what do I know...
@KT-yu5jr Жыл бұрын
We never once saw the night king fight the entire show! Epic! Thanks for all the stare downs and foreshadowing!
@teutonicAnon Жыл бұрын
True, but generals don't fight in hand to hand combat
@arobin6695 Жыл бұрын
@@teutonicAnon generals dont walk up to the enemy human computer thing to kill them personally during a battle
@Slaskhask Жыл бұрын
@@teutonicAnon Except for Gengis Khan, Subutai, Julius Caesar, Pompey, Hannibal, Alexander the great, Pyrrus of Epirus, Claudius Marcellus, Henry V, Richard the Lionheart, Lasalle, Harald Hardråde and numerous other viking commanders, Zhang Liao, Khalid in Al-Waleed, Shaka Zulu and countless other commanders throughout time and from all over the world. Generals leading from the front didn't stop until relatively recently around the 18th century.
@robbybobby4373 Жыл бұрын
Which is a damn shame cause the guy who plays the Night King actually helps choreographs a lot of the sword fights in GoT. Such a missed opportunity to at least see an epic one on one fight against Jon Snow.
@ThumbsUpMike Жыл бұрын
Jojen: You saw the White walkers and the army of the dead." Sam: How do you know that Jojen" The night's watch can't stop them, Westeros and all their armies can't stop them." How does anyone take that quote and all the great build up and foreshadowing seriously when you try to rewatch this show. The show should literally just stop after season 6. Throw season 7 and 8 away and pretend it's a parody.
@Alex-mn1fb Жыл бұрын
Seeing Spartan this emotional finally, brought tears to my eyes. And Pudgy is her standard adorable self as always, sharp and attentive and emotional. ❤
@Mic-Mak Жыл бұрын
34:50 _"Try to ignore how Jon’s ducking behind stone pillars to avoid Viserion’s fire, despite this exact fire blasting through those exact walls fifteen minutes ago."_ *-TURTLE PACED*
@nexeroth7151 Жыл бұрын
The dragon is missing half a face and neck at this point genius.
@alexking988 Жыл бұрын
@@nexeroth7151 he can still clearly breathe fire.
@nexeroth7151 Жыл бұрын
@@alexking988 and you can see a solid 50% of that fire going out the sides of his neck and face. He tries to breath fire in the air after Raegal rips open his neck and struggles. You ever like, had a hole in a straw?
@Polo-wk7zl Жыл бұрын
@@nexeroth7151and he still easily took out multiple pillars. Besides, the wall was also taken out by a dead dragon, and that’s a lot stronger than a pillar.
@afanofpeanuts7381 Жыл бұрын
The walls Jon chose to hide behind were extra reinforced for the dragon fire. Only Jon would know which pieces are fire resistant 😊
@Leo_ofRedKeep Жыл бұрын
Deleted scene: The battle is lost, Jaime and Brienne barely escape in the high tower. Facing certain death, they go for a shag but Arya suddenly enters and stands there, watching, dagger in hand. Jaime pushes her out the window as the Night King is walking by. The scene was left out because the lighting wasn't good.
@sayapmatahari4460 Жыл бұрын
As an animal, would make more sense if ghost stay at the back protecting bran or assisting someone familiar (someone from the north/wildling) instead of actively charging at the front with strangers (jorah and the dothraki).
@arobin6695 Жыл бұрын
yeah Summer died instantly when it tried to fight a handful of wights but Ghost just rushes at a huge wall of a hundred thousands wights
@paultokjian7915 Жыл бұрын
True But He's a Special Pup though..who goes on the front foot 😎😄
@Trepanation21 Жыл бұрын
@@williamshelton4318 ngl though, be kinda sick if Ghost had Valyrian steel implants/caps on his canines 🐕 _Gendry, where you at bro? I got a commission..._
@SnailHatan Жыл бұрын
And somehow survived the whole thing, because that’s definitely how that works
@orphanedhanyou7 ай бұрын
@@arobin6695 Jorah & a handful of Dothraki also survived though? Probably the ones all near Ghost & they only got out by watching each other's backs as they ran.
@brynnakindle7935 Жыл бұрын
My main disappointment in this episode was Bran. The writers could've done so much with the type of power he had. He could've had a much more significant role than just the bait. That being said, it's still an epic episode and I'll never forget watching Arya kill the Night King for the first time! My mouth was just hanging open.
@themajesticcamel Жыл бұрын
I mean there was him giving her the dagger I guess? 🤷♂️
@brynnakindle7935 Жыл бұрын
@@themajesticcamel Oh yes, forgot about that. I guess we were meant to assume that he already knew what was going to happen, so he was just like "I'll just chill here."
@thinkhector Жыл бұрын
I was thinking about this while Spartan was nit-picking, and I came up with an idea. (Granted I didn't think of this when it originally aired.) But, Bran could have attacked the whites with his dire wolves just before Aria attacked at a slight distraction to help her out a bit. That would have made some sense.
@Daminionz Жыл бұрын
@@thinkhector yeah he just legit did nothing lmao. this is where the lazy writing begins. give me few minutes and I'd think of smtn more epic than what was given to Bran, am surprised these producers/writers getting paid millions a month couldn't be bothered to invest more thought.
@BhBc8f8 Жыл бұрын
@@themajesticcamel Except he said "i'm going to go now" where did he go? Even Spartan thought Bran was going to so something. what did he do? nothing.
@mindshiftershub. Жыл бұрын
Perfect first reaction! Exactly what I was hoping for! I first watched your reaction and the read some of the comments. That is why I love your reactions sooo much! I was so emotional the first time I watched season 8, that I did not know how to react. All the logical thinking went out the window 😂 only after the emotions wore off a bit and rewatched some parts I saw all the countless plot holes. Still, I can absolutely relate to your first ever reactions and people in the comments seems to expect you to just smile and point out all the stuff that are not ok. But then they forget we had like years to have these episodes processed and dissected. I don't know about everyone else, but I felt exactly the same like you did the FIRST time I watched it. I was emotional, I could not breath and I did not think about war tactics. All this came later. You are perfect, guys! ❤
@SpartanandPudgey Жыл бұрын
❤️❤️🙏🏼 yes we can definitely see the plot holes now in hindsight
@t.j._fury Жыл бұрын
I am in 100% agreement with you. The 1st time I watched this episode, it was too emotional for me to be able to process anything else except the atrocious lightning 🙄 lol.
@newtonowaga2250 Жыл бұрын
Daenerys: "Dracarys" Night King: WTF Am I a joke to you? Who do you think I am, Dickon Tarly?
@merykhan97 Жыл бұрын
"I can't see anything" . Exactly, Spartan . EXACT-FU*KING-LY RIP to Queen Lyanna Mormont, the Giant slayer . And to Theon, he did Ned proud during his last moments.
@Mic-Mak Жыл бұрын
21:26 Make no mistake. *Ramin Djawadi* is doing all the heavy lifting, not just in this episode, but in this entire season!
@anthonyleecollins9319 Жыл бұрын
MVP
@kbaylor123 Жыл бұрын
Oh man, seriously!
@Mike90317 Жыл бұрын
Ramind Djawadi is the Prince that was promised.
@awesimo4684 Жыл бұрын
The old Maestars were right all along. It wasn't a big deal.
@arobin6695 Жыл бұрын
Sam could have just hung out at the Citadel studying and nothing would have changed in this battle.
@BhBc8f8 Жыл бұрын
They received a raven from D&D.
@awesimo4684 Жыл бұрын
@@arobin6695 Back to shoveling shit Tarly
@gulshanbisht Жыл бұрын
Someone dies in his bed. Pudgey be like "yeah that was his purpose". Someone get murdered. Pudge again "yeah that was his purpose". 😂😂😂
@CourtneyAndBooks Жыл бұрын
we waited 9 years for that episode! We actually watched it as a big group on premier night and i cried the whole time like pudgey hahaha
@Jon.A.Scholt Жыл бұрын
The plan for defending Winterfell "It's Opposite Day! Do everything that is completely illogical!"
@TheMe0wsCat Жыл бұрын
Naa... just sending the cavalry in first... being outside the castle walls rather than behind them... ceasing to use catapults after that first salvo... not having more than one trench for fire (or only a thin trench)... landing and staying on the ground with the dragons so they lose all the benefit of being, ya know, dragons... putting the women and children in a place surrounded by the dead... oh... I guess you're right. Opposite Day it is. 🥲
@orphanedhanyou7 ай бұрын
There is an endless army of bodies. The goal isn't to magically win the battle. It's to keep Bran alive until the Night King can be drawn out. Keeping the waves of attack varied & spaced out is just buying time vs trying to win.
@Jazz-Singher Жыл бұрын
I wonder what the effect of binging the show after it’s release does to someone’s perspective of the ending. Because if you watched it for years like some of us, to watch the show become so well known and cover every inch of pop culture entertainment, for its main villain and conflict to end like this… is so incredibly disappointing and frustrating. “Winter is coming” was said for years, well it came and lasted one episode.
@Hero_Of_Old Жыл бұрын
@@whateverdoesntmatter9868ahh just let them enjoy it. Its fun to watch even though I hated this season.
@derps0n839 Жыл бұрын
It plays differently for people who binge watch the whole thing. Plus they watched House of the Dragon first.
@magicbrownie1357 Жыл бұрын
Great show. Great episode. Great ending.
@hirvale Жыл бұрын
@@whateverdoesntmatter9868tbh, it's not unnatural for them to hang on to the things they like about the show until the very end of the show and only turn on it in hindsight then. Like for me, while I was somewhat disappointed in this episode, I told myself that if they're deciding to blitz through the Long Night, it must mean they have some really good stuff they want to get to afterwards. It's only at the end that I accepted that there is no twist or upside the the mediocre choices the creators made in the latest seasons.
@koko4620 Жыл бұрын
From a binging perspective, they haven't had the chance to re-watch the whole show yet as we all did for years before these last two seasons... They will probably only feel it when they re-watch and it can think "yeah wtf were they thinking", truly feels like two different shows
@kevincarvalho5054 Жыл бұрын
I agree with Spartan that this could be the finale for me
@TheMe0wsCat Жыл бұрын
Might should have been.
@t.j._fury Жыл бұрын
It IS the finale for me. Lmao
@cheese012 Жыл бұрын
Would be a worse ending
@johnmorris1009 Жыл бұрын
It should have been and would have been an OK one, with some fairly major tweaks to it here and there.
@IbraJOfootball Жыл бұрын
ah fuck
@jbail2547 Жыл бұрын
Even people who like season 7 and 8 must be able to see that it is a completely different show
@kellifranklin9872 Жыл бұрын
I enjoyed season 7 and 8 and accepted them for what they were. The writing was very different and extremely disappointing in a few of the storylines. For me the last 2 seasons don’t define how wonderful this show is overall. This will be my favorite show until the end of days. Of course I’m still hoping a certain sequel is made to fix what was definitely broken in the series finale! Lol
@jbail2547 Жыл бұрын
@@kellifranklin9872 that's completely fair! I tried to accept them but failed and really fell out of love with what was my favourite show . Hotd has actually bought back some of my love of the universe which I'm grateful for.
@lionhead123 Жыл бұрын
it was bad, but what really killed it was the random death of Rhaegal. Literally the writers going: "i can't think anything anymore, fuck it all."
@Adam-xg1ch Жыл бұрын
@@lionhead123 "dany kind of forgot about the iron fleet." that line from Benioff is when i was sure they had absolutely no idea what they were doing.
@jbail2547 Жыл бұрын
@@Adam-xg1ch you held on for a while! I lost confidence in season 5 when they butchered dorne, and littlefingers character by giving sansa away. Arguably a stupid decision by Roose as well.
@luigicavallo270 Жыл бұрын
What is dead may never die but rises again, harder and stronger! Theon was both a Greyjoy and a Stark!
@KSDVLmom Жыл бұрын
As soon as I saw the Spartan and pudgey lights off I knew they were taking us seriously about this episode and my heart flutters
@bobsaget9675 Жыл бұрын
They clearly said they listened to their mods, not the comments.
@jonathanlorio3265 Жыл бұрын
@@bobsaget9675 they’re not very smart… lol
@bobsaget9675 Жыл бұрын
@jonathanlorio3265 no listening skills in this generation.
@KSDVLmom Жыл бұрын
@@bobsaget9675 God you 2 are special aren't you? I'm 52 and Todd the mods in the beginning if their reactions to make sure they were ready to tell them to brighten for this ep. SOOOO ...
@KSDVLmom Жыл бұрын
@@jonathanlorio3265 you too
@LegenDaeria Жыл бұрын
Let's remember that in this episode Daenerys saved Jon's life for the second and third time
@drrohanjacob Жыл бұрын
Jon was mostly useless while 2 girls saved the world while a tree was napping
@strangebotwin- Жыл бұрын
@@drrohanjacobyes, but Jon screamed in a dragon’s face. So, you know… 😂
@Andre_APM Жыл бұрын
She saved everyone multiple times and i'm sure Sansa will be so grateful next episode
@LegenDaeria Жыл бұрын
@@Andre_APM I loved this comment
@drrohanjacob Жыл бұрын
@@Andre_APM Lets not froget no one says sansa is the smartest person ever🤣 Sansa was by far the worst
@cara2290 Жыл бұрын
Hilarious how Jons last attempt at taking out Viserion was to scream at him, he thought he was going to die regardless, so he decided to scream, not attack, just scream lol.
@hirvale Жыл бұрын
It would have been more epic for him if he picked up burning debry, threw them in one direction while in cover and move in the other direction, slide under the beast in its moment of distraction and slash it's neck from beneath.
@VictorSilva-sc4hh Жыл бұрын
Motherfucker thought he was Dragonborn. 😂
@drakethesnek6429 Жыл бұрын
The point was to subvert his story arc by giving his victory over the night king to arya.
@nicholassmith7984 Жыл бұрын
What was he to do? Valerian steel sword or no, it's a frikkin' dragon.
@nicholassmith7984 Жыл бұрын
@drakethesnek6429 Who says Jon was going to do it? It's a bit of a cliche.
@jaybees5734 Жыл бұрын
Dumb and Dumber hated the high fantasy aspect of the world. Thats why Bran and the Others were not focused on as much as they should've been.
@littlegiant9131 Жыл бұрын
Watching a Spartan and Pudgy reaction b4 bed, one hell of a way to end a day.
@kidgforce1 Жыл бұрын
Theon should have had a bow with dragonglass arrows. He was always good with the bow, not so with sword and spear.
@Calinn86 Жыл бұрын
If the dragon fire didn't kill the NK, it's probable that dragonglass wouldn't have either. They didn't know that, of course, but just saying.
@lucas.2.3.9.4 Жыл бұрын
@@Calinn86surely Sam told them dragonglass kills white walkers
@araceli2827 Жыл бұрын
True, he can use his arms
@kidgforce1 Жыл бұрын
@@araceli2827 Reminds me of one of my early English lessons: "Beowulf didn´t fight with arms, he only fought with his arms.
@bomara66 Жыл бұрын
You two had a much different reaction to this episode than I did. 😂
@BhBc8f8 Жыл бұрын
Atmosphere is intense, emotions are high, can't see shit. It's different in the moment.
@Desithemidget Жыл бұрын
@@BhBc8f8that’s what I was gonna say. When I first watched it I liked it a lot. About a couple of days later and a lot of thinking I changed my opinion a log
@reekaren2609 Жыл бұрын
I had similar reaction as they did, and then I started thinking about it and I was like wtf was that?
@noneofyourbeeswax01 Жыл бұрын
@@reekaren2609 So what's the problem? If you like what you saw, does it really matter what you feel years or days later?
@chrisw3024 Жыл бұрын
@@noneofyourbeeswax01 Yes. The sad, pathetically stupid ending to an epically awesome series matters (to the extent a TV show ever matters). It kills the rewatchability of the series, kills the feeling that this was one of the great shows of all time. It all ends up in a moronic, anti-climatic ending that abandons every hint of foreshadowing, betrays every subplot and character, and smothers one's memory of GoT overall. Not just this (boring, stupid, dingy) ending to the "Ice" aspect of the song of fire and ice. But the remaining episodes as well. Hot garbage from this point to the end. This show wasn't great because of the visuals (although those were top-notch). It wasn't great because of the acting (also very good throughout). It was great because of the writing! And that died a horrible, humiliating death in season 8.
@Softcloner Жыл бұрын
Maybe David Benioff and Dan Weiss just... FORGOT how to write? See what i did there?
@littlebabyclover Жыл бұрын
Arya killed the Night King in the same place she was reunited with Jon. In that scene he says to her "how did you sneak up on me?".
@johnmorris1009 Жыл бұрын
I felt a bit like you two did after I first saw the episode; kind of emotionally exhausted and a bit lost for words. Then I thought about it a bit later and realises how disappointed I was, especially with the arya bit. Such an unearned kill of the night king. It should have been Jon or Bran that killed him, not someone who'd never seen him before and didn't know anything about him. It was also a huge missed opportunity, in terms of explaining what the meaning behind the white walker symbols was and why the night king wanted to rule. GOT could never recover from this, as far as I was concerned.
@bellaconroy9527 Жыл бұрын
Literally the build up of all the cryptic symbols and their desire to take over - then for it to just end leaving the night king as this one-dimensional villain. And don’t get me started on the emphasis on Bran’s powers, for them to literally serve zero purpose as well 😅
@Mike90317 Жыл бұрын
Same, once the shock passes, the many cracks became very evident.
@jaydeodwyer100311 ай бұрын
I know this episode is utterly shit and disappointing in so many ways. So many things left unanswered it just goes to show they were doing it for the visual wow factor as opposed to keeping it true to character story lines and build ups over the past seasons. I really really hate the choices of this season. There were so many other possibilities they could have gone with.
@Anthony-tq4di Жыл бұрын
what makes the dothraki scene even worse is that melisandre showed up at literally the last minute without anyone knowing. so the plan was to send them charging with just regular weapons, no flame, which we’ve been shown time and time again will not stop a single wight. so yea the plan was to lose thousands of soldiers while literally not killing 1 enemy. thanks d&d!
@suzannefereti8952 Жыл бұрын
Omg, I couldn't wait for your reaction to this episode and loved it so much. Pudgey had me teary as soon as it started and no words to Spartan crying 😢....even though I've watched this series sooo many times, your reaction brought up all the feels again. Thanks guys 😊❤
@Mic-Mak Жыл бұрын
37:40 *_"And so Arya kills the Night King._* _Arya. Who has had no meaningful story connection with the fight against the White Walkers. She was the last member of House Stark to return to Winterfell and the least involved in the preparations to fight. This comes perhaps a little bit out of left field. The showrunners later stated that they chose Arya to kill the Night King specifically to subvert expectations. Meaning that they set up seven and a half seasons of other people being more involved with this plot and Arya not being very involved with this plot only to throw it away for a “fooled you!” While I’m sure it was satisfying to the writers, it’s not very much fun for a viewer. When we invest years in watching characters realise the extent of their problems and seek to solve them, having the writers yank the payoff away right at the very end with a _*_“nope! Someone else solved it!’_*_ is not a good return."_ _"Plus, while _*_“wow, wouldn’t have picked that!”_*_ is the end result, it’s not the _*_“I wouldn’t have picked that!”_*_ which comes from creative use of foreshadowing and careful structural and thematic development so that everything falls into place in an unexpected yet logical way. This is the “I wouldn’t have picked that!” which resulted from there being nothing to pick at all. It’s a plot twist divorced from the plot."_ *-TURTLE PACED*
@kriskelvin57754 ай бұрын
Perfectly stated.
@trevorharris4647 Жыл бұрын
Theon told John before he went and saved his sister that he always wanted to be a good person. He just didn’t always know what was always right.
@simmonb80 Жыл бұрын
Seeing Spartan getting genuinely emotional was a beautiful thing to watch.
@Trepanation21 Жыл бұрын
Cumulatively, Spartan almost shed an entire 1/4 of a half of a tear from his non-firing eye 😔
@simmonb80 Жыл бұрын
@@Trepanation21 you don't need to burst into floods of tears to show emotion.
@Nikolas584210 ай бұрын
I didn't like not being able to see anything for 90% of the battle, 99% characters surviving being literally swarmed by undead (we see them being almost ripped apart and almost dying) just because they needed to and had plot armour. And then super human Arya ending the biggest threat of the world by doing super jump at Night King and tricking him with dropping dagger?? He literally could have strangled her in 1 second, but D&D just wanted that army of the dead nuisance fast out the picture. So they could focus on more important stuff like ending this show quickly, and then they could get to work on their Star Wars project (and they didn't even got it in the end 🤣). It's just too bad it had to end this way...
@ALiYazdani77 Жыл бұрын
the one she had lost: khal drogo the one she had found: jon snow the one who had loved her the most: jorah mormont
@Verdent777 Жыл бұрын
This show was 10 years of my life!! Loved every moment. Hence why I come to watch through the eyes of others. Possibly I’ve watched the whole lot at least 7 or 8 times. Still you learn something. Was a journey of emotional rollercoaster.
@DrHoneySmacks Жыл бұрын
I sometimes get the feeling that they actively try to love it just so that they can love it. Spartan or Pudgey will point out the largest plot hole, weak storytelling, or wasted potential and then follow it up with "this episode was fantastic". Also, I completely disagree that "any way the White Walkers are defeated would be unfulfilling". Spartan is lying when he said he didn't want Jon to 1v1 the Night King and win. That would have been epic. That was clearly where the story was going. They even bring up all of the stare offs and close calls between the Night King and Jon. It is a pretty clear attempt to "subvert expectations" to have Arya gain the ability to fly just so that she can kill the Night King while Jon... has a staring contest with a dragon... The thing about subverting expectations is that it can easily be done poorly, such as in this episode.
@4brtndr1 Жыл бұрын
That's one of the pitfalls of binge-watching a show with hardly any breaks between episodes. You get caught up in all of it without having the benefit of time to stand back and really digest what happened in an episode before you're on to the next one.
@jema.flores Жыл бұрын
😂 Somebody told me recently in the comments that that's because their channel grew a lot bcs of this series so they have "special considerations" let's say with GOT. That's the better explanation I can find 😅.
@awesimo4684 Жыл бұрын
All reactors over-like the thing they are watching.
@SpartanandPudgey Жыл бұрын
to be honest its just as simpme as fresh off watching this episode it was an absolutely beautiful spectacle. after some digestion time we were both able to see how much missed potential there was in the way it ended and how many plot holes were left unanswered. that's often the benefit of hindsight and for many having years to dogest. we are just giving our fresh and live feelings as we go.
@nexeroth7151 Жыл бұрын
@@SpartanandPudgeydon't listen to haters this episode was friggin awesome. You can literally watch videos of theatre's of people celebrating at the end of this episode.
@Fauss Жыл бұрын
Sam surviving hours in the front.. Thats likely :D
@Nihilanth Жыл бұрын
Friendly reminder that Daenerys picking up a sword & fighting was Emilia's idea. She understands the character more than the two dumbasses who were paid to write for her. she knew that Dany would never just stand by, watch her people die for her and do nothing. "though young girls have been known to be fickle. i may still want a magic sword.” - Daenerys, ADWD "a queen am i. i would led the attack if i must. and die for them if need be." - Daenerys, ASOS
@hesammalekzadeh1943 Жыл бұрын
Robert baratheon to night king after life : you let that little girl disarm you🤨😒 😅😅😂😂
@LegenDaeria Жыл бұрын
Sansa badmouthing Daenerys while the latter was fighting to save Winterfell
@reddeaddave4675 Жыл бұрын
sansa is the most overrated, power hungry character in the show. she only cares about her rank and sacrifced half of the northenrs fighting in the battle of the bastards just so she could be the savior of the battle.
@LegenDaeria Жыл бұрын
@@reddeaddave4675 Totally agree. And she risked Jon's life twice in the show...
@Stillo524 Жыл бұрын
I wish Sansa was killed by Joffrey lol
@stacywhisenant6242 Жыл бұрын
@@reddeaddave4675You do remember her arguing with Jon they didnt have enough men. Her sending a raven to Littlefinger with no guarantee he would show up and not hand her back to Ramsey. She had Brienne threaten LF. LF never forgives slights. He brought the army when he wanted to bring them. Jon running to save Rickon instead of sending anyone else caused his army to forget their tactics.
@reddeaddave4675 Жыл бұрын
@@stacywhisenant6242she didnt even tell john we might have the eyries army. You dont think she could have said..."jon wait a bit we might have the eyrie on our side" she is the one who already gave up on ricon before the battle even started. Probably happy cause she thought she was the only stark left at that point. She is beyond saving the actions she did
@toniwhiteman5791 Жыл бұрын
New drinking game... Every time Spartan says holy sh*t I have a drink 😂😂
@kbaylor123 Жыл бұрын
Or “far out!” 😂
@t.j._fury Жыл бұрын
Or "No way!" Lol
@deriuk4412 Жыл бұрын
thank gendry for giving arya the extra boost last night
@BobGnarley. Жыл бұрын
🤣
@courtxkim Жыл бұрын
Seeing just how much you both care for each of these characters and their fate this episode is such a nice reminder that this show really was something special. We were all so invested in every single one of their stories. I will never ever forgive season 8.
@tamleyburds8750 Жыл бұрын
Same tbh
@rx7dude2006 Жыл бұрын
A lot of people loved it and rightfully so.
@courtxkim Жыл бұрын
@@rx7dude2006 And a lot of people did not. My point is season 8 divided the shows amazing, invested and dedicated fanbase.
@TheDanieel Жыл бұрын
8 years. 8 years of build up and hype for this battle. Winter was coming. And the army of the dead goes out with a whimper. The most anticlimactic crap and an insult to fans. There should have been at least 5 main character deaths... actual stakes and repercussions for the biggest threat in the entire series. Oh well.
@K-J-A Жыл бұрын
20:18 I can't believe she said that about Bran... I'm dying 🤣💀💀 I pictured Bran casually getting up and walking away. 🚶
@allocat586 Жыл бұрын
This is where I leave you on this journey. Love the journey, thank you for taking us on it again!
@usgreth Жыл бұрын
*high fives* Also the last episode I watch on re-watches :)
@DrewDragoon Жыл бұрын
The show was always a Shakespearean tragedy and it was always going to end the way it did. It's fine if you don't like it however.
@kmckenzie778 Жыл бұрын
Imagine setting up the Jon Snow vs Night King duel and prince that was promised of ice and fire for 8 seasons then making the writing decision for Arya to kill the night king. Awful, just awful
@jamesw7072 Жыл бұрын
"I've heard stories about you bastard. They way Northmen talk you're the greatest swordsman that ever lived" - Ramsey Bolton.
@QroMan13 Жыл бұрын
i mean you could say the same for arya as melisandra said she would shut blue eyes way early on but i agree it shouldve been john
@Noclaf555 Жыл бұрын
Imagine you are hired to make a show based on a book series that the stupid writer STILL HAS NOT FINISHED!
@bobsaget9675 Жыл бұрын
They had to change all the scripts because people online already figured out the ending. They made every decision on shock value and through the story out the door.
@bobsaget9675 Жыл бұрын
@QroMan13 they change the order to fit the script. Melisandra was clearly talking about Aryas list of names...
@drrohanjacob Жыл бұрын
Ah the short night that we couldn't see
@romainchambard4399 Жыл бұрын
Gnagnagna
@greyman8335 Жыл бұрын
Yeah one of the producers love putting this stupid goddamn filter on. They did it the same in HoTD during that funeral episode..
@keanancupido Жыл бұрын
It was an underwhelming episode
@keanancupido Жыл бұрын
@@greyman8335that HOTD episode was still better than this
@iamthewalrus4998 Жыл бұрын
I loved the episode when i first watched it, but you know, hard not to think about how stupid everything they did was. And it only got worse
@-crixusdingess6562 Жыл бұрын
The night is dark and full of incompetent writers
@nyztan0 Жыл бұрын
F A C T S
@beeyotchielicious9 ай бұрын
I remember someone calling Lyanna stupid and not wise for frontlining when she cohld just stay in the crypt-like what? She was born a WARRIOR what do you expect?
@neilgriffiths6427 Жыл бұрын
"Where can they possibly retreat to?" - I dunno, maybe the large fortified town they are inexplicably standing outside of...!!!
@3DCheese321 Жыл бұрын
the writing in this episode is what sealed for me that this season was no longer salvageable
@rookere1604 Жыл бұрын
do you need a kleenex?
@s.k.l.1826 Жыл бұрын
And yet, removed from the online echo chambers at the time of airing, this "badly written" episode proved effective for new viewers. Hmmnnn...
@ccispahan7514 Жыл бұрын
@22:30 : they are both Oathkeepers, and each of them is wielding half of Ice, the Stark ancestral sword. It is a thing of beauty that Ned’s blade is back in Winterfell to fight the biggest battle the North has ever seen.
@Trepanation21 Жыл бұрын
OATH👏KEEP👏PERS👏
@michelbrewer-yf1ny Жыл бұрын
Yo. I literally ugly cried for almost the entirety of this episode. It's ok to feel guys.♡
@smackyay Жыл бұрын
only if you are a girly
@NeroRedfield Жыл бұрын
At "Theon, you´re a good man. Thank you" i cried like i never had in my life. People hate the last season, but Theon's storyline is one of the best storylines in the series from start to finish. The final satisfaction that came after all his hardships with this thanks is brilliant. I cried tears like peas.
@Mic-Mak Жыл бұрын
37:02 Do I detect tears coming out of Spartan?!
@KirrU_BoY Жыл бұрын
Ramin Djawadi was never pregnant but he always delivered. All hail Ramin Djawadi !
@BhBc8f8 Жыл бұрын
pffff
@Andre_APM Жыл бұрын
Well, that's definitely one way of putting it
@Nattiie Жыл бұрын
Arya killing the Night King was epic, but the show really missed the mark here when it comes to the prophecy of the “prince or princess that was promised”. It was supposed to be a Targaryen, so either Jon or Dany. That didn’t end up going anywhere left GOT fans frustrated.
@Nattiie Жыл бұрын
Even in HOTD if you’d watch it back, Viserys has the exact same dagger Arya used to kill the Night King. Then Viserys talks about the prophecy about a Targaryen (so what happened in GOT) & it really doesn’t make sense why Arya killed him, even though they tried to “foreshadow” a bit to make it makes sense with the Red woman. Neither does why HOTD still pushes this narrative. Hopefully HOTD somehow explains it.
@Bon-Gi Жыл бұрын
Arya killing the Night King would be like Hermione killing Voldemort. Just made no damn sense.
@Blank_e2v Жыл бұрын
You're right and wrong "The prince or princess that was promised" never meant one of them had to kill the Knight king it was never about that I think it meant that one of them was suppose to end up on the Throne in the End and Niether of that happened because the writers changed the show lmao
@Bon-Gi Жыл бұрын
@@Blank_e2v they foreshadowed Jon fighting the Night King for multiple seasons and then did absolutely nothing with it. So disappointing.
@Blank_e2v Жыл бұрын
@@Bon-Gi True but to be fair I think Aryia killing him was foreshadowed way before they start foreshadowing John or associating John with him and it's easy to forget that because Ariya killing him was only foreshadowed once while John foreshadowing was done a lot more after if that makes sense
@michaelsuder486 Жыл бұрын
E eryone talking about Arya being an "assassin". She trained with Syrio for a few minths, was in Braavos for a few months, was with the Hound for a few months. All together she didnt even have kne full year if training. She was not an "assassin", she just had a lot of plot armor
@jhopeur7219 Жыл бұрын
Theon was the best-written character in the whole story and Alfie Allen was the best actor too. Like so many characters ended the series as different people than they began but none of their arcs were as coherent as Theon's. It's like Theon was a fully realized character and every motivation from the first episode to the last came from the same core person. Arya, Bran, Jamie...they all had such sharp turns that made them feel unrecognizable. Even more subtle changes like the one's in the Hound and Sam felt less fleshed out and too indulgent. Theon's was so nuanced and organic and relatable and it made him such a tragic hero of the story. Alfie should have won every Emmy for his performance. And I think his death was a good death--a true redemption--but part of me did want to see his and Sansa's story play out a little more. I'm glad they gave us a glimpse of that potential even if it never manifested.