let's talk about DOOGAL | Butch Hartman

[@RebelTaxi]

You can't run from your past

[@JammoYT]

*Original Teen Titans review flashbacks*

[@GovalTrace]

you say from experience? XD

[@isidora1299]

RebelTaxi oh ya you reviewed this movie

[@BugsyFoga]

RebelTaxi Are you talking about butch or yourself .😁

[@Smartguy725]

Get Butch on the podcast :^)

[@Gilbertify1]

"I want to apologize for Doogal" Hahahahaha didn't think you would say that! Yeah, that movie was noooot the best. This is a very interesting story!

[@Jonathanest90s]

Gilbertify very interesting!

[@Spinforvon]

Gilbertify watch his vid on his KZbin channel

[@matthewballon9948]

Well doesn't he have the original recording.

[@spoonybard13]

I had no idea Butch Hartman was involved with Doogal! I must have last seen it when I was, like, 7, and my mom HATED it. Pretty surprising to find out that a movie like that had a cool history behind it. Also, I'm getting flashbacks of some of the lines in that movie. Someone help...

[@TheMooringLine]

I remember seeing Doogal in theaters because I was such a big fan of Butch Hartman... oh boy

[@ChristopherSobieniak]

Now you know!

[@andrewmorrice9139]

I've never understood why US producers feel the need to dub UK productions. It's not like they're in a foreign language or anything. US cartoons were just left as is and I learned phrases and language from them. No wonder Aardman fell out with Dreamworks.

[@emokiddio]

I️ feel like some of it is also because if a British accent is really strong, it can be difficult for US viewers to understand + in this movie how they just redubbed it with popular actors - it would get more recognition and more people will go to watch it because they’re more likely to recognize them

[@andrewmorrice9139]

I grew up watching a load of US cartoons that we got imported over here. They changed nothing. So I grew up on American accents and references constantly. I found it educational and never had a problem with it unless there were too many references to US celebs I'd not heard of, but even that was educational in its own way. I feel that part of the charm of overseas shows is the different tones involved and I have as much fun with Top Cat as I do with Count Duckula. Well, we did change Ninja Turtles to Hero Turtles, but we don't talk about that. ;)

[@ChristopherSobieniak]

I suppose it really is a cultural thing with us finding UK dialogue a bit tough (or perceive it to be with a younger audience). What you said about Aardman doesn't surprise me at all given the way Dreamworks treated them.

[@andrewmorrice9139]

I don't think it's fair on US audiences to not even be given the chance. As I say, US references and language are all left intact on imports here and UK audiences seem to have no trouble figuring out what's going on.

[@UltimaKeyMaster]

As Doogal proved, audiences can easily see it as mindless pandering (even with Butch's effort, however improved it probably was, you'd probably still be able to tell). It's like when you're just plain dubbing over something, why would you treat it as a more creative adaptation? Dubbing an existing source shouldn't be the same as converting Super Sentai to Power Rangers, big script changes should only be made out of *necessity* that you really think audiences couldn't pick up on insanely subtle things. Americans I THINK are smart enough to want to know how British comedy works when it's the exact same language.

[@Austinator0630]

Recently, the trivia page for Doogal's imdb profile has been updated. It's revealed that the script for Doogal isn't Hartman's. It was discarded and rewritten by others(possibly by Cory Edwards who name is in the writing credits). Only a small fraction of Hartman's material made it into the final movie.

[@liplessnavajo4011]

I really like the behind the scenes stories

[@JoeyTCartoonP]

Nostalgia Critic/Butch Hartman Crossover of Doogal anybody?

[@Jonathanest90s]

Joey.T.Cartoon.P yes! It’s a must!

[@GreatBeast455]

Ooooooooh that would be so cool! :D

[@moonmannd7501]

The scary part is that's 100% doable.

[@creepyguy9082]

Joey.T.Cartoon.P BOOK IT!

[@gabe_s_videos]

Unfortunately it looks like that ship has sailed, what with Channel Awesome's public imagined being FUBAR'd right now.

[@PlebNC]

So the studio thought people couldn't grasp the concept of British coloquialisms? That's BS. As someone who's childhood was dominated by American made cartoons without localisation for my culture, if my 7 year old self can figure out how the school grade system in the show Recess worked and how it relates to our British school year system then an American kid "should" be able to grasp the meaning of "top of the morning chaps" as a greeting. It also removes some of the soul of the movie akin to how anime often gets localised to replace Eastern foods, like rice balls, with Western foods like submarine sandwiches.

[@ChristopherSobieniak]

If it makes it up to you, I used to watch the Paddington Bear shorts from the 70's and I never had a problem with the way those were narrated!

[@icecreamhero2375]

Food being replaced in anime doesn't matter as long as it doesn't affect the plot

[@choruskirby1886]

"It also removes some of the soul of the movie akin to how anime often gets localised to replace Eastern foods, like rice balls, with Western foods like submarine sandwiches." JEEZ, DOUNTS ARE GREAT!!! JELLY FILLED ARE MY FAVORITE!!! NOTHING BEATS A JELLY FILLED DONUT!!!

[@icecreamhero2375]

But the food brock is eating doesn't affect the story. Also I strongly disagree. The American theme song to Pokemon is a masterpiece but the Japanese one sucks by comparison.

[@sneakybug9828]

I love jelly filled donuts

[@gametron5917]

so the original recordings for 'Doogal' is basically lost forever...

[@ChristopherSobieniak]

Probably.

[@gabe_s_videos]

No, it's still available in England under it's original name "The Magic Roundabout." But it's hard to obtain in America. I'm told it's mediocre at best.

[@JumboDS64]

i think gametron means the Butch rewrite, after the original english one but before the final american release

[@roberttreacy8271]

Fraid so.

[@jackiegonzalez6814]

Pasteloween CHOO CHOO! ALL ABOARD!

[@notoriusc]

I honestly think he (HW) was never planning on doing the live action part. He wanted you to rewrite it for him

[@gabe_s_videos]

He probably just said it to get Butch off his back.

[@JBryc3]

The magic roundabout was a great film. Strange it wasn’t released in the US as the same movie.

[@yellowroseproductions363]

I completely forgot about Doogal. The only thing I remembered from it was the train. Butch, of they would've used your script, it would've been far better than what that abomination was in the end. Thanks for making my childhood so great!

[@ObiTrev]

So Butch, you ready to rewrite Postaman Pat: The Movie next week?

[@crinkle_cut_content]

I loved doogle this was my childhood And I still have the movie I watch it a lot

[@loggior.speedweed4345]

Let's get Started shall we good for you

[@swarlock]

This is why creators have to have more control over their work. So sorry this happen.

[@alyssap3590]

Damn I used to watch Doogal every Christmas with my cousins and we absolutely loved it

[@willcarroll3712]

I'd love to hear about the movies you sold

[@tscgensixxx2341]

I love your art and cartoons

[@roberttreacy8271]

Me too!

[@flannerymonaghan-morris4825]

I would LOVE to see a disaster artist type movie made about this.

[@danwilliams1989]

I suddenly want to see the Butch Hartman cut of the movie

[@jackiegonzalez6814]

Dan Williams probably is in the lost media wiki.

[@CamsEyeView]

It's like the Weinsteins didn't understand at all how animation worked...

[@ChristopherSobieniak]

They're more like what Roger Corman is. They just got lucky when it came to certain films they managed to acquire like Cinema Paradiso or even Pulp Fiction.

[@dwainsimmons3447]

Weinstein never understand anything

[@rodgerrocket810]

If Nostalgia Critic reviews this abomination, how about you crossover with him?

[@Thomas__Blue]

I liked Doogal when it first came out, but I can't watch it anymore. I love the UK "Magic Roundabout" film, as it's very entertaining, so why you'd say it's boring is beyond me, but a very interesting history of your involvement indeed.

[@jukou4life583]

Doogal was my childhood, along with the Tale of Despereaux

[@flannerymonaghan-morris4825]

The child actor who played Doogal in this, Daniel Tay, was just 14-15 at the time of recording his lines. He had relatively little VA experience…combine that with bad voice direction, and oooh boy did you have a shitshow on your hands.

[@benmalsky9834]

Always love hearing Butch telling stories like this.

[@michaelcali8304]

You should look into doing a nostalgia critic crossover review of doogal! That would be dope.

[@programxblaze8181]

Doogal was awesome. I loved the dioulouge. It was the best part. You are sooo my hero butch Hartman

[@LilyN2099]

IVE ALWAYS BEEN INTERESTED ABOUT BUTCH DOING DOOGAL LOL

[@samdug9]

Does anyone here knows that the original doogal version is not the UK one but the french one !

[@moodlemcdoodle5746]

Magic Roundabout was actually such a fun movie though, I loved it as a kid and honestly still do (the original, I've never seen the American dub but i'm guessing it's not great)

[@AnneIllustrating]

MeoTheRandom The dub was absolute garbage. Don’t bother. I recommend you watch a KZbinr’s review of it just so you only get little snippets of the dumbness.

[@moodlemcdoodle5746]

JediAnn Solo yeah good idea XD

[@mesquitegirl2013]

Sorry that you had to go through this, but glad you shared this with us

[@JammoYT]

Just watch the Magic Roundabout instead

[@JammoYT]

Robo4900 I doubt anybody wants anything to do with that franchise after Doogal

[@BP-dn9nv]

Robo4900 Not trying to attack the show itself, though I hear that the UK version of the movie wasn't well received either, just not to the unimaginable extent the american one was.

[@lordoflard1425]

i always see doogal dvds at flea markets, congrats butch, you made it!

[@cecilyerker]

I actually saw this movie in theaters with my friends and we roasted it and cried til we pissed

[@jakedebruin2246]

As a Canadian, I sometimes say top of the morning to you latty, one of my American friends says it to.

[@cynthmcgpoet]

So which poor sap ended up with Leo the Lion?

[@markthomas6236]

I love what you do

[@akirandrake414]

Sorry you had to do that movie.

[@Mr.C723]

Maybe you guys can do a speech bubble about Butch Hartman's time working on the animated classic An American Tail.

[@nathanforester5993]

I'm betting that it was Weinstein's decision to swap out most of the voice cast apart from Minogue and Mckellen.

[@benmalsky9834]

I really would have liked to have seen this movie the way Butch wrote it and recorded it.

[@R4NC1D]

Who else saw the deleted video?

[@charlesforte4968]

Jolting Jello ayyy

[@R4NC1D]

Charles Forte ayyy

[@FatalTilt]

Me 500000000000000000

[@sion8]

When I first heard of "Doogle" I couldn't believe it was from you! The art style didn't match what I know of you nor the story style, but I now know why!

[@death7242]

Doogal is of my favorite movies

[@LePenguin]

Howcome Dougal was voiced by a kid in the US version?

[@GreatBeast455]

I theorize it was probably to make the character more relatable towards children.

[@NathanSimpsonnathanisbeast]

Maybe they couldn’t afford Robbie Williams or David Holt?

[@jakesixty-three4738]

I used to have a copy of Dougal on DVD but I think I sold it at a yard sale

[@renegonzalez6063]

That's a good idea I'm really want to hear all the movies you sold and the process

[@christiantracey1479]

Doogal was a part of my childhood

[@user-xb7uu9rn9v]

Ummmm... Excuse me? The Magic Roundabout bangs and I will hear no slander of it!!!!

[@brendan_l18]

Its on your imdb

[@stui8Bit231vamp734]

Which podcast episode is this from? There a bunch that they did that involve spoilery stuff.

[@NathanSimpsonnathanisbeast]

Did you know there was a Magic Roundabout movie in 1970 called “Dougal and the Blue Cat”, I wonder if the Americans would call it “Doogal And the Blue Cat”

[@ltmmoviereviewsharrison3462]

Wouldn’t butch Hartmans original plan work better ?

[@zacharylunsford2]

Can you talk about Wowser anime series from 80's?

[@ChristopherSobieniak]

Another case of America never having seen the original Belgian comic it was based on!

[@paulhurt839]

Moral of this story: know when to turn a job down.

[@briannavictoria9137]

I remember seeing Doogal as a kid lol😂

[@kyledawson8354]

Please do this!

[@IronhorseRailProductions]

I loved that movie so much when I was little because my last name is dougal and yes they are pronounced the same way

[@TylerSnyder305]

I've never heard of this movie, for some reason I thought the dog in the picture was that talking dog from UP.

[@helenhodges2656]

Tyler Snyder you haven't heard of it?

[@TylerSnyder305]

Helen Hodges Nope, I've never heard of Doogal

[@helenhodges2656]

Tyler Snyder I have although over here its Calld The Magic Roundabout look it up findcthe movie Watch it im sure you'll like it

[@battledroid7340]

Roger Roger

[@mikenoonan9681]

how dare you?! doogal is a national treasure

[@NathanSimpsonnathanisbeast]

Uhh… don’t you mean “The Magic Roundabout” is a National Treasure?

[@julianhernandez5778]

So basically Weinstein betrayed Hartman

[@dwainsimmons3447]

Pretty much

[@lukereddingi4452]

i loved doogal

[@Jonathanest90s]

and how Harvey Weinstein is in prison.

[@jackiegonzalez6814]

Jonathan Pinzon good riddance!

[@aramnolastname1301]

HW? Harrison Wells?

[@waddupjd]

DOOGAL WAS MY SHIT ..sorry

[@deceseze]

doogal indeed is shit

[@summerweendream9706]

oh dear lord.

[@nominique7965]

Im 19, i think i was like 7-8 when the movie came out. i loved it then, i guess because i was so young. i like some parts of it now, not all of it. but its definitely not the worst movie ever made

[@harleylaufeyson6136]

And there goes that one movie I almost forgot about because it sucked but I love it...thanks Butch

[@Elvusmiw]

So what was the point of hiring you,omg butch u deserve a medal for making and working really hard, on a ooooh movie, even I was confused with the moose

[@jadaedvon293]

Not ganna lie when i was a kid i thought doogal was AMAZING it gives me such nostalgia but now that i look at this and look back it was a lil off

[@THETHREELEMONS]

Lol , I had the English copy.

[@ChristianFrates1997]

I feel sorry for you, Butch.

[@cartersmith6795]

I done

[@pacthesir]

The magic roundabout was not boring, it was better!!! and I'm from the u.s.

[@ryancarless7921]

I heard the whole thing from rebeltaxi

[@wallacebruce1997]

I’m from the UK and thats bollocks

[@caryh8]

Ok, but at the end when Butch said someone had redubbed and rewritten most of he had done, he doesn't say who did it. Until he gives names on who exactly did it, I'm just gonna assume this was a half-hearted attempt at deflecting criticism at his work. But it's also interesting to know that while he hated his experience with Doogal, he has no shame in the abominations that were the FOP live action movies.

[@billybarnett9518]

Maybe he just didn't wanna name names, or never found out who did it, he said didn't call them back.

[@bluebronco3081]

Jimmyhere is doogal

[@crypticbeast1013]

To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Doogal. The humor is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical physics most of the jokes will go over a typical viewer's head. There's also Doogal's nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his characterisation - his personal philosophy draws heavily from Narodnaya Volya literature, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these jokes, to realize that they're not just funny- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who hate Doogal truly ARE idiots.

[@jonmat4271]

Cat bowl

[@TheLibraryAssistantsGuide]

That wasn't very cool ---- running you ragged and then changing the entire thing. Sorry that you went through all of that, Butch.

[@BulkBrogan.]

Ugh this makes me feel so bad this pile of crap he was handed for his only movie deal

[@kimandrews55]

1:34

[@kimandrews55]

7:03

[@magnetoonproductions9541]

Rewriting that film, and barely any of your work is shown. I hate Weinstein. They’re the worst!

[@brianalvinson1823]

I keep repeating because you Haven't answered & I'm persistent I have so much to stay first off big fan of your work second when you had Danny as an adult you could of used Michael J Fox as Dark Danny thirdly I lots of ideas of what you can draw in your style 1. Archie characters 2. F.R.I.E.N.D.S 3. Newspaper comics characters 4. The original 8 Digi-destined (Digimon) 5. Hanna-Barbera characters (i.e Scooby-Doo,Tom and Jerry,Flintstones,etc.) (you're a former H-B animator you can do this) 6. The Wiggles (all members) 7. Grojband 8. One-Hit Wonders 9. The Cast of Your Shows (p.s while Tara Strong is a good Timmy I actually see Charlie Schlatter as the character what would that be like) 10. Star Wars 11. Looney Tunes 12. Queen (the band) 13.All the Live-Action Batman Actors(((plus Kevin Conroy (I know he's the animated batman but he's the most enduring batman))(3 different versions 1.Bruce Wayne(when they first donned the Cape & Cowl) 2.Said Cape & Cowl 3. them now) and last but not least your a friend of Seth McFarlane draw his characters and vice versa

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