Special Guest Geoff Keighley has his doubts about E3 2023 | Friends Per Second Ep 5

[@SkillUp]

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[@arianzd2933]

jake told us in his Q and & we got a Special Guest but nobody imagined you guys bring Geoff Keighley . love the podcast

[@600gx4]

In the destiny segment you answered no to jerard’s question about if the harassment was caused by anything, I personally found that wack cuz as a destiny player there was a list of shit in the past few months that could’ve contributed to players harass the devs. The main one that comes to mind is when they said titans won’t get twilight garrison back, which I know caused death threats to be sent out. The raid being swapped to a Friday could have caused some stuff but I’m not sure on that one.

[@baddreams3850]

I hope Jake is ok he looks like he's in physical pain! Feel better bro! I know this sounds like a troll but I legit hope he's ok!

[@hmftw]

Pp

[@hmftw]

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[@prnomadplays]

Geoff Keighley is that guy they ask for in job applications with like 10yrs of experience fresh out of college 😂

[@DUBDUB511]

Or 10 years experience in a field that only existed for a couple years

[@AllegedAllergen]

Damn, moving up in the world! To think of the simple beginnings he started out as, all those years working the grind in front of the camera and mic. But this is a new level for Geoff. Getting to interview THE SkillUp! Keep at it Geoff, the sky's the limit.

[@dynamite4life]

@horriblepancake Issa joke

[@Daniel-om4ce]

@horriblepancake Itsa joke

[@conaldeugenepeterson2147]

@horriblepancake it. Joke.

[@pinkdrink6535]

@horriblepancake joke.

[@waves9515]

@horriblepancake it jk

[@darkstriker00]

I like how humble Geoff is when describing his time in the gaming industry with some aspects of it just being Lucky in the right place in the right time. I do appreciate what he does for the gaming industry.

[@operative2136]

I feel like sometimes people give him a hard time, but frankly at least he's trying to do something positive. He's also got a permanent degree of respect from me for defending Mass Effect from Fox News.

[@garrettviewegh677]

Having started the Game Awards years ago, I’m glad someone in the industry decided to give video games the recognition they deserve, as video games are an art form just as painting, sculpting filming, or photography. On top of that, E3 having been in limbo since Covid hit in 2020, he set the groundwork for the trend many other gaming companies have followed. With online only events like Gamscom, and the Summer games event 2022. Companies like Sony, Microsoft, Devolver, THQ Nordic, and Bethesda followed suit. It’s a great substitute when/if E3 returns.

[@1_random_commenter]

Missing timestamp at 4:00, "Lucy doesn't have a Steam Deck"

[@Artimecion1]

I know that I'm more of a fan than others, but I can't believe nobody here brought up FFXIV to Ralphs question. Direct and constant communication with the community from Yoshi-P as DRAMATICALLY improved FFXIV and the community perception. They did their 72nd or 73rd just this week since a Realm Reborn launch. It is amazing and many more Devs could learn from this.

[@eStecko]

Quite a few studios do this well too. GGG behind Path of Exile do a lot of interviews, development manifestos and their dev streams ahead of every new content patch. Digital Extremes also do a lot of dev streams and community stuff, but I'd say their streams kinda fell off in bringing up the issues with the game and showing off their designs they are working on (most likely because they used to show or talk about things that would make it into the game 2-3 years later, so, very early prototypes). I heard Lost Ark dev streams are also a work of passion, but I haven't seen them, though, people compare them to FFXIV streams. With all that said, still, I think that YoshiP is the best at open communication with his community and Chris Wilson (GGG) being a close second.

[@DUBDUB511]

Read this as "more of a man than others" and was confusion

[@boozebeard9501]

Being a live service games is pretty obviously the distinguishing factor that strangely wasn't addressed in the conversation... they actually came so close when Lucy brought up how she views something like overwatch differently to the LOTR films... it's cause it's a live service evolving product that people are still interacting with on a daily basis...

[@1AmTheStig]

The story of Old School Runescape is also very interesting. It started as a couple of servers rolled back to 2007 as an 'experiment' and is now just as big if not bigger than the main game.

[@takoshihitsamaru4675]

This interview has given me a newfound respect for Geoff. I guess I never really thought about where he came from and how he got here, he always 'seemed' genuine and like a true fan of gaming, but to know now that he absolutely earned that and has been in the industry for that long...It's impressive and gives me a better understanding of why he is who he is to gaming and gamers. Also, his little "Lucy, what the fuck, come to Germany" was hilarious.

[@LiamCowling]

Yeah it's great to see that humble side and hear how hard he's worked

[@Talsbynians]

FFXIV’s community engagement did a huge thing for the game getting back on its feet

Two podcasters walk into a bicycle store. "I'd like a what-a-bottle please". "Sure, cash or NFT?"

[@entysing6780]

"Geoff, how many years of game experience do you have?" "Yes."

[@NWNB90]

As a Community Manager in games, this episode was extra special. It's great to hear what people within the industry that I adore and respect think about us and the work that we do. Also, SkillUp is 100% correct. You will struggle to find anyone more passionate about our game than us.

[@xNemesis_]

Intresting interview with Geoff Keighley, regarding his show i like the way that he is trying to take risk and push things further to make the show more interesting and "less generic" instead of those E3 moment with some cringe moments, looking at you Bethesda. Tho i also think that having those celebs is not necessarily a good thing imo, like don't get me wrong there is no need to gatekeep + you have some celebs that really like games but most of them will fake it and be like the "Hello, fellow kids" meme. Also ofc the E3 and his show are big ads for games ofc but his summer fest when we had ads for Black Adam, etc.. Didn't like it a bit and it took time for the show but i get it they have sponsors so i guess deal with it. Finally, and i think he knows that but there will be a decrease in terms of number of people watching the shows, E3 and his show and the Emmy awards and Oscar decline shown that. So i think people will be tired to see those show or will just wait the trailers to drop on YT

[@EntityXe]

I can see this for summer game fest but the game awards set new viewership records last year. I think Geoff looks at TGA as his bigger project every year and I think TGA will continue to grow.

[@azeria1]

They spent like 10 minutes on the last of us that's as generic you can get

[@xNemesis_]

@@EntityXe yes, when you look deeply TGA have little to no competition so i don't think it will decrease soon but yeah my perspective was more focused on similar show in other industries where people starts to have a fatigue of those shows (imo, i maybe be wrong). So yeah i doubt TGA will be impacted, at least not now. Tho like you said for the summer game fest, if E3 doesn't do something weird, Geoff's show will be heavily impacted imo

[@xNemesis_]

@@azeria1 yes like i said that summer game fest was mid, between those ads about Black Adam and other and 10 minutes of Last of Us "remake", you nearly lost between 20 to 30 minutes max of show that could have been put into something else, well Last of Us still need to present their game but it could have been less tbh

[@EntityXe]

@@xNemesis_ I agree but I still think SGF is still in it's early stages and geoff holds more weight with developers than what e3 can get so I think it's really just a matter of what games are coming out that year and what announcements each party can get. I don't think Geoff is really worried about e3 cancelling out SGF unless e3 magically replicates the golden years of what it used to be.

[@samgutierrez1070]

Looking forward to success of this project 😀

[@rnbicalho]

"I understood that reference" - Captain America

[@GuiiBrazil]

Damn... didn't knew about Geoff Keighley start... made me respect him even more now. Dude knows what's up!

[@nrishiee5231]

This podcast is quickly becoming one of my favorites. Here's hoping to a long runtime!

[@FryCanon]

Loved hearing about Geoff. Had no idea that's where he came. I already had respect for him but even more now

[@GigaEnigma]

RLM releases a let's play of Super VHS and a FPS podcast episode in the same morning. It's a magical day!

[@beneky]

I thought I was the only one

[@conaldeugenepeterson2147]

And a new ep of play watch listen

[@tap10lan]

Community interaction improving video game: -96, when Firaxis were creating Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri, they had a BBS, where quite a few fans were VERY active. I remember one example where the community asked if it would be possible to get hot-seat functionality, and thus be able to "couch-PVP" using one computer. The Firaxis community manager said they didn't have that sort of thing planned, but would bring it up in meeting. Next day (or maybe after two days), we were told that they would try to add that. They also said that might be a way to implement play-by-email. And they DID put in those functions!

[@robbieh9873]

Honestly didn't know what to expect from Geoff, but damn, he seems like a super interesting dude. Y'all did great with the interview. On another note, Terraria is probably the game that exemplifies what a game that's been improved by its community looks like. Wouldn't be half the game it is without its community

[@bugweasel]

Holy crap how did you get Geoff?? a podcast only 5 episodes in! Mad flex! Ngl, I'm impressed! o_O

[@tanookimarketing]

Because Geoff whores himself out to literally anyone and everyone who will listen. No judgement, I respect the hustle. But yeah, Geoff loves Geoff.

[@SmootherThanSilk]

It has less to do with age of the podcast, and more to do with the members in it. These 4 are well known figures in the games industry.

[@StarmenRock]

@@SmootherThanSilk gaming journalism industry*

[@angelcalderon5680]

it's not that crazy lol. this podcasts crew consists of 2 of the most popular game reviewers on KZbin, a long time game journalist who probably has a lot of industry connections, and the completionist (who probably has industry connections himself given how close he is to the indie scene)

[@spliterator1981]

being introduced as "one of the infinity stones of gaming" had Geoff wondering how they got Geoff lolol. Fantastic interview.

[@massivive]

that soul reaver mention near the end, Ralph played that one completely straight-faced, did make me laugh

[@CynicallyGrey]

Off and oops

[@Pathogen406]

I love this podcast. Great interview, great friends, great product. Keep it up everyone.

[@CataclysmDM]

If Fromsoft is an example of game studios doing their own thing and ignoring social media, then I want to see more of that.

[@carlcarmen1990]

Every time I see the a FPS episode pop up I verbally go "hell yeah"

[@martinwoodrome6588]

So far 5 hell yeahs

[@skulltula1352]

I do the mario letsa go voice haha.

[@strictlybananas]

I have an irrational fear that one night I’m going to sneeze in bed and then hear “bless you” from a voice I didn’t know what there, like under my bed or from my closet lmao

[@TheTakenKing999]

I hope this podcast never ends, such a fun time watching it, the duration and the upload schedule is perfect imo

[@Retinax]

If you liked Cult of the Lamb, you should look into Moonlighter! You dungeon delve to collect artifacts during the night, then run your store setting prices and selling the loot you collected during the day.

[@arthurdent9281]

I already play that, but it's called Path of Exile.

[@kevinleach2584]

You guys are just the best! Love how in depth you get, and the interview this week was top notch!! Thank you very much for the entertainment and your commraderie!

[@johnswanson1977]

After the lackluster summer games fest this year one thing I learned is E3 isn’t dead yet.

[@citizen3000]

I actively miss E3. Yahtzee Crowshaw had a good video on the subject. Showing a few videos in a stream is in no way a superior replacement to E3, something that brings together tens of thousands of people.

[@franjaff6919]

And the Summer Games Fest from last year. And the last few Gamescom Opening Night Live shows.

[@gravendanger]

Of course he said this, E3 is his competition now

[@justinthompson320]

The same trailers would be shown, E3 or not

[@glowerworm]

@@citizen3000 can't really bring together thousands of people with the pandemic going, at least not in real life. The future will be interesting, with E3 -type shows moving to VR attendance

[@ineedscissors6176]

I want more E3 so we can hopefully get Crowbcat making more videos highlighting the absolute cringe that goes down.

[@spliterator1981]

It's been jeez, a decade plus since I've been so invested in a video game podcast. Fantastic showing again guys, can't wait for the next one!

[@clfenich]

One of the best pod casts, love the Completionist and Jake Baldino and Skill Up has awesome reviews!

[@seedofpower]

The command and conquer remaster and AoE2 DE are two games I can think of where the devs and community came together to create something really awesome.

[@krityaan]

AoE2 DE is unique where community members became the devs xD

[@LiraeNoir]

To answer the question about dev-customers communication, two examples were it significantly improved the product and sales: - Factorio. Wube is a model of communication, and what they build with their community is absolutely a key seller. - Subnautica. Even more direct, if you watch the Subnautica post-mortem the devs say it almost verbatim: communication with their customers not only saved the game, but changed it deeply for the better. The game made with the audience is far better than what the devs were attempting to make on their own (according to them, go watch the post-mortem it's a very good one).

[@tylercrispy]

Incredible to have this guest on EP 4! Super glad you guys started this I needed this in my weekly routine

[@sefii05]

Ep 5

[@tylercrispy]

@@sefii05 I have no excuse for this mistake

[@missmeeper]

There is nothing more valuable then someone who disagrees with you. It helps you hear outside ideas that maybe you didn't think about and it helps you build on your beliefs.

[@elibdev]

Fantastic episode (loved the Mythic Quest drop)! Awesome that you got Infinity Geoff on the show, and Jake.. tie your shoes and go to bed

[@rennelope]

When Ralph is talking about Cult of the Lamb and his voice dips into Reviewer Voice for a moment. 😏

[@Amocoru]

I did a similar thing to Geoff when I was about 15. I wrote a review for one of the original God of War games on the old gamespot where you could do that and got emailed and asked to write for a magazine. The payment was getting to keep the games for free which was amazing for a poor kid that lived in the middle of nowhere. I think I did like five of them before the website basically just died. I can't even remember the name of it. I got five free games though! Edit: Also, yes. No one actually cares about the awards because it's just people in the industry circle jerking for each other just like the Oscars. We're there for the trailers.

[@OniFeez]

I think Warframe's community has greatly helped with the development of the game too. TennoGen, the player councils etc.

[@roberthesser6402]

Yea honestly reading the comments on this video of people giving some pretty major and well known examples of community interaction helping a game's development, and I'm kind of left slightly baffled that the conversation in the podcast drifted towards "well, do we really NEED community development from the studio?" For a community driven game like WOW, FFIVX, Warframe, and indeed, Destiny 2, yes, absolutely. The communities of those games wouldn't be as special as they are, and the games not as long lived as they have been, had it not been for the developers taking the time to really show they care--and that is especially vital in situations where the game isn't living up to its potential, something Destiny 2 fans have been feeling in some manner since basically forever even at the best of times. Another great example is the Master Chief Collection, which bounced back after community demand, and saw a very healthy relationship between community and studio, conversing over the goals of the project. When good will has been lost due to poor decisions or performance, community interaction is necessary to rekindle trust, as trust always begins with a conversation. Coming from a huge MMO/looter guy, hearing Ralph question that vital relationship was even more bizarre.

[@dx3910]

Are you kidding? Warframe sold out to a Chinese shell company and started one of the most aggressive monetizing schemes in the business. I was a day-1 beta player and watched them systematically destroy what was originally supposed to be a North American sci-fi RPG. They take no community feedback whatsoever and go out of their way to ensure features are disconnected, bug ridden, and monetized. Terrible example..?

[@OniFeez]

@@dx3910 No... It may be owned by Tencent (what does the fact it is Chinese owned matter at all?) but they still have TennoGen and the player councils. It has the fairest monetization system with the Primes as well since you know exactly what you're buying.

[@dx3910]

@@OniFeez Again, I was a day one beta guy and have a disgusting, hideous amount of play time -- "No" isn't an argument. TennoGen and player councils count for nothing. $10 for a skin is not fair by any standard, nor is ~$10-$15 per character in plat. Putting everything behind a casino-style grind is insulting -- "optional" doesn't apply here. They can't even be bothered to explain most game features -- a FREE WIKI has been filling the gap, as DE refuses to explain their own game in-game, LOL. No two features fit together, so you can be excited about Octavia's midi stuff or get your hoverboard and then... find out you wasted your time because every feature is basically useless outside of the content included in its release window. I was referring the chicken company, not Tencent. Went downhill from there. Asian themes turned it into a stupid anime-like game, instead of the path it was on as a unique sci-fi world. If you like anime, I can't help you, you're already gone. Did you know there was a skill tree at the beginning? Didn't think so :). Only arguing because this is the greatest disappointment in my game library. There are bugs that still exist going on 4 years. They are "agile" to the point of insanity and rarely flesh out any feature, ever. Don't bother carrying the argument -- you're just wrong, and I'm still bitter about wasting anything to support DE in the early days. Apparently they blew player cash on cocaine or something and needed daddy Tencent's help?? Insulting all around.

[@OniFeez]

@@dx3910 what MMO esque game doesn't have grinding in some form? You may not agree with TennoGen or player councils but that doesn't mean that they aren't stron player focused community's led by the developers, so yes... ironically 'no' is an argument. Besides which, at least the grinding to which you refer has a) published list of the likelihood of you receiving the objects and b) purchased warframes done with real money is done with full transparency without grinding mechanics. As long as it's in rotation you know exactly what prime you want and how much it costs. No pulling the lever involved.

[@Mediados]

A great quote "Child labor? I love it!"

[@Podcir]

I usually listen on Spotify but came here to tell You "thank You" for doing this postcast :) Thanks to all 4 of You, it really became my favorite gaming podcast out there since the very first episode. I've been enjoying content from You, Jake and Jirard for quite some time now (like a couple of years for some of You), I also really like Lucy, wish she did more stuff individually, like each one of You does but I enjoy her a lot wherever she appears😅 I really hope You're satisfied with reception and numbers Your podcast does because I, as a listener, absolutely love it😊

[@ADHDad]

Since FPS has started I've been listening to it while I do housework and do some Platting on old games. It's just been a joy. Until this podcast started I had only ever done Spyro as my platinum, but I've done Stray, God of War, Miles Morales and almost done GhostOT.

[@SBx11]

Love the reaction to sleeping dogs what an underrated gem

[@Semtx552]

@2:29:20 - joke completed two podcasters walk into a bicycle store looking to interview a spokesperson i'll see myself out.

[@AHH96]

How do you just walk up to Fromsoft HQ and not hear the boss music start, then get stomped by an eldritch horror of a security guard?

[@stoidatdaeva3197]

under rated comment 🤣

[@mwdavis77]

Geoff seems like a legitimately awesome dude.

[@ouchmoma]

Lucy , I sold my original switch before getting an oled switch. So I also had trouble getting my animal crossing save back, however! At first the Nintendo support guy told me it was impossible to get my saves back but after I formaly requested a complaint they responded alowing me to download the saves. You can tell your friend to do that 😊

[@Genome320]

It's actually insane that you have to do that just to be able to download old save files. wtf

[@emile5921]

Geoff talks about E3 being silly in relation to unannounced plans (which I assume are confidential) yet he just had the Rock waste a lot of time and promote half naked an energy drink and a super hero movie. Geoff has personal beef and it is so obvious. Yet not a single show he has made with SFG is even remotely close to anything E3 has done, even during its bad years.

[@citizen3000]

Getting the rock on to shill his products was embarrassing.

[@jst5280]

When talking about Destiny 2 and Bungie having a lot of community interaction, I think it's important to remember that community is part of what put them on the map. Obviously, yes, Halo was a massive success for them... but as a studio they have gone out of their way to engage with players in a lot of ways. Whether through social media, blog posts, community events, and more; Bungie has always had a strong tie to their community. It's helped them build good will and to put out the best they can for the players. It's also, in my opinion, what saved the first Destiny. That game absolutely fell apart on release, and were it not for the fact that they had such good will from their Halo days, and a community manager hearing feedback and talking with players and making them feel heard... D1 would have ended up just like Anthem. This is especially true because it was published by ActivisionBlizzard, and we know enough to not have to go further into that point xD D2 as a live service also thrives on its community and on knowing what players want, and having community interaction helps reassure players a lot when stuff is going poorly. Being well received and stemming the tide of backlash while you fix things, or play damage control if you make horrible decisions, has saved Destiny and Destiny 2 an unbelievable amount of times.

[@xNemesis_]

It saved them from drowning for sure, gotta give them that. Not sure it will works in the future with Sony now but we'll see

[@terribletimes902]

Bruh stop excusing harassment it’s not hard smh

[@Hacknerds]

@@terribletimes902 No one here is doing that.

[@bee-beargaming]

I been a fan of the completionist & gameranx so seeing 1 of my favorite hosts on a podcast is awesome. I enjoyed the interview especially even though they weren't there

[@ryanfarrell8135]

So good...Im at work...cant wait to zone out, work, and listen. Edit: I just got chill when Lucy said that about the internet because I literally say that all the timr, but in a more pessamistic way. I always say that I dont think we will survive "the information age" because we, as a species, seem unable to parse information.

[@liljoe62799]

To me, it's not even that we're unable to parse information. I think that given enough time and proper education, we could become pretty adept at processing info. The real problem lies in the fact that so many of the largest sources of our information are less driven by actually informing the people and more on making a profit. Be that by sensationalizing stories or embellishing them to make them more enticing. We are so inundated with false or overly-biased info that whatever was true to begin with almost gets lost in the sea of misinformation.

[@ryanfarrell8135]

@@liljoe62799 I agree...thats usually part of my reasoning, but I didnt want to get too indepth here, it already felt weird to reinforce that point on a lighthearted games podcast video, but I was so shocked to hear someone pull a view I hold right out of my head that I was compelled to acknowledge it.

[@michaelbeemer8019]

You should be ashamed for suggesting that Retake Mass Effect sending cupcakes to BioWare was ‘threatening’. 1) It was sent to their offices, not anyone’s personal address. (Probably delivered directly by the bakery.) 2) BioWare gave the cupcakes to a local food bank. They wouldn’t have done that if they suspected any food tampering.

[@HalfpennyTerwilliger]

It was also made by the official Bioware community and the event was fully monitored by their community manager from start to finish. In fact some participants were miffed that Bioware gave away the cakes because the community manager was in the sideline from the get go and never gave a heads up they would do that and never intended to distribute the cakes in the studio.

[@philyarn703]

My favorite moment in video game television history is when Jeff got the heads of Nintendo, Microsoft and Sony on stage at one time I'll never forgot suck a monumental moment, it's the stuff documentaries are made of and hey they didn't even punch, kick or stab each other lol so fn epic!!!!

[@emile5921]

I dont get how people are impressed by this moment. It was a PR stunt that led to nothing substantive at all.

[@Obsidian0Sky]

NEVER CHANGE THE CLOSING CATCH PHRASE. IT IS PERFECT. AND I LOVE IT! JuST SO SUCCINCTLY CAPTURE THE ESSENCE OF THE FOUR OF YOU AND HTE PODCAST "GAME FEEL"

[@SeitaOhama]

I'd love to throw an extra shoutout to Players on Paramount+! Lucy and Ralph called it out around 1:34:57 . Its a mockumentary following a professional Esports team playing League of Legends! As an avid LoL Esports watcher, its great to see this get some light! Thanks for the shoutout :D

[@snowboard2013Jan]

Totally love it! Watching from Queensland Australia. All 4 of you are so good at this and super funny and enjoyable. A real treat. Thank you.

[@rubendddd]

Great chapters as usual, "Geoff Keighley interview debrief" is 10% interview and 90% random shows/movies. Love it

[@timeforgamesYT]

Great episode and a really cool interview! BTW: Dan Trachtenberg co-hosted The Totally Rad Show (one of my favorite things to watch on KZbin 10 or so years ago), alongside Jeff Cannata and Alex Albrecht. He's probably one of the few directors who not only gets video games but actually plays them. At some point, he was in the cards to direct the Uncharted movie and I'll never stop thinking about how that would have turned out.

[@sparce23]

Thank you guys! This is a great podcast and I look forward to it every other week... :)

[@eneteachedos]

strong co-optional podcast vibes, very cool stuff

[@benjporter1511]

This is the greatest thing to listen to. Thats it.

[@ernonikkola1084]

You mention Warframe several times, so I'd like to add that Warframe has been positively influenced by the community and just a couple of weeks ago we got to see how being a community manager can lead to more than just stress and headache; Rebb Ford is now the creative director

[@dirtygattor9109]

Warms my heart to see ralph and the gang gain some traction. Feels like watching history unfold.

[@HolyHadou]

Fighting game community chanting for rollback netcode in fighting games finally got rollback to be a standard. I don't think anyone got surly about it to my recollection.

[@fluffythebunnyslayer20]

Mythic Quest was actually very good. I had heard bad things but the reviews were solid and I'm so glad I gave it a shot.

[@user-sq7ry5vx7t]

Most rational fear is losing my job and not being able to support my family

[@benparker8854]

I just want to say, I absolutely love this show and I really appreciate all your hard work! :D

[@plasmaskybeast6425]

My irrational gaming fear is that whenever I go swimming at the beach the shark from banjo-kazooie will appear out of nowhere and rip me to bits

[@Nickulator]

Hey Skillup, a lot of indie titles and early access games actually thrive and succeed because of the communication and community aspect. Games like Deep Rock Galactic, Phasmophobia, Baldur's Gate 3, Dead by Daylight (which was mentioned) and Hades (before it came out) just to name a few. Basically the community all had a hand in shaping these games and they all turned out better because of it.

[@LastActionHero_]

Pepsi has their doubts about Coca Cola. AMD has their doubts about Intel. Sony has their doubts about Xbox. Android has their doubts about iPhone.

[@tanookimarketing]

Geoff Keighley, the guy who ran an alternative-E3 has doubts about E3 2023!? No fricking way.

[@citizen3000]

Hilarious how they’re framing this. “Geoff Keighly says E3 is shit actually and please give him more money”

[@emile5921]

And the interviewers are not challenging him at anything. He talks about his shows as if he has made something groundbreaking. Yet they are discounted E3s. And his "my shows bring the industry together" is such bull. Like E3 or other shows want to devide the industry.

[@Omnicloudx13]

@@emile5921 They don't want to lose access to him so they don't ask him the real hard hitting questions, they just asking appeasing questions in hopes he comes back in a future show. A lot of news hosts follow the same kowtowing mentality as them.

[@citizen3000]

@@emile5921 He’s a very good salesman. I have no problem with Geoff though, he’s fine. What’s more concerning is seeing what seems like a puff piece/advert for Geoffs business interests.

[@emile5921]

@@citizen3000 I dont think he is a good salesman. He is the ONLY salesman in that space and for many publishers the only alternative to established shows.

[@Dwayne971]

FYI : I LOVE Mythic quest and season 2 with the exploration of longbottom history is even better. So good that they renew it for 2 seasons😎

[@FrogMelodies]

On my first month on the job (I'm a microbiologist) I was doing what is called a growth promotion test for some of our nutrient media, but I was using syringes instead of micropipettes at the time cause all of them were broken at the time. So, I was already like 100 syringes in (used 1 syringe for every microorganism dilution) when I, instead of closing the cap over the syringe needle, I missed it and stabbed my finger instead (with a staphylococcus aureus loaded syringe) and started bleeding under my double latex gloves. Thankfully tho it was at the end of the procedure, which means it was a low concentration dilution of the bacteria, and I also went for first aid at once, which is not much in that case, I just rubber banded my finger and left it under running water for 5 minutes and started a course of Vancomycin antibiotic. So, yeah, that still comes to me from time to time 7 years later as I type it here.

[@humanguy31]

On community: There are the obvious business angles for community management. Marketing, engagement with the media, better continued revenue (all things I don’t have any numbers on either, Jake). The other part of community engagement is in support of the things that Bungie does do. That progressive stance and using your platform to speak to your values. By engaging with your community, you’re able to listen to them about what they want and to tell them about what you want as well. The only charity drives I’ve participated in from game devs are from WB with Mordor (which they didn’t handle well) and disaster relief that Bungie did (which they did handle well). I participated in these things because they had communicated their values to me clearly and were following through on them consistently. Because of this, and because gaming can get into an insular mindset that breeds toxic behaviors, it’s important that we stand up for developers like Bungie when they are doing the kinds of things that we like and hold them accountable when they do things we don’t. Part of that is acting with indignation when things like this are happening, and letting people know that we do stand with Bungie employees, and support a safe environment for them to carry on with their work and lives. In this way, it’s important that when a company that has been targeted for carrying out their beliefs in a positive way has to draw back for safety that we continue to act as a community to support the positive values that they have been attacked for.

[@greydout]

Met Geoff at E3 all the way from South Africa when I worked for Xbox. Absolutely awesome guy!

[@tap10lan]

The crazy amount of improvements/mods for XCOM and XCOM 2. The fan team who made The Long War for XCOM were even invited by Firaxis to do DLC for XCOM 2!!!

[@klintbeastwould2370]

"Consuming media, I just do that" felt on the cellular level.

[@deadkodo]

I played XBC3 via dock on my TV and my biggest regret was that this wasn't on a playstation or xbox so in that sense I agree with Jake. I finished it on the weekend and really enjoyed it even if like most games I am not good at it. I do recommend it.

[@quinncamargo]

I was not really into gaming podcast but you guys opened a new media format for me to absorb. Keep it up guys. Nice interview by the way.

[@Mori-101]

Regarding how community influenced a game positively. Prof. Fat Shady is a youtube content creator who put out a ton of useful tips for Trials Fusion. Ubisoft/RedLynx got him on board for Trials Rising making a whole tutorial section (very well made and fleshed out) which in turn made the Trials games much more accessable for newcomers.

[@BrohunGaming]

good example of community engagemtn is recent events (last few months) of lost ark. community kept asking for roadmaps and more communication (and more precise communication) from AGS and after many campaigns from community and content creators we keep getting very good roadmaps and reliable information

[@TheJ23140]

Still have wake up in the middle of the night occasionally thinking i have my drivers licence test or a uni assignment due.

[@crackwh0re911]

Awesome crew of people! Good job with this podcast! Love it! ;)

[@whenisdinner2137]

Jeff Keely has shown us that he cannot compete with e3.

[@EntityXe]

The summer game fest no but his game awards show is right there with e3 in terms of viewership but they are very different shows that you can't really compare them.

[@whenisdinner2137]

@@EntityXe the game awards are in their own lane though

[@ledf2012]

this is the best thing that happened to gaming podcasts 😂

[@drgonzo123]

Lucy, you are not alone. I too, have never finished a Zelda game, and yes I am old and have no excuses. I’ve even tried BotW and bounced off. Take my gamer card, lock me up, I’m a horrible excuse for a human being.

[@alvikay]

I feel this episode really found a jam. Like jazz... not traffic. Love this and the entirety of your faces. I highly recommend this episode, I tried before you listened, so you don't have to... no wait... so now you have to.

[@johnllendo]

I have only watched about 20 minutes in so far because my attention span is shit, but this is the first time in a long time I have really enjoyed a podcast.

[@ichibi87]

I do love this project. Literally just put it on and work. Its amazing and informative/entertaining plus you got dope interviews. Loving it

[@TheBluesCruise]

That was a great interview. I wish you had asked him about when NoClip interviewed him for the half-life 20th anniversary and he had to pretend like he didn't know Alyx existed the whole time.

[@sorenkair]

1:02:27 the way he just ignored ralph lmao 2:29:29 jake never fails to make me laugh

[@ryanfields4990]

I have a new fondest for Jeff after hearing his origins he is through and through from the beginning great job guys 😁

[@deandrewilliams5554]

My favorite show thus far The chemistry this week *chef's kiss*. Keep it up guys and girl. Hope to see many more!

[@kahleeb624]

Completionist's statement about everything having a purpose is exactly why im still playing Monster Hunter World. Everything you do has some purpose and even sometimes a purpose comes after and you realize you can get that next weapon or a new armor set and constantly your building up. Love that feeling in games.

[@kyleb1958]

Best example of a game being improved by communication with the community is Doom: Eternal. Hugo Martin engaged with the community a lot, and that influenced the direction of the Ancient Gods DLC 1 & 2 quite significantly

[@zikarisg9025]

This podcast is getting better, keep up the great work!

[@satoro26]

In general im not a fan of twitch or podcasts but i really like watching/listening to you guys.

[@mistro0014]

I feel the community problem is two things. The anonymity make us feel so removed from ourselves and them that many feel we can do and say what we want. Also because of how our brains are wired, so many of us think we are entitled and deserve something. I have gotten so far to the other side that it now starts to really annoy me seeing and hearing people acting this way. I have recently seen people say stuff like I was speaking to a developer and they gave me one answer about something now they changed it. And now when I ask they aren't even responding anymore. As if they deserve to be responded to because they paid money for a product. The only thing they deserve is a refund if it is warranted. It is nice asking community managers questions and get responses or at least a little update if they can give one. But they do not have to talk to any of us at all, and unfortunately if this continues to spiral out of control it may turn into them not responding anymore. I play warframe and pay money for stuff once and a while. Digital extremes is about to nerf one of my favorite weapons and a great frame I like. I'm smart enough to know it's the right thing to do and it sucks but I'm fine with it. So many aren't. It's so toxic at times right now by some who think that they don't deserve this happening to them and go on rants on reddit or Twitter or worse they harass someone because of this. It gets me riled up to hear people complain constantly about there is nothing to do in a certain game, or they won't fix this gun, or time to kill in pvp isn't right and they need to fix it for me. No they don't it's their game and they can do what they want with it. When it gets like that people should realize that if they are not happy they need to move on do something else or play something else or whatever. These game companies don't owe anyone anything other than a refund if warranted and we are lucky we get more than that and should appreciate it and not ruin it.

[@Newadventuresinpony]

I'm replaying Portal 2 and all I can think about is Ralph's wall is probably a portal friendly surface.