SPEED vs. POWER JUMPERS!

[@JumpersJunction]

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[@ShearillBrown]

Great video! Breaking down Triple extension could also be a very informative topic to add to this discussion

[@JumpersJunction]

Such a good point. I have a really good coaching cue about being pulled up by a string like a puppet during takeoff to highlight Newton’s third law and help initiate vertical force into the ground so the ground pushes back on you in the correct position/body alignment and maybe il make a video about it one day.

[@cattycats4]

Full of interesting stuff with good examples, would you say Mike Powell was a power jumper? I always admired the Lewis vs Powell epic battle because Powell didnt have the speed Lewis did (nobody did) but somehow made the perfect jump to go a bit further (0.0 on the board as close to the perfect jump as can be really) I always thought it was refined technique that was the difference but I think you explained it a lot further by looking at tendons etc. :-) fantastic

[@JumpersJunction]

Mike Powell is an interesting one because his speed was probably very similar to Simon Ehammer, but his leg stiffness was probably one of his biggest strengths, and because I was a taller, leaner athlete, he likely trained to utilize those strengths. So he is prob somewhere in between. Actually, a lot/most of professional athletes are somewhere inbetween as they have learned to utilize strength, speed, leg stiffness and power. But for younger athletes this is probably more relevant.

[@jz5005]

Jesus…. well done!

[@ohpolary]

aewesome video Love it dude

[@JumpersJunction]

Thanks a bunch

[@jz5005]

Awesome channel & fascinating video. I alway wondered why in my youth I could beat the provincial long jump champ at standing long jump but he'd wollup me at running long jump. At > 50 now I would still come in top 10 at NHL combine at standing lomg jump. Always dreamed of 7M running jump but never came close. I've been planning to start traing again for the past 20 years. It would probably be a miracle to jump 6M at this point. But I'm getting inspired by this channel. Would love to compete in a Masters meet some day.

[@aodoemela]

Its not really correct to describe them as speed and power jumpers since the speed jumpers because the "speed" jumpers are technically more powerful if they are jumping to the same height the "speed jumper" has a shorter ground contact time but transfers similar amounts of energy P=W/t so the "speed jumper" is more powerful. Somatotypes have also been shown to be very flawed. They were originally made by psychologists and have no actual scientific basis. Better terminology would be elastic jumpers vs contractile jumpers. The elastic jumpers make use more of the stretch shortening cycle and the elastic properties of their muscles and tendons while contractile jumpers use more energy produced directly from the muscles.

[@JumpersJunction]

Thanks for the reply and you have some great points! The somatotype discussion was more to drive in the point about why some athletes (especially non-elite athletes) who may have more mass may have a subconscious predisposition to load more during SSC which then may then carry over into their training (cause and effect) which then leads to continuing to train with longer ground contacts. (Which can be addressed with proper coaching and training). And I absolutely love your terminology! They would be a fantastic classification of these two styles. I may add that in the description. I was originally categorizing them as speed vs strength jumpers but i was trying to appeal to a broader audience I guess.

[@aodoemela]

@@JumpersJunction Even if you're trying to appeal to the masses i think its best to try be as accurate as possible. You should give people more credit, these concepts are fairly intuitive so I think they'd be able to understand them with more appropriate terminology. You don't have to use the terms elastic and contractile you could say speed vs strength. Power is definitely an abused term. The somatotypes though its hard to say how true this actually is. For basketball its a bit more cut and dry. Jumpers who rely more on the conversion of kinetic energy will jump off of 1 foot rather than two. In long and high jump though its very much a speed game and you really want to be using as much of your velocity as possible, if being a "power jumper" was more beneficial I'm sure we'd see more people jumping off of 2 feet ( iirc its baned in both mostly because its was less efficient than one foot unless you were someraluting ), but i think unless you are rotating one foot is always going to be better for long jump.

[@JumpersJunction]

@@aodoemela Agreed, and in high jump, that’s actually what led to the rise of the Soviet jumpers in the late 1950’s. Check out the video I did on “Built-Up Shoes” and about Yuriy Stepanov. I’d love to do a video one day on Yuri Verkhoshansky and his impact the jumping events.

[@Bigbrodonateddollarsthroughsup]

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[@pudadera12Yt]

My trainer said I cannot be long jumper cuz the reason is that my speed is not fast but my jump is 5.57 and my old jump is 4.60 I do power exercise all day and push up My long jump is power not speed do I need speed?

[@PharvsAjumper]

I would suggest speed work, i’m not fast either but i have a 5.74 jump which isn’t too far off yours, strength comes as you grow into your body but speed doesn’t

[@Anonymous-jy3ek]

If ur a sprinter , working on power (muscle) and speed (tendons) are important right ?

[@JanmangJanmangg]

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[@JumpersJunction]

Thank you so much!

[@レタス-x4n]

I think Cuba jumpers are many speed jumper（ex:Michael Masso, Iván Pedroso）

[@boyce.cuuuuuuuuuuuh]

I really like this video but comparing ehammer and gayle isn’t the best example, because ehammer has more leg stiffness om takeoff than gayle, but you classified him as the power jumper ( actually strength) but I like the video

[@JumpersJunction]

Great point. I was more trying to emphasize the body type difference and the speed comparison but with professional jumper they pretty much all have developed their reactivity to be optimal so it applies more to youth jumpers i guess. Take Miltiádis Tentóglou as an example. He's 6'1" 165lbs and as far as i can tell his fastest 100m time is 10.7s. but yet he is the ultimate example of Elastic jumper (speed jumper). The lines get blurry with elite athletes, but it can be a helpful awareness for younger athletes to identify areas for improvement in their training.

[@boyce.cuuuuuuuuuuuh]

@@JumpersJunction yea I see your point, the on’y thing is tentoglou is actually really fast, that’s why 100m time shouldn’t always be looked at too much he seems like he could run about as fast as ehammer

[@JumpersJunction]

@@boyce.cuuuuuuuuuuuh true. In reality we need to look at approach terminal velocity but I was having a hard time locating any data on that. But I don’t think I would classify him as having elite sprinter speed. See my latest video I just did on his 8.40m jump last week. TENTOGLOU Miltiadis - 8.40m Long Jump Analysis - 2023 Indoor WORLD LEAD kzbin.info/www/bejne/haTMXpqsbt1rl5o But I really think you are 100 % onto something, I should be using more, in that especially European athletes which there is statistical data on their approach velocity. The analysis done on the European championships every year is super insightful.

[@boyce.cuuuuuuuuuuuh]

@@JumpersJunction Oh if you do find data on the europeans championships last year (2022) It would be nice if you could make a video about it. And also would you qualify Ivan pedroso ( pre 1996 injury) a speed jumper or power jumper or both, It would be nice to analyze either his 8.70m or one of his fouls or maybe a video analyzing a bunch of his jumps, it would be really cool and informative

[@JumpersJunction]

@@boyce.cuuuuuuuuuuuh absolutely! And let me look alittle more into his stats.

[@rkeshng3903]

How much time we should go for Longjump in a week

[@JumpersJunction]

Typically train technicals twice a week with specific weight training and Plyometrics added in 3times a week. But it depends on the time of the year.

[@ArnoldIverson-v8o]

Speed jumpes are 1 foot and power jumpers are 2 foot

[@awedee.0]

4:23 thats not even the had that got hit though.?.