Specialized Tarmac SL7 Vs Giant TCR Advanced Pro: The Ultimate Carbon Race Bike Shootout

[@Jamess92]

I was torn between the 2 but the power meter and carbon weels for less money made the tcr pro team a no brainer. The only complain I have now is I should have bought it a year earlier 😀

[@rohan-xc5mt]

Why is this?

[@Jamess92]

@@rohan-xc5mt the price increased 300€ and it was harder to find one in stock. I also had to wait 3 months to get a shorter stem.

[@Mantheon]

Giant as always been the best ''bang for your buck'' brand out there, it may not be as good as other brand on performance, but the package you get for your money is just marvelous, been on the TCR for a decade and never have i ever been unsatisfied by the performance and price,

[@Woodardray]

rode both today. 2022 TCR Advanced Pro 1 with a black diamond finish was the winner. Friend bought the Tarmac SL7 and it was easy to see that the TCR offered a smoother ride.

[@ciw8688]

So by the comment you are saying that the sl7 have more stiffness when compares to the tcr? I really having a tough time trying to choose one over the other

[@marcing7684]

Comes stock with Alloy wheels (does Tarmac) I mean how "Specialized" is that on a Top of the range multiple thousand $$$. Specialized - proudly ripping people off since 1974. I would choose TCR hands down any day of the week.

[@jodim739]

Its just like a designer bag. Functions the same different brand different prices It's rare that we see a colnago review. Because people who bought colnago just want the brand

[@woutervanes3533]

Agree. For Specialized, and specifcially S Works, you pay at least EUR 1.000 more just because of the brand. It is like Audi in automotive.....

[@jonathan_guerrero]

What about a TCR vs an Emonda. Would you still go for the TCR? I was dead set on a specialized but after many comments like yours I should listen and pass on it lol. The emonda I want is about $7000. At that price point. What's your pick? Thanks in advance!

[@Dee-Ell]

It has "Specialized" written on the downtube, fork and chainstays, in large bright font. Doesn't that make it more specialized? And the $$$ is to pay for the expensive high profile sponsorships.

[@endeavour5316]

I mean if you have the money for it despite the alloy wheels than yeah you should get it, Its all a matter of preference

[@Oilyhands749]

Very informative and honest review delivered perfectly, I couldn’t do either justice but great seeing someone who can . Keep up the good work

[@SichardRamuels]

Perhaps I'm biased as I ride a Giant at the moment, but it's got to be the TCR hasn't it? The Tarmac is clearly a very good bike, but £4250 for the S-Works frameset vs. £2600 for the TCR Advanced SL one makes it a non-contest in my book.

[@inferno4001]

No brainer!

[@87togabito]

Not really. I used to own the TCR first. Sold it to get the SL7. Both are very capable bikes. But I already own a very very comfy full suss bike I use for enduro riding. So having a “comfy” tcr was an overlap. Hence I went for the unapologetic racey SL7 to make a even bigger distinction between my two bikes. So it’s not always a value preposition that matters. In a hobby, you just buy what you can afford, value for money he damned.

[@ciw8688]

@@87togabito i heard from many people that the sl7 is less stiff than the previous tarmac and leans more to the comfortable side but how is the stiffness when compares to the tcr?

[@donadams5094]

Great review, interesting and useful. Any bike that is better looking and more comfortable gets my vote. Even if the Tarmac were clearly faster, which does not seem to be the case, most amateurs and maybe even some pros would benefit from a less “busy” ride.

[@abhimawa1]

Now looking at the 2 again after 2 years, the TCR looks more timeless & the SL7 looks somewhat dated, and the SL8 seems bashfully trying to become a modern TCR (?). Never mind the external cable routing as it looks ‘purposeful’ somehow

[@rmalenab]

SL7 for the looks. TCR for a more realistic, financially-responsible purchase

[@davidleonard3716]

Possibly go for TCR better value. Would love to see comparisons between Scott addict and trek Edmonda.

[@Fitforlifecoaching]

That would be a great vlog to watch as I'm a climber and love Trek but Emonda have lost its way for the average riders purse as they are heavy unless you have an endless pot of cash.

[@bernardo9202]

@@Fitforlifecoaching yeah the advertising on the emonda is just wrong af, the canyon ultimate sl 7 with 105 is lighther than their di2 version

[@jorgmischke5839]

Great video David. I like the way it is made. My favorite would be the TCR, despite the more "techy" look of the Tarmac. How about comparing the Canyon Ultimate with the TCR? I think a lot of people who are in the market for a versatile racy allrounder, are looking at these two bikes due to availability, model variety and value for the performance delivered.

[@ozzz3365]

I had 3 TCRs I have now the Canyon ultimate. Very similar geometry and feel. But still i would take the TCR every day! Its like a guided missile under your legs.

[@jason200912]

Gcn already did. They're nearly the same but tcr is barely more aero

[@kentwong3818]

" How about comparing the Canyon Ultimate with the TCR?" Arthur did. The Canyon lost dramatically in wind tunnel testing and pricing. The TCR won objectively.

[@jason200912]

@@kentwong3818 idk why he even compared an ultimate and not a aeroad.

[@spacedoodle6989]

Love your channel! So informative without the annoying and time consuming frills on other big reviewers. I am 95% of the way to putting a deposit on the new TCR Advanced Pro 0 with Ultegra 8100. Although the paint scheme on that frame only version that you have is almost enough to make change my mind. 😍😍😍😍😍

[@davidarthur]

👍😎

[@shazbarlas7799]

I’m typically not a fan of Giant (paint jobs don’t appeal to me) but your TCR looks really good. The shape and especially the colour is lovely. Good, thoughtful review.

[@jkrejci.]

SL7 feels faster because it offers more rigid, busy ride. I sold my SL6 S-Works last year, looked at Giant TCR and Bianchi, and went with Bianchi Specialissima at the end. For me, SL6 was a rigid plank of a bike, unforgiving, but fair to say, that it climbed as a mountain goat. Thanks David, great video as always!

[@ciw8688]

How is the sl6 compares to the sl7 stiffness and comfortable wise?

[@SergioSeminarioC]

Thahks for the information, David. I went ahead and upgraded my SL6 with a SL7 Comp with Rival ETAP AXS, with that exact same colour scheme. She is such a beauty and just brought her home today. Tomorrow I am going out to test her out. In a weeks time, I will update the R470s that come with the SL7 with my Roval Rapide CL II that I have.

[@ciw8688]

how is the stiffness of the sl7 when compares to the sl6?

[@struancochrane753]

I have just bought a tarmac SL7 expert with dura ace di2. Prob wish I hadn't seen this review, however I am looking forward to experiencing it. As well as having the luxury of keeping my current Specialized Secteur ES Aluminum 2011 as a general ride and winter bike. I suppose brand loyalty won out. Great objective video.

[@kirkshammett94]

I was dead set on a Tarmac this year but ended up getting a 2021 Emonda due to not being able to find anything else. I do not regret it at all! Definitely the best bike I have ever ridden!

[@kirkshammett94]

@stratgibson I have the emonda sl6 with zipp wheels and an enve cockpit. I love it. With that being said the only other road bike I’ve used is giant

[@Eyproshit]

The paintjob on the TCR is just so beautiful.

[@mikep277]

Great Review ! Thank you for such an honest review of two stellar beauties , I am definitely with you on the TCR for those 80% rides for pure enjoyment ! 🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼

[@winds10]

Just got a new TCR after watching your vids on em, David. Thanks. Cheers.

[@nelsdude]

me too...

[@MattSwain1]

I’ve placed an order for a TCR advanced pro so that’s where my vote goes! I’m the person you describe in the video, not a racer but wants a nice fast bike to ride around on just not necessarily flat out all of the time. It’s hard to argue with the value that Giant offer compared to other brands; it’s already difficult justify 5k on a bicycle but to match specs on some of the other brands was going to be significantly more and I’ve got no issue with my frame saying Giant rather than Trek or Specialized

[@nelsdude]

totally agree!!! Have had my new TCR Advanced Pro Disc 1 for 10 days now. I've owned a few real nice upper end bikes & so far this one tops them. I find it super fast and plenty stiff for my ole bones...but the ride is amazing comfortable. Kudos to Giant and the upgrades. I could care less about hiding all the cables & wires....I guess I was used to my previous Super Six Evo Hi Mod Disc.

[@jmel999]

Hello David. Great reviews and comparisons! You've given the Giant TCR Advanced Pro high marks a number of times now. I've been riding a 2011 Specialized Roubaix Comp for 10 years, and am now ready for an upgrade. Back when I first demoed a number of bikes before making my purchase, the Tarmac was my favorite for performance, but I kept gravitating back to the Roubaix for the comfort of the ride after my three back surgeries. But the Roubaix's handling with a taller stance was twitchy and nervous through tight turns, which was instantly resolved when the dealer flipped the stem downwards and matched the front geometries from the Tarmac to the Roubaix. The down side to my 2011 SL2 Roubaix is that I've been plagued with terrifying speed wobbles that are easily triggered by crosswinds, or washboard irregularities in the road, that have never been resolved after three BG fittings! With that I'm now on a mission. I recently rode a tricked out S-Works Aethos at the Specialized Experience Center in Boulder and was instantly 'one with the bike'. It was an awesome ride right out of the gate ... climbing steep grades, bombing down Lee Hill while smacking the handlebars to try to induce a speed wobble, and cruising the back roads with a huge smile on my face. But I can't afford an $11,000 S-Works Aethos! Specialized tried to tell me that an Aethos Pro would be close to the same ride as the S-Works with racing tires, etc., but again the $8,500 sticker price is awfully steep. I never would have known about a Giant TCR Advanced Pro until I just stumbled onto 'Just Ride Bikes' and your reviews! I would like to see a side by side comparison of the Giant TCR Advanced Pro and the Aethos Pro ... "Would the rides be as comfortable and enjoyable, with no speed wobbles?" Would that be doable? Thanks and keep up the great work!

[@davidarthur]

An Aethos Vs TCR comparison would be great, I'll see if I can make that happen next year

[@geotuco]

I really love TCR PRO, changed last year form a previous Canonndale EVO. Cheers from Argentina, great video.

[@danstenis660]

David you obviously have good taste for appearance and good judgement for livable performance. The TCR is the obvious choice.

[@darrenbarlow5759]

Got a Tarmac Sl7 in February. Same spec as the one you tested except with Di2. You hit the nail on the head David. The bike literally begs to be ridden fast. It's almost impossible not to ride it flat out. Some of my friends don't understand what I mean when I describe it this way. Now I know I'm not crazy 😜 cheers mate

[@mechpatt]

It’s disheartening as these things just keep wanting to go faster, faster than my heart and lungs can go!

[@GS-pk9rd]

Exactly the feeling I get from my 2015 TCR advanced sl - always makes me want to go harder than I planned. If modern TCR's are really no longer like this then what are they thinking? At 6.7kg and only a few £K I guess the golden age of race bikes is a few years ago 😞 now people seem to be more worried about integrating cables 🤷‍♂️ and weight and performance be damnned!

[@Jarek.]

I’m on SL7 for last 6 months. Sometimes it feels almost too fast 😮 And cornering like crazy. Having said that - I got 2nd set of wheels. So now stock C38s are on 30mm tires for long adventure trips. And the new 55mm deep are on 26mm stock tires for fast bunch rides and racing. Cheers 👍

[@ciw8688]

Many people are saying that the sl7 is less stiff the the previous tarmac. what is your opinion one this? And does your bike flex when you put down high wattage?

[@mohamadjamil3164]

Am quite upset with major brands for the unjustifiable increase in prices.

[@rowancall2879]

It's definitely not ideal, as I don't necessarily consider the SL7 Comp w/ Rival a $5000 bike, but it's simply a supply demand issue.

[@onehourmusicbc]

hmmm, when the demand goes up and the supply cannot keep up, the market will automatically increase the price. That's how it works I guess.

[@mohamadjamil3164]

@@onehourmusicbc the price of the Sagan ethos frame increased by 40 percent in one month….and it is available in all size. The bike manufacturer is taking advantage of the situation. This has nothing to do with supply and demand. It has everything to do with greed. As long as we will buy those no matter what, they will increase the prices. I just decided not to

[@onehourmusicbc]

@@mohamadjamil3164 whoh. I thought you were talking about the increase of about 100-200 bucks on Giant bikes for the 2022 release. I never heard that specialized had an increase of 40% on bike. Then thats pretty unusual.

[@scottwatson7844]

Always been a fan of Giant bikes and have two, it’s just so hard to get past the added value you get from them. Looking on there websites the tarmac SL7 comes in at £5250 compared to the TCR advanced pro 0 at £5200 but the latter gets carbon wheels and a power meter so paint job aside the Giant wins it for me.

[@mikeengland8331]

The TCR Adv Pro 0 also has Di2. Cycling Weekly carried out a review of this TCR compared to a Scott, Specialized and BMC at the £5000 price point, and it won 1st place. They weighed the bike and it was the lightest out of the four, 7.3kg.

[@ereky2991]

You nailed it!!! Great review!!! Having ridden both bikes (and own the SL7) I couldn't have said it any better!!!

[@ciw8688]

is the sl7 actually stiffer than the tcr in your opinion?

[@sepg5084]

Giant, all day every day.

[@user-nu5fx6en9h]

😂😂😂

[@mbal4052]

@@user-nu5fx6en9h ✊🏻💦

[@cibo23]

And Specialized when you want to ride a bike 😅

[@klettersteig599]

@@cibo23 found the dentist

[@Lonewolf54322]

@@LOGICAL-JAY yeee. Then 1 crash your tarmac is basically useless.

[@stevesfitnessjourneybikean208]

I bought a TCR advanced disc this yearm I love it. I agree about the ridem it's creamy smooth with 25mm tubeless tyres. Tcr v Trek Emonda!

[@whitegorillia117]

Tcr just bought one used and now I can't get off of it. Stiff and fast, best road bike ever!!

[@marcoshernandez745]

David please please please if you can do some wind tunnel testing on the TCR advanced pro versus the SL7 tarmac

[@jasboehlke]

The Giant's paint is gorgeous and far less cluttered with logos.

[@onehourmusicbc]

it used to be ugly, like the propel paint. Now it's very good.

[@add28]

Another great video. I've been riding previous TCR advanced pro since 2016 and I love it, amazing all around bike. The only downside is it doesn't hold that much speed on flats. I know aerodynamics were improved with the current model but before I purchase new bike I'll wait till the release of new Propel. With the latest trends should be more comfortable then the current one and even more aerodynamic. I hope new Propel will be released really soon and as soon as its possible you'll review it with details for us 🙂 Cheers Dave

[@Pablo_Coach]

aero id in your body position, not bike itself

[@jamesgeraldwebster]

Thanks for the great review. I would pick the TCR based on more comfort, value for money and comparable speed to the Tarmac. I have a 2022 version in amber colour which is very nice to look at. I recently put some 30 mm Pirelli P Zero tyres on and new handlebar tape on my TCR which has made the ride very comfortable with no reduction in speed. In fact I believe I am riding faster because I have more confidence on the road. I cannot afford to upgrade the wheels but am happy with the stock ones. Giant do offer very good value for money when compared to Trek and Specialized.

[@seaton0908]

got this tcr pro 1 XS size disc 2021 last Nov 20 . nearly 1000km on ii amd looks a fantastic machine. Well balanced. I don't mind with outer cables. The power meter work perfectly. Fall in love with the bike.

[@rteitel1974]

TCR is a no brainer. Best value for a race bike. Issue is, nothing is available!

[@javigutierrez9040]

Great video. After read last year TCR review in your chanel I both TCR pro disc with ultegra, and very happy of course specialized is a good bike but I don't change my TCR, 👍

[@karaelnkarenamazingjourney3459]

I had sl6 sworks then change to tcr SL. I usually ride around 150-200km. For longride better sworks. Its more smooth than TCR SL. For climb TCR SL its more responsive than sworks. But for flat TCR its more stiff so not too comfy. For speed better Sworks. For me better spez/sworks than tcr

[@danc1829]

Great video David 👌

[@Supermurph75]

The Tarmac has the squashed appearance to me, like when you shrink an image of something. I’d take the TCR.

[@chrisvanbuggenum871]

Good review as always David, however in Australia you can get the SL7 frameset in 10R, which i did, i built it up with Dura Ace mechanical.

[@damo5219]

My homework for this weekend

[@gavanconroy8453]

I’m coming to the party way too late, but with Australian pricing this isn’t even close. Right now, For $7k Aus, the Giant gets you SRAM force and a power meter or ultegra Di2, and carbon wheels as stock over the sl7 SRAM rival and aluminium wheels. I really like the Sl7, but it’s going to cost me north of $9k to get it to the same spec....when it comes to justifying the cost to the Mrs, it’s not much of a decision. The bigger question for me is do I wait for new models, or do I buy now?

[@domdownes7414]

A well balanced review. Nice one!

[@MrJwmurph]

Another great review David, I've a previous generation TCR Advanced (2019) that I loved so much I couldn't part with it when buying another bike. The Aethos v Specialissima would be great to see as both are climbing, classic looking bikes.

[@jaromtollefson3127]

I tested the Aethos comp. It was really nice. But! The value for money is low IMO. The wheel set at the comp level for 5,000 USD is really really low.

[@jamesbull9879]

Great review! Just personally love the look of the sl7, but let’s be honest, give me either and I’m a happy chap!

[@paulwilliams4990]

For everyday riding the TCR every time.

[@arthurmorgan9661]

As a person who works in a bikeshop Heres my say Have been through both the bikes as we sell it and i must say the packaging/unboxing experience is way way better in specialized compared to Giant Giant is just way cheaper here in India compared to Specialized or Trek for same spec Cockpit components like saddle , handlebar , stems - id say specialized is better Have seen the frames from inside and i gotta tell specialized has a better overall finishing compared to giant The TCR is superbly light weight for its price but Specialized looks better though imo The wheels suck in giant Cable routing is shit in specialized

[@Pablo_Coach]

Why cable routing is shit on specialized?

[@adrianbaba1982]

I would definitely choose the Canyon SL 8, better price, components and weight.

[@tvKACAQ]

Nice review! I’m loving my Giant TCR Advance 2 Disc. But I do feel like SL7 is well better package

[@andrewkolb2527]

I used to have a TCR. Great bike but aggressive reach and posture. I like the defy a bit better in my 40's. That being said, I almost always reach for my Emonda ALR. I just love it with aeolis 5s

[@hippoace]

I heard SL7 has a recall over their integrated headset?

[@sbccbc7471]

It's related to the compression ring and steerer tube expander plug.

[@NoahStephens]

The TCR is overall better looking. Great paint job. That said, internal cable routing just looks so much better

[@georgiaguardian4696]

Fantastic review on two dream bikes!

[@davidarthur]

Glad you liked it!

[@nellyx1x493]

Would be interested to see how TCR compares to Aethos, much closer perhaps. For the time being I'll stick to my old Sworks Tarmac SL4 rim brake bike, below 6.8kg and built up for about the same as these two, with a likely even better level of ride quality and performance. Barring the brakes - which aren't necessary anyway for an experienced rider - I don't see how these modern disc bikes beat that... unless ones willing to spend near 10k, which most riders aren't.

[@lazyrider6918]

EXACTLY...Specialized are OUT OF CONTROL with their prices now and the weight of these bloated mid range disc brakes for $5k are a joke. My SL3 Tarmac Project Black with 10 speed Ultegra weighs 16.6 lbs with cages, pedals and GPS mount. Why would I pay $10K for a new Specialized that to get the same weight for disc brakes that really don't matter??? People have been duped.

[@nellyx1x493]

Agreed. If one has nice 'legacy' wheels and groupset and it comes to needing a new frame when increasingly mainstream manufacturers aren't making them, I'd rather spend more to go custom rim frameset in any material than buy a whole new disc bike. Cant help but think SP are missing a trick by not making an Aethos frame available in rim brake and fittings for mechanical group, this could be near frame perfection for many riders and I'm convinced there'd be a market for it...make it available in Pro as well as Sworks level and they'd gain a lot of customers. The weight of the tested above is closer to my hardtail mountain bike than my road bike.

[@lazyrider6918]

@@nellyx1x493 The Aethos is the ONLY current Specialized that I would consider with disc option. But I still would want a rim brake option. People don't realize that the entire feel and road dynamics are changed to compensate for disc brake forces on a frame. A rim brake bike is more nimble and quicker by its nature. The super wide tire is also horseshit.

[@mynewcolour]

A rim brake Aethos would be interesting 🤔

[@林瑞辰-u8n]

In China Giant TCR pro is absolutely the best choice for an amazing cheap price. It costs about 4700dollars to buy the 0class.And the tarmac sl7 comp is about 4950dollars. Maybe the frameset is not better than the tarmac sl7 10r but the carbonwheels SLR1 is fairly good for group training&daily riding. If you would like to upgrade your settings for climbing and city transport maybe specialized is availabe for the open tire rather than tubeless it is easy to fix and change and if you change Dt470 to alpinist series,you go into a new world.

[@RoadHardened]

Here's really what I would have loved to see in this Shootout... Which bike is faster? Like with actual objective data: timed laps at same power on the same course on the same day to try to remove any weather or wind variables. How much does that aero advantage of the Tarmac make in seconds??

[@GS-pk9rd]

There would be zero significant difference.

[@tiguanr4960]

Wouldnt this be better if you compared Tarmac SL7 vs TCR SL0?

[@mipko]

thank you very much this review helped me a lot

[@PTAguy2010]

TCR was built for racing. Period! I have the SL and love it

[@ciw8688]

Why would you think that the tcr is better for racing?

[@Pablo_Coach]

@@ciw8688 stiffness and geometry dude

[@LaRuta-sk8rr]

Hi David, love your reviews, I’m between the 2022 TCR Pro and the Aethos comp, so I’d like a comparison between the two.

[@moisestejeira3205]

Excellent review. Will love to see the TRC compared to an Aethos

[@elmerrichardson6413]

I just ordered a Giant TCR, its due in next week. Counting the days.....

[@davomccranko]

Damn, that's heavy. My massive xl Ridley Fenix SL that I paid €1400, barely used, full Ultegra weighs the same as those bikes, at 8kg, with cheap enough Zonda alu wheels. Rides amazing and is not so slammed on the front. Oh, did I mention its rim brakes. Love them.

[@stanleyling6116]

Thank you for the comparison review. Any possibility to compare Specialized Aethos vs Giant TCR?

[@chrismingo9667]

Need to ride that TCR !! Looks such a great bike 👏🏻👏🏻👍🏼

[@thebluelion3337]

So in objective terms, the TCR is cheaper, lighter and is about equal to the Tarmac on the timed sections? The TCR wins hands down, it's no competition. Even the subjective elements cancel out - TCR with more comfort vs Tarmac with better looks

[@geraldtone5914]

Dont forget, comes with carbon wheels and a powermeter standard

[@nelsdude]

I agree with David and like even the looks better of the TCR than the SL7...

[@ivanyhtang]

David, another fantastic video! I badly want to get the TCR Advanced Pro, partially due to your reviews but sadly there is no stock at all in my size. However I just came across the new 2022 Trek Emonda SL 6 which comes stock with the new SRAM Rival eTap AXS in my size! Could you please do a comparison of these two?! I'm hoping the Emonda is compliant like the TCR, the Tarmac would be too stiff for me. Thanks and keep it up!!

[@davidarthur]

Hi Ivan, sadly I haven't yet ridden the new Emonda SL to compare it to these bikes, getting bikes is a real pain at the moment as you know. Hopefully that'll change soon

[@jerehada]

Amazed how heavy disc these bikes are. These are 1kg heavier than my old size large canyon endurace was out of the box. They're also the same weight as it is now with pedals and hardshell tyres sturdier rebuilt wheel and a few other cheaper 105 bits. But they don't half look good so I would have bought the giant frameset if I could find one!

[@steveflor9942]

Giant has had great success with press fit bottom bracket. Specialized and Trek.....Not so much. Exposed cables much easier to service and pack for trips. Don't like dropped seat stays. Much prefer the classic look and paint of the TCR. Giant wins... going away!

[@tonyg3091]

The main difference for the Europeans is: you can have a TCR now or Tarmac in 2056. P.S. Love my TCR Advanced Pro, great bike.

[@geraldtone5914]

I dont get it. Please explain.

[@brandenalexander6038]

@@geraldtone5914 means its fucking expensive

[@SignorLuigi]

@@brandenalexander6038 I thought he meant the Tarmac is simply not available due to COVID supply issues!

[@Byerly92]

@@SignorLuigi think so, too. but giant is neither.

[@SignorLuigi]

@@Byerly92 Hi Nils! I agree, so I was confused by the OP's comment. There are no bikes. Just advertisements for bikes. 🤣🤣🤣

[@arttatee11]

I am using Tcr adv sl. I am so happy.

[@goldpedal-himanshurawat379]

Nice and neat described video thank you for the information. I’m new to road bikes, and I want the one for going uphill and decent for fun. So which one is better for cornering?

[@abalamucka]

Everyone has their own preferences in terms of what looks good, but as someone being 1.6m tall, I've got to say that Tarmac looks way better in my size. And since small sizes doesn't sell that well, I've got a really nice deal in terms of price - I'll just leave this information here because no one really talks about smaller sizes :D

[@ashtonkoh6548]

@Agnieszka I’m same height as you, what size for tarmac are you riding? Thank you 😊

[@abalamucka]

@@ashtonkoh6548 Size 49 😉

[@ashtonkoh6548]

@@abalamucka thank you 😉

[@onehourmusicbc]

TCR with Rival eTap and SLR1 wheel costs abt 3700 usd in Taiwan. I think the value is pretty good huh? Though I look forward to the new ultegra di2 version, comes around 5k usd.

[@endeavour5316]

Is it just me or does the drop seatstays make a big difference? Cuz I originally thought that the tcr was built more for comfort and the tarmac was more race oriented

[@giovannidagostino1402]

You should do a comparison between the SL7 and the Filante SLR to see which one you feel is best being both light aero bikes.

[@strydomgroenewald1603]

Hey David it would be great to see a comparison between the SL7 and Atheos in the same price category as the SL7 comp with the SRAM Rival AXS.

[@huayeum]

Personal I think Athens looks like TCR a lot...

[@lionelpayette4628]

The 2021 TCR Advanced 0 is my new bike and I love it.

[@wss327]

Super comparison!

[@ryanS593]

I’m more for giant so I’m very biased. Based on the fact that Giant is the brand I ride and buy.

[@DEXVD]

Would like to see more tests like this, SL7 vs the 23 Propel would be great.

[@Thomas-fy9yc]

Really would like a compare between the TCR and my personal favorite, the SupersixEVO.

[@liapancia4470]

GREAT TEST !! CONGRATS !! would you please tell me which one is better for climbing in your opinion ? ....considering I love climbing......

[@turbosalsa]

Tarmac SL7 i like the total integration no cables showing, great review by the way. how about comparing the cervelo S5 Vs cannondale system six

[@Pablo_Coach]

lol you don't like servicing that "integration" dude

[@joelam8788]

Felt likes you finally earned the respect from $pecialized...good work david...both are excellent bike i would like the look of tarmac but prefer the price and spec of the tcr...lol

[@pakelly99]

exactly my dilemma too

[@goranvulic4791]

greetings, why do they advertise only S-Works as a super light and fast bike for all trails from flat to uphill and downhill when we also have Pinarello, Colnago and Cervelo, Giant TCR Advanced Pro. and one more question, which of them is the most comfortable for long drives

[@jameshoward9700]

£5.5k. 8kg. No pedals. So 8.5kg with cages, mount and pedals… So heavier and little more aero than a 10year old bike. TCR is the better bike here. My lad’s 2019 TCR with 105 cost £1500 new and weighs 7.5kg. Hmm, evolution?

[@fede1275]

I agree. Even without entering the rim vs disc debate, it is clear that now you can't buy a light rim brake affordable race bike anymore. Light with disc is £££££

[@Williamchan87]

umm you are incorrect they do use SRAM, the 2022 is with SRAM Rival eTAP AXS

[@davidcole6893]

Yes , saw that on Japanese web site. No guarantee it will come on European market I guess ?

[@Williamchan87]

@@davidcole6893 I saw it on the Taiwan site and typically it's the same bikes.

[@McLovin38FFs]

Would like to see a comparison between the tcr and the Merida Scultura.

[@WalterWalsh-l2i]

David - great video, very helpful. I am leaning towards the Giant TCR Pro 0. My only reservation is the hookless/tubeless wheels. What are your thoughts on living with them as a regular club/sportive rider?

[@odarge]

I plan to buy the Advanced Pro 0 Ultegra di2 soon. It is Sold with Cadex tires, which are very good (rolling). Check the Giant compatibility chart online , even a GP5000 version is compatible with it. Standard Cadex TL are good for me as they will be my fort TL tires 😊

[@DavidSmith-ld1jx]

Would love to see a TCR vs Specialissima comparison? Seem similar, looks to the Bianchi but value to the TCR?

[@josemanuelalvarez6242]

Hi David. Nice video. Where did you buy the Giant TCR Pro frame stand-alone? As I can see in the Giant’s website it is no available. Regards

[@monty2078]

Great review

[@murphyhui9690]

I've TCR powerpro and Garmin. Cannot get pedal dynamic to work. Did you got it to work? I really want to see how my pedal powerphase looks like instead of just left and right power numbers.

[@kf168]

tcr. no debate.

[@hunterkiller009]

TCR seem to be the better value of the two but there is something better value than TCR advanced pro though. It's TCR advanced 2021. Same frameset material with slightly narrower steerer tube (30% decrease in tortional stiffness according to Giant but probably nothing according to most people that aren't racing at high level)

[@sbccbc7471]

Plus, far more stem options with the 1 1/8-inch steerer tube.

[@ghostandtapeDoesVideo]

Is this a special color way for the UK only? Can’t find it here from Spain

[@littlevo9]

i have tarmac and one of my friends have a tcr...difficult choice but the tarmac is more agrssive and i like that!!

[@littlevo9]

Depuis j’ai acheté un sl7 (j’avais un sl6) et c’est un vélo incroyable il est rapide et filtre bien la route (les routes de champagne en France ne sont pas belles) pour moi c’est le vélo ultime je ne lui trouve aucun défaut et en plus il a une ligne à couper le souffle.

[@nathancouse3596]

I'll take the sl6 over both. More round tubeshapes like the giant. And much more comfortable and more importantly much cheaper. No integrated cockpit, put a set of carbon wheels on and still wayy under budget from what these 2 bikes cost