BMW M5 Wagon Build - Proper Big Brake Upgrade!

[@Nick210]

I love how PT continuously sneaks “and wagon” into his intros.

[@garrettgiuffre7298]

We love it

[@MrGerardgordon]

I just want you all to do one thing when you are finished. ROAD TRIP!

[@ClaytonH1975]

Gerard Gordon, couldn’t agree more!

[@zakkaryfleming6539]

Come to Alberta in a longtime fan would love to meet you guys !

[@timothyer2447]

@@zakkaryfleming6539 I'm in the GTA area and got a chance to chat with PT for 20 or so minutes, as I bought the seat bracket off the E46 drift build. Really nice guy and we could've kept going on about cars forever. Also got a chance to see the abandoned STI and 2JZ M3. Was really nice and cool to meet him!

[@ruthnoya8424]

Better bring a tow truck for the bimmer 🛻

[@georgetsichlis]

Powder coat the rear caliper. The stoptech blue can get easily matched with powder coat!

[@jordangarneau8817]

But then you have to rebuild the caliper , much more work and cost involved

[@crimsonsr20]

Your supposed to use a teflon or silicone based grease for pressing in bushings and to also ensure you won't hear them squeaking later on.

[@Smokkedandslammed]

Those sockets! Thousands of years of human engineering have culminated into those! We have peaked as a civilization. I need to get me a set of those lol

[@Michael_Lorenson]

Where do we get them?

[@aaronhall7740]

Local milwaukee dealer

[@FishyEngineer420]

I’m a new viewer of your channel and I am a huge fan of your format and content. It’s really cool to see a channel that doesn’t skip over parts of the build and has interesting projects. Keep up the good work guys!

[@xozindustries7451]

Pete really needs to wait till after you order parts to start drinking the Canadian Mist, seems to be a lot of misordered parts, probably the reason the stash is so big

[@RayBK8]

Absolutely loving this series ! Cant wait to see both cars completed!

[@stanceworks]

Love seeing these brake weights! And awesome choice with Stop Tech hardware. This wagon is going to be one incredible car when finished up.

[@FootToPedal]

Awesome work guys! Been watching a lot of your stuff recently and I love it. Not sure how I've only just came across your channel, but anyhow keep it up! 👍

[@jonholaday2733]

I've had awesome luck using Tremclad brush on oil based paint on calipers. Lasts years without discolouring or flaking off. This wagon is going to be a riot to drive!

[@upnorthviking823]

Same here! Used vht many years now i just brush it on dont even need to take calipers off!! Did mine 10 years ago still bright red!! Same paint we used on firehydrids!

[@Michael_Lorenson]

Finally, You Tube builders smart enough to use OE-type suspension bushings. There are alternatives, some of which are very good. But the thing is, the ones that are very good are also VERY similar to OEM in hardness, or more accurately 'durometer'. If you can't get OE-type, those alternatives are life-savers. My C4 Corvette is a perfect example of that. There are very good reasons why manufacturers never use use hard poly bushes, even in their high-performance suspension options.

[@Subydude-rp9yv]

By the way. I've noticed your subs are going up. Good for you guys, you deserve every single one. Your strategic rebrand seems to be working. Loving what you guys are doing!

[@riceboy890]

the mini tool reviews placed in the episode are really great

[@abdul_baasitlaatoe7316]

Happy to see the wagon getting some work too. Been awaiting this video to be uploaded. Appreciate this chanel for the work and how thorough you guys work.

[@Vlammenzee]

Painting the calipers with a light color base coat, definitely helps with the final paint layer staying more vibrant, blue over black usually gets quite dark, but yeah it's quite possible aswell that their mixture of the cans is a bit off hehe.

[@hpa101]

Lookin good boys, those square-sided sockets are handy as 🤘 - Taz.

[@JD2ndcity]

Black calipers were defo the right choice Pete, instead of having 3 colours going on, you've only got 3 colours going on 🤣 😘

[@Innovade]

You guys have been killing it lately. So happy for you

[@AznInvasion521]

If I'm not mistaken the StopTech calipers look like they are painted a Ford blue. If I remember correctly rustoleum used to make a caliper paint that color but I believe they still make an engine enamel that's that same color. It's not caliper specific so it's not rated to as high of a temp but it would match perfectly (or at least from 5 ft away).

[@ltbullitt35]

Paint those rear calipers blake. No need to draw attention to them. Fronts look great! Did those sub frame bush on my e91. Huge project at the start of covid. The difference was amazing. Used condor bushings. Perfect balance in stiffness and comfort.

[@SgHawk144]

They do paint them black...

[@BaseSRKI]

Thank you, you guys made my COVID-working day better in my break!

[@witchcraftauto]

You can use any paint to paint Calipers, if you use a VHT primer and a VHT clear over the paint you chose, I've done it loads of times, never had issue with the paint pealing.

[@Kommy_pat]

You can use engine block spary paint. They have the identicaly color blue to the front clipers. I used it on my brembros and it worked no problem.

[@jordangarneau8817]

I want to see these cars cruising our streets this summer boys !

[@Spider_Gooch]

There’s something strangely satisfying about watching a bushings get installed

[@pearsy85]

Loving the build guys. If the discs have curved veins, It looked like the rear disc you showed us was on the wrong side 🤔

[@jpwilliams5264]

Wondered that too

[@Ghanim.M]

I used t think that as well, however, some manufacturers actually design their rotors to have the slots angled the other way

[@pearsy85]

@@Ghanim.M Oh really, didn't know that. The only thing that lead me to think the veins were wrong way, is that the drill holes usually line up with the veins.

[@kreparAZ]

Super cool project. I’m loving this build. Wagons/hatches rule! Them stoptechs looked great 👍🏼

[@carlmcrobcustomgoldsmith11]

Love what you’re doing here, gonna be better than new!

[@willlucas1032]

Just a fun thought about the brake upgrade: removing weight from down low will actually raise the center of gravity (ofc in this case itll be negligible but the effect does exist), but removing weight from the rotors will have a more noticeable positive effect due to it being rotating mass

[@Haukurholland]

Great episode! Love the detailed suspension overhaul

[@rhodepatrick237]

Meyle makes a large number of chassis parts from many manufacturers. Use the parts for my BMW E46 and the E91 from my wife. The accuracy of fit and workmanship are great. Is very well known in the BMW scene next to Lemförder. Best regards

[@McRib47]

very satisfying to see new suspension parts going on!

[@HFMartini6]

the Meyle Parts are really top notch, if you're looking for a Part with lifetime warranty that will last really a lifetime.

[@PANTYEATR1]

i have a serious question and some comments...for the big brake kit, how are you honing to correct the brake bias? i have the Stoptech ST-40s on my mustang and during a panic stop, only the front d/s wheel locked up and squared my Pirelli tire😢 second, have the paint guy match the Stoptech blue, then get the 500° primer and 500° clear from the auto parts store. that's how you do it. it's always nice to have the right tools, the job is allot less stressful. love the video guys💪

[@bilteman_hukkaportti]

Stock m5 have good brakes, 520-528i e39 have aluminium calipers but the front ones are just 296mm, those 540i fronts are little heavy but good enough for street use and for doing some laps in racing circuit 😊

[@heyhayhay247]

I've had great success using engine enamel from a spray can. They have way more color options. Those front's look like a Ford blue to me.

[@ianm432]

Use regular spray paint that matches. I was in the camp of "you must use caliper paint to hold up in that environment" and it's not a huge deal. I've had caliper paint fail or fade and I've never ever had regular rustoleum fail or even fade. If you service the caliper when you are supposed to you can touch up a vibrant colour at that time.

[@MystElectric]

I'm getting my calipers done by Cerakote, they can probably mix something to match for you! Or Stop Tech may be able to provide the paint to help you match it

[@0778mike]

Great video, I might have a go at my 3 series’ subframe bushings after watching this. Cheers!

[@thewheeltroll1833]

This is such a proper build, should be amazing once done!

[@JustinJehle]

Love it keep it going boys. Oh I'm in Texas, ya'll can have your weather back. It's gonna be like -9 this week, that never happens in South Texas.

[@Wiggins_Racing]

It's been snowing non stop here in Hamilton since yesterday morning:( we don't want it back!

[@JustinJehle]

@@Wiggins_Racing lol, I don't know how you northern guys do it.

[@Wiggins_Racing]

@@JustinJehle little secret, neither do we. I cry everytime a bit on the inside

[@JayTekPerth]

Woowww you bought a slim spanner!!! Bravo so creative and bold!!!

[@mm8436]

I would love to see you guys do something with the cars afterwards. More track days, daily drive it and provide feedback.

[@bigmikes2140]

Surprised you didn’t replace the axles and pinion seals while the diff was out or did I miss that part. Definitely the leak back there. Were the ball joints in the rear knuckles not bad? Seem like every e39 I work on needs them replaced

[@tuwabangka]

nice job mate, can't wait until all finish

[@zenerii]

You guys forgot to replace key item on the rear suspension even though you took the time and replaced integral link. The low ball joint that is. :)

[@jrsugalski5983]

Yep! Definitely want to press it out and put in a new one. It's fairly easy to do with the right tool.

[@Konstantin_Chertkoev]

I was really looking forward to this part of the video! I was interested to see how you do it

[@Sf_Mason]

Can confirm, Meyle HD products are definately decent products, have front arms on my E46 and they're taken a couple of trips to the Nurburgring, Donington and Silverstone and still in good condition.

[@SinghM3]

I would love if you guys did a track build with a budget e92 m3, would be killer

[@TML34]

There’s no such thing as a “budget m3.” 😅

[@SinghM3]

@@TML34 I don’t know man you find a nice one under 100k and budget for rod bearings and these cars are solid

[@TML34]

@@SinghM3 The problem is, used m3’s usually have the shit beat out of them. Very hard to find a clean example for reasonable money. And the problems don’t end with the rod bearings. If you like modifying cars, buy something with an LS motor.

[@Averna222]

I'm sure I'm not the only one that would like to see an actual $6k challenge for car and parts and not a $6k car with thousands in parts. Still a nice build though as usual.

[@030398ryoma]

$2k on brakes, I’m sure the final build will come just under $6k 🙄

[@jordangarneau8817]

Yall go watch the first episode, it was 6 k to purchase each car

[@Averna222]

@@jordangarneau8817 I'm aware of that. I'm just saying I would like to see a 6k challenge, everything included, eventually also. I have no problem with what they are doing now.

[@jordangarneau8817]

Cheers to that man !

[@timocallaghan4408]

@@Averna222 Seems like you might have it with the 335 they showed recently.. 2g's in the car and simple mods on top

[@Stu.motive]

There are special vice grips that are made for grabbing sway bar end links, I’ve got a set from Mac tools and they’re super handy

[@JosepinoRizal]

caliper paint wont fade easily if you put VHT clear coat on it after spraying color paint. painted my caliper with gold wheel paint and coated it with VHT clear coat

[@xtina818]

I used the vht silver and it came out more bronze. Like that taupe beige on the 8th gen civic.

[@bmfairweather]

Great works guys cool stuff. Keep it up

[@markraouf6976]

was fur ein absoluter hammer!!!!!!!!!!! Du hast die Bayriche Stolz gemacht, Sohn . Wohl getan.

[@GMcarsMAN]

Hello guys. I really enjoy what you are doing here. What I fail to understand though is why you didn't put new wheel hubs in the front and reused those rusties instead. I mean if I'm ever this far in overhauling my car, I'll surely swap my hubs too. Or maybe I'm just too over the top. Anyways, great job!

[@MyGoToUserName]

I believe por-15 does a blue caliper paint enamel. I used their kit in black do to my calipers. Much more durable then using VHT in my experience.

[@cdr9er999]

Loving the build but the rusted hubs is killing my ocd w everything else so clean!

[@ChoPi-Eww]

I love seeing this! Stoptech makes some really great kits.

[@josuepaz9446]

I've never had any luck with doormen. iv had 100% failure within a couple of months. love the show though just subscribed 👍🏼

[@blakelongsworth7319]

Those painted calipers look good!

[@DannysGarage]

Also fun fact, the 540it axles are actually thicker than the 540i sedan axles. I'm not 100% sure if they're the same thickness as the M5 axles, but they're plenty beefy so a lot of M5 wagon swaps retain them.

[@theterrible0ne]

angle grinder on a spare wrench also makes a great low cost slim wrench.

[@HPMvdBerg]

Armchair question: why not drop the subframe?

[@jordangarneau8817]

Much more work .

[@supdus]

I have painted calipers with automotive paint - used a high temp primer - paint last 4-5 years before peeling.... you could just powder coat it as well

[@kalv123]

I would have been curious as to why that diff was so dirty in the first place. Dirt usually sticks to oil leaks... Should have changed those seals man. Builds going great though this era m5 wagon would be my dream daily if i had the means and the money to build one. Excited to see it complete.

[@meestahK]

I know stoptech is a reputable brand, but cross drilled rotors? They're just so easy to develop stress cracks around the holes. I'd understand slotted but seriously, a good set of blanks, dedicated pads for the track or street, and higher boiling point fluid is what you want (Endless, Motul, or Castrol SRF if you want to splurge)

[@PGHdrift]

I would like to know cost at end. thanks for videos

[@Jb001jb]

You should do a dry ice cleaning of the underside. Should come out very clean. Like new

[@christopherokeefe7783]

PT catching flack from Dave P. “The Canadian King of Double Entendres “! Seriously DP, I hope your wearing Kevlar slacks after that M5 Touring finishes wiping some Lexus backside! That BMW V8 is going to need auto turret fire extinguishers after it smokes the Flexus

[@christopherokeefe7783]

“Whooping”

[@amutsam]

Pete do you remember when you blew up your S14 and you were looking for a new motor, I posted a comment that you should swap a 2j. You replied to the comment saying that the 2j was gonna get swapped into the e39 wagon. you gonna have to get another e39 wagon shell I been waiting ever since.

[@1MrAc3s]

G2 caliper paint offers color matching options.

[@xozindustries7451]

Were the rear lower control arm bushings still good? I’m kinda surprised you didn’t upgrade all the bushings with poly or urethane from that other company you guys were using

[@Peachan123]

The $5k you spent on coilovers and brakes is nutty. Could you have gotten some OEM 4 piston calipers from another BMW to fit, for a lot less?

[@kruledesign]

you can paint brake calipers with "normal" paint, even the front ones. or powder coating way better solution

[@afroman5531]

In alot of applications, normal paint will break down form heat over time

[@kruledesign]

@@afroman5531 but if you do good preparations, color will last long. brakes are not quite hot as you think

[@pedrocacao5081]

You shouldn't put WD40 on rubber bushings when installing them, because it dries up the material What you should have used is silicone spray, just like you do when you install polyurethane Cheers from PT!

[@Charliestechgarage]

Something I learned as mechanic, you always torque bushings and every suspension rubber with the weight of the car so the rubber don’t tear, hopefully they see this comment

[@dumb280zpat]

Agreed! And silicone lube prior to install. Also, all that work to clean oil and grime off the diff, then not replace the seals, especially with it off the car. It’ll start leaking as soon as they fill it

[@mondomoleno.3404]

Need to get PT some of the blue plastic wire cover from the early 00s to match the blue theme.

[@vongdong10]

Regarding the caliper paint. Can't you use a high heat primer, then normal spray paint and finish with a high heat clear?

[@PinoIX]

Maybe get the rear calipers powder coated?! Might be able to match the StopTechs... plus be very durable

[@z_855turboR]

Best solution for the rear brakes color - get a Stoptech raer bbk:P

[@540idioT]

y’all are building my literal dream car i’m so freaking jealous i don’t have the money to do this to my 525it :’(

[@RedSport555]

I don’t think 525 is compatible with m5 engine

[@afroman5531]

Ls swap 👀

[@ruthnoya8424]

@@afroman5531 There's an ls swapped 5 series about 15 miles away from me...been for sale for damn near a year.

[@afroman5531]

ouch, how much is he selling that for?

[@vitalisdeikus5812]

@@RedSport555 bmw chassis are literally the same, 525it means that he had 5 series with 2.5l engine, same way it goes with this 540i wagon that they are converting to m5 touring, it's a 5 series with 4l engine, i don't know if you knew this, hope you do now

[@MyGoToUserName]

6:30 This is why your tool box ends up costing many thousands of dollars 😆. Well I need this.. $80 bucks at a time. 👍

[@afroman5531]

Use it once to take that specific part off, then on.. then never again..

[@tomreinhardt6647]

Loving this build series you guys! Looking at the thumbnail pic for this vid I really hate the location of the air filter on the M5 wagon tho.

[@sebastianvortex4579]

[my leh] Meyle HD I am also running on my E36. Don't especially avoid potholes and there are plenty here. Still no signs of wear after 60k+

[@hyde_official]

I have just completed upgrading the brake system as well on my F30. I am curious, how much did it cost you? did you get the full set of only the rear? @speedacademy

[@PersonA-r5e]

I have had 0 success with Doorman. Is there a difference between their OEM and Premium lines that makes them worth consideration?

[@antbymcnair4297]

SNAP!! The cookie sheet is back!

[@joshuathomas1986]

I live in Alberta and was wondering where you get the new fuel ratchet? Been checking around and can’t find one for sale yet.

[@TheJediJoker]

Why the holey brake rotors? Not a performance upgrade over plain or slotted, especially for track use.

[@rahulkalra8989]

Why not white for the calipers? That would definitely stand out and not clash?

[@doeieeh]

Amazing build!

[@nautilus-salvo]

was it more work to drop the subframe rather than do all that work with it in place?

[@ASCONTRACT]

Awesome video like always you guys! Please tell me your not leaving the rusty wheel hubs and they will get painted. Would hate for that to ruin the look with those upgrades.

[@sil89mechanic98]

No, thank you for bringing awesome contents and thank you for your efforts

[@noobasdfjkl]

Why do the rear rotors look like they’re going the wrong way?

[@davidvikken7510]

Looks like he's got it on the wrong side.

[@epiccheatmealday1180]

Pete: So this should be a fairly straightforward install. BMW: Hold my endlinks.

[@vegadanial7240]

you should actually go yellow like the KW springs on the calipers and the rotor's middle thing

[@negerpenis99]

Meyle better than OE, yeah right lol. I recommend to use only Lemförder parts for the suspension, they are the OEM and those parts tend to last way longer than that aftermarket stuff from Meyle, Febi, etc. For replacing the rear swaybar links what makes it much easier to extract the nuts is to jack the hub so you get better access with a wrench. Loving the series!

[@HollyBoni]

lies