Special Operations Group Selection. (O-Course)

[@jk41shadow]

All I see they got smarter and use mics so they dont lose their voice like the US Marine Instructors 😂. Nice!

[@Me707B]

For everyone asking why they’re doing this: In this specific video they’re covering SOG (which is their national SWAT). That’s why it’s a selection. I’ve been a Marine and in Law Enforcement for 10 years, I’ve been on the USMS Fugitive TF and it was a BLAST. A good number of police are prior military 1. And 2. I don’t understand why people think selections should be exclusive to the military there are POGs (admin cooks etc ) that go through USMC bootcamp which at one time was pretty tough. And for what? they’re never going to touch combat 9/10. SOG in particular has been in Afghanistan and Iraq and hunts the worst criminals the U.S. has to offer we should WANT our police (especially federal law enforcement) to hold themselves to a high standard. Its crazy people want good cops and criticize them when they implement proven training methods lol

[@TimStandardRacingSuspension]

Well. Said!

[@ICALLBS-tb2kx]

So these are just cops? And boot camp is a lot different than a selection for special operations... This just looks like some boot camp / basic training stuff... Not a selection..

[@Me707B]

@@ICALLBS-tb2kx so yeah these are US Marshals, this is selection for their SWAT Team which is called SOG. I know guys that have done it and having done USMC bootcamp I feel like it’s a bit harder. Someone on here said it looks like an indoc for STA (from back in the day lol) I’d say that it more closely resembles that.

[@ICALLBS-tb2kx]

​@@Me707Bok..thanks for the response...just curious...what are the age and PT requirements for US Marshalls SOG?

[@Me707B]

@@ICALLBS-tb2kx So I’m not sure specifically what the SOG requirements are but to be a Marshal 21-36 (time in military service reduces your age in most govt agencies ie 40 with 4 years makes you 36 for eligibility purposes) their PT test isn’t bad it’s like 1.5 mile 1 minute push-up test 1 minute sit-up test and a s Sit and reach test: Measures flexibility. But the selection and their academy are both notoriously physically grueling.

[@countrygr33n21]

It’s funny he calls them kids some of them folks in their 40-50 in this video

[@ainefeaser5046]

Was thinking the same thing 😂

[@cashlindontv7293]

i was about to say this lol

[@timpoke]

Would love to do this, you guys are NEVER hiring

[@SomeBody-rm6hf]

Email the USMS recruiter and ask to be notified of the next information session.

[@anidnmeno]

you gotta _want_ it.

[@jchfuture]

Good content. Just waiting on that fit test.

[@chaset371]

lol aren’t we all, you heard they lost like 90 million and canceled like four classes right?

[@jchfuture]

@@chaset371 Yeah. There's a current hiring freeze for the DUSM positions, at least until FY25, hopefully not longer than that. Right now they are prioritizing the new FEO positions.

[@chaset371]

@@jchfuture yeah I interviewed for that today lol

[@jchfuture]

@@chaset371 Yeah a few people said it will be a year long process.

[@chaset371]

@@jchfuture I’m sure, two Years and four months into the dusm.

[@nathanharris1445]

Marine Corps boot camp basically

[@MrHeavyHitta]

Hah I was thinking the same thing.

[@SpaceRanger187]

without the butt stuff

[@marine102192]

More like sniper platoon indoc.

[@Theprimaryfocus]

That's what it looks like to me

[@MartyRodriguezOrthodoxMarine]

@nathanharris1445 : Not Even Close To Basic Marine Recruit Training ( BMRT). This Coming From An Honorably Discharged Regular Component United States Marine Corps ( USMC) Infantry Rifleman ( MOS 0311) and Reconnaissance Marine ( MOS 0321).

[@Innovativemediaandproductdesig]

Fun fact the Pinkerton private.detective agency was anto government until they were awarded the railroad contract and then grew into the secret service. 2:14

[@guidoalamosbaquerizo7413]

Question? The people who did this in Naval Special Warfare Program have to do this kind of training again?

[@hussite7235]

When on when will the USMS commence hiring...

[@4hyrule247]

No one wants to leave.

[@adamcallahan242]

They do more lateral transfer/hires than new hires.

[@bb5op585]

They didn’t get enough funding this year so they had to cut a bunch of classes this year.

[@SmokyOle]

​@@bb5op58560 billion just went to Ukraine. Sounds like that's where all the funding for hiring went.

[@himehime1629]

@@SmokyOle Nope, 60 billion went to replacing our military equipment and giving the older stuff to Ukraine

[@DGenXer]

Sooooo where do i sign up? Seem like they haven't done any hiring in awhile to be honest.

[@beansofhorrorshalashaska6987]

I know right? SOG seems “cool” I guess, but they never seem to hire for fresh deputies.

[@luismateonieves8346]

Looks like pre rasp but easier

[@trevorxhernandez]

looks nothing alike but ya this is a cakewalk compared to pre-rasp

[@platinumcontent9]

Although I can see most interested individuals took this opportunity too point out we are all waiting for USMS to hire. However seems as if the purpose of this video is too help make it go viral, so that the pencil pushers will increase the funding. As far as I know according to recruiters, most people apply to the Bureau because it's "cooler". Naturally, this will decrease the budget, doing what it's doing now.

[@matthewmarston5149]

It's not this,but that hunter mentality 😊

[@citizensoldier4782]

Time stamp 1:51 look at that instructor gut

[@mariosanchez9652]

This looks easy and fun

[@GunsWatchesCO]

Seen these guys training at FLETC. They go through hell compared to all other Fed Agencies.

[@elianproductions5128]

amazing to see people out there are still embracing the toughness while calling out the snowflakes of this generation, may jesus be with yall

[@DEVanderbiltCecil]

Is Tampa's Bill Berger gone?

[@matthewmarston5149]

God Bless you❤

[@polofresh6919]

This just stressed me out! 😅😅😅. Keep goin fellas!! 🙏

[@matthewmarston5149]

I am the 1 whom brought them all in

[@dukedynasty]

Got the brother looking crazy with that crooked helmet lol

[@MrZachgonz]

This doesn’t seem terribly difficult at all. And there already existed a very storied group of SOG operators so I’m curious why they chose that name. It would be like calling themselves Delta Force or something.

[@IHatePikeys]

Umm…that’s Studies and Observations Group ie black ops from Vietnam😂. Names are dime a dozen and black ops units like Vietnam era SOG have actual classified real names. This is not a “strike” unit going deep behind enemy lines. The instructors need to chill.

[@dallasyap3064]

Well it's just a name buddy, nothing serious. The things they do are different.

[@brandonbeavers4668]

Why are they in camo?

[@punkavaug]

Somebody has an instructor at nsw as a buddy. All jokes aside, y’all got a recruiter I can talk to?

[@beansofhorrorshalashaska6987]

Look on their website. There’s a page for regional recruiters

[@lalomora8615]

we need a part 2.

[@Theprimaryfocus]

I still remember when there was a hiring freeze.

[@stvargas69]

Why does a law enforcement department need to "select" like the military? USMS isn't an army, if they go overseas is for a specific arrest, not a raid. Or am I missing something?

[@blackwatch6649]

The federal goverment has been over-indulging law enforcement since 9/11. One of the easiest ways to hoover up more budget and get attention for the agency is to do "cool guy shit" like having an "elite tactical team". All the federal agencies are trying to make their own "HRT equivalent" rather than increase funding for their normal activities.

[@dial0foroperator]

Primarily because the Marshals do the real-world dirty work that most other Feds won't touch.

[@carritohmc]

This particular Law Enforcement agency does operations everywhere in the world, they participate in raids with Mexican marines. They need a selection because this is a special unit within the Marshals, even in local LE we had a selection for SWAT, FBI has a selection for HRT, hell in the Army there's a selection to go to some units that aren't even special forces. A specific arrest, even within the US, might be against a cartel hitman (they've been here for years). Having a selection makes it so they can drop those that can't meet the shooting and fitness standards, the general standards aren't that crazy for most Federal LE positions, but can get hard for their special units.

[@southerndiesels]

because bullets kill you whether they are overseas or domestic.....doesn't matter, a shootout is a shootout, the bad guy doesn't pause and say oh wait, we aren't overseas so I can't shoot you

[@matthewmarston5149]

Is this the Amber Alerts number to work?

[@ign1te9]

I have a problem with police pretending to be soldiers, sailors, airmen and marines.

[@ScraphouseTV]

Nobody cares what you have a problem with

[@alperdue2704]

If you understood the tasks they face you wouldn’t.

[@sarahfrye2886]

If no one has told you lately, just know that I appreciate and love you.

[@Innovativemediaandproductdesig]

Fun fact they have j original trapped inside Scott's rit system.

[@matthewmarston5149]

We cops fight each other's ideas of job effectiveness, but It's a Privilege that Lawyers have only, not another Cop in Cuffs.. 😅Feels good, being a Cop ..

[@swingnamiss8130]

Reminds me of San Diego! Semper Fi!

[@learning1646]

❤️🇺🇸❤️🇺🇸❤️🇺🇸 very nice

[@Clockwork0nions]

This doesn't seem as bad as 1 day of Basic 😆

[@matthewmarston5149]

Ma'am or Sir, may I have a job ❤

[@matthewmarston5149]

I-84 to I-5 California

[@jthawkins93]

This is basically Air Assault School

[@basicuds]

I love marshmallows

[@s.e.r.e._tech]

Screaming like an out of control child is unprofessional! When I went through the Special Forces Q Course there was no yelling. It was professional, they gave you the Task Conditions and Standards told you if you want it give it your best then recorded your performance. I was a Deputy U.S. Marshal after the Army and the SOG Deputies, most who never served in the military, acted like tough guys (we called them Badge Heavy). Not exactly what you want for a professional law enforcement officer. If you want to be in the military..enlist, if you want to be in law enforcement..intend to serve the public. I have more respect for professionalism, not wanna-bes. Here is how the professionals do it, notice there is no cadre running around yelling like they are high on crack instead the cadre generate self induced stress which has proven to be the best evaluation metric: kzbin.info/www/bejne/paeYgZqnic6qebMsi=K3B9MJDyOyOQJ-VF

[@fathead8933]

They saw it on a movie, so that’s how “training” is supposed to be. This is one of my MAJOR complaints about the U.S. military training system. None of this stuff prepares you for combat and actually destroys the cohesion of a unit. I’ve never been attacked in Iraq by a guy with a fat dip in his lip yelling at me to do pushups. Never once did I have an NCO take me and make me 3 to 5 second rush until I passed out with only grading my performance quietly to smoke me. Nope it’s all yelling screaming and genuinely completely unprofessional behavior. Truly what’s worse a 6 month private late to formation by a minute or the 8 year e6 yelling profanity’s at the top of his lungs in his battalion’s area so any passing unit can hear? It’s truly only a matter of time before stuff like sweeping rain, hands across America, mass punishment, Joe duck, lack of actual training on corrective action, and SNCO derelictions (Art 93 violations) are brought to congress because of the recruitment issues.

[@s.e.r.e._tech]

@@fathead8933 I agree with your statement. This is the difference between experienced military professionals and law enforcement individuals thinking acting like out of control crack addicts makes them look tough. After the Marshals Service I joined the FBI and worked with the CIRG. They get it. Their selection course was modeled on the SF and Delta Operator courses. They don’t go around screaming like crack heads discovering fentanyl for the first time. The Marshals Service is a great organization but I don’t want to burst any bubbles here but after going through a similar “boot camp” at FLETC and your all geared up to chase fugitives the reality they don’t tell you is your first two years will be sitting in the back of a Federal Courtroom in a suit and tie making sure no one acts up and trying to stay awake after lunch. If you’re lucky you may get tossed a cold fugitive warrant that you need to run whenever it’s a slow Court day. A good day is getting assigned to drive a van of prisoners around to various Sheriff Offices on contract to hold prisoners when the MCC is full. SOG is NOT the elite unit in the Marshals Service. The elite unit is WITSEC. These Deputies are Inspectors, operate out of unmarked offices in the Federal Building, are independent, have unmarked vehicles, special covert weapons and access to special DOJ programs to relocate and change the identities of cooperating witnesses against the: Mafia, Biker Gangs, terrorist groups, etc. But it takes years to qualify for WITSEC and it’s by invitation only. They watch all the junior Deputies and decide who they want to bring in. They work with the other DOJ LEAS , Treasury LEAs and Intelligence Agencies. Because of my previous SF background SOG tried to recruit me but as soon as saw how unprofessional they were acting I politely thanked them but wasn’t interested. As an aside, my prayers go out to the family of the Deputy killed in the line of duty yesterday. It’s a hazardous job which makes “professional” training and leadership that much more important.

[@ADDAmerican]

Probably just to add stress, these people have probably never had to deal with high stress and they need to see who will crack from just a little yelling. People going through the Q course like you would have already been through basic training and gotten that stress and the Q course is more about if you have the raw output necessary for the job

[@Samorroctiv]

@@ADDAmericanit’s literally to induce stress and frankly if you can’t handle being yelled at, I don’t want to be on the line with you! Straight up! I’m currently leaving the Army because of how unbelievably soft some parts of it is now. If you can’t handle the “indoctrination” of a specific unit, then don’t join the unit. “Well tasks conditions standards.” Okay, cool, task conditions standards here is to survive a smoke session if you’re bothered by it don’t join like holy crap. “Unprofessional” the purpose of the marshals is to put away felons not be a friendly neighborhood, cop like seriously.

[@s.e.r.e._tech]

@@ADDAmerican There are a number of ways to induce stress in a more realistic and mission focused way. When in basic and jump school what do you do when a DI or Black Hat are yelling nonsense at you? You tune them out till they find a new chew toy. In a high value fugitive warrant service if you’re yelling like a maniac someone is going to get hurt or worse. Why was the Q Course professional without juvenile antics but still stressful? Each task was clearly explained and time based, but they never told you the time or distance. So you had to push yourself not knowing if you were making time, distance or any other factor. You had to push yourself and do your best if you wanted it bad enough or quit. That’s the ultimate stress test, self induced stress! Not some guy acting like an idiot! This self induced stress is a common evaluative technique in most of the Special Operations selection courses. It’s used by SF, the Delta Operators Course, the SAS/SBS Selection course, the former Selous Scouts and South African Recce selection courses. Neither the FBI CIRG/HRT or Secret Service CAT run selection like an enlisted boot camp and neither should the Marshals Service. But that’s why they are not taken seriously by the other Federal LEAs despite having the broadest jurisdictional authority. Don’t forget these Deputies already went through the FLETC Criminal Investigator Course followed by the Marshals Academy so they already went through that basic training. All are experienced Deputies and then they have to go through this ridiculous nonsense? I was still in the SF reserves with 12th Group when I was a Deputy and when I saw this I had zero interest in volunteering as the training time could be better spent on mission focused high value warrant tactics and weapons proficiency. What makes CAG, DEVGRU and MSA/TFO superior Tier 1 Operators? Firearms proficiency! They train on the range and kill house constantly! If the USMS wants to develop proficient SOG Operators treat the candidates with respect, give them self stress induced realistic evolutions, and get their asses on the range & kill house and see who has the: temperament, motivation and firearms skills to be an outstanding Operator. But I’m not holding my breath if this ridiculous USMS video is how Headquarters wants the American public to see the Marshals Service and SOG. WTF were they thinking?

[@4hyrule247]

one day.

[@matthewmarston5149]

May I have a job 😊

[@sevenfivemedia2022]

I see Ranger black an yeller! RLTW! @operationdebrief

[@colemanwolfe7015]

Moving slow as pond water

[@matthewmarston5149]

He was in his car at a restaurant, hiding in the bathroom with a newspaper in his hands..

[@marktrees4976]

And all women who quit, were allowed to graduate and then promoted to ensure diversity.

[@matthewmarston5149]

Shutting down Roads by Sectors, calling Border Security,Coastguard,Navy.. 😅

[@JacobAguilar-rs7eg]

No way the Marshals would ever use a 240L 😂

[@tewkewl]

cops trying hard to looks like military specops operators. why? their mission profiile does not require this sort of training.

[@REPR100]

A bunch of guys playing army

[@Mr.Mondooblah-qu6ui]

Whose obstacle course is that? Quantico’s? Y’all wish you were a Special Operations Group. Five years on the force & y’all are as big as Texas. Y’all need enlisted ranks instead of more officers. Is FBI gonna let y’all ride in the choppers or are you guys just gonna kick it with Metro? Are y’all gonna deputize the Hunt Club & platoon of Boojihadeen to help secure the Charleston,West Virginia National Guard Army from the 10th company of the Michigan Security Force? Will you guys be getting paratrooper certifications so that you can secure Tacoma,Washington & Portland,Oregon from the Evergreen League of Fiends,Guerilla’s Olympianias?

[@MCollingdale]

That short school bus you ride is out front waiting to pick you up again dude. Bless your heart, you unintelligible simpleton....LOL

[@infantryski11b64]

All the larpers watching this like they could even accomplish 1% of this LOL

[@scolbert8071]

I don't see any F.B.I Agents in this class.

[@marine102192]

Why would there be?

[@shockstormswag]

Rather stay with HRT

[@JustJoeKane]

Sweet

[@NarutoUzumaki-vc4wy]

hardest training for a non-DOD service.

[@blackwatch6649]

HRT does a lot more stuff.

[@humbleservant9343]

I've read what seems to be a little envy & nescience in the comments.

[@Gabriel13099]

Standing army of ZOG

[@tylerarchambault4117]

Saturday May 4, 2024 4:47 PM central. Due to several incidents with the "emergency set-up" the 46% of the worlds power is officially in limbo and 6 hours from now said power in limbo will be interchangeable and throw outable my call will be for them to pay their own debts in full effective immediately and the throwing out of powers, standing, and groups and or individuals who are keeping the emergency situation unsatisfactory, unmovable, and unsolvable. - FTX9-FTX-09, DH9-N27NH-09, 9 lines, Halberd, 5 stars, Gods Hammer, taj mahal, Ingot, RED.

[@joebrown3569]

Cops trying to play drill sergeant is cringe

[@giannileegalvan2669]

This is for a just cause and they have to be as hard as the drill sergeants. At least they ain't like the so called Modern Day Knights charging 13k for wannabe BUDS training.

[@valdie91285]

Doesn't look like they're playing at anything.

[@kennyg9091]

Apparently, you’re not aware that a lot of cops are also former military. So it’s an easy transition.

[@Ajaws]

^^^ guy who was a cook in the army

[@tmwk__]

@@kennyg9091 Yeah, only 19%.

[@jt.8144]

SOG? lol. OK? Green Beret.

[@Milliwheats5621]

Responding to challenge... i reported this for toxic masculinity...

[@Smoovy93]

EZPZ

[@mateobadella3226]

One day

[@stephenhall5115]

Hardcore

[@ROUGHNECKROGERS]

Rad

[@MrAbraham119]

chew tabacca chew tabacca chew tabacca, spit if you aint infantry than yout aint shit

[@winnnguyen1331]

Nasty Nick vibes.

[@zacharylum1158]

These are not kids😂

[@codeman9145]

They need a few more recruits after yesterday

[@Blgtn43]

Playing military. Cute.

[@rapidfire1368]

Downgrade of buds?

[@dial0foroperator]

Upgrade for Chuds.

[@MaribelHernandez-sb4bf]

💙🤍❤️💔❤️‍🔥💙

[@ingemar_von_zweigbergk]

?

[@martinherrera4295]

Bortac is harder

[@bobforsyth2179]

Not sure if you’ve attended both? There have been/are former BORTAC guys in SOG.

[@tommydo8048]

bro what the fuck is this music

[@saltycastform2932]

Great. More henchmen for our overlords 👎🏽

[@zacharyfett2491]

“SOG”……..what a joke. You’re (supposed to be) a civilian law enforcement agency, not a paramilitary organization. And all this yelling; you all watched too many movies.

[@Pegasus_p12]

You obviously don’t understand what paramilitary means. Fire departments are paramilitary organizations so yes the marshals are most definitely a paramilitary organization.

[@antoniocruz5596]

They are not SOG! Stop using that acronym and title. It detracts from the history of real SOG veterans.

[@zacharylum1158]

Facts

[@eastofthemississippi2501]

Are you referring to MACV-SOG? Don't think another group decades later outside the military detracts from those guys. Not to mention "Special Operations Group" is not a unique name.

[@AntiCougar1988]

Are you a crazy person or what? Tell this shit to FBI HRT…. Bortac… CAT…. These dudes are the real deal lol

[@ricksanchez5147]

Ahhh basic training

[@_vandoos_]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@SuperTrb0]

Wanna be mil bros. They think they are high speed, meanwhile this kind of stuff is lighter than the basic training that thousands of teenagers attend every year. These dudes are a joke.

[@jaysaini955]

I don't want women in SOG, gawd.

[@Ronin____5000]

Seriously? Country twang as a background score to military-style smoke? BAHAHAHA.

[@aslysa2277]

Wannabe cops trying to be special forces 😂

[@Dirkdiggl]

A bunch of wanna be operators.. basically LEO as a whole

[@xiii_migz_xxx3223]

100% civilians who ended up as Marshalls pretending this is special operations… what a joke … most of them never spent a day overseas nor went through an actual selection…

[@jeremiahwilson1255]

Ya just lost 3 men in Carolina, mabey switch up your tactics for the sake of these men.

[@justpap-tr4cs]

This is so embarrassingly cringy

[@herdrugby11]

40 year olds doing about half of a D1 wrestling practice