A LES PAUL sounds different from a STRAT, Right?

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@SpectreSoundStudios
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@szymonk7621
@szymonk7621 Жыл бұрын
done :)
@Bigfoot-px9gj
@Bigfoot-px9gj Жыл бұрын
Hmmm... I guess click-bait doesn't always work, eh?
@60degreelobwedge82
@60degreelobwedge82 Жыл бұрын
Here is a test idea: the expensive guitars through the high end guitar rig vs the Harley Benton through a basic but decent sounding rig worth a quarter the price. I don't think the differences will be as big as the tone snobs think it would be.
@erikceman5354
@erikceman5354 Жыл бұрын
DONE
@Wob-O
@Wob-O Жыл бұрын
Line 6 Spider with upgraded speakers.
@satansoffspring49
@satansoffspring49 Жыл бұрын
Guitar A is definitely a guitar Guitar B might be a guitar as well Guitar C is probably a guitar Guitar D is two basses in a trench coat.
@SpectreSoundStudios
@SpectreSoundStudios Жыл бұрын
Lmao!
@lou.yorke.x
@lou.yorke.x Жыл бұрын
LOLs
@steevidrums
@steevidrums Жыл бұрын
Two basses in a trench coat 😂😂😂
@jonathangossett7
@jonathangossett7 Жыл бұрын
I think this wins the Best Comment on the Video Award.
@erlikquadros5873
@erlikquadros5873 Жыл бұрын
How two basses in a trench coat are the seme height as a guitar?
@sonicsega1699
@sonicsega1699 Жыл бұрын
how am i supposed to hear the difference if i can't see it?
@guitar_gnome
@guitar_gnome Жыл бұрын
You can't. Your eyes are connected to your ears. If you were blind they'd sound like pianos. /sarcasm. Here's the extra weird thing: I can hear the differences in the clean tones. I can't tell you which guitars they are. My brain thinks they are played in the same order that Glen showed us which guitars will be used (Gibson, Strat, EMGs, Harley). Because Glen would be like "I'm not even going to change the order and they'll still get it wrong." Or Glen's like "the only reason you think they're in order is that's the last visual you saw." And both might be true. (I can't tell which guitar is the Strat or the LP. Or the other two. They just sound different. Probably lost in a mix anyway, even a clean mix).
@bmannned
@bmannned Жыл бұрын
@@guitar_gnome What's interesting is earlier there was a post about Glenn's video "Pickup Manufacturers DON'T want you to see this!!". Glenn plays clean in that video and there's a large variation in tone. Glenn commented on how different they sounded clean. So how can these be suddenly so similar, something has shifted? I uploaded a video today comparing two Humbuckers clean and there was a huge difference. The Gibson pickup was dark and the Bare Knuckle bright and for lack of a better term "airy" which has way better note separation. My results were closer to Glenn's previous video. Unless this is a trick? I don't know.
@talaniel
@talaniel Жыл бұрын
@@bmannned I think there are other factors in play too - strings, actual position of the pickup (distance from the strings), and I guess different pickups should sound a bit differently for sure. In this video, there is some difference, but still, for me, not possible to say which is the 40K guitar and which is the cheapest one. I think I liked A and B more than C and D. They had too much low-end for my taste in the first clip. In the second clip, the difference is less noticeable.
@bmannned
@bmannned Жыл бұрын
@talaniel I did check the distance of the pickups to the string to take out that variable in my comparison. The Gibson pickup is a little higher output. Gibson pickups in general tend be darker though. I'm not saying there's a 40k difference. Obviously there are diminishing returns with guitar gear. Gibson Les Paul guitars take a lot of work to build though. I'm not sure how well they are doing financially, either. To be fair, I'd rather pay more and support any builder or company over a company coming out of China. There are many reasons for that personally.
@thetej1098
@thetej1098 Жыл бұрын
nobody in your replies got the joke smh
@asherplatts6253
@asherplatts6253 Жыл бұрын
Glenn is getting a lot more confident and calm in his delivery and is yelling less. It's a more refined flavor
@bradleyspinks7922
@bradleyspinks7922 Жыл бұрын
BANG AND THE DIRT IS GONE!
@michaeljensen1625
@michaeljensen1625 Жыл бұрын
I much prefer it when he yells less. It's less gimmicky.
@JBCavern
@JBCavern Жыл бұрын
The yelling is kinda fun! 😁
@DaveDexterMusic
@DaveDexterMusic Жыл бұрын
he's doing controlled shithouse yelling
@markde9904
@markde9904 Жыл бұрын
Maybe he's medicated now?
@ospifi
@ospifi Жыл бұрын
A = Fender, clearly the bolt on urethane gloss sound B = Harley Benton, neck dive glitter sound C = Gibson, clear nitro and indian rosewood sound D = PRS, the reclining dental chair sound
@jonathangossett7
@jonathangossett7 Жыл бұрын
hahahaha
@theSmolniy
@theSmolniy Жыл бұрын
Strat is B
@sungodpaprika
@sungodpaprika Жыл бұрын
My guess was the same but changing B and D. But hey.. I was listening to it thru my phone speakers so who tf knows 🤣 (yeah, sue me.. my headphones are broken and I'm waiting for the replacement)
@x4thmessiahx
@x4thmessiahx Жыл бұрын
Wouldn't it be funny if they were all the Harley Benton and the video was just a troll?
@JamesBond-ol3bv
@JamesBond-ol3bv Жыл бұрын
I gave an honest try and picked this order. But your reasons are so much better.
@Sphynx76
@Sphynx76 Жыл бұрын
Reminds me of the time I recorded a surf rock track, and got compliments for the great “Fender tone” in both the lead and backing track. Well, I was using my Epiphone Les Paul for both.
@Brian_Vallejo
@Brian_Vallejo Жыл бұрын
Can you post the track for us to hear?
@lippi2171
@lippi2171 Жыл бұрын
I once got shut down for saying that I can get "Fender-like" tones out of my Epiphone LP. I was a beginner so I just followed my ears. 10 years later I feel vindicated by this video haha. Music has soo many myths, legends and just overall unproven BS
@danielatherton1631
@danielatherton1631 Жыл бұрын
Your comment reminds me of the interview with Jimmy Page when he's asked how he got the tone on the Stairway intro from a LP and he says 'Well firstly, what I did was, and this is the important bit...I used a tele.'
@crypticreality8484
@crypticreality8484 4 ай бұрын
😂
@HeathanzSinzBand
@HeathanzSinzBand Жыл бұрын
I am very grateful for these kinds of videos and all of the tips and tricks you have posted over the years. I have learned so much and I listen to my first album compared to the one we just released and it's a night and day difference. I still have a long way to go to get that pro sound, but I am getting there. Thanks so much!
@PiotrthePhrog
@PiotrthePhrog Жыл бұрын
please keep us posted
@punkguyispunk
@punkguyispunk Жыл бұрын
I've lost countless hours seeking the fantastic tone in my head and i went deep in some rabbit holes that i should never have gone into. I was suspicious about some bs that have been fed me since i started playing but did not have the means to test it. Your work is extremely valuable, specially for guys like me that live in third world countries where a cheap squier costs at least 3 months of minimum wage salary. We do not have that crazy amount of money to spend on special tubes and pickups
@SpectreSoundStudios
@SpectreSoundStudios Жыл бұрын
Find some affordable great speakers. You’ll be much happier. I recommend Mojotone BV25m
@andyglamrock
@andyglamrock Жыл бұрын
I can relate, where are you from? A Squier Jazzmaster can go for a thousand bucks here in Buenos Aires Argentina
@toneelectronix
@toneelectronix Жыл бұрын
That's the point! Exactly!
@pyroman6000
@pyroman6000 Жыл бұрын
Same here... I'm ashamed to admit how much $$ I blew on pedals, amps, etc in a vain search for "That" tone. Turns out all I had to do was learn to play better, and turn the damn master volume up... Yep, "That" sound, is simply the sound of natural compression from a cooking power amp. You then use picking dynamics and the guitar's volume pot to control how loud you are. Even an all digital modeller can do it, if you take the time to learn how to use it properly. Maybe the guys from way back without all the cool toys we have knew a thing or two...
@wylmtfi
@wylmtfi Жыл бұрын
A FENDER B PRS C GIBSON D HB But again I might be wrong, idk
@SuperKazmierski
@SuperKazmierski Жыл бұрын
I love your work. I just heard lovely guitars being played. I can't tell the difference. The most important detail about a guitar is "can you afford it" the second is "does it make you play more often"
@erwinc.9117
@erwinc.9117 Жыл бұрын
I'm not really a tone snob so I have no idea which is which, however I can say that they are noticeably different from each other when compared like that. In a mix it could be a lot less noticeable, but also a certain one may somehow be terrible for a certain mix, who knows. The bottom line is that all four sounds fine and you can't really go wrong with any.
@Bigfoot-px9gj
@Bigfoot-px9gj Жыл бұрын
A tone snob? That's a new one. It fits a friend of mine like a glove. :) He told me he hated the sound of Fender guitars, because he doesn't like "twangy pickups." Yet when I asked him if he liked David Gilmore he said yes. When I said he recorded all the Pink Floyd albums he said he liked were recorded using Gilmour's famous "Black Strat", he was like "Really? I didn't know that." I wonder if he knew that guitar sold for $3,975,000 at an auction in 2019?
@cincypiper
@cincypiper Жыл бұрын
Your work is righteous. Nobody likes the truth teller, except the humble.
@davidepannone6021
@davidepannone6021 Жыл бұрын
Or intelligent people that can admit when they're wrong about something.
@line6peavey
@line6peavey Жыл бұрын
You just called yourself humble. Humble people don't call themselves humble.
@allanallan4791
@allanallan4791 Жыл бұрын
​@@line6peaveythats very humbling
@cincypiper
@cincypiper Жыл бұрын
@@line6peavey dude you are right. Ugh. That's humiliatingly bad form on my part.
@jasujokelainen5073
@jasujokelainen5073 Жыл бұрын
​@@allanallan4791😂😂😂
@stevekruger7807
@stevekruger7807 Жыл бұрын
Just wanted to add, these "tone A vs. tone B" comparison experiments saved me a ton of time while I was on the market to replace an amp. Walking through the store looking for an ax to try against the amp I had Glenn's voice in my head "None are gonna change the tone, just pick one" Great work, very informative, I appreciate it!
@slayabouts
@slayabouts Жыл бұрын
There are some minute differences, but probably nothing that couldn't be replicated with an EQ pedal or plugin before the amp sim. Where the pickups are located between the bridge and the nut does make somewhat of a difference, so maybe that has something to do with any differences
@michaeldmytriw1047
@michaeldmytriw1047 Жыл бұрын
They were all so close. I think my preference was B, but I agree with you that in a mix with even just a bass and drums, I wouldn’t hear the difference
@JBertoMS
@JBertoMS Жыл бұрын
There seems to be some consensus on that "Guitar B" is different to the rest. I would love to know what guitar is that!
@firstdreamwalker
@firstdreamwalker Жыл бұрын
The Strat! It has to do do with the scale length..
@tyob1
@tyob1 Жыл бұрын
@@firstdreamwalker I guessed the same, I could be wrong, but I thought B was the Strat. That extra 3/4'' scale length may make the difference. Either way, B sounded best to me.
@60degreelobwedge82
@60degreelobwedge82 Жыл бұрын
They are all close enough that it would be impossible to pick out the differences in the mix and impossible to justify the purchase of a high end guitar just for the sake of better tone.
@joshmastiff1128
@joshmastiff1128 Жыл бұрын
The difference did go away with very little gain. But it did sound what you would call brighter with the cleans. However it was miniscule so...
@steevidrums
@steevidrums Жыл бұрын
Being a drummer and not blessed with the fine tuned ears of my guitarist contemporaries, this year or so long debate about pick ups, tone woods, speakers, tubes etc. has been a lot of fun to watch from the sidelines. Brilliant stuff Glenn.
@ababab28
@ababab28 Жыл бұрын
I've known plenty of drummers who had "genuine animal hide from africa" drum heads, etc etc etc
@LuLeBe
@LuLeBe 7 күн бұрын
​@@ababab28yeah you can go too far with heads. I like heads that last and are easy to tune. And of course especially on a snare there are quite noticeable differences with how ringy/dead they are. But so far picking just standard heads served me well. That's like guitar strings. Subtle differences, but nothing you cant EQ away. And just like guitar strings, a lot of the difference is in how they feel to play and not the tone.
@Loki_Morningstar666
@Loki_Morningstar666 Жыл бұрын
I think they all sounded pretty good and really close. For the clean tone there was something about guitar C that caught me ear but I can't quite put my finger on it. There was just something about it I liked. Overall I think your amp plays the biggest role in your tone followed by the pickups. Once you add gain pretty much all guitars sound good.
@gregorylay3333
@gregorylay3333 Жыл бұрын
I also noticed a slight difference for guitar C with the clear tones on the low notes. But it may have to do with a slight variation in the playing or tuning and have nothing to do with the pickups.
@AlexGamela
@AlexGamela Жыл бұрын
can you show the eq curves on the disclosure video to see where they differ and how much? they all sound great to me, keep up the fun work.
@alrecks619
@alrecks619 Жыл бұрын
i think he'll make that for the subsequent reveal video.
@robbirose7032
@robbirose7032 Жыл бұрын
Could you do one on cheap vs. expensive pots? This seems to be a holdout for some tone snobs.
@mrcoatsworth429
@mrcoatsworth429 Жыл бұрын
Don't know how the price of the pots changes the sound (my guess is not at all), but the pots overall definitely do to some degree. Depending on the value, they take out more or less high frequencies out. This is only anecdotal, but I had to replace all pots and switches in my guitar. Since I had to wait a while for the new ones to ship, I wired the bridge pickup straight to the output jack. The guitar had a lot more high end this way. I wish I had recorded a before and after.
@billnicholson3173
@billnicholson3173 Жыл бұрын
Usually the difference is in THC content ;)
@joekugler1333
@joekugler1333 Жыл бұрын
I've seen a couple videos on this - and not sure about the cost, but the values and the wiring does seem to matter. The ones I have looked at, the better wired and well chosen pots made the clarity better, especially chords. Again, I am not sure if it's a cost thing versus a knowledgable design thing. I wish I knew more about how electronics all worked, but I got an art degree. :P
@birdsteak9267
@birdsteak9267 Жыл бұрын
Cheap knobs, construction wise use short-cuts, to bring down the cost and it is the same with pickups as well, lot of short-cut decisions. I am not saying expensive pickups are better than mid-range, but there is obviously a difference between what "should be" and what got cut out to make cheap ones, due to frequencies. So to get any upgrades up to a minimum expected standard should bring an overall improvment. I had shitty pickups, always some noise with them, it wasn't the grounding, got new ones and boom, clear and beautiful.
@HiYouTubeImDad
@HiYouTubeImDad Жыл бұрын
The guitarist in my last band was huge on designer pot, and let me tell you, it didn't help his guitar playing one bit. Oh wait, I don't think that's what you meant here.
@scottv4186
@scottv4186 Жыл бұрын
I built a guitar that you could swap pickups out in (by pulling off the back and swapping out pickup "cartridges". The thing that really struck me was how *not* different pickups are from each other in reality. There are differents (like how they relate to pedals and stuff. But I was amazed at how similar they were once you actually used all things the same.
@mikehurley5052
@mikehurley5052 Жыл бұрын
On the cleans, A and C sounded thicker/warmer, B and D sounded a bit thin/tinny. Second test was very close, no idea what guitar was what but thats the point of this test i guess, great stuff, i hope the HB wins.
@tommj4365
@tommj4365 Жыл бұрын
Weird I thought B and D sounded notably dull...
@crypticreality8484
@crypticreality8484 4 ай бұрын
​@@tommj4365those were the Strat and Les Paul. 😂
@karolszymanski4791
@karolszymanski4791 Жыл бұрын
I was a brainwashed tone snob. It changed when I discovered this channel. I tried some of those recording tests and my jaw dropped. Thank you for your amazing work!
@juanmacall3256
@juanmacall3256 Жыл бұрын
Same here. I do like nice looking guitars tho and to own amp sims and IRs :p
@DrGand
@DrGand Жыл бұрын
I'm still a tone snob. But now I collect cabs lol
@benpotter4905
@benpotter4905 Жыл бұрын
I was a tone snob. Now I just slowed the buying down. I'm still going to buy a couple Gibson Les Pauls though. Definitely a good idea for my grandkids some day even if they don't play, value could just go up.
@alrecks619
@alrecks619 Жыл бұрын
you would be collecting pre 2003s Mesa Cab and Marshalls with Pulsonic Greenbacks if you are truly a tone snob.
@SeeSawMassacre
@SeeSawMassacre Жыл бұрын
I care about how my instrument sounds, but i'm not a "tone snob". I can tell the difference, like anyone who cares to listen, between different types of picks and different tubes and different pickups. Add up all the little improvements, and you get a big improvement. If people want to insult musicians who care about their tone, and call them tone snobs, it's fine with me. The rest of us will end up sounding a good bit better and it'll keep the price of gear down. :)
@dmimcg
@dmimcg Жыл бұрын
I just bought a guitar and learned my first chord. Good stuff bro. It's never too late to shred. I'm 65.
@LarsNorlander
@LarsNorlander Жыл бұрын
I think it was definitely a lesson learned extremely quickly for me when I tried recording my guitars. The differences were barely there, and the few that were there completely disappear when I brought it into a mix. ...Of course, it doesn't stop my caveman brain from buying more guitars that I find pretty.
@matthewfritz
@matthewfritz Жыл бұрын
I don't think there's anything wrong with that. Hell, my reason for acquiring as many as I've gotten over the years has been "because I like them" and that's pretty much it. The tonal differences are incredibly minimal when solo-ed and they go away entirely in the context of a mix when there is so much other sonic information present too.
@grandarchon6969
@grandarchon6969 Жыл бұрын
Well, you need one in standard, one in e flat, one in d standard, one in drop d, one in drop C#... One in C, one in B, one in drop A.... And then you need 7 strings too. Oh and a Nashville tuning. That's what I tell my wife anyway.
@astarothgr
@astarothgr Жыл бұрын
Accept your beautiful caveman self as he truly is, embrace your cavemanness and the path of happiness will open up. Source: I've got six guitars of various specs and string numbers, can't play shit to save my life, but they look cool!
@leoncorbett4553
@leoncorbett4553 Жыл бұрын
@@grandarchon6969also drop d Nashville version
@guitar_gnome
@guitar_gnome Жыл бұрын
My caveman brain only lets me bond with guitars that are warm colors (reds, browns, or natural wood). I love the look of blue and green guitars, but have a hard time "feeling it". Because color affects tone. /sarcasm. It's weird how the brain works.
@Ray-Angel
@Ray-Angel Жыл бұрын
I've been a fan of HSS guitars since they first came out. Absolutely the most versatile guitar option IMHO. I'm not into modern metal tones but for blues and classic rock, I can get close to AC/DC and ZZ Top as well as Hendrix and SRV. The Swiss Army knife of guitars.
@HUGEHARDTHICKANDVEINY
@HUGEHARDTHICKANDVEINY Жыл бұрын
One trick I figured out years ago is to wire the humbucker to a push/pull pot to have it change the pickup from series to parallel rather than a coil tap. Lowers the output so it balances nicer with the single coils. The tone doesn't change much (I think it just changes the output) and you don't lose hum cancelling.
@birdsteak9267
@birdsteak9267 Жыл бұрын
Can get quite decent tones with split-coils as well, and you don't lose out on the humbuckers, the only thing i'd miss is the center single-coil and all the switch-options.
@Ray-Angel
@Ray-Angel Жыл бұрын
@@birdsteak9267 that's the cool thing about the Fender Double Tap. You can split it but it'll keep the volume level. I had one for a while. My current Strat has a Shawbucker so the split doesn't work as well. But I like it better than a single coil at the bridge.
@birdsteak9267
@birdsteak9267 Жыл бұрын
@@Ray-Angel Can always try to figure out the "Greenie" configuration! Owning several guitars, not a million one but one for each purpose and noted Amp-configurations can give you an option in genres even fusion.
@Ray-Angel
@Ray-Angel Жыл бұрын
@@birdsteak9267 you mean turn the magnet around? Sure why not if that's your jam. But I'm a minimalist. I like getting the most from one guitar. Although I'm thinking hard about getting a tele with a humbucker at the neck for a Keith Richards vibe.
@thatcherulrich2105
@thatcherulrich2105 Жыл бұрын
B and/or D sounded most strat-like to me, but they all do sound really similar. Curious to see the results.
@blackdogleg
@blackdogleg Жыл бұрын
I thought the same...
@DbiPro
@DbiPro 11 ай бұрын
C is the strat
@crypticreality8484
@crypticreality8484 4 ай бұрын
B was the Strat
@lilirune
@lilirune Жыл бұрын
I love these tests so much because ultimately they show me I can just play the guitar I like the feel of rather than shelling out thousands of dollars to get the guitar with the right headstock logo.
@PainkillerX12
@PainkillerX12 Жыл бұрын
I'm impressed with how little difference there are even in the "edge of breakup" configuration, It was more pronounced in the clean segment but by skipping myself, I couldn't help but noticed how similar A and C sounded, same for B and D ! The only difference I ever really noticed in a "pickup A vs pickup B" comparison in a high gain context was Ola Englund's "10 guitars 1 amp" series where the SH4 clones (thrash factor and BK warpig) had a mid bump in a different place which makes them chuggier than the others (which sounded very similar, even the bullet SSS strat he threw in) but because we're talking about a specific frequency, I could just make my EMG 57 sound like a SH4 by throwing my MXR 10 band EQ just after the guitar... In fact, I could emulate any pickup just with this 130€ EQ pedal, no need to pay Seymour Duncan's inflated prices of 150€ per pickup !
@ianmusicstein
@ianmusicstein Жыл бұрын
Could hear a difference on the clean tones, not so sure I heard a difference on the breakup sound. As for which guitar is which, Not a clue. Love these tests. I did one of my own tests recently, which I will actually upload for a bit of fun soon. Keep these tests coming :)
@lukastorstensson8219
@lukastorstensson8219 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic! I hear slight differences in overtones when they are clean but can't point out which is which. On edge breakup I reckon it's impossible to tell any differences. Ah well, plugged into a HM-2 with all the knobs on max I'd go for the Harley Benton anyway as I can afford a whole lot more guitars in different colours and that's what counts right? :D
@lukastorstensson8219
@lukastorstensson8219 Жыл бұрын
And to that, added in a context of a full mix, the magical unicorns-and-rainbows tone is EQ'ed to something completely different compared to what's recorded/percieved from the beginning anyway so why not instead aim for a tone that sits well in a mix to avoid heavy processing as much as possible? And that goes for both live and studio situations! Been playing in a bunch of bands in different genres thruout the years (I'm even older than Glenn!) and I remember in one particular band the lead guitarist sounded like shit when he was playing alone, but with the whole band going he sounded really really great as he sat well in the mix! Something for the tone talibans to think about, maybe? ;)
@LordBaktor
@LordBaktor Жыл бұрын
@@lukastorstensson8219I'm blessed with having a recording geek in my band, so we've been discussing a lot about that over the years. What matters (for all instruments) is how it sits in the mix, not how it sounds isolated. I hate the sound of my isolated toms, but the fills cut through in the mix and sound cohesive with the rest of the drums so I'm happy.
@vampille
@vampille Жыл бұрын
All of them sounded totally usable. So when it comes to recording, as long as they're all playable, they'd do fine. Some folks may decide that a certain guitar feels better to play and you're never going to convince them otherwise in that case, but when it comes to the all elusive tone all four of these guitars hit the mark. Find a guitar that stays in tune, has functioning electronics, and feels good to play and any decent recording engineer can get it sound good as long as you know how to play your parts when the red light goes on.
@GoranPantic
@GoranPantic Жыл бұрын
I was listening through a few pairs of speakers and headphones and the differences were quite noticeable between all of those speakers :D But, when it comes to differences between guitar sounds, I would say it's anyone's guess. In a mix they would be completely indistinguishable, but let's try and GUESS which might be which: Guitar A: Les Paul - It sounds like it has a bit lower output and sounds a bit clearer than the others so it kinda fits into the imaginary P.A.F. category in my head Guitar B: Harley Benton - Has pronounced mids and not as balanced as some of the others Guitar C: PRS - Has pronounced bass frequencies and more output than others so I guess it might be due to its active pickup Guitar D: Fender - Also has pronounced mids but it's more balanced than Guitar B. Sounds akin to some Fender humbuckers which I've heard
@Abe_Williamson
@Abe_Williamson 10 ай бұрын
That was my guess too
@ALaz502
@ALaz502 Жыл бұрын
Guitar 2 definitely sounded different than the others in the clean tone test. Better? Worse? Couldnt tell you because that would be impossible. With edge of breakup sound, impossible altogether to tell apart. Fascinating.
@JBertoMS
@JBertoMS Жыл бұрын
Totally! For my taste, "guitar B" is clearly "the winner". Among the others the differences are very subtle, but definitely, the B is different (and for my taste, the one that sounds the best)
@SecretWeapon62578
@SecretWeapon62578 Жыл бұрын
Interesting. I initially thought Guitar C might be the one with EMG's, because it seemed louder than the two before it. In the edge of breakup clips, I thought Guitar B seemed to be reaching sustain-y compression more easily than the others. That could mean EMG's, or just some other pickup that compresses and sustains easily for whatever reason.
@PavelKravchenko666
@PavelKravchenko666 Жыл бұрын
or it might be just the ffretwork, like how well polished the frets are, and hom much width/height they have, since doing bends is much easier on a bigger frets@@SecretWeapon62578
@mattguitarwilson
@mattguitarwilson Жыл бұрын
I preferred the sound of B easily over the other 3.
@mattguitarwilson
@mattguitarwilson Жыл бұрын
@@JBertoMSI completely agree.
@GabrielNacu
@GabrielNacu Жыл бұрын
I can confirm A, B, C and D are all indeed guitars!
@CellarStudioProductions
@CellarStudioProductions Жыл бұрын
Our decisions in these blind tests are often based on our cultural perception of these guitars. At least it feels that way to me. In my mind it comes down to what I have heard others play on the instrument and perhaps what I feel inspired to play when I pick them up. Due to their different ergonomics these types of guitars lend themselves to different techniques. When I try to pick out different kinds of guitars playing the same lines I find myself assigning the sound samples to the guitar that *feels* like the sample sounds. And apparently there is a disconnect between these, that I was not immediately aware of. My guesses: A - PRS B - Les Paul C - Harley Benton D - Strat Looking forward to finding out that I got them all wrong.
@kennethc2466
@kennethc2466 Жыл бұрын
"Our decisions in these blind tests are often based on our cultural perception of these guitars." Or, maybe, it's because it's the same mike, same speaker, same daw, EQ'ing each differently, and being 'mastered' at 128kbps, MP3. Add that to people listening on their phone, in the toilet, and PRESTO!, even a semi sane person would believe this utter tripe and demonstrable lie. Funny how Glenn said the only tone in a guitar is the pickups, yet now says all picks and guitars sound the same. That's 1984 levels of double think.
@axemanfishing2703
@axemanfishing2703 Жыл бұрын
PS, thanks to you Glenn, I went and ordered a Harley Benton guitar. My first one ever, from them. Its a classic flying V. I cant believe it, neck through body construction, sustain nicely, SUPER nice player guitar and stays in tune. Had issues with the pots, not turning off completely, like a short, but was in the pot itself. Installed Bourns pots with classic alnico epiphone pups. SOUNDS WICKED. Its for a Tribute to UFO and MSG I am involved in. Looks the part and cheap cheap cheap. Better than spending $1000 on an Epiphone. Around $300 to the door with a soft case. Thanks Glenn
@HandlebarWorkshops
@HandlebarWorkshops Жыл бұрын
Adding timestamps for my own benefit to jump around and compare, but hopefully it helps others: 6:10 - Clean A 6:23 - Clean B 6:37 - Clean C 6:54 - Clean D 7:27 - Breakup A 7:36 - Breakup B 7:45 - Breakup C 7:54 - Breakup D Edited to add: After many of these types of tests, I know my ears aren't as good as others, but I heard a distinct difference with Guitar C in the cleans. I don't WHICH guitar it is, only that there is a slight difference. More full? More lush? Not sure if those words mean anything... On the breakup tests, I didn't hear any difference.
@franciscor.1325
@franciscor.1325 Жыл бұрын
Commented the same just a minute ago, before reading this. At least someone else has ears like mine.
@soundman1402
@soundman1402 Жыл бұрын
Main thing I noticed about clean Guitar C was that it was louder overall.
@DizzySaxophone
@DizzySaxophone Жыл бұрын
In the clean test I thought they all sounded a bit different. No idea what was what though. Could also just be the slight differences in performance. The edge of breakup I couldn't hear much of a difference.
@HandlebarWorkshops
@HandlebarWorkshops Жыл бұрын
@@DizzySaxophone With the clean samples, I thought they all sounded slightly different until I was able to jump around and compare them to each other. Using my timestamps, listen to only the first few seconds of A - B, A - D, B - D. If you listen to the whole of each sample, it gets difficult to remember what they sound like.
@reactiverbossnetwork7619
@reactiverbossnetwork7619 5 ай бұрын
The differences in tone most likely just come down to how close the pickups are placed to the bridge, but it’s so minor that even with knowing that that can be a factor, there really is no way to know which is which. I’m honestly lucky that I found someone who actively tests these guitars cause it’s really opened my eyes to how I can spend my money conservatively and still get a comparable sound to the high end guitars. Thank you Glenn
@tambow44
@tambow44 Жыл бұрын
I've no skin in this game, just wanted to say they all sounded great. A testament to Glenn and Christian's abilities.
@MichaelSheaAudio
@MichaelSheaAudio Жыл бұрын
While there were some noticeable differences, I couldn't even pretend to know which guitar is which. I might have guessed that guitar C was the Les Paul because it sounded kinda woofy, but it wasn't out of tune, so I don't know. 😂 Edit: I also want to reinforce the idea that we're listening to soloed guitars in a controlled environment. This is not how people will hear these guitars in a recorded or live setting. No one will know or care what guitar you're using.
@squelch84
@squelch84 Жыл бұрын
Just as Glenn posted this, we were having this EXACT conversation at work and the point that the audience doesn't care was mentioned and spot on.
@MichaelSheaAudio
@MichaelSheaAudio Жыл бұрын
@@squelch84 Exactly. We're the musicians and we don't even know. In a recording, the guitar is going to be processed and EQ'd and mixed in with other instruments, so these little changes won't matter, and in a live setting, it can be so loud that we can barely hear your great guitar tone anyways. After the tests from Glenn, others, and myself, I don't really care what pickup is in my guitar. I put together a single humbucker Fender Strat (left handed, no Tom Delonges for lefties), and I put a $30 high output Wilkinson humbucker in it. It sounds and plays great. XD
@Bob-of-Zoid
@Bob-of-Zoid Жыл бұрын
Well I totally agree that all but a few fools, who payed way too much for bragging rights by brand name for their gear in your audience, will give a hoot what all you're using, and most of the rest never gave nuances any thought at all to begin with, but this was about sounding different by pickup/guitar type, so to keep the rest of what they are played through and where, puts them on more equal ground for the experiments sake. Having toured the world for 6+ years, it's rooms you will have way more time invested in dealing with, and tone may be the least of your problems. Places built for sound are OK, but many sports arenas and other venues were not built with good acoustics in mind to begin with, and can have some serious issues to get around. Thankfully for me that was the sound companies responsibility!
@doom8367
@doom8367 Жыл бұрын
any difference you're hearing is definitely in volume because some pickups have higher output than others
@MichaelSheaAudio
@MichaelSheaAudio Жыл бұрын
@@doom8367 If Glenn did as he usually does, then he level matched them at least post-amp so they're all the same volume on our end, but you're correct, a higher output pickup will cause the amp to react differently. I listened on my phone when I woke up this morning, I could go back and listen on my monitors. Edit: Listening now on my monitors, the differences are less noticeable. Like I have to jump from one to the next and I'm just hearing small differences, like the first guitar sounds like the pickup is much higher output than the second. I think that second guitar has the lowest output pickup so it could be the Les Paul.
@pochron1105
@pochron1105 11 ай бұрын
Great point. That's a difference that could be easily fixed in the post, at least in most cases. I would expect Strat to have a faster attack when driven very hard for djent and chugging of all sorts due to the boxy pickup compartment - would've been nice to hear that in the experiment too. Also one could raise a question whether HSS strat is a strat? But I'll leave this one up to whoever reads this. 😉
@waynejones872
@waynejones872 Жыл бұрын
Very subtle differences but good tones all around especially the edge of breakup. I’m someone who would blend my favorites of the four for double tracking or sometimes quad tracking.
@piranhamusic1331
@piranhamusic1331 Жыл бұрын
I can't tell which is which but there are some tonal differences for sure. What's most important though and can only be understood by oneself is how the pickup makes you feel while playing the guitar. Even if it's just a placebo, if it gives you that little more confidence in your playing then it's probably worth it.
@petrklepetko2971
@petrklepetko2971 Жыл бұрын
So it is about what the guitar looks like then?
@Blacksoul444
@Blacksoul444 Жыл бұрын
So YOU are one of those people that spend several grand on a guitar just because it makes them feel better.
@piranhamusic1331
@piranhamusic1331 Жыл бұрын
@@Blacksoul444 I am playing a Sire & Harley Benton right now, so no, I don't spend thousands. But if you can afford it and makes you feel good, then yes I get it.
@Roylovesguitars
@Roylovesguitars 9 ай бұрын
Dude i love your channel so much. I have been screaming for years to people that most of what they think matters doesn't. Your channel has been great for showing so many people that their gibson kes paul isnt ny better than my epiphone. And my hss strat is a great substitute for the lp
@Pikatrainer2
@Pikatrainer2 Жыл бұрын
Edge of breakup I heard a slight difference in B to the other 3 but it honestly could have been a slightly hotter pickup driving the amp slightly harder. Specifically B had slightly more saturation. In a mix you probably wouldn't be able to hear any difference at all. Since B is the only one I can say anything remotely about I'm going to say that's the strat, although my heart says it's actually the PRS because it reminds me of MusicIsWin and he uses a TON of PRS guitars. Really good video!
@niksonpavlikson
@niksonpavlikson Жыл бұрын
Same for me.
@seanbeavan2884
@seanbeavan2884 Жыл бұрын
Same for me. It makes me think that B is the Humbucker strat. There is a low bump that is lower than the other 3 guitars as well as a higher high end. I would also imagine that the SG style guitar is 3 because it has a low mid bark that i have always noticed when comparing SG’s to Les Pauls. The differences are subtle except for B. As soon as you introduce any distortion the differences melt away essentially. For differences in tone with distortion change cabinets and/or speakers or style of pickups (Single coil, or filtertronic or humbucker). The guitar itself makes very little difference like Glen says.
@boro5xl
@boro5xl Жыл бұрын
The 'B' guitar fits my preferences best, and that can easily make me think it's the LP... BUT I can't complain even a small bit about all the other tones - they all sound really great and very close.
@flashpadxxx
@flashpadxxx Жыл бұрын
I don't think B is the LP based on the first clean sound samples...that's where I hear the "most" difference of all the samples....b sounds the most thin..so ithink B is the strat or maybe the HB..but could be also a main difference in the output volume..
@giulioluzzardi7632
@giulioluzzardi7632 Жыл бұрын
Listen to the variations in the playing, he plays different on all 4.
@pyotrilyichtchaikovsky3733
@pyotrilyichtchaikovsky3733 Жыл бұрын
@@giulioluzzardi7632 Proves the point even more, if you cant hear the difference except far playing variety, than that means the pickup means even less because no matter how good you are its going to sound different everytime someone plays anything
@warwickdumas2573
@warwickdumas2573 Жыл бұрын
I also liked B the best, and C the least. I also agree with the person who said the guitarist did not reproduce the exact same signature 4 times. I have no idea which is which, I think D might be the strat. I think B might be the Harley Benton. I'd be surprised if these posh guitars sound as good as a mass market model.
@SeeSawMassacre
@SeeSawMassacre Жыл бұрын
@@pyotrilyichtchaikovsky3733 This is not how it works. Watch more videos comparing pickup types if you care. The difference is certainly significant and often has a big impact on the music. This test is rigged to be hard to decipher to prove his point. I just skimmed a bit of it, but i didn't hear what pickups he said he was using- so if he used a pair of pickups on a strat, it would sound a lot more like a humbucker.
@davehill9951
@davehill9951 Жыл бұрын
I am 67 now, i have a rack full of proccessing and the new Headrush prime pedalboard. You can pretty much take any guitar now and make it sound as you wish. I even own a Godin xtsa with the Roland gr55 synth floorboard which i can play grand piano etc.! Great video and love the parts guy snobs, keep em coming!
@nikolas_navarro
@nikolas_navarro Жыл бұрын
I personally prefer my clean tones recorded directly, rather than going through an amp. I see the value of changing pickups in this case, but I don't think it's a better value than just using good EQ. I do have a suggestion thoguh: shootout active pickups VS passive pickups VS passive pickups + a boost pedal.
@samuliauno8163
@samuliauno8163 Жыл бұрын
I'm interested in tonal effects of hitting the preamp colder or hotter as well. After gain/volume compensation of course. I've watched a few reamping tutorials on YT, but none of them really discuss gain-staging in reamping. There's a lot of talk how you can change the sound of your amp by using a boost pedal, but can't you just use more gain on your interface outputs instead? Does the pedal itself bring something in?
@TLKjoe
@TLKjoe Жыл бұрын
@@samuliauno8163 the short answer is no. JHS has a great video on preamp boost, you should seek it out.
@tomas_kucccera
@tomas_kucccera Жыл бұрын
Active pickups has the ability to be prevoiced internally, so I see the advantage to use them in 2 ways: 1) you can run very long cable (10m easily) without affecting the sound - HUGE difference to passives (capacity of cable change the impedance curve - detune the resonance frequency) 2) you don't need a TS or any boost pedal to tame the bass out, or boost the highs because of long cable. If you use modellers, just put a distortion pedal on. If you are purist and want guitar directly to the tube amp, EMGs or Fishmann's may have many advantages. But it's not about sounding better or worse, if the signal chain is set properly to run any type of pickup, it will sound great and the differences should be minimal after running thru an amp. In the end, the mids are important
@tomas_kucccera
@tomas_kucccera Жыл бұрын
@@samuliauno8163 That's exactly why I am recording guitar always directly to soundcard and use reamp box after the interface output to always match the levels. And you are right, you can just roll a fader in daw or turn the gain knob on the interface. The biggest issue I found is you have too much low end and have to use some high pass filter. That's the biggest difference. And generally the cleaner, the bigger the differences are, anyway they are quite small. The edge of brake sound is still lot bluesy and warm, I think the differences may shine more on something like Mesa MK series or Marshall plexi for example. Some amp which actually react on the pick attack more - there you can hear the differences even on distorted sound. But in many cases there is in the end very low difference. I want to do upgrade of the cheap Adrian Smith Jackson from stock pickup to actual SD JB. Really curious how it comes.
@Superman-pn1rx
@Superman-pn1rx Жыл бұрын
Well more than 90% of the music that all we love (and tone) probably was recorded from the amp.
@trueevilturtle
@trueevilturtle Жыл бұрын
I love these test videos you're doing Glenn. I think a signature pickup test would really make some people think before buying an expensive set of pickups just because they have and artists name attached to them.
@necrisro
@necrisro Жыл бұрын
Exactly, I got a Fender and only later got to try a friends Les Paul style guitar and lo and behold I find the Les Paul way more comfortable to play because of the smaller size and scale, didn't even knew it was a thing honestly, thought all guitars have same lenght lol. Even if I prefer the Fender look the next guitar will be a Gibson scale one and will just push the trebble knob higher to get a "stratier" sound and call it a day.
@Tt-nt1iu
@Tt-nt1iu Жыл бұрын
If pick ups don’t effect tone all that much, and I agree they don’t, we should probably start viewing their value in the context of which is the quietest. What pick up makes the least amount of noise under high gain?
@judythepunk461
@judythepunk461 Жыл бұрын
I love these videos Glenn haha, being a 23 year old female rock musician, it's awesome that brands like harley benton can keep up with the more expensive brands! And i totally agree, almost all of the sound depends on the speakers in the cab!
@ichbrauchmehrkaffee5785
@ichbrauchmehrkaffee5785 Жыл бұрын
In the clean test, I could tell, that the second guitar sounded *slightly* different form the rest, but once the edge of breakup test commenced, those differences just YEETED themselves off into the abbyss.
@bengreenbank
@bengreenbank Жыл бұрын
Yeah the clean sounds were definitely all slightly different. I have no idea which was which or even which was the best but they definitely weren't identical. As you say as soon as you add any breakup/distortion they all sound the same.
@crypticreality8484
@crypticreality8484 4 ай бұрын
B has that chimney Strat sound
@thedoctorbob7
@thedoctorbob7 Жыл бұрын
Another point is that lot of the tone is also from all the 5000 pedals that everyone feeds the sound through too. Making the pickups and guitar a lot less pronounced as well. You can make any guitar have any tone you want basically if you have the right pedals and amps.
@kennethc2466
@kennethc2466 Жыл бұрын
Or a DSP daw and 1000 VSTs, being 'mastered' at 128kbps, MP3. Only then can you pretend an HSS Strat sounds like a Les Paul. This is coming from the goon who says pickups are the only thing that makes sound in the guitar, yet now says they all sound the same. Seems quite silly for an adult of his age, even in the 'click bait till you $make$', drama queen youtube world.
@Levy3o8
@Levy3o8 Жыл бұрын
As an owner of many various guitars with various pickup types, expensive and inexpensive alike, more pedals than I have feet, and with over 16 years of on-again/off-again playing....I thought they all sounded awesome. Even the HB, which ever one that was. No wait, ESPECIALLY the HB cause it's $260 and hanging with the $12K les paul (i looked it up on reveb).
@AllCarsUnited
@AllCarsUnited Жыл бұрын
More pedals than you have feet? So, what's that , 3?
@Levy3o8
@Levy3o8 Жыл бұрын
@@AllCarsUnited very astute observation 🧐
@violencefight9557
@violencefight9557 Жыл бұрын
Why did he say it was 4 grand and not to look it up? Did he tell his wife he only paid 4? Did he pay 40 grand as the text on the screen said and he doesn't want to know what they are selling for now?
@mattmanley7118
@mattmanley7118 Жыл бұрын
Great stuff Glenn. Some of these comments are wild!😅
@bmannned
@bmannned Жыл бұрын
Here's the thing. I've done the tests. I uploaded my first for Glenn to hear at high gain... He replied that my channel had nothing on there, but it does. I've since done more. Actually, I recorded all with amp sims so I have the original sound of just the pickup, and there's large differences in tone. Glenn even did the whole clean thing in a prior video and he stated as much, so what's going on here? Why is he getting tones so similar now? Mike Stamper has a whole channel comparing different pickups. Though some sound similar, there's also large differences in Tone with different humbuckers. I'll be uploading the clean sounds tomorrow.
@Superman-pn1rx
@Superman-pn1rx Жыл бұрын
@@bmannned very interesting but say your predictions about this video. I don’t have trained ears, but for someone more acquainted, probably is easily recognizable.
@snap-off5383
@snap-off5383 Жыл бұрын
@@bmannned "this channel doesn't have any content."
@metalcandr6681
@metalcandr6681 Жыл бұрын
@@snap-off5383 Click on the Videos heading. There is a video there.
@Bob-of-Zoid
@Bob-of-Zoid Жыл бұрын
@@bmannned His main contention, and mine too, and really anyone who understands that comparisons of anything are not reliable unless there's a well controlled experiment, and I have seen it way too often that they were no such thing, and also that "I can hear" is no substitute for "these measurements show". "I hear..." presented as part of the results nullifies the whole experiment, because of human psychology. I am also suspicious there may be some mind game at play here to serve a yet unknown purpose, and in this case maybe that even if the guitars do sound different, it's nothing a few basic amp settings can't fix to make them very hard to tell apart. We'll just have to wait and see.
@brandonishsnaksj3273
@brandonishsnaksj3273 Жыл бұрын
Not a guitarist, nor a sound engineer. Just wandered through. I have no clue which guitar is which in the first test. But I did notice slight differences in the backround "tone". The part that rings out after a string is plucked. Some seemed more "full" than others
@calvertphoto
@calvertphoto Жыл бұрын
Only a minimal difference between them, but put those in a mix and they will be virtually indistinguishable. Great vid Glenn!
@franciscopellegrini1
@franciscopellegrini1 Жыл бұрын
Since several years ago I've been choosing cheap guitars and working to make them the best possible having a limited budget, and results are pretty good! If you want to spend thousands of dollars it's up to you, but it will definitively not improve your tone nor make your audience say "whoaaaa" to your sound - maybe because of the brand in the headstock 🤣 BTW nice work as usual Glenn 🙌
@roywiseman
@roywiseman Жыл бұрын
It's like buying an expensive car. Won't change anything, still goes 10 MPH when you are stuck in a traffic jam and you are limited by the speed limit of the road you are on, bt wow, it has heated seats! Amzing! Expensive guitars are an absolute con, and when people talk about tone, they might as well be masturbating.
@bob-rogers
@bob-rogers Жыл бұрын
That's a great demo. I see you have the results posted now, so I'm going to check that out. To me, they all sound pretty similar. Like I can hear a difference, especially on the clean sound, but if it was part of a mix, any of them could work.
@MJHiteshew
@MJHiteshew Жыл бұрын
No you can’t
@roywiseman
@roywiseman Жыл бұрын
​@@MJHiteshewExactly. The only possible ""difference"" is that he might have played slightly different on each guitar, but no, you can't tell the difference between the $4,000 and the $269 guitar. There is absolutely no way that you can tell the difference. Guitar snobs are completely fulll of crap as I've said for years - I just watched a Paul Davids go to a shop and play some 60 year old Les Paul worth 20,000 EUR or something and he's like "wow! it's so amazing! listen to the tone!". No it's not, it's all bullshit.
@MJHiteshew
@MJHiteshew Жыл бұрын
@@roywiseman I think it was $100,000 and he said it was “warmer” than the modern day version. Nope. Notta.
@joshleclair234
@joshleclair234 5 ай бұрын
​@@roywiseman I agree with you
@onerandombruh
@onerandombruh Жыл бұрын
All hail Glen the Scourge of the Elitism, the Bringer of Truth, Screamer of Facts, Mad Grumpy Uncle!
@emecorp
@emecorp Жыл бұрын
I think there are some tone differences between every guitar, but quite minimal. My guesses are: A: Strat B: H.Benton C: Gibson D: PRS However, once switched to the overdriven/Distorted sound... I would interchange A with.. D? I mean, defeating all my guesses and proving your point, the sound of a strat could be indistinguishable from another haha. But, I am not really sure about my other guesses so, lets find out in your next video.
@joshuakarar3594
@joshuakarar3594 Жыл бұрын
That’s what I thought as well. A Strat B. HB C. Gibson D: PRS with Active p/ ups But I wouldn’t have even noticed these tonal differences but for hearing them in a shootout. Even then, I’m not sure they scientifically measured pickup heights, etc. In a mix? Not a chance in hell lol
@andreil1234
@andreil1234 Жыл бұрын
Listen closely to the attack for C. It's the active pickups.
@Relyick
@Relyick Жыл бұрын
They sound a bit different clean. If I had to guess C had the emgs; C or D but honestly I have not a clue.
@Page9theband
@Page9theband Жыл бұрын
In the clean test, B seemed to have the most unique character so I bet it’s the H. Benton 😂 but yep, point proven: very very minimal (if any) difference between the 4. Keep fighting the good fight, Frickster! I’m sorry that we use autotune 😅
@vedranb87
@vedranb87 Жыл бұрын
C and D are indistinguishable. B is noticeably different from A, but hard for me to tell how A compares to C and D.
@jjr007
@jjr007 Жыл бұрын
I chose that one as the H.B. as well, but just because in the clean, it seemed to have lower output.
@PowerPlantSpots
@PowerPlantSpots Жыл бұрын
I'm expecting to be wrong, but here goes: A is the Harley Benton. B is the Les Paul. C is the PRS with EMGs. D is the Strat HSS. There are definite differences in the clean tones, but I'm basing my choices on the last chord and the way the frequencies decay at different rates. Obviously, something you rarely get to hear on a recording other than the last chord of a song. Guitar A had the most reduced frequency response overall, so I'll assume it's the Harley. I'm used to Chinese/Indonesian pickups with this type of response curve. B simply sounds like my Les Paul. C had extended top end with the compression I associate with active EMGs. (Although you didn't specify they weren't passive EMGs, I've removed them from every guitar I bought with passives EMG because they suck. No highs and terrible treble articulation.) D sounded like the many American Elite HSSs I've played. I repeat: I expect to be wrong and enjoy when I am - because I learn something!
@jorgynes6443
@jorgynes6443 Жыл бұрын
Yea I agree with A and B
@coop1311
@coop1311 Жыл бұрын
My rough guess too
@acefury6294
@acefury6294 Жыл бұрын
This is what exactly what I thought
@mikeyj80
@mikeyj80 Жыл бұрын
i thought D is the strat too
@matthewrosenthal4688
@matthewrosenthal4688 Жыл бұрын
Too many double negatives, cannot compute.
@timmackinnon
@timmackinnon Жыл бұрын
This is really cool, I love your videos. Do you think something like a Gretch Filtertron humbucker would be discernable, or like these is it also an optical illusion
@patterns-in-noise
@patterns-in-noise Жыл бұрын
I would not have guessed just how similar the tone was for all 4. The most notable thing for me was the higher output and brighter attack on #3. I assume the controls on the guitars were all wide open? I want to play too, so my best guess: PRS, Strat, HB, LP. Great video!
@lukasvandewiel860
@lukasvandewiel860 Жыл бұрын
Exactly that higher output or guitar C made me assume it was the PRS. 🙂
@shiftystylin
@shiftystylin Жыл бұрын
D is the only one that sounded noticeably different to me. The rest were the same. I'd be tempted to say D was the EMG set, but I couldn't tell you why - something about the cleans sounded different. Nice job Glenn.
@leftofpunk
@leftofpunk Жыл бұрын
Yes! There was something more "open" about it, at least on the first test.
@watersnortmoment3734
@watersnortmoment3734 Жыл бұрын
This is why I'm starting to think it's a placebo. For example, if you listen to certain phrases (Yanny Laurel, That is embarrassing chant) they sound different depending on what you read/think. In this case, I'd assume showing the letters actually convinces your mind that there has to be something different. I'm convinced that if he had them smoothly transition without the letters on the screen, it'd be much harder to notice any difference at all. There's also the fact that humans aren't robots, we can't do the same thing exactly the same way every time, that's why we double track things, there could be ever so slight differences to the way they're playing because of the neck shape or fret size. There are so many hidden variables that we realistically can't come to definitive conclusions without making assumptions. I'll admit I was butthurt when I saw the original "do pickups really matter" video, so I tested it on my own. I did my best to make sure the recording setup was as close to identical as possible between takes and I was shocked to find out Glenn was right. I noticed the same thing as this video showed, they all sounded close enough that most people would call them identical. With my Sennheisers, there were minuscule differences, but through my friend's headphones and my phone speaker there were no perceivable differences. All this is to say, the in the room sound can create major biases that you wouldn't recognize unless you actually test them. I would bet that the phenomenon that leads to the phrase "This is embarrassing" sounding like different phrases depending on what you're thinking of, is actually just the look/feel of the guitar changing how you hear it out of the cabinet.
@anastasialopez1154
@anastasialopez1154 Жыл бұрын
I wish there was a video over all the different woods, that are showing up on fretboards. Is Amaranth that bad? Is Richlite terrible? Your take on C.I.T.E.S. and alternative woods. Can you do it?
@dabanjo
@dabanjo Жыл бұрын
There are differences. I think the point of these tests Glenn's been doing is that the differences aren't what we've been led to believe. And they aren't that extreme. The way I see it, if someone claims to be a Fender or Gibson "tone purist" they should be able to tell immediately which is which. I personally am a Fender player, I always have played Strats or Teles, I've been a guitar salesman and instructor for decades. I cannot pick out which is which. I chose D as the Strat in these just because I liked it most lol.
@rjbrando9616
@rjbrando9616 Жыл бұрын
To add to that, the differences are so subtle that the second you add any breakup, they're essentially nullified lol
@ChrisRash
@ChrisRash Жыл бұрын
​@@rjbrando9616then add a band and there is absolutely no difference. I was thinking D was the strat also.
@Leychen
@Leychen Жыл бұрын
I like A and D most but i also think one of these has the EMGs, probably D
@nolyspe
@nolyspe Жыл бұрын
Diff pickups will also stimulate the amp differently depending on how hot they run. I would have liked to hear more riffs though, especially with more varied dynamics. I don't think pickups make a huge difference in terms of sound (and certainly not for the price that boutique pickups run), but they certainly make a difference in terms of dynamics. My PRS sounds hella different from my EMG loaded ESP when you, even running through the same distorted amp.
@ericwilliams538
@ericwilliams538 Жыл бұрын
Yes, agreed, but I don't think that's the main point of this "test". I'm sure you are aware of this too. I've said this for quite some time now.... " There are only so many ways to make pick ups for guitars before you run out of ways to make them!."
@williamgray5712
@williamgray5712 5 ай бұрын
A Prs, B Strat, C Sg, D Les Paul. Have not a lot of love for the Amp, kind of stiff to my ears but still sounded nice enough. Awesome video.
@sir.shreddington
@sir.shreddington Жыл бұрын
Thanks for what you do here Glen! Because of your channel you inspired me to place more importance on speaker cabs and other aspects of the signal chain that I was under-appreciating. It’s really helped elevate my recording quality and zone in on aspects of the chain I want to change to get a desired sound. I still buy and swap pickups because they affect the feel for me in the room, and if I feel good about my playing at a psychological level, then I’ll play better. Whatever helps! Well… aside from practicing because everyone knows practice and fundamentals are for the talentless 😁
@bassinbob1965
@bassinbob1965 Жыл бұрын
You are without a doubt, in my opinion, the best in the bizzz. I can't even begin to tell you how much I have learned from you in just a few short week than I have learned from everyone else since the internet was invented. I'm sure you hear stuff like this all the time but with my health condition, I'm not long for this world and I didn't want to leave here without telling you this. Peace bud.
@edgarwalk5637
@edgarwalk5637 Жыл бұрын
Great tests, not too long between a and b (this time c and d as well).
@tannerbarsness9992
@tannerbarsness9992 Жыл бұрын
I feel I could only really hear super super super subtle differences with the clean tones. Maybe some had a little more high end, and others had more mids, but I think that has more to do with the pickups than the wood, and I still would be happy to play that Harley Benton.
@SDCromwell
@SDCromwell Жыл бұрын
I love real-world tests like this! For my part, my guess would be: A: Gibson B: Harley C: Strat D: PRS I don't have great ears, but even to me I found Glenn's assertion that "Humbuckers mostly all sound the same by the time the tone gets to the consumer" a little alarming, but he's done a great job of proving it. Keep up the great work!
@biggcustomz8583
@biggcustomz8583 Жыл бұрын
Great testing content Glen! To my ears guitar C sounded notably different than the rest. Since you asked to guess, ill guess that C is the Les Paul. Either way, im excited to learn what the results are. I can already see how many viewers will be secretly pissed off at the results. Lol. These blind tests are the the most "hurtful" to guitar snobs and puts them in denial. 👍🤘
@evilpandakillabzonattkoccu4879
@evilpandakillabzonattkoccu4879 Жыл бұрын
I agree, it sounded different, but I think it's the PRS. ....do I know? nope. 😂🤷‍♂️ It's just my guess 👍
@sinnersammusic
@sinnersammusic 2 күн бұрын
I have noticed the difference between two guitars with Marshall amp. Why was it? Because my gain was lower (just enough to make heavy metal sound) and one of those pickups were high af and the second was mid. What was the difference? The amount of distortion without turning the knob.
@edgarwalk5637
@edgarwalk5637 Жыл бұрын
They all sounded great! Only very slightly different, but it comes down to the guitarist, who's freaking awesome!
@TurfShifter
@TurfShifter Жыл бұрын
I never play with gain and there is a clear difference. I know; why do I watch this channel if I'm not into gain? Because I still like the content and the way it is presented .....
@SpectreSoundStudios
@SpectreSoundStudios Жыл бұрын
Watch the video. We used ZERO hi gain. So pick out when the Strat is playing!!
@TurfShifter
@TurfShifter Жыл бұрын
@@SpectreSoundStudios you caught me Glen! I hadn't watched at that point! I will say with my rig at home playing some RHCP sounds noticeably different compared with my Les Paul and my Strat. However my ears are pretty well fucked at this stage of my life....
@ImLOG4N
@ImLOG4N Жыл бұрын
Same
@michellewentworth9862
@michellewentworth9862 2 ай бұрын
I could hear some difference between the sounds but that could easily be compensated with some equalisation. There was no chance I could pick the instruments, maybe guitar B sounded like the Strat? I love Strats because they sit comfortably in my lap. Jim Lill has a really good video that illustrates how little difference tone wood makes.
@vonbleak101
@vonbleak101 Жыл бұрын
A. B and D did sounds pretty similar but C did stand out as sounding different... But that may have been just the playing was a little different, good work Glen as always... I have to admit i thought there would be alot more difference at those gain levels... Guess the only real choice of pickups is - Single/Hum/P-90 and from there the differences become tiny...
@ChristopherRoss.
@ChristopherRoss. Жыл бұрын
I would also propose two axies: "cheap" to "not cheap" and "passive" to "active". Generally you can always hear the difference between a no-name $50 sweatshop guitar's pickup and even something like a squire's pickup. Also, the differences between passive and active pickups--though subtle--tend to shine through in a mix IMHO.
@jcout25
@jcout25 Жыл бұрын
I broke out of my tone snobery when I came to a realization. I should stop chasing tone and swapping pickups and just accept the sound my guitar makes. Then make songs tailored to that tone. Every guitar I own (over 30) has it's own voice and makes it's own sound. And I love it! Not to mention, under high gain they ALL sound the same lol.
@noggintube
@noggintube Жыл бұрын
I watched a recent interview with Nuno Bettencourt and he was saying about how excited he was when EVH left him have a go on his rig. He said he was waiting to hear that EVH sound, but he started playing and realised he just sounded like himself 😂
@vhw
@vhw Жыл бұрын
@@noggintube The Rick Beato interview. Nino is a fucking blast to listen to, good interview skills from Rick
@noggintube
@noggintube Жыл бұрын
@@vhw yeah that's the one 👍 I've watched it a few times, he's got some great stories and seems the sort of guy that would be great to hang out with.
@glen7228
@glen7228 Жыл бұрын
I'm a 63 year old that's been playing electric guitar since I was 8 years old. And I have always said that all electric guitars pretty much sound the same once you plug them into an amp. It has always been about the feel of the guitar in my hands and how it is to play it and if I like the looks when it comes to choosing a guitar. You can make a cheap, hard to play, ugly ass guitar sound good by plugging it in to a good amp and playing with the knobs. I always said the tone was in the amp, but Glen has sold me on the speakers being the ultimate factor. Here's something to remember. My Grandpa once told me, " A good mechanic never blames his tools."
@flipper2gv
@flipper2gv Жыл бұрын
All 4 of them sounded different. Knowing which is which is hard, but you can definitely hear differences. I think it makes a MUCH bigger difference on bass. A Bartolini humbucker sounds very different from a Nordstrand.
@DamianAGR_Guitarist
@DamianAGR_Guitarist Жыл бұрын
Here for the butthurt comments 🤣
@SpectreSoundStudios
@SpectreSoundStudios Жыл бұрын
So far it’s a bunch of “of course they sound different” and nobody telling me WHEN they are playing.
@DamianAGR_Guitarist
@DamianAGR_Guitarist Жыл бұрын
@@SpectreSoundStudios i'm not even throwing my hat in the ring 😂Main reason being that I don't care what guitar I play as long as it sounds good coming out the amp. I have 2 HB's, some Ibanez and some other cheap guitars. Depends what mood i'm in as to what shape I play. Remember Glenn, you can lead a horse to water... Keep up the good work dude and F*** You
@leopoflexpostdigital
@leopoflexpostdigital Жыл бұрын
On the clean sound Guitar C sounded slightly brighter to my ears, through my headphones and that was really the only one I actually had a preference for, though the differences between the 3 is minuscule. At the edge of breakup I had no preference. I really hope Guitar C is the Harley Benton that means I can afford it. Though everything in the signal chain does have varying degrees of impact on the output. I go with what my friends who gig regularly and they all say to spend most money on the amplification and speaker cabs. Even then they say that if the cheaper ones sound better to you get that. It would be interesting to see the frequency charts of these Guitars as a DI vs going through the full recording signal chain.
@tensazangetsu8189
@tensazangetsu8189 Жыл бұрын
Glennnnn, you NEED to do a collab with Jim Lill to maybe finally crack guitarist's skulls in with these facts!
@SpectreSoundStudios
@SpectreSoundStudios Жыл бұрын
I’d love to. Jim’s videos are incredible
@vouztyro
@vouztyro Жыл бұрын
"strat" and "les paul" sound entirely different, don't get your point.
@SpectreSoundStudios
@SpectreSoundStudios Жыл бұрын
Great. When are they playing? Talk is cheap.
@sonofromel
@sonofromel Жыл бұрын
​@@SpectreSoundStudios I think he meant the words sound different.
@vouztyro
@vouztyro Жыл бұрын
@@SpectreSoundStudios i meant that as in the words sound different lol
@alrecks619
@alrecks619 Жыл бұрын
lol, lmao
@multi-purposebiped7419
@multi-purposebiped7419 Жыл бұрын
Were the same letters used for the same guitar in both tests? It didn't sound like it to me.
@ajk1989
@ajk1989 Жыл бұрын
that's cool, i could definitely pick up on small differences in tone when clean. B vs D is such a big difference for example. it's amazing how similar they all sound with a bit of gain though. guesses... A - nice mid range - strat? B - slightly more metallic sounding - the sg copy? C - sounds nicely balanced - prs? D - notes ring out for ages and is super deep, suggests the biggest body to me - les paul?
@Thorgrim247
@Thorgrim247 Жыл бұрын
Hard to determine which guitar is which. However, on the clean tones guitar A sounded the worst. There was no sparkle to the high end even though the low end was tighter. B, C, & D all sounded similar but the amp tone was a little heavy on the low end. The sound was slightly out of balance across the sound spectrum. Did you have the tone controls balanced? This would be a big part of the overall sound balance. I would chose the D clean guitar as best out of these three. Breakup, again did not care for B or D. B was muddy with less clarity on the low end run. D was much less push and sustain. Either A or B I guess. Did you use the neck pickup for the breakup?
@robertlevasseur8896
@robertlevasseur8896 Жыл бұрын
Listen to the very last ringing chord in the clean section. Guitar A has a real nice chimey ring. Guitar B is also very nice in the clean with a little more mid range. Guitars C and D seem a little more muted and the notes dont have the same clarity. With that said, I think I am hearing the nut and bridge material differences more than the pickup. I think Glen has made his point though.
@Mommythief0069
@Mommythief0069 Жыл бұрын
Is it the same output? They each are louder or quitter than each other, not a sound difference. It would also explains the more distortion added on the higher volume ones.
@TheSactoSmile
@TheSactoSmile Жыл бұрын
I agree that when comparing the same type of pickups the actual differences in the final recorded result are fairly minimal. I did notice some slight differences in the midrange bump, listening on Barefoot Micromain 27 monitors in a very fancy studio (im working here but i have time to kill rn, long story). Nothing that would make or break a record of course. I would argue two things: differences in output can affect the rest of the stuff you have in the chain (fuzz pedals, distortion & so on) in terms of gain staging which can lead to different sounds. Second thing, the different "feel" in terms or physical ergonomics, necks and so on of the various guitars may inspire you to certain sounds more than others, contributing to what you would generally call "a different sound".
@fmh357
@fmh357 Жыл бұрын
I'm not going to venture a guess but have one observation. I noticed a tiny bit of "playing style" as the notes were picked. My guess would be the guitar shape and how the guitar is held, especially if sitting. Like the difference in how you hold say a Strat and an SG.
@AngelPl4y3r
@AngelPl4y3r Жыл бұрын
Hey Glenn, love the channel, have been watching for a while now and have learned a lot. I play for myself and with some friends every now and then but always shilling to learn. Wanted to ask you about the effect scale lengths for lower tunings. I’m familiar with multi scale guitars, but I tend to hear a lot of “For D Tuning or Drop C a 25.5 scale length is considerably better” i have dable with different gauges when stuff gets too low and I have experienced issues with the intonation of the guitar but once everything set properly is there a meaningful reason to use a 24.5” vs a baritone IN A ACTUAL mix. Thanks! Keep the good stuff coming.
@MrSneakyPants
@MrSneakyPants Жыл бұрын
Since no one answered, I'll chime in. Scale length is actually one of the more defining characteristics as far as what makes guitars sound different. This is the reason to use a 24.5 vs a baritone, given an intended tonal outcome. That being said, when considering excessively low tunings (anything below Drop B), you will want to use a longer scale length (25.5 or longer) for multiple reasons, notably the playability and intonation. String gauge is almost entirely about depth of tuning (outside of difference in playability). You don't want to string up a Les Paul with .09 -.42s, and tune it to Drop A. This is where using 60+ gauge low E string sets on a 25.5 or a baritone become a necessity. Once you have the tuning and desired playability worked out (determining which guitar to use), it's easier to sculp different tones by picking different amps, speakers, microphones, rooms, and yes, Glen, pickups (although, this is the least determining factor). As far as scale length necessary for whole step down tuning (D or drop C), you can go as short as a 24.5", no problem. I was able to get one of my PRS McCarty guitars (25") down to drop A, but it took a considerable amount of tweaking by my luthier, including sanding down the wraparound tailpiece, to reduce its depth. It sounded great and very unique, though. My luthier didn't want to see me for a while after that...
@SlightlyTechnical
@SlightlyTechnical Жыл бұрын
i heard greater differences in the clean tones, but those could be down to how the pickup interacts with the amp, those tend to disappear with the edge of breakup tones,
@p7g498
@p7g498 Жыл бұрын
always look forward to the content. I read an article quick article where the new rabbit hole is matching pickups to speakers….. what will they come up with next? im not into metal tones but always look forward to your vids.
@jeffhudson2346
@jeffhudson2346 5 ай бұрын
It will be whatever will move the items glutting up the warehouse the most at reverb or guitar center.
@mgynther
@mgynther Жыл бұрын
My guesswork: A=HB, B=Strat, C=LP, D=PRS Wouldn't care at all which guitar was on my record as every one of them gets the job done. There's subtle differences which might slightly affect how I'd treat each sound in the mix. But to me it's not even about better or worse, just minimally different. That being said personally I do utilize the minimal tonal differences of my guitars when recording knowing how subtle it is. The subtle stuff can only matter if you are happy with your sound to begin with.
@aproctor1968
@aproctor1968 5 ай бұрын
Going by the finish color to sound standard, I'd say B is the PRS and C is the Strat. It's tough to tell the Les Paul from the HB SG given that their color depth is similar.
@martinbohl8732
@martinbohl8732 Жыл бұрын
haha is relativley quite in the comment section about which one is which. where are you tone snobs? love the video Glenn!!!
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