Speed with Ball is a SCAM? My Final Thoughts

Speed with Ball is a SCAM? My Final Thoughts
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[@nba2ktutes]

What do you guys think about SWB this year?

[@nicebarz215]

I almost deleted every build with all the unnecessary points on. Never knew I honestly don’t need it. I just make sure my speed is 80 or better.

[@kings1n]

2K is really a mess - we need to make tests on our own and search hours on how simple attributes are working or not - so swb to me as many other attributes feel weird to me 🤨🤣 - as a rec player and main ball handler it seems to make a difference - but honestly not extrem big as it seems.

[@sLyOnE_NYc]

Swb definitely matters if you're a ball handler running up court, if you have low swb and not doing crossovers up the court, you'll look very slow. Acceleration definitely works to if you do a speed boost dribble move, i have a 6'7 DMenace with 77 Acceleration and 34 BH and if i do a speed boost dribble move, he moves very fast, i also a 6'9 center with 27 swb and 62 Acceleration and he moves extensively slow after doing a speed boost dribble move. Its also matters much more if you can do the left stick cancel or L2 cancel, if you can do these dribble cheeses you can get away with it, if not, make swb with Acceleration builds... My comment is specifically about 5v5, i don't play park.

[@AvatarTrev6]

@@sLyOnE_NYci’m making a 6’8 with 79 acceleration and 62 SWB for bronze blow by. i think this build is gonna allow me to cook up fr

[@sLyOnE_NYc]

@@AvatarTrev6 You can cook of you can dribble cheese and use screens, but if you have a lock on you with 94 perimeter and 96 or 99 steal, its gonna be tough.

[@husslewestbrook3691]

The game is designed so badly that none of the attributes really matter, you only need em to unlock animations 🤦‍♂️

[@StickyFingerss]

Facts

[@cagedbeast9562]

Exactly why there are so many bad builds in the community

[@tresmoke4366]

animations are lowkey king in 2k tho

[@devindogg23]

@@tresmoke4366shouldn’t be. Should be a physics based game. Not so animation based, it’s about as bad as Madden 16.

[@tresmoke4366]

@@devindogg23 I agree but it's what it is 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@TheThinkingMansTemplar]

Crazy ppl don't know this stuff until the game basically finished for the year.. So a half court build doesn't need it basically

[@kingbanksss]

Yeah but u gon need speed wit ball for certain dribble styles

[@guts7518]

@@kingbanksss make it a guard and you get pro for free

[@realjoeroganjre]

Don’t need it for 1s or 2s.

[@SlimReapeer]

@@realjoeroganjrethis is a fact

[@realjoeroganjre]

@@SlimReapeer the cheese is you can make a iso 6’8 big man with ball handle and decent rebounding. For 2s. So both positions can iso lol.

[@waff6ix]

SPEED WIT BALL IS USELESS😮‍💨JUS LIKE ACCELERATION😮‍💨😮‍💨JUST LIKE A LOT OF STATS IN THIS GAME🤦🏾‍♂️💔💔

[@PerfectAwsomeChannel]

SWB largest impact is when it comes to getting a certain dribble style honestly. Either you’re going 40, 75, 83 or 90. There are a few in between points, but these are the Big 4.

[@PraiseThaDon]

It's crazy how attributes don't matter anymore. Ig anything to keep casual players in the game

[@willcfjackson5114]

Pls explain how this keeps casuals in the game 😂 casuals will be casuals regardless how the game is made or played

[@GokusLostSon]

Say it louder for the people in the back nothing matters anymore and everybody can shoot. Shit is terrible.

[@Brandonmv]

@@GokusLostSoni mean almost everybody in the NBA can shoot

[@HESY]

Imo it should be a way bigger difference because 25 has no speed booster and people with 83 or 75 do have it and it’s still barely a difference.

[@ironsharpensiron3215]

Low swb means I don’t gotta worry about the rim run soooo you not shooting either you fall for the bs if you want to

[@stephenmu3847]

You should hit on the higher jump shot release bases like Vince Carter and Rey Allen

[@dregamingz]

If you play 5s then speed with ball is VERY important. You’re not always speed boosting. If you’re playing 1s and 2s then it’s not as important. A bit more important for 3s.

[@RussianBeast93]

facts

[@kings1n]

I agree - I have not made a big test yet - but on full court low swb seems a bit slower actually. Tho I ask myself it will make a huge difference or not - but I think as the pg a low swb can bring you in stress situations

[@RussianBeast93]

@@kings1n defeinitely makes a difference on big builds as well. I have a big with a 40 SWB and faster attributes, he seems slower than my other big that has a 62 SWB and less speed attributes. That is with grabbing rebound and pushing up court.

[@himothy5719]

nah i made a 55 speed w ball build and honestly if u know how to get open you’re good

[@lgsxunl34sh3d5]

My guard has a 40 or 60 swb i dont remember but i avg 27 ppg in rec and 24 in pro am ive never noticed a difference besides running fastbreaks

[@botmonmon6089]

Nah yall always miss so many variables when you make these. For instance, (1.) The dribble styles, do a comparison with a high rating dribble style vs a lower one while comparing. (2.) The reference of being chased by an opponent. If he's 75 speed and your 99 swb, or if your a 80 does it make you faster or does it make him slower? Your ratings don't only affect you but also your opponents. If you played enough online, you know there are points when the game holds your movements back and doesn't let you make the play.

[@cxdengotnext]

made my build with a 53 swb and a 66 accel and still move just as fast on my 6'7

[@dxey8545]

I’m making my 6’7 just like this

[@kings1n]

On small courts yea - On full court there will be a difference - tho that acc tribute really seems broken

[@legacy1519]

My new build dominates even though it’s 75 speed

[@KaliweteKid]

You only need at least 85 ball handle, be a guard to get pro dribble style off rip and spam the john wall crossover and you won't notice the difference between 25 and 75 speed with ball

[@dueces510]

If you are playing 5s and not a master dribbler I feel like it's really annoying to go low. I went 60 for the minimum to still get 85 bh on my hash lock SG and I hate it at 30/40. I'm sometimes called on for 2BH and I'm not good enough to stick to moves where you can't notice it. But if you're a dribble god I don't think it matters. Going to prioritize upgrading it to 60 and see how it feels

[@brysoncandelaria7040]

Nah I have a 6’6 with 83 and 86 looks and feels so much faster. Remember Blow by, Speed Booster, and hyper drive affect this too.

[@thecupofbrew7955]

Those are badges that's a different conversion he's just talking the stat itself

[@halamadrid8355]

Tutes can you test 55 (minimum on 85BH) Compared to 75 (SB Silver) and 83 (SB Gold)

[@Marlow-yk7zj]

What makes you think it is only that glitchy left right that uses speed with ball? Why wouldn’t it apply to all dribble moves once your player is in motion and has taken two steps?

[@theyreruiningusa]

Has anyone in the comments actually played with different swb? Noticeable difference between 70s to 80s to 90s. Seems to matter in actual practice

[@nickjohnson2611]

Pretty much besides unlocking animations and badges.

[@mattprice302]

I need to see the use of the badge Blowby gives you went going around someone

[@slumeasyy838]

i iso with 40 speed with ball and 60 accel if you know how to move your just fine

[@abdurate5589]

its crazy i can jsut speed boost on my 6'8 big whenever my tm8 is clamped

[@ThinkingCap_]

Uhm does this test apply the badges you get from speed with ball too?

[@SBGMember]

I noticed that there seems to be a difference in shooting, when the speed with ball is higher, whenever i play mygm. And if you ever do a Steph Curry template build, the speed with ball is around 97, if. i am not mistaken. Have you done any research to find out if speed with ball affects shooting?

[@nba2ktutes]

Im afraid i won’t be able to test it but i’m really positive that speed with ball won’t affect shooting

[@DonBebo6]

A 50 SWB is surprisingly good asl for no reason

[@anthonyreed531]

Is it the same for myplayer

[@itsKels757]

Test yourselves ladies and gents. It’s a very noticeable difference 😂 even from 80 to 90. You’re not just running a straight line.

[@javis_too_fit9878]

2k is so bad it’s all a scam to keep buying vc like my 99 don’t feel like a 99. I really hope ea or some other basket ball company give 2k competition

[@Ok_Bud]

I made a player with 93 ball handling and 63 speed with ball to test out your theory and it is so hard to get open, feel like im walking in water. Mofos wont even give me the ball to bring it up the court once they see how slow i am. I might make an off ball player with no speed with ball, but if u wanna be able to create consistently then no speed with ball aint it.

[@chriswilliams2019]

Shit does not matter unless its a badge threshold other than that 70+ all feels the same and under 50 is noticeable just slow af

[@EternalFOE]

i just go with 83 swb i get all the badges i want accel is the same i go wot 73-76 i am the same speed as my otha guard build with 90 accel and 90 swb🤷🏾‍♂️ both have same speed at 90

[@teeboogiee504]

Yall say ts don’t matter til you have builds with different stats and feel the difference

[@itsdaejon]

Wish this was dropped in like September frfr 😂

[@mjrkidsvids7899]

So basically unless you are a PG bringing ball up the court a high SWB isnt imparative.

[@isiight.]

Yup. You just need 75 unless you are a shooting guard because for some reason shooting guards get pro dribble style automatically unlocked.

[@Himo_Thy]

I knew that attribute don’t matter when I made a center with 70 defensive rebounds and I still get rebounds over someone with 99 offensive rebounds.

[@SheWantsTheVic]

Just cuz you dont value what the stat does doesnt mean its a scam. It clearly does what its supposed to do

[@nicebarz215]

My newer build at SG has a 55 SWB and I cook in the Rec

[@kings1n]

Sure? I can literally see especially on rec when some gamers run with lower swb (lockd for example) - and on full court if you are main ball handler its seems to make a difference.

[@nicebarz215]

@@kings1n double tap turbo and I also hit upward left or right on the right analog. Smoking em on the fast break.

[@kings1n]

That works I guess … havent tried it yet, but I play mainly rec so I will make some tests I guess before making a low swb build … whats your acc? I guess low as well?

[@nicebarz215]

@@kings1nit’s a 66. I got a 85 steal. 96 driving dunk and 92 3 ball. I put the strength up cause of course perimeter defense is also broken.

[@sethbahlous9027]

@@nicebarz215thank you lol, swb doesn’t matter in that half court, and in the full court where it SHOULD matter you can just do a blowout dribble

[@justinblack9538]

I have to disagree here. In my league, I had a player drop from 85 swb to 71 and he is noticeably slower

[@jackripper5180]

Yeah. It’s mostly about the dribble styles you can use.

[@Hype2k23]

Nah that ish matters idc what y’all showing me I got a lot of builds and speed with ball matters big time !

[@bori1986]

I wouldn't say useless locks with 25 SWB is very noticable once I add 60+ u can see the difference

[@thecupofbrew7955]

That's because you're not investing in complimentary stats such as post control for unpluckable

[@spazzgokrazy3124]

Great video. But I honestly don’t care. I’m not having a low speed with ball because 2k messed up. A lot of badges tie to it. I know you can add to other attributes but it is what it is 😣

[@yungtato244]

Definitely need it for blow by and other badges to unlock but ok keep believing u don’t need so I lock that ahh up at the perimeter 🤣

[@Hype2k23]

Lmfao 😂 right ppl believe this and just go with it

[@ironsharpensiron3215]

🤦🏾‍♂️I’m glad I’m not the only that didn’t fall for this bs I got like five builds the ones with high Swb make getting to the rack a breeze

[@yungtato244]

@@ironsharpensiron3215 think of it like swb is the offense that counters speed on defense so if your swb is lower than h their speed your chances of getting stopped is higher as well

[@dxey8545]

For big guards go no speed with ball and 66-67 acceleration, you can make demigods, these attributes don’t matter if you just John wall across after you beat your defender

[@willcfjackson5114]

Hope that take that out the game next year. Ppl base their entire playstyle on that move and swear they’re good

[@bobbydahill840]

Ong 😂​@@willcfjackson5114

[@madeinnola]

LT cancel demons, definitely don’t need it

[@KeepingItJoah]

So hyperdrive or speed booster don’t do anything?

[@thecupofbrew7955]

No those badges are good, the stat itself does nothing alone

[@dantejones6482]

Y’all said the same thing about acceleration and honestly it helps lmao

[@almightysix9699]

That's why anybody can blow by anybody.

[@Paul-pf1ng]

3:25 mike says accel is used "for first few steps from dead stand" except tutes's video shows polar opposite. Shows mike has no fuckin clue what is happening in the game, realtime, only what should be happening.

[@NathanBall18]

I played my team the other day and started muggsy bogues cos i felt lile having a laugh. And it was like he was glitched he was the slowest on my team should of been one of the fastest

[@NathanBall18]

Makes me think they patched him cos he was remarkably slow either that or it was a c bad internet day

[@trentonveselka2018]

Does speed affect sbw?

[@3312ACE]

Speed is usually tied to off ball movement

[@yodavizion]

Tutes, thank you for all the updates , but it’s time to get off 2k and catch a body 👩🏼

[@Chris1200923]

how yk he not clappin cheeks cuh?

[@Bazuuca]

Made a godly build and gonna post it on my channel in a few days. Attributes 👇 Offensive heavy Guard 94 driving dunk 88 3pt 84 mid range 92 ball handle 85 steal 70 block 89 pass accuracy 65 Speed wit ball

[@DarrylDinero28]

Speed wit ball matters ‼️ in 5s fasho yall tweaking

[@Frenchie_The_Kid]

I think the niche to this SWB attribute is that if your player is able to combo up quickly and change directions simultaneously, SWB will make that player sustain SPEED while stamina goes down until point of red baring (fatigue) then you have to wait for bar to fill back up after using most or all of your turbo (R2) for SWB to maximize again in same possession… But of course the HIGHER the BETTER if you are a good iso-dribbler/playmaker ! But 75 SWB should still be efficient enough if you’re an off-ball guard (mostly) ! But bigs don’t necessarily need it unless you are a decent “Big Driver” ! If that makes sense !!

[@chrisper3148]

Makes no sense

[@MattAbbott]

👍

[@daroofficial9912]

that makes my build of no swb the best in game...6'6' with 94 dunk,92 three,92 bh,91 steal

[@KingAfrica4]

Your build is garbage

[@1andOnlyKB]

No my 6'7 hybrid lockdown defender is with 86 ball handle, 90 interior 94 perimeter 95 steal 87 block and 92 strength 💪

[@isiight.]

@@1andOnlyKBmissing out on hof immovable was a huge mistake.

[@1andOnlyKB]

@@isiight. gold clamps gold fast feet gold immovable with hof challenger does the job bro

[@1andOnlyKB]

@@isiight. I'm at the shooting guard position, couldn't get hof immovable at that position, most guards don't even put strength on their builds, I get bumpy bro

[@Troublex37]

This pure cap dawg

[@connorrussell8268]

I play mostly rec and SWB definitely matters

[@kingjeason]

This game is so Trash. How can you speedboost and than you run like someone holds your arm 🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@pepenavarro1981]

Nba 2k is a scam

[@jasonphillips1902]

If you’re a ball handler you 1 million percent need speed with ball if you do anything besides spam Jamal Murray. You’ll be so trash in full court you’ll delete the man😂

[@AdrianSimmonsJr.]

Lmaooooo yall go ahead and continue making builds with no speed with ball 😂. I don’t wanna hear no crying about how slow yall feel. I’ve played on plenty of builds and 100% it matters for the feel of the game

[@knd-tazzuchiha6467]

Second

[@femz4Real]

Third