Spectral Processors - 296t vs Sputnik vs Fumana vs Bark Filter

[@FrapTools]

Excellent comparison! A little clarification: the numbers on the plate aren't the bands' central frequencies, but their extremes. That's why they are between the faders! Hope this makes sense, cheers!

[@Stazma]

Oh nice I didn’t read the manual well enough hahaha. But I guessed so by the sound of it as a 15 Hz Bandpass would not pass much signals

[@runglerhz5590]

Thanks for this video! Strengthening my recent 296t buy. Was caught between the Fumana and the 296t but this video proves I made the right choice for what I wanted to do with the module.

[@Pspiralifemusicandedu]

Thanks for going to the effort to compare all of these for us!

[@Stazma]

It was great fun! Now trying to figure out how to do the same for complex oscillators after the release of the 259t hahaha.

[@supercompooper]

I have the Fumana and love it. I also love here the Sputnik one. They compliment each other very well.

[@eento06]

Was looking for this exact video, great job like usual Stazma!

[@timnordberg7204]

thanks for all the work. would have loved to see a feedback test too.

[@MartinDoudoroffLLC]

Thank you for doing this! Really interesting!

[@dinraum]

The 207t has a preamp for the vocoding thing. Another reason to get the 207. looks like have the topobrillo mixer?

[@nectariosm]

I bought the 296t because I've always wanted a Buchla 200 system and TTA allowed for that dream to slowly come true (259t and 285t are coming!). I have to say that the Fumana would be my choice, mainly because of the features but also that low end(!)...having said all that, I do with there was a way to switch the program outs on the 296t to take account of the sliders, but yeah..that was not available on the OG 296 and that's that I guess. I do love the sound of the 296t...but the Fumana is the one for me from this test. I didn't like the sound of Verbos. Brutal sounds I get from processing the 296t...but yeah, Bark is not my cup of tea. Nice test!...I think...I have Fumana GAS now....oh well...back to my lovely 296t :)

[@anthonyrothercom]

thank you

[@blush_response]

great and informative video, thank you

[@Stazma]

Thanks sir ;-)

[@tcrist56]

Thanks for that excellent comparison of the Sput and 296t. I bought the Sputnik last year. And this confirms why. It just sounds so much better than the rest. Alive, rich, and very "modular" sounding. I too like the visual aspect on the fader LEDs. I like the longer fader throws on the 296t though. If you take out the increase in amplitude above 0db, the faders on the 296t are about twice as long. As these modules are perhaps more for studio work as opposed to performative, it's nice to have the greater resolution.

[@milan-murratti]

Should I really look at this? I've already decided in favour of the Sputnik and bought it😊. I'm also very happy with it. I'll watch it anyway, of course, because your videos are very interesting.

[@fosferus]

well done wrangling all these together! i do slightly prefer the tta 296 sound, but i think i'll stick with my sputnik as some of the features make it capable of a bit more sonic weirdness. spectral energy transfer is fun to nerd out on! one other small tip: the envelope follower duration on the sputnik does actually have a minor impact on the sound, so there's some subtle tweakability there too!

[@blogic12]

This vid confirms everything I love about the sputnik. Sticking with it for sure.

[@DukeOfPrune]

Merci beaucoup Staz!

[@bobbfett.musiclab]

Yes, amazing tutorial, fantastic with more information about these exotic modules. I’ve got spectraphon, that’s based upon these but become something totally different. Thank you

[@mastermachetier5594]

I too have a spectraphon and trying to decide if I go for one of these as well 😂

[@Stazma]

Great! Would love to play with the Spectraphon at some point too!

[@000aleph]

Thank you. Unexpected fun!

[@kipropmusic]

Thanks!!!!!!! super video as usual

[@mastermachetier5594]

If I’m not correct the sputnik is a collab with ssf and anything SSF touches is gold

[@chrissherman01]

Very nice, I learned a lot from this one

[@EarthnikNews]

Where does the Moog Spectavox fit into this???

[@Stazma]

I have to try it to say but it’s probably a good addition to this spectral processor family. It probably goes a little less far on the envelope follower side, but you get variable frequency !

[@tihinter]

@@Stazma Moog Spectravox is more like a fixed tonal order of resonant bandpasses in 4 octaves and the 4 fifths in between, that can be transposed by the knob and via CV. Having it on my table as we speak. But it really sounds great, too! And the inbuilt OSC (which can go far below 1Hz and up beyond 30k and tracks very well) and LFO (which even can go up to 600Hz, but has mediocre V/Oct tracking) contributes a lot to its possibilities. Sadly it is mono and lacks those even and odd outs! But it can ping beautifully. And it can do crazy Filter-FM. And I really miss those sliders from the first prerelease DIY version of it. Knobs without knobheads for the bandpass levels? Not the most user friendly idea.

[@tihinter]

I‘d kove to compare it with Serges CV Res EQ!

[@WhileWeWereSleeping]

Thanks for such a detailed comparison. I am thinking of getting the Sputnik or furmana. I only had a deep look at the Sputnik and did not realise the others did not use the faders for the program out. That probably rules out furmana as it’s to clean sounding. If you could turn down some of the bands on the vocoder it would be amazing. I need weirdness in my life :)

[@ahorseinahospital]

Super interesting, thanks for making this vid

[@Stazma]

You’re welcome ! It was a hard but fun journey

[@oscilop]

What an awesome video! My wallet is crying. The 296 sound kinda speaks to me, what to dooooo.

[@jazzbeats8168]

Pls do a demo for the Serge VC Resonate EQ

[@Stazma]

I will ask RS ;-)

[@regularmenthol]

Very helpful thank you!

[@aaaaargghh]

Have you tried the new Tracker+ from Polyend?

[@Stazma]

It should arrive at my house today ;-)

[@FM-fi5cx]

Très intéressant. Merci pour cette comparaison.

[@ghostexits]

I'd love to hear someone try Moog-Murf type rhythmic sequencing on one of these filter banks-- I've yet to see any. I think Murf uses 8 or more outputs from a Shift Register (like Turing Machine/Doepfer SOU random register outputs) into 8 or more separate band CV inputs. This should let you sequence repeating patterns of multiple filters, rather than just shifting overall spectral tilt with one CV. Pretty sure this is how the Murf works, with a shift register.

[@Stazma]

I can try something out one of these days. You cna go much furhter with these kind of things than with a Murf with the indiviual band control but it lack the immediacy of that classic Moogerfooger (I have one so I know hahaha, I need to do a video about it one day too).

[@ghostexits]

@@Stazma for sure, these spectral banks are way more versatile than Murf-- but the Murf still does something pretty unique, not trivial to reproduce. Each band on the Murf gets "sequenced" up and down independently, and all at the same time. It would be cool to figure out this effect on the 296. you could get 8 sequences with shift reg, but maybe also needs simple env on each band (?)

[@mamakuproject]

I’d love to hear the new serge vcreseq in there for comparison- even if it is very different being resonant

[@Stazma]

Comparing four at the time was already quite a headache, but I’d love to try it at some point for sure (GTS demo coming soon tho)

[@mamakuproject]

May be a comparison between the serge and the buchla which you have if you can get hold of the serge. Yes for gts!

[@FM-fi5cx]

Salut Stazma. Petite question comme toujours. L'harmonique oscillateur est à peu près le même module mais avec un oscillateur et avec moins de bande de fréquences ? Merci pour cette vidéo ça donne envie d'en avoir un 😱🫣. J'adore le bruit que ces modules génèrent.

[@Stazma]

Non c’est pas du tout la même chose même si niveau interfaces ça peut y faire penser, certain des concepts sont similaires niveau manipulation mais ici c’est vraiment un module d’ « effet », un filtre dans le lequel tu passe du son. L’Harmonic Oscillator il génère du son mais ne peut pas en traiter par contre.

[@kazakore]

Well that didn't stop me GASing after the Fumana. Although in some parts it does sound a bit smooth than is really my tasting. Almost wanting both a Fumana plus a Sputnik now.... I would have loved a section in the shootout on spectral mixing, with two complex sounds to Odd and Even and how well each of them manages this aspect of the unit's operation. But overall very informative, thank you.

[@Stazma]

I didn’t thought about it indeed, it was already quite a bit of work doing this.

[@jgchodakowski]

Instant like even before I've watched it. I've wanted to see this exact subject covered forever.

[@boblove2912]

TipTop Buchla all day long.

[@Bestmann3n]

The frequencies written on fumana's panel are the corner frequencies of the bands. The center frequency sits in between the corners, that's what you want to compare with. So for example the center frequency of the lowest band is 40 hz, not 15hz, and for the top band it's 13750hz, and of course the bands cover the range between the corners. Every video on fumana seems to get this wrong. Still great comparison though!

[@Stazma]

Yes indeed, but still the center frequency are different than the others. Glad you liked the video ;-)

[@HenriDeCarvalho]

Travail de titan ! Bravo et merci

[@Stazma]

Merci à toi pour les encouragements ;-)

[@Jon-BEDM]

Delicious taste testing❤

[@BobbyMBoMor-z6s]

296 is easily the nicest sounding. The Fumana sounds very flat.

[@Stazma]

Agreed on the 296 but I don’t thing the Fumana sound flat at all.

[@tomio_ueda]

the tiptop one sounds so damn good

[@Stazma]

It’s a matter of taste but I think it’s my favorite as well.

[@synthemodulaire]

Super cette vidéo ! Je n'en suis qu'à la première partie, mais je suis surpris que le Tiptop s'arrête à 0dB, sur le 296 on monte à +6dB.

[@synthemodulaire]

Le Fumana est complètement dingue !

[@Stazma]

En fait il s’arrête même à -3dB si on en croit le manuel. Il faudrais voir si l’original faisait pareil (c’est un clone le tiens j’imagine ?)

[@synthemodulaire]

@@Stazma Le manuel parle bien de +6dB et le classic reissue de Buchla monte aussi à +6dB.

[@Stazma]

@@synthemodulaire Étrange choix en effet, peut être du a la conversion en eurorack. J’essaierais de leurs poser la question au Superbooth tien !

[@synthemodulaire]

@@Stazma Peut-être que ça ne tenait pas en 3U ! Haha ! Mais ouais, c'est surprenant ce choix.

[@p.enzovoort8929]

Great! Thanks 😊

[@zauwee]

Good job on this demo, man. I know it’s hard to compare apples to apples since apples differ quite a lot amongst themselves. That is, even though these modules perform the function and may possibly sound very similar, finding the right settings for a fair comparison can be very daunting. Anyway, I’ve had the Fumana for a few years now. Never thought I’d buy another spectrum processor. I just bought the Sputnik because of this video. More specifically, because of the sounds starting on min 13:00, which are very close to sounds in Paddy Free’s Lali, kzbin.info/www/bejne/p3SmhaJ8jpyBl7csi=fVlEnPvnFZPP1PmR one of my favorite songs ever. Obsession.

[@jazzbeats8168]

oh my this will be interesting

[@posthumouspriest]

The Verbos Bark wins!

[@el_dani]

oh my god, I already thought: it's difficult to choose an complex oscillator, but this is much harder to choose..

[@Stazma]

Just know these are all VERY good modules

[@mamakuproject]

Had both fumana and bark thinking I would quickly find out which one would stay- took me 2 yrs to finally only keep the fumana! Quite impressed with Sputnik and TTA here too! 🤯

[@jazzbeats8168]

Great review .. apparently moog just came out with their spectral processor 😂 round 2?

[@Stazma]

I have a Moog style filter bank video in the work so maybe !

[@synthemodulaire]

Bon bah maintenant il manque le Moog Spectravox dans ta review ! ^^

[@Ekkomouse]

I was hoping the flame curves would have been included

[@Stazma]

I also have it on loan but decided not to include it here as it does it does not have that same DNA: it’s more a Moog inspired unit with an additional sequencer (like the MURF). I will make a video about these soon too ;-)

[@el_dani]

This video: 1 day of fame, then came Spectravox 😅

[@markseagraves5486]

So obviously we’ll need at least one of each…

[@Stazma]

At least hahahaha.

[@justanotheryoutubechannel3102]

am up to the part where you're talking about feeding a sawtooth into everything and I am GIDDY with excitement. early on, it's sounding like the sputnik resonates harder than the other units, but that could just have been it having different variables. hopefully these all get treated the same even though they all have different frequency bands. the verbos seems to be the one to get if you're looking for bold hairy tones. let's see, I mean HEAR. as of right now, sputnik and fumana are MY favorites. I expect fumana to own bass sounds as it has the lowest bands there and more of them. OH yeah! in the very first demo, the fumana is definitely warmer sounding. much warmer. sputnik's sharper resonances are a nice contrast. switching to it in the CV section turned the pulse into instant pink floyd. they're ALL good having distinct voices. the buchla is very organic sounding... a bit rounder and more polite, but more airy AWESOME demo! great variety of techniques and this video CLEARLY shows off each unit's personality. The sputnik sounds like an old russian tube vocoder... very ugly and different, but in a good way. I'm a big vocoder fan... more square wave than saw loving maybe though. buchla wins the vocoder SQ contest. fumana has less robot personality. I'm really liking the buchla now that I've seen it head to head. i went back... it's the juicy resonances in the 296t. Mr Buchla knew what he was doing. I'm liking the sputnik a bit less now because of just how JUICY the 296t is. 296t for the highs, and fumana for the bass thumbs up #182

[@Stazma]

Thanks for that detailed comment ;-)

[@banksideleopards2791]

Il manque le Panharmonium de chez Rossum, cela aurait été interessant de voir les differences

[@Stazma]

Quand même très différent de ces quatre modules basés sur la même architecture.

[@milan-murratti]

J'ai aussi le Panharmonium , mais ce module fonctionne complètement différemment, il a 33 oscillateurs numériques et reproduit le son de n'importe quelle source audio. On ne peut pas le comparer à ces modules.

[@Stazma]

@@milan-murratti oui c’est ce qu’il me semblait. En vrai c’est presque le même concept de base mais pousser à l’extrême (proche de ce que fait le Spectraphon de Make Noise).

[@delseproject]

mince, vous êtes passé à l'anglais...

[@Stazma]

En fait je fait 90% des vidéos en anglais et de temps en temps je n Français.

[@delseproject]

@@Stazma ha ok désolé, je vous ai découvert il y a peu. J’aime beaucoup vos vieeos

[@Stazma]

@@delseproject pas de problème ;-)

[@mastermachetier5594]

You forgot to answer one important question! Which one would you buy if you could only have one haha

[@Stazma]

I’m happy with the 296t but it’s probably because it’s the one I’m used to since I have it since quite a while. It’s the only one I’ll keep as I already sold the Sputnik (that I bought just for the video hahaha) and the FUMANA and Bark are going back to Frap Tools and Verbos soon ;-)

[@mastermachetier5594]

​@@Stazma its funny but I really like the sound of the 296t. There is something about the bite that it has that resonates with me even though its not the most featured.... but ya preamp please !!!