My dad flew the Ball on a B-17 on 28 missions. Their plane was hit during dad's 28th mission. A 20mm shell from a Me-109 missed his turret by less then a foot, dad said it made a hole as big as a wash bucket. The same shell screwed up the oxygen system and dad had to come out of the turret. The pilot was bringing the plane down to a lower altitude so the crew could breath when either a wing tank blew or a burst of flak which made the whole left side of the just break apart from the rest of the plane. Dad and the left waist gunner just fell out of the plane. Dad had put on his parachute when he got out of the turret. Spent 11months and 1 day as a POW.
@joncrow32283 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing the amazing story! Glad your dad survived.
@rrosski3 жыл бұрын
He’s badass
@tonyhelliwell3213 жыл бұрын
My Dad flew in the Vengeance diver bomber as the rear gunner in Burma and later the Blackburn Roc dive bomber in the UK Coastal Command. Can you imagine being alive in a dive with a dead pilot, just waiting to crash..😶😳
@nathanle23763 жыл бұрын
My flew a plane too he flew a AC-47
@jimgouwens99303 жыл бұрын
Incredible! Thank you for this.
@AweEmperorofChickenKilling3 жыл бұрын
as cool as the ball turret is I'm glad I'll never have to operate one. Respect to the men who did
@hogdog514 жыл бұрын
Those brave men had balls bigger than the one they were in . Thank you for your service .
@Magallanes_3 жыл бұрын
@rum shot from Argentina thanks for all
@thinkablebaileylim61683 жыл бұрын
thaaaaaaaat’s why it was so cramped in there
@fredblonder78504 жыл бұрын
Weirdest ball-turret story I heard was of a B-17 returning across the English Channel. It collided with the plane above and hit the water. The pilot took it to full-throttle and got airborne again. The ball-turret gunner survived his brief underwater adventure.
@angerybigdaddy85414 жыл бұрын
Is that true?
@fredblonder78504 жыл бұрын
@@angerybigdaddy8541 I did not personally witness it, but I heard the story from a speaker at the Smithsonian, so I give it a fair amount of credibility.
@makeitsonumberone13584 жыл бұрын
Theres a story on you tube about the b17 that landed itself 👻 true story to.
@flyingfortressrc17942 жыл бұрын
Great video of my favorite Lady, The Yankee Lady.. When my Dad's 17 went down the ball turret gunner was able to get out of the ball after being badly wounded but died before he could bail out of the plane. The greatest generation for sure..
@DoomTrooperTV25 күн бұрын
I was a .50 cal gunner in Iraq on a Humvee. The .50 is a beast to operate, maintain, load and fire. Even in an open air turrent like i was. I cannot imagine operating TWO of them in an enclosed space like that. The lubricant and smoke that must have filled that turret was probably absolutely choking. Insane.
@geoffreyrichardson87382 жыл бұрын
Great editing, the still footage made it easy to appreciate what those brave boys put up with.
@1337fraggzb00N3 жыл бұрын
800 rounds and after that you just sit and pray. These men were heroes of their own kind.
@MajorCaliber11 ай бұрын
The waist gunners could reload you from above. ;')
@PlasmaCoolantLeak10 ай бұрын
I remember in my junior English class a poem called "The Death of the Ball Turret Gunner." I was the only student in the class who understood what happened to the gunner.
@GTOAviator4 жыл бұрын
You wanna talk about loud. Ears ringing after the first burst.
@joncrow32283 жыл бұрын
Yea! I’ve got plenty of experience firing the M2, and after every battle my ears felt like they were bleeding. I’ve also fired M4s in a tunnel, the confined space made it one of the loudest things I’ve ever heard. I can’t imagine firing 2 M2s in a confined space like that. No amount of hearing protection would negate the massive sound that must have produced.
@asafgl42814 жыл бұрын
That ball turret was a death sentence ... No armour, no parachute, if struck or gamed, or no one in crew can help him when plane out of control, that's the worst battle station...
@starguard41224 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Even worse than being a Tanker or Infantry Flamethrower
@asafgl42814 жыл бұрын
@@starguard4122 Infantry is best, u are so small and none main target, that you can all ways hide, play dead, in a case of tankers, that depends what position you are in which tank you are in...commander and gunner are most vulnerable, front of turret and commander are most likely to hit..
@jeffworcester13744 жыл бұрын
It was actually statistically the safest position on the ship due to the small cross section, albeit the most frightening.
@asafgl42814 жыл бұрын
@@jeffworcester1374 safe???? No armour...lot of flexiglass...if b17 was out of control, there is no way that any body will help him out , at the moment he need to traverse turret downward And some of crew to open hatch... Then climb through the tripod that holds instruments, get stand on deck Wearing the perechoot and then jump out from where he need to fight to reach out???? No way its safe position... Only if he had the choot inside wearing it , he would be need to traverse guns up , blow the hatch out and bailed out from ball turret directly... They didn't think about the soldier inside... Each one need to have a quick and safe way to bail out...allmost same story for upper turret, and tail gunner all the rest can go through the bomb bay door
@jeffworcester13744 жыл бұрын
@@asafgl4281 It was statistically the least deadly poition on the aircraft. This is not an opinion it is factual.
@dereksevers91873 жыл бұрын
How about that airplane what a beautiful piece of art that thing is gorgeous I bet you those engines sound awesome
@mikejordan82594 жыл бұрын
It's 70 Years too late but they should've made the Ball Turret so it could jettison with a Parachute.
@fredblonder78504 жыл бұрын
Agreed. That was the first thing I thought.
@alvaro23384 жыл бұрын
Mike Jordan .......and you can shoot 😎
@fredblonder78504 жыл бұрын
@@alvaro2338 You mean shoot stuff on the way down? What would the recoil do if you were dangling at the end of a parachute? You’d probably wind up spinning out of control.
@alvaro23384 жыл бұрын
Fred Blonder sorry Sir, it was a joke. A lot of respect for that guys.
@fredblonder78504 жыл бұрын
@@alvaro2338 I understand. In all seriousness though, it is infuriating that there was no proper ejection mechanism for the ball-turret. I’m thinking: put the ’chute in the space beneath the gunner’s knees. When he ejects, the turret shell splits apart and the chute deploys. There’s all sorts of details to be worked out regarding how far you allow it to fall before deploying, which would depend on your altitude and such.
@jackstrawwichita5714 жыл бұрын
My Grand Dad waz a B 17 pilot. General Jacob Edward Smart. He was shot down on his 26th mission coming of a bombing run on a Me-109 assembly plant over Venernustat. Austria. He survived.
@nathanjones1733 жыл бұрын
25 and you went home.
@MajorCaliber11 ай бұрын
@@nathanjones173 Probably have to go a bit "above and beyond" to be a General, eh wot? ;')
@MajorCaliber11 ай бұрын
Trying to zap those enemy fighters before they ever got off the ground--smart.
@dr.z16573 жыл бұрын
3:40 😳 Imagine being told over the radio that they’re sorry, but you were going to die upon landing...and then having to _wait for it_ as you watched the ground close in. Makes it even more egregious that the USAAF proceeded to do _nothing_ with the patent & royalty rights they stole/confiscated from Preston Tucker for his electrically powered, remote controlled gun turret. I guess I can understand it perhaps not being feasible to make these turrets ‘jettisonable’ due to over-complexity, or armored due to weight, but it seems kinda inexcusable that they didn’t at least provide these brave gunners with a freakin’ parachute. With the low position on the fuselage and the aft-facing hatch, it definitely would have been possible for them to bailout in an emergency. That, or they could have easily designed in a secondary, emergency hatch at the bottom that would allow the gunner to be ejected whilst still strapped to the seat.
@rohncarver35853 жыл бұрын
not sure if my comment makes much sense but, I have not seen that video mentioned with the ball turret gunner, though I doubt I'd fit in one back when they were in use; I'm surprised they didn't have some kind of dead man's drop option where you could just flat out detach the whole ball just let the thing drop. may be suicide since its harder to get out or you'd be bouncing around like crazy upon your flight crews emergency landing, I would take that option over being ground to death under an aircraft though.
@heroicaknight47353 жыл бұрын
They wouldn't fit with a parachute on. If they made the turret bigger, it would probably mess with the plane's aerodynamics, be too expensive, and, most importantly, present a larger target for the enemy. So it was really a lose-lose situation for the guys who got in there.
@CurtisDrew12 жыл бұрын
Often wondered why they didn't just make the ball turrent jettisionable and put some parachute ring attachments on the turrent. That way the gunner could be dropped while still in the ball but have a parachute to lower him somewhat saflely. At least giving him a chance! Of course being dropped off the plane over water would be a big drawback... The B 36's had remote controlled turrents IIRC.
@MajorCaliber11 ай бұрын
4 peeps, incl. the OP, who are telling us they are NOT Mechanical Engineers, without actually saying it. The ball-turret gunners DID have a personal parachute, but many could not fit inside the ball whilst wearing it. Though many BT gunners died, in obviously horrible ways, it was, in FACT, the safest position on both B-17 and B-24.
@glynmatthews66973 жыл бұрын
More fortunate if you were in the B-24 Liberatror- it had a retractable ball turret on some variants .
@dennisaston3551 Жыл бұрын
That must have been quite the experience when firing. Twin 50’s right next to your head
@Sidekick_Snowman11 ай бұрын
WHAT'D YOU SAY?? EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
@deltacomet52033 жыл бұрын
One of my friend’s grandparents was a ball turret gunner. Must have been terrifying.
@robtankbuster52154 жыл бұрын
Wow that was some brave men!
@gregorywelk33443 жыл бұрын
Love your syntax
@BCboy653 жыл бұрын
Much prefer the ball turret on the B-24! It was retractable!!
@thomasmerriett42884 жыл бұрын
Makes me glad I'm a big guy, cuz my big ass wouldn't even attempt to get in that thing. Be like trying to get a 10lb ham into a 5lb bag.
@yanni21122 жыл бұрын
I'm 5'6" I probably would have got the Duty
@raymondyee20083 жыл бұрын
Memories of “Memphis Belle” the movie come to mind.
@tylerbonser76863 жыл бұрын
Well done. Thanks
@starguard41224 жыл бұрын
and to think that if he got killed, once the plane landed, the ground crew would wash out his remains with a hose
@MajorCaliber11 ай бұрын
That was just a poem... don't get carried away. ;')
@Br4m764 жыл бұрын
0:55 like a baby in the womb.
@robertcampbelljr.31954 жыл бұрын
That's the ALUMINUM OVERCAST!!!
@jeffworcester13744 жыл бұрын
Indeed. At Oshkosh.
@mrshadow51324 жыл бұрын
Im getting hit by claustrofhobia
@Imnotyourdoormat3 жыл бұрын
great video... although cramped the Boeing manual recommended 6'2 as the height limit for the ball turret.
@desertdragon23973 жыл бұрын
Whew. Balls. The ball turret gunners had big ones.
@0p0364 жыл бұрын
Can't see there in Japan.I'm so jealous!
@ciberthej4 жыл бұрын
You can see some B-29’s in action in Japan.
@GrayWolf-pv5uj4 жыл бұрын
自分もこのボール銃塔めっちゃ好きです!日本でも見れるといいんですがね〜… I love the ball turret too! I wish I could see one here in Japan...
@0p0364 жыл бұрын
@@GrayWolf-pv5uj ですね~
@jameswoolley74213 жыл бұрын
ONE GOOD THING OF THE BALL TURRET, THERE WAS MORE ARMOR PLATTING THERE THAN ANYWHERE ELSE ON THE PLANE SO I WAS TOLD.
@your_royal_highness3 жыл бұрын
I would be terrified to get in one
@tonycerino96453 жыл бұрын
Tough guys back then!! There's no way I'd get in there..
@ricardoleyton491310 ай бұрын
Cuando veremos la serie de los pilotos de los aviones B-17 MASTER OF THE AIR.?? ..de los productores de la serie belica BANDA DE HERMANOS..
@Yeeter_Inbound4 жыл бұрын
Was this at oshkosh? I was there last year and I remember seeing this b17!
@jeffworcester13743 жыл бұрын
Yes, 2019.
@pattykuvshin3 жыл бұрын
Those things were designed to be operated by Hobbits
@AngeliqueKaga3 жыл бұрын
That airplane was likely too get you home, even if damaged and flying on two engines.
@Scottocaster66683 жыл бұрын
A clostrophobics worst nightmare
@stephenpowell59122 жыл бұрын
That's what is discribed as Claustrophobic,Such a tragedy for those Ball Turret Gunners Stuck in this confined space all on their own trying to fend off Enemy Fighter planes to The Freezing cold Temperatures if this got hit , Appreciate those brave heroes of The greatest Generation who flew this bomber but felt for the poor souls stuck in the Speery Ball Turret.R I P to those who died in Combat stuck in this confined space 😪🙏💔
@bratskienozi4 жыл бұрын
Тяжело ему там было. Крутой мужик.
@Datadog-17 күн бұрын
The triggers actually both fire both guns
@davehorwath7632 жыл бұрын
Must have been freezing!
@sophiemilton59393 жыл бұрын
What, they could not make this turret in a way that left the gunner outside the ball? Sat above it and shooting through a periscope type arrangement? Then they could have made the ball smaller and more aerodynamic too. - I know the optics would have taken some working out but even so ......... Getting into that thing looks like a death-sentence to me. I salute the brave men who did get into it and thank them for the freedom I have enjoyed.
@marka54783 жыл бұрын
The periscopically aimed turrets, like the early B-25 and the RAF's Lancasters were not easy to use. If the sighting station was located in the fuselage, adjacent to the turret, it would have been easier to operate, and safer.
@e.conboy42863 жыл бұрын
But remember, this was state of the art in that day. Production line rolling them out at one a day! My aunt was a riveter, no kidding. Hayes International in Birmingham, Al.. women couldn’t wear slacks or pants at the time. Unbelievable, isn’t it
@MajorCaliber11 ай бұрын
Those type of remote-operated "periscope" guns were all over the B-29, but that came *much later* in the war. REMEMBER: America's involvement in WW2 lasted exactly as long as you spent in high-school--only 3 years and 9 months... try to GROK how much industry was re-purposed overnight, how much new technology was invented, tested, and brought to MASS PRODUCTION in UNbelievably short time frames! 😵💫😳😳😳😱😱
@jaredlewis43 жыл бұрын
what airshow was this one at ?
@radicaljellybean26723 жыл бұрын
Imagine having to automatic .50 Cals near your EARS 😬👂💥
@niltonreis60933 жыл бұрын
Show !!!
@babuzzard64702 жыл бұрын
At 6ft 6ins I don’t think I’d fit very well, kudos to those brave gunners.
@salamburhan86172 жыл бұрын
هذا الي يخلوا هنا . يعتبر انتحاري .
@indonesianstreetfood46433 жыл бұрын
Keren gaez
@brianpayne45493 жыл бұрын
At over 6 foot tall, I’m comfortable in saying I’d never be a ball turret gunner… lol
@THOMAS01ify4 жыл бұрын
Just the noise you had to of been absolutely def .
@asafgl42813 жыл бұрын
What would happen in plane shot down and gunner must get out???
@e.conboy42863 жыл бұрын
Wouldn’t be pretty.
@user-rh9ph6dx7gАй бұрын
👍
@stephenbowden38272 жыл бұрын
My dad was a ball turret gunner. I didn’t appreciate what he’d been through until I was far into adulthood. Thanks to all who served fighting fascism. He’d be appalled by trump et al.
@anthonycastro83643 жыл бұрын
Ohhh hell no.. all jus shot out the side window with my 1911 at the planes
@Thunderdragons30264 жыл бұрын
I am to big
@PSTX52102 жыл бұрын
We are a nation of children compared to those guys
@dave28084 жыл бұрын
I'm too big
@alvaro23384 жыл бұрын
Juicebox95 lol ..... me too
@dave28084 жыл бұрын
@@alvaro2338 I may be skinny but being 6'2" has it's disadvantages
@alvaro23384 жыл бұрын
Juicebox95 ........the side position is better for you bud......
@dave28084 жыл бұрын
@@alvaro2338 that's if I can even fit on the plane to begin with. Infantry would've better for me
@alvaro23384 жыл бұрын
Juicebox95 then we are going to carry M240s Bravo in the infantry , lol, see u bud!
@Mephistopholies2 жыл бұрын
One of the top five worst places to be in WWll.
@stephenpowell59122 жыл бұрын
Agreed 💔🙏😪
@SuperLuminalElf4 жыл бұрын
NOPE
@chriselms69722 жыл бұрын
Those belt guards were not invented back then it was exposed belt fed so not sure why they made that edition. That’s very modern
@MajorCaliber11 ай бұрын
NOT true... modifications come fast and furious during a hot war. Version 1.0 of this Sperry ball turret had the ammo cans INside the already cramped ball!... later on they went to the EXternal ammo cans and slick feed system seen here. Similarly, early B-17s had both waist gunners exactly the same distance from the tail, BUT... this left the 2 waist-gunners bumping ass and generally getting in each other's way, SO... Boeing Engineers (and hand-drawing Draftsmen) quickly came up with the *staggered* arrangement seen on most surviving B-17s... (and added some armor plate to protect them from the solar-plexus down)...
@vizslaerick88502 жыл бұрын
👎commercials
@glynmatthews66973 жыл бұрын
More fortunate if you were in the B-24 Liberatror- it had a retractable ball turret on some variants .