Speaker Size vs Room Size: Looking At The Science - AcousticsInsider.com

[@johndaddabbo9383]

A Link to this video seriously needs to be placed on EVERY single audio website / forum known to mankind. In others words, great job! ...explaining away this loooooooong standing myth.

[@soltan_sound]

I love you soo much dude, that's exactly what I needed. I had this same picture in my head but needed some professionals approval.

[@Jantimsen]

Thanks for this! I’m moving to a smaller room and was a bit worried my speakers would be to large. 👍🏻

[@da6640]

You should add a tag in your video like "studio monitor placement" and/or "speaker positioning" as I was searching for that and couldn't find your video but your video is extremely helpful on that subject. Thanks

[@bcornels]

This has answered questions I have actively searched for for months. Thanks!

[@BaljeetSingh-nm8hu]

Your speach and ascent is very clear, explanation is very good. Keep up God bless you.

[@svarogstudio]

Great video! I love how you explained something that was my logic for years, and that is to get a good full range monitor, and not be afraid it has "too much bass" for the room. You can always attenuate the sub if you want, but you still have it if you need it and want to hear it.

[@curtisjudd]

Thanks for this Jesco - very helpful!

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[@jamshedmaloo3677]

I love your lucid presentation style. Simple n to the point. Would love if you could do a video on tone /timbre/ pitch. Would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance 🙏🏻

[@IsabelDuarte-o2v]

Wow....Loved it!!! I have been so frustrated in getting my room set up, due to space and size, great and economical tip on getting the small speaker to test the room ... 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@josephmalloy7989]

After so many years on KZbin seeking information on so many subjects, this was the most dead on for my needs that I have found in years. I felt like I paid for a direct consultation! I want the ADAM A77H monitors so bad but my room is like 8.5ft by 11ft and may be too small for those but I will go use the test in the provided link. I’m really hoping that the evaluation will result in me being able to use those monitors. It’s really petty but I have wanted monitors with that dual woofer, vertical orientation for sooooooo many years and for more the look than the actual performance which is pathetic I know but there is some truth to loving the way your work station looks and being happy considering you will be sitting there for hours daily. I really want 3way monitors badly and I hope these will work. Anyway sorry for writing a book but I am really thankful for this post and will try to direct as much traffic to you site as I can. Great job bro! 👊🏽👊🏽👊🏽👊🏽

[@santibanks]

I think the line of reasoning applied in speaker size vs room is more of a different practical nature: Small room sizes are difficult to treat for good low end representation, to the point where the treatment takes up lots of physical space-which is impractical and often not even physically "possible", depending on the actual dimensions we are talking about. Therefor, take a set of speakers which doesn't go all the way down in order to avoid problems in the low end. It is true that you will therefor miss out on these frequencies, but the argument is that they will not be well represented anyways. In other words: the actual "rule" is to assess any kind of low end on headphones in small rooms as that will give a more accurate translation than any speaker + treatment setup would give (and for less cost). The idea of "overpowering" should be interpreted as exciting low-end room modes, not interpreted as SPL (cq wattage). This also makes sense because there is no principle correlation between driver size and SPL.

[@abuanwp]

True! Big speakers don't overpower your room because you can just lower the volume. I've auditioned the Edifier A100 vs A300 at the store in the same controlled room with the same decibel measurements.. The A300 with bigger driver sounds bigger than the smaller A100, infact if you listen to them side by side, A100 sounds honky. I'm not talking loudness here, they are set the same loudness levels and the A300 sounds wider and more airy. As per store owner, nobody picks up an A100 if they don't mind the box size and base only on the sound quality.

[@pauljohn5584]

I think it's summed up at 9 minutes. No matter what, you're going to have to deal with it sooner or later. That can almost apply to every single topic within room acoustics. You can't know what's going on or how to fix it until you start working. Some realizations creep up slowly, some appear like a light switch turning on, some epiphanies turn out to be correct once implemented- others are epic fails.... There are of course a handful of "rules of thumb" but ultimately, it's all so very subjective and more importantly situational. You can't nuke experience.

[@ELISHACAEZ]

That's why it helps to have a friend who has experience like that, To get ahead of other studios in a competitive environment you really can't lack on acoustic treatment so that should be your focus first.

[@GR8Tmate]

Well said

[@khairulamilin9687]

my room is only 3mx3m yet my setup is 5.1.2. 620f tower, 10inch sub. sound awfully at first, but its heavenly after i installed carpet, basstrap etc. im so happy now

[@santibanks]

completely within Dolby specs too

[@RemoFiore]

Extremely helpful video....just one thing...maybe you could make a video on how to figure out the sweet spot for the speakers and listening position...! That would be very very helpful

[@GtailS]

it's a site that calculates the perfect speaker/listening position :)

[@tnbee]

thanks this is helpful!

[@rivella99]

Thank you very much. I have Hedd Audio Type 20 in a 12m2 and was actually thinking about a downgrade. No way after that video.

[@DoctorJRx]

This is exactly my experience. Small room got 5 inch monitors. What I found was I had to crank the volume up to the higher end and the sound was distorting a bit , so what I was hearing wasn't clean. Got 7 inch monitors ..perfect size no need to crank the volume up past 75%. At 50% the volume I'm hearing clean but loud sound. So my advice is get monitors that you only need 50% of the volume for your hearing needs. Anything past 75% volume is no good.

[@who_is_dis]

To be fair, you shouldn't be mixing loud anyway - fatigues your ears faster and if loud enough can damage them over time. Theres a sweet spot where you actually hear more detail. Crank it once in a while to get more of a consumer feel / different perspective. Also he said, it's not even about volume but headroom. So yeah bigger than 5's is best. I prefer 8's.

[@timoluetk]

So helpful, thanks!

[@BrianVallotton]

Thank you. I really enjoyed your presentation. Very helpful. I also asked for your helping tool as well.

[@jamesmettle2]

2 mins in n I subscribed.. wonderful

[@StefBorremans]

Just the advice I needed! Thank you!

[@playonkorg]

The first vid op YT that examines the content of sound technology before choosing your monitors instead of playing compressed hip-hop music and which monitor has the best twingelingg.

[@lundsweden]

I have a tiny spare room which I make music/mix in. I have a pair of Yamaha HS5, which are great! I am thinking of matching the HS5 with the HS8S sub, rather than selling the HS5 and buying say a pair of HS8. I don't think I have the room for HS8, as this video suggests. The benefit of the HS8S is it goes really low, lower than the HS8, but I guess the disadvantage is the sub bass is not in stereo. There is an argument that low frequencies don't need to be in stereo, as we can't percieve the stereo field with low frequencies. Some people have two subs, which personally I think is A) Unnessasary B) Takes up a lot of space C) Very expensive! What do other people think about this?

[@cal3033]

i think it‘s true that we can‘t perceive the stereo field of sub frequencies, so placing one sub anywhere in your room where it sounds best will do perfectly

[@jorgeandreozzi4945]

incredible useful!! as all your videos. Really is a game changer! thanks you a lot!!

[@donwest5387]

TONE CONTROLS, bass attenuators. Great insight: small enough to put in "proper place"

[@miharejec495]

It's nice to see someone know about Bogić. I am blessed to work in a room he designed. His My Room Acoustic Design v2 with his SM3 XL speakers (the biggest ones he ever bulit). The room is brilliant, especially for such a small room. He really was on to something with his designs. Also. Just found your channel and immediately subscribed. Great content, keep it up

[@AcousticsInsider]

Hey Miha, could you drop me a quick email: [e-mail]? Would love to hear what your experience has been in Bogic's room. Thanks!

[@frankfarago2825]

1. Get a room first. Call it a "sound studio." 2. Get some speakers or monitors that will through the door. 3. Done and done.

[@Echochamber79]

What an eye opener! thank you!

[@Cinestudi0]

This is exactly what i was looking for 🔥

[@PhilippSchaefer]

Very good summary to clarify that topic. Thank you.

[@moretrick]

Brilliant. Really appreciate you sharing all of your knowledge

[@ericharrelson2045]

Thanks for the informative instruction; good video.

[@anatoliasenov2063]

Thank you for this video! Perfect explained! My respect!

[@higherrealityvision6302]

This was very useful!!

[@rome8180]

If you have a room prone to bass buildup, one solution is to get small monitors to mix on but also have some way to check the low end. That could be headphones or a subwoofer you keep off most of the time or taking the mix out to the car. But I'm not sure that a good solution is just to get huge monitors anyway. You'd better be damn sure you're able to treat your room properly if you do that. Otherwise you're not just going to limit your ability to mix the low end. You won't be able to mix anything. I know I'd rather have monitors I can't hear the low end on than monitors I can't hear anything properly on.

[@tomphillpotts]

Like Jesco said, you have to get speakers with a smaller than 5 inch woofer. That's pretty small. 50 Hz is easily within standing wave problem territory.

[@Hamachingo]

In a small room, I'd recommend having a budget and getting a 5" or 6" speaker with good sound, response and headroom rather than getting a bigger speaker with more low end and power that skimps on quality mids and treble. Just double-check your low end with headphones and an analyser. If you're only mixing and delegating mastering (totally different room and gear requirements IMO), you're fine with small speakers, many platinum records were mixed on NS-10 which don't go lower than 60 Hz so just make sure your bass guitar notes are all at similar levels, low cut every other channel and let the mastering engineer do their magic. Consider that your music must be fun to listen to on a laptop, cheap car or smartphone. So if it ain't bumping on smartphone, you might wanna bring out the bass instruments overtones some more so you can at least hear what the bass is playing.

[@ELISHACAEZ]

Bigger Speakers help with Standing Waves?! That's some really good info!

[@danielkarsten1579]

Where do you think I should place my Krk Rokit G4 RP7s? I have a 10ft x 12ft room with a ceiling height of 8ft. It's pretty small so I would appreciate a little advice. I might have got too big of speakers but would like to deal with it. Should I do a 5.8 ratio setup because it's pretty much square instead of rectangle? Should I also follow the 38% rule? Or do you have a better opinion? I have such a small space and if I did the 38% rule, it sure will take up a lot of space. Thanks

[@thirdstringallpro6264]

I have a 11x12 foot dedicated theatre room and I’m doing klipsch 7.2.4 Dolby atmos with 2 15” subs

[@Totalplonker]

Subwoofers always sound best when going at full pelt! Hence the reason I got rid of my conventional boomy boomy sounding12-inch subwoofers and replaced them with a stereo pair of Rel 8 inch subwoofers. Wow What a difference 🥳 But to be fair even though I have an Atmos setup I'm more of a music lover.

[@coolshit1231]

I just bought the yamaha hs80m online, how much different are they from the new hs series?

[@gabo3k3k]

How low volume is still useful for mixing? I know there is a 85dB high safety limit, but I have calibrated my room (6x8ft) with Sonarworks and a SPL meter, I still think 85dB is too low to hear the bass frequencies.

[@akumusik3582]

Gratitude & Appreciation💯

[@brucermarino]

Another excellent presentation. I've been working with the idea of small speakers with specific dispersion characteristics and near field listening into the corner. Any thoughts? Thanks again!

[@jackedkerouac4414]

My studio is 23 sqm and my Yamaha HS5's are perfect for the size. No need to go bigger but I will add a sub later

[@TheGabe92]

Thanks for stating the obvious! The real reason to use smaller speakers in smaller rooms is that you have less space available and speakers take away from that, especially if placed at ideal positions - duh. Of course this is only a consideration if the room has to fulfill other demands than just being a listening room, for example a living room or home office room.

[@fergiethedjtv]

Really great information. What’s your thoughts on that Focal shape 6.5 thanks

[@matthewkitchens5796]

You r a smart fella. This man knows his shit

[@RBHADD]

I have spent loads on my system, room treatments (diffusion, absorption, bass trapping) and am always complimented on how great it sounds. However, sitting on the dock at a lake last week using small blue tooth Get Marley speaker, I heard details (vocals, backgrounds, little guitar licks) from songs I knew well that I simply hadn't in my own room. So, i'm sure this is something to do with the lack of walls and sound waves not bouncing around and possibly cancelling out sounds....but can you provide an explanation from a scientific perspective?

[@who_is_dis]

Probably has more to do with your studio monitors than your room if its treated well.

[@modernbassheads5051]

Yes, sometimes over treating a room eliminates a lot of very high frequencies

[@matthewkitchens5796]

Good video man thank you

[@donk1822]

I have floorstanding TDL Studio 1 transmission lines in my 4.5m x 3.5m man cave, driven by Audiolab 8000M power amps. They fire across the room, the walls of which are pretty much covered in vinyl record shelving either side. There is a large glass window behind the seat where I sit, or lay, to listen. On paper it sounds like a recipe for disaster, and yet I find, providing I don't drive the speakers extremely hard, that the sound more than justifies using them.

[@ElCharvo]

transmission lines are great for big controlled bass,PMC's are my favourites.

[@yordisanders9859]

So the pretty new Neumann Kh120 2's are good enough? They can also be set to your specific room setup/size.

[@samuelbenjamin3156]

This is an amazing experiment 👏.. Tqsm

[@vikasjsheth]

How to find the low end sweet spot?

[@CrownHymn]

This is really helpful, thank you!

[@accentontheoff]

Hi Jesco. It’s a bit of a chicken egg thing but would it make sense to first get a decent speaker and then test the room, and then do the acoustic treatment. The other way around, i.e. test the room first and then get a speaker doesn’t seem to make sense to my mind. If my argument is correct could you (or someone knowledgeable on here) recommend a safe bet for a low budget speaker for a 10 by 12 room. Thanks in advance!

[@michaelcurtis7376]

Wonderful stuff, Jesco. As always. Could you do a video specifically in regards to sub placement? The Bass Hunter technique helps me find the listening spot, and my "mains" form stereo image, but should stereo subs by default sit on the floor next to the mains?

[@gutshisalamanca1191]

Bump! That would be great 🤓

[@alexz1232]

The best config for dual subs is typically the mid-point of the side walls, at least in a rectangular room. That provides the greatest reduction in room modes. Of course, measurements are your best friend, in some rooms you may want to try opposing corners, near-field, or even placing one of the subs near the ceiling.

[@TheMeJustMe75]

I am new to home recording. I am recording electric guitar with modeling software. I do want to mix in midi drums and strings in some of my songs. My room is small and just not sure what size studio monitors I need. The modeling software is also standalone so I am using my computer as an amp. I want to get monitors that are suitable and not over the top.

[@UmaRecordings]

Thank u for all the good info on this subject. 💪🏽💪🏽

[@MiDnYTe25]

Thank you! I never understood the logic behind the get smaller speakers for smaller rooms sentiment. Volume control exists for a reason lol

[@mpelevic]

Albert Kelemen not so simple.

[@MiDnYTe25]

@@mpelevic Eqs exist as well. Beyond that the rest seems voodoo mumbo jumbo, but I'm interested in your take on it.

[@mpelevic]

Albert Kelemen I wrote a general comment, so I wouldn’t like to repeat my self. I’m going to paste it here, after that we can chat when we’re not busy, if you like more details.

[@mpelevic]

Every speaker needs to be driven with the optimal power to show its character and to be fairly linear. You just cannot under-power huge speaker and expect great sound. So, it is important to optimize those speakers with max volume that they are going to be listened to, and that has to do with the room size as well.

[@MiDnYTe25]

@@mpelevic Ok, that's actually a really fair point!

[@danc2700]

Very thorough video, as per usual. Thank you for dispelling this myth!

[@sinclairmarcus]

Great advice

[@thomaslutro5560]

Just a thought from an amateur. I'm not very fond of the "headroom" term, and the associations it gives me. I associate this with for example my own height versus ceiling height, or the height of door openings. In cases where my head does not touch anything there's only varying amounts of free and unused space above my head. At least in strict practical terms this has no effect. As long as there actually is headroom my head will never touch anything, leaving only subjective cues via the eyes to make subjective perceptions of space. Audio on the other hand is blind to any distance between requirements and capacity. Audio does not have any awarenes of nearing the limits of the reproducing gear. There either is compression or not. In most cases there is, gradually increasing with amplitude from very low levels and somewhere towards maximum levels it starts increasing much faster. So, my experience is that bigger loudspeakers sound better, as long as the size is used for better dynamic capacity. The only real problem is where driver spacing and crossover frequencies cause problems without sufficient listening distance.. Deeper bass response is not always a good thing, though. The worst sounding equipment usually is small speakers pushed too hard for low frequency extension, adding unacceptable distortion levels to all the room issues.

[@mattbuenger4985]

Great vid man. I think you mentioned on a podcast you were going to make a vid on how you build your panels. Is that still in the works??

[@greentie792]

Is this before or after room treatment with the insulation panels?

[@joetaylor7877]

i have a small room. 10 ft by 20 ft. 3 of the walls have sound proof blankets on them floor to ceiling. there are sound baffles hanging from the ceiling the entire length, and hanging on the long wall which is un-blanketed. There is very little reflection in the room. Ceiling is 7 ft 4 inches or so. My 24 channel soundboard is placed with the non-blanketed long wall behind it, and it right up against a blanketed long wall. I have 8 inch monitors. Any idea where the bass sweet spot is? Considering adding a sub. My 8 inch speakers are passive with -3 dB at 65 Hz. thanks

[@maaaquemeseyo]

Great info! Thx buddie

[@mohitk_]

Master class 🙌🙌🙌🙌

[@unaijesusbolivaruriarte4047]

How about a small speaker set with an accompanying woofer to handle the low-end peaks?

[@Hamachingo]

you typically get phase issues at the crossover frequency and decent subwoofers are crazy expensive and they're still slow to respond. And now you need a proper amplifier and crossover so everything is somewhat in phase. Then there is subwoofer placement. The good spots for listening sweet spot is also typically the spot where bass builds up in the corner.

[@seankennedy8506]

I'm torn between getting focal alpha 50's or yamaha hs7's with sonarworks reference 4 or ik multimedia iLoud MTM what should I choose?

[@whytewavestudios3039]

I have the alpha 65. They are great

[@TylerWaveStudio]

In a 9ft x 9ft. Should I go for A77x or KH120 or trio6? Going to buy it this week

[@simarjitsingh9975]

My bed room size is 12ft/13ft with ceiling height of 12ft and listening distance of approx. 11ft. Can I have a Pair of tower speakers (SVS Prime Tower) or I should restrict to Pair of Bookshelf? Please advise. Regards

[@균두안]

I make beats in a 2.2m x 2.4m and 2m height booth. All walls are made of absorbing fabrics. What size speaker should I use?

[@Yhoda.PsyTrakked]

its not just volume its also frequency range. A 20hz wave is 17 metres long and a 40 hz wave is 10 metres long so room. treatment is a must. I personally would look at wattage and frequency range over size, you want the best coverage for any size and you dont want big speakers going too low cos your just going to create a lot of mess. Can big speakers work in a small space yes!! but without treatment or proper speaker positioning NO not a chance

[@josuastangl7140]

You say "go as big as your room physically allows to still be able to set them up correctly". Let's make a specific example: For the same price I could get Kali IN-8 (8") monitors or a used pair of Neumann KH120As or Genelec 8030s (5,25", 5"). Do you then disregard every other spec and simply go for the Kalis, because they have deeper low end extension? Or is it worth it to not hear let's say an additional 10Hz below 50Hz, but instead have a clearer and more detailed midrange and high end (and check the low end on headphones)?

[@Vambibuda]

Good stuff.

[@KeiNaarr]

Hey, thanks for all the work. I'm hesitating between several new speakers - currently using Adam A7vs, they're great but I want / need to upgrade . My room is kind of small.So I have to take speaker placement into consideration, obviously. My question is: how would I know what is the minimal / optimal distance between the two speakers? I live in a rural area and can only order online and cannot afford to do listening sessions and compare. How can I know if I can fit this or that speaker size before buying? Is there a way?

[@Samermathkour]

Why don't you like the A7V's? I was just about to purchase these.

[@KeiNaarr]

​@@Samermathkour They're amazing. Go and buy it. Lots of deep end for a 7" and amazing detail. I just need more speakers. Ideally a higher SPL since I'm now in a home and I can crank up the volume as much as I want. .

[@mohamedahmed1023]

My question is how does this apply if you're using a subwoofer or two? If the sub is taking care of much of your low-end (below say 80Hz), can you not just get smaller monitors? What about dual subs as well? I found when I got two subs, it cleaned up the low end at several listening positions. When you have a multi-sub set up, you often have more than one low-end "sweet spot", no? That's the main reason enthusiasts recommend more than 1 sub.

[@jonathanmorgan23]

Hi. I love your videos, watched them all. What do you think about the barefoot footprints 01 for a 9 m2 room?

[@user-rc4xg5de7l]

What room size do you mean by saying that a room would be too small for a 2.5 way speaker?

[@Mtaalas]

This really is voodoo until you've gone through your engineering classes and learn about waves, wave equations and about impedance and realize that acoustical waves act like other waves for example electromagnetic waves. And acoustics uses a lot of same equations. When you realize this, the "near field" and "far field" make absolute sense as a concept and why you want to choose your speaker size according to your listening distance... not by your room size as such. I'm a bit bummed that you didn't even touch the concept of impedance matching and near/far field. :) But we audio engineers need to keep some secrets or we're going to be out of work soon enough :D

[@Oneness100]

I talked to one acoustic engineer and he told me that in order to do near field monitoring where you don't have any reflections from side walls, you STILL need a fair amount of distance from the side walls and rear walls, and ceiling to not need room treatment.

[@musemose2861]

So the secrets have been spilled out 😆

[@Mtaalas]

@@musemose2861 Only if one's ready to spend years in the polytechnic/university to learn this stuff :)

[@Oneness100]

Yes, you still have to pick speaker size to room size.. The room's volume will dictate how much/type of energy you can put inside. Ever been in a room where you turn the volume up to a certain level and it sounds great, but if you turn up the volume higher, it starts to sound horrible and more distorted even before your gear is distorting? "Keep your secrets"??? Huh? Sounds like a paranoid bunch of chaps. Impedance matching near and far field? To each other? Why? It has more about what electronics are driving the speakers so the amps can handle driving speakers that are 4ohm or 8 ohm, which most good amps will do.

[@Harald_Reindl]

Well, the room size restricts your listening distance no speaker should be closer than one meter to a wall when you have only 4 meters and you should sit at least one meter away from every wall you have two meters for a listening position to chose in reality you haven't because you should avoid the exact middle between two walls because of standing waves and now try to place a ordinary large speaker within 4 meters between two walls and find your listening position it simply don't exist because you are way too near at all

[@kapitbanda]

best analysis

[@enjoyer4128]

Idk is my setup is correct, i have a couple 6.5 studio moitors and a center channel of the same size, and 2 15" peavey black widows

[@deepakmohan461]

Hi sir my room size includes living hall (11'0"x17'6"=193'6") and dinning hall (6'0"x11'6") together = Total area(263'2"). I interested in buying JBL Bar 5.1, Truly Wireless Home Theatre(510w). I'm very impressed with the sound quality, will it suits my room size. Please reply?

[@TheHeraldOfChange]

Interesting Video. I've just come across your channel and find it very informative. May I ask? Could you do something "sane" about DML Flat Panel Speakers? Also if, in your opinion, they are suitable, in smaller sizes, as Studio Monitors? In particular for voice over editing.

[@shinodazopar222]

My room is 10x10 feet.should i get 5 inch speakers or 7 or 8's? Plis help

[@chrisrussoroos305]

great help thanks.

[@Themadscientist6858]

I love how he says you can put any size speaker in any room but then he says but if your distance is not the correct one then your room will tell you the size of the speaker🤦‍♂️. This sounds to me like a contradiction. Why do people complicate things that dont need to be complicated. If you want more headroom get more amplifier power. The size of your room will determine what speaker size and power requirements you can use period. If i can put any size speaker or amp in my living room then let me go buy one of this huge IMAX car size speaker with 24,000 rms watts and put it in my living room and call it a day. PEOPLE THE BIGGER THE ROOM GETS THE BIGGER THE SPEAKER AND AMPLIFIERS NEEDS TO BE TO COVER THE FIELD. Its just that simple. If you put too big of a speaker or bass drivers in a very small room your creating sound pressure levels that room its not design for. This is a good mix for accoustic problems withing that room and its bounderies. Soundwaves create pressure and this waves need to travel without constrictions , the bigger the room the bigger this wave needs to be the smaller the room well you get the point . I love how he says you can put huge speakers with huge amplifications as long as you don't turn it up too loud🤣🤣🤣🤣. Listen just fallow this easy test , if you find yourself having to always play any material in your hometheater or music room at max levels thats when you need to up grade to bigger amps and bigger speakers but if you allredy spend a fortune in your home stereo or theater equipment and you can play "EXTREAMLY LOUD" that you find yourself turning the volume down with no need to go into reference volumes then why in Gods name your going to get rid of everything and get humongous 18 inch subs and huge speakers and more amplification only to keep the volume lower🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 . Its something that most youtubers are doing and make s no sence unless you got easy cash to blow, cause this upgrades cost thousands of dollars and in reality you need to ask yourself do i really need it or is it unnecessary. Well you will know when the need for more power is required or when you have enough. I hope this helps alot of yous outhere and ends this mythbuster. Once and for all. I have been installing profecional Hometheater and car audio for 30 years now. PS: USE YOUR MONEY WISELY.

[@ionion3089]

Thank You for the valuable information's.

[@dragonstone6594]

Thanks for the great advice and the guide! Question: If you were to design a perfect room for listening/mixing audio, (music and movies), what size room it would be?

[@Hamachingo]

play around with the amroc calculator. Play around with the dimensions until the Red Cross is smack bank in the center of the "bolt-area" graph. I would start out with a sensible room heigh and then play around with width and length. If you have an existing room, punch in the heigh and width of the room and play around with the length until the bolt-area looks good.

[@TounixX]

Hello, I will soon move into an apartment and install a small home studio in a room measuring 5.3 m x 2.7 m (14.3 m2). I will put my office on the width. the room will have a desk on the opposite side for my girlfriend and a TV with sofa in the center. I will treat my side acoustically. My question is: are the Adam a7x models "too powerful" for the size of my room or should I get the a5x? I'm doing beatmaking. I thank you in advance.

[@audiunt]

What about small (5") speakers in combination with a sub? I have Yamaha HS50M's which go as low as 80Hz. I need the HS10W to get down to 40Hz. The fiddling with the crossover and speaker settings is tedious. Full range speakers seem to be much easier. But is a sub in a (3x4x2.5m) small room a problem?

[@Harald_Reindl]

no it is not when placed right - it solves a ton of problems when there is only one source below 60 Hz in a small room

[@MrJohnny333]

My room is very small 8 square meters but i want a 5.1 with Polk loudspeaker 4×ES 10, ES 35 and HTS 10 is that possible in my room?

[@redking8585]

I knew a guy that had concert speakers in his bedroom with massive 40 inch drivers and yeah no problems with it it was a blast 🤣, his neighbours weren't very happy though.

[@accentontheoff]

Hi Jesco, what is the optimal distance for a listener, for a 6.5 inch speaker like the Focal 65. Their manual just gives a range. Also, does it qualify as nearfield. Anyone care to advice?

[@MannyXO]

I had Trio 11s and all I could hear was woof! Hated it! I have acoustic treatment and all but the low end was all over the place. Changed for the Trio 6s and I’m way happier. A very fine balance between low mids and highs. This is coming from experience so I dunno!

[@stoinge]

Turn the bass down a bit an dont have em blaring. I love sitting nxt to Triangle Borea BR09 Floorstanding Speakers in my small room (my only room) an going through the weekly searches with fantastic quality sound. Jus get the volume an bass right with some green an a cuppa tea rrrr , buzzing like a kid at the age of 50, love these speakers

[@stevesheroan4131]

I agree with this philosophy, but the problem with the race car analogy is that you haven’t taken the track (mixing room) size into account. On a really small track it may be better to limit the car to 60mph.

[@rodoljubraickovic3183]

Hey Jesco thank you for all the great information. Is it true that larger speakers are less precise at lower volumes? My listening levels are around 60dB (rarely louder than a conversation level) so I wonder does this rule of more headroom applies to this situation.

[@unclemick-synths]

I've not heard that one before. I doubt it's a problem.

[@johndaddabbo9383]

No, it isn't at all speaker size dependent. Speakers of all sizes tend to suck at low level listening, as well you can find speakers of all sizes that are good at it... mind you far fewer will actually be good at low level listening. One suggestion if I may, try to be set up in the largest room with the overall speaker placement being as far from your seated position as possible (and still achieving great imaging and all), thereby having you turn up the volume higher in order to reach your 60 dB at your listening position..., which then will open up your speaker options a bit.

[@RADERFPV]

I use some presonus eris e5 xt's in a large room, and my lack of experience has me wondering if I should have got the 8's instead. They sound great, but not having any past studio monitor experience, it's hard for me to tell what I'm really missing out on. I know there will be more bass and volume, it's just hard to picture how much. I guess some experimentation (and more spent $) is the only way to really find out.

[@RADERFPV]

@fartpoobox ohyeah - Yeah, I do regret not getting the 8's. Especially now that I'm playing and mixing more drums, makes having 5's even worse. They handle it "okay", but I'm sure I'm missing out, just like you mentioned. Thankfully they're not priced that bad, so maybe someday soon I'll sell these off and will make the upgrade. I still have the original boxes, so I could probably recoup a lot of the $. Thanks for your inputs, really appreciate it.

[@jorgeguitar2540]

@@RADERFPV did you get the 8s?

[@ivansoto9723]

@@RADERFPV I got the 8XT monitors like 2 months ago. Tbh the bass is a little too much for me without treatment. Should've bought treatment instead first. My rooms about 12x10 ft. I'm having issues like simple lack of clarity, which is likely an acoustic problem. I'm thinking about selling them and my old monitors, buying a 6" or 7" and a ton of bass traps and some diffusors.

[@ivansoto9723]

@@jorgeguitar2540 I got them. Should've bought treatment first. The bass is much deeper than what I'm used to but my acoustics are screwing up the clarity, even worse when sub frequencies are added.

[@RADERFPV]

@@ivansoto9723 Thanks for this info, really appreciate it. I'm still using the e5 xt's, been too happy with them to worry about replacing them. Based on what you're saying, I'd likely have problems too. Thanks for letting me know.