Spice: I Wouldn't Say I'm The Female Dancehall GOAT [HEATED DEBATE] | The Fix Podcast

In this podcast clip, the Fix crew along with Big Trap talk Spice's comments on the greatest female dancehall artistes of all time and debate gender biases in the genre
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[@makstaz79]

Lady Saw is the G.O.A.T ! Argument done!

[@ruddiato]

Lady saw is still the top artist

[@randolphlee3967]

Lady g is 1 of the few female artiste, who don't sell dem soul fi reach farrrr ...🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@XavHew]

Lady G can deejay better than 95% of them…. #facts

[@garryisaac5546]

Patra, Lady saw, Tanya, spice

[@CDKFACTORY]

Queen diamond #5

[@blackbway]

Lady G was one of the baddest at one point. There was a time when she was the only female artist carrying dancehall, and she never sold out to slackness.

[@90sdancehallkid40]

None no bad like Lady G not even Saw

[@donovanmartin494]

@@garryisaac5546 Diana King, Patra, Spice then lady saw. They have more SOLO accolades than lady saw.

[@aceking9x]

Most consistent female artist pice

[@donovanmartin494]

Spice and Diana King have the most SOLO accolades in the history of Jamaican Music. No other female Jamaican female artist are in their league when it comes to SOLO ACCOLADES. Spice has all the merits a dancehall queen should have. A number #1 reggae album on billboard, the most albums to enter billboard as a female dancehall artist in the history of Jamaican music and since the chart’s existence. Including an album entry on a non reggae album chart on billboard. She is the first hardcore female dancehall artist to earn a SOLO Grammy nomination for their own body of work in the history of Jamaican music. Lady saw solo accolades barely exist. She doesn’t have the solo accolades to walk near Spice. Lady saw doesn’t even have a #1 reggae album on billboard, 7 of 10 of her albums failed to debut on billboard reggae albums. Lady saw lied about being a triple platinum selling artist for 2 decades only for it to be revealed that Her song with No doubt “Underneath It All” only sold GOLD IN THE US March 2021 and Platinum July 2023. It took 22 years to earn platinum status. So she was platinum NOTHING before then. Her only SOLO accolades she has to her name are her 3 billboard reggae albums entries, and a non reggae song and album entry on billboard. She accomplished nothing major on her own or that Spice didn’t as a SOLO ACT. Only 3 of 10 of Lady Saw albums debuted on billboard reggae albums chart for a “Queen.” All her major achievements came from her collab with no doubt and vitamin c. She doesn’t have the solo accolades nor has she broke glass ceilings on her own in the way Spice has internationally to still be referred to as the Queen of dancehall in today’s day…

[@peledon5965]

We understand wat u saying....but just listen to eat spice saying...ok

[@prettirichbich2661]

Lady Saw is UNTOUCHED. Spice Is a great dance hall artiste but she has no TIMELESS music. U can't play spice at home on a Sunday(family day) with your kids.

[@Jazminedollstar]

That’s all lady saw has. Lady saw barely has any solo achievements. Speak for yourself. I personally love old school spice. It’s timeless for me and her fans.

[@Bestieofficial876]

But can you play lady saw on a Sunday? Lady is a legend yes but spice had several hits classic and achievement. Spice badda than last saw and lady saw afraid of spice cause the other day she was trying when spice was suppose to perform at grooming in the park.

[@Jazminedollstar]

@@Bestieofficial876 mek dem Gwan chat

[@starro99]

Good answer spice , glad she wasn’t like Beenie man

[@donovanmartin494]

@@starro99 what did beenie man say? 😂😂😂

[@Shysta30]

Lady Saw, Lady G, Tanya Stephens, sister Nancy and Patra

[@yjsit]

Mumma Saw is the greatest female to pick up the mic. It’s not a debate to me.

[@keenodella4497]

Lif up from yah cause sea saw never did most of what spice did and doing

[@shevawnwalton9952]

No😂😂😂😂😂

[@donovanmartin494]

@@yjsit Name 10 lady saw SOLO accolades? She doesn’t even have a #1 reggae album on billboard. All her greatest achievements are shared. She broke no glass ceilings alone or done anything that no female hasn’t as an SOLO ACT. She has 10 albums and only 4 has charted on billboard. None of her solo songs have sold in any market anywhere in the world. She was never a triple platinum selling artist. Underneath it all just sold gold in the US March 2021 and platinum July 2023.

[@PotentialDakaraii]

Guh Nyam sheet and gweh. lol Lady saw cannot be the greatest. Her contribution was awesome, but there’s no way she’s the greatest. Spice have broken way more grounds than her. Yet still she said she’s not the best. Spice have way passed them, but she’s humble. Spice represent way beyond what all the others have done and she’s still doing it.

[@donovanmartin494]

@@PotentialDakaraii lady saw does not have any SOLO major success compared to Spice. I bet they still think she’s a triple platinum selling artist.

[@CDKFACTORY]

Law saw #1

[@streetkeekstv]

Like the end of this video buss the artists yes✊🏾Ari handled this conversation well but Naro was moving tight 😂 he is right with that 1 point, ladies need to support there own more but it’s defo a difference with women in the industry.

[@patrickwynter2820]

Lady saw in a class by her self she is still the queen of dancehall

[@donovanmartin494]

@@patrickwynter2820 lady saw is in no class by herself

[@donovanmartin494]

@@patrickwynter2820 Name 10 lady saw SOLO accolades? She doesn’t even have a #1 reggae album on billboard. All her greatest achievements are shared. She broke no glass ceilings alone or done anything that no female hasn’t as an SOLO ACT. She has 10 albums and only 4 has charted on billboard. None of her solo songs have sold in any market anywhere in the world. She was never a triple platinum selling artist. Underneath it all just sold gold in the US March 2021 and platinum July 2023.

[@kamariiikem5552]

@@donovanmartin494period!!!!

[@feelgoodchef]

Remember women support male artist more than female artist also.

[@adale2771]

Lady saw is the GREATEST without a doubt, and still the true dancehall queen, no question about it!

[@iradoh1]

I think you would have to split up the categories. Personally I believe Tanya Stephens is hands down the best writer. Maybe there’s some more ghost writers that might not be getting the recognition, but Tonya’s the writing Goat

[@bossanmac1]

Whether we like it or not……Patra, Lady Saw, Lady G, sister Nancy, Tanya Stephenson, Spice, and Macka Diamond are the female dancehall goats.

[@user-um7fx4ew6k]

Patra is the most accomplished. Honorable mention Shelly Thunder

[@AlvarangaBH]

I just think it's difficult for us to compare the ladies cause spice is current I feel like she has social media which is a big asset to her and her career vs patra, sis Nancy, who knows if spice could survive with all this assistance she has now, so how can we compare the ladies success....maybe me wrong still😢😢

[@steveblackwood704]

I personally can't believe how lady Gs name is not mentioned more in these conversations Research her young people Blessings

[@orlandowolfe5727]

Spice is the greatest gossiper of all times

[@donovanmartin494]

And hardest worker

[@deanduncan7547]

One goat and a mumma shaw

[@TerrenceHall-j7g]

Lady saw are the all time greatest ❤

[@daworldthroughmyeyez5655]

How did this guy make it on the podcast… the question is about Goat and he is talking about current

[@washbelly264]

exactly.. him nuh have a clue abt music history

[@CDKFACTORY]

Him say him nah know patra😢

[@darylcastro3428]

Correct mi never respond for this podcast waste of time steups them does talk a pack of rubbish

[@donovanmartin494]

@@daworldthroughmyeyez5655 you made the young’s rate spice and acknowledge her contributions to dancehall music? Naro and Ari can’t even mention 5 or 10 solo accolades of every female dancehall artist. This is a topic they should leave alone. I notice a lot of people are misinformed and information is outdated when it comes to spice accoldes. Spice and Diana King have the most SOLO accolades in the history of Jamaican Music. No other female Jamaican female artist are in their league when it comes to SOLO ACCOLADES. Spice has all the merits a dancehall queen should have. A number #1 reggae album on billboard, the most albums to enter billboard reggae albums chart as a female dancehall artist in the history of Jamaican music and since the chart’s existence. Including an album entry on a non reggae album chart on billboard. She is the first hardcore female dancehall artist to earn a SOLO Grammy nomination for their own body of work in the history of Jamaican music. Lady saw solo accolades barely exist. She doesn’t have the solo accolades to walk near Spice. Lady saw doesn’t even have a #1 reggae album on billboard, 7 of 10 of her albums failed to debut on billboard reggae albums. Lady saw lied about being a triple platinum selling artist for 2 decades only for it to be revealed that Her song with No doubt “Underneath It All” only sold GOLD IN THE US March 2021 and Platinum July 2023. It took 22 years to earn platinum status. So she was platinum NOTHING before then. Her only SOLO accolades she has to her name are her 3 billboard reggae albums entries, and a non reggae song and album entry on billboard. She accomplished nothing major on her own or that Spice didn’t as a SOLO ACT. Only 3 of 10 of Lady Saw albums debuted on billboard reggae albums chart for a “Queen.” All her major achievements came from her collab with no doubt and vitamin c. She doesn’t have the solo accolades nor has she broke glass ceilings on her own in the way Spice has internationally to still be referred to as the Queen of dancehall in today’s day.

[@user-ri1nx7zb5y]

Lady saw don’t have big shows in foreign countries!

[@Nashywiththevybz]

ARI IS 100% right!!!

[@DiedrePersaud]

Bam Bam by Sister Nancy is also a sample from an older male group. Shows how much you guys know.

[@TheFixJA]

Nobody disputed that. The point is that her version has been sampled a great deal by various artistes over the years.

[@user-um7fx4ew6k]

There is always a know it all in every crowd ​@@TheFixJA

[@DiedrePersaud]

@@user-um7fx4ew6k yes unknown commenter representing the fix. Oh please.

[@DiedrePersaud]

@@TheFixJA can’t dispute what you don’t know nor acknowledge. I see what you did there though.

[@joshuaxlucas]

Sister Nancy, Patra & Lady Saw name haffi call first. Big up Spice though. Big up Shenseea as well.

[@AmandaQuest-fr9eu]

Naro have me weak 😂

[@quentonwatson6811]

ONE SAW

[@leroyhamilton3705]

Lady saw the best

[@rastaskate4546]

There should be no list without Lady G!

[@yardbeattv.5508]

lady G remember the 4 the hard way clash she destroy Patra . sister Charmain and 2 two more

[@bankergeorge]

Them young

[@traceymiller6700]

I think the guest should do his due diligence to do the research. As Ari stated dancehall is a male dominated institution. Females like Lady Saw, Patra, Lady G, Sister Nancy, Tanya Stephens. I think Dancehall doesn’t do enough to preserve the ladies legacy.

[@Badcharge333]

Kmt no one touch muma saw she is untouchable, spice knows

[@donovanmartin494]

@@Badcharge333 what makes her untouchable? What are her SOLO accolades? Achieved on her own?

[@Badcharge333]

@@donovanmartin494 too much to explain she is the goat top Gee

[@jamesgang2682]

@fix I hope you highlight Spice accolades please.

[@shantellmccallum3079]

Unpopular opinion Tanya Stephens’ versatility is unmatched

[@aaronbacchus7785]

Fully sfree she answer right and she is 1 of 👸🏾

[@kamariiikem5552]

Spice has achieved more than even lady saw and even now, more known, globally! In my eyes, she’s the greatest and most known female dancehall artist globally!

[@donovanmartin494]

@@kamariiikem5552 thank you!! Especially with solo accolades!!

[@mrandersonrich]

Cecile up deh too

[@streetdisciple30]

Lady saw..lady G...Queen Africa...spice

[@venomsupe]

Name 3 solo hit songs spice do?

[@orlandowolfe5727]

She done even have a catalog

[@donovanmartin494]

SO MI LIKE IT (that’s about to sell gold in the US and is now eligible for certification in Canada), FIGHT OVER MAN, JIM SCHREEHIE. Anything else?? Name a SOLO song for lady saw that has sold in the US UK OR CANADA or any market 30 years later???? All now!

[@venomsupe]

@donovanmartin494 you and I both know Jim screechi was not a hit song stop it kmt

[@venomsupe]

@@donovanmartin494 lady saw went on multiple billboard charts in an era when you couldn't fake streams. Stop the foolishness bredrin

[@donovanmartin494]

@@venomsupe lady saw has 10 albums and only 4 charted billboard. She barely has any solo accoldes or solo success. Everything is jointly shared. She went on multiple billboard charts with help. With her catalog she should have more solo success without a need for a collaboration.

[@yardbeattv.5508]

Lady G need to be considered

[@jahlee5422]

@makstaz79 right deso it deh, Argument BBC done.

[@marqcollins1792]

Spice is a longtime dancehall queen

[@user-ri1nx7zb5y]

Lady G !

[@kinghiggins5021]

I hate when people don't study history of dancehall music por excuse KZbin is there

[@NkNk-vg8fc]

LADY SAW ALWAYS N FOREVER 🌹

[@SPICEDHQ]

Spice is the goat that's nothing to debate

[@user-kp1bi3yx2j]

So why when ladies buss none a dem female friends don't become a producer to make a change????

[@donovanmartin494]

Spice can claim greatest of all time top3. When you do you research and look up each female’s SOLO ACHIEVEMENTS it will be clear that Diana king, Patra and Spice are the greatest females of all times. Lady saw is not a triple platinum selling artist. She lied this entire time when it took her song with No Doubt - Underneath it all 22 years to earn certification in the US. It just sold platinum July 2023 and gold March 2021.

[@tatiana3547]

Exactly. Spice numbers and achievements are incredible

[@SPayde876]

@@tatiana3547 tell us her two biggest achievements?

[@tatiana3547]

@@SPayde876 google is free.

[@axesaw5081]

Lady Saw is the Greatest

[@djgenius626]

Lady saw, lady G, spice,

[@DionPhillip]

Don't forget laddy G

[@kinghiggins5021]

I love lady patra

[@user-ju1bf2hm4l]

Vanessa bling really good female artist and good performer too💥💥💥

[@jelanibrowne5617]

Spice is the greatest female danchall artist..some people just bias simple

[@jasondouglas8458]

Hi Ari my wife to be 😂🥰 happy to see you don’t go missing on me like that again no notice either😢

[@JermyGreenway]

One queen a lady saw. Check her catalog

[@paradoxr.n.o8688]

Lady saw is the goat no need to complain about that

[@aceking9x]

Pice is easily the goat name in a every year the other ladies on and off

[@90sdancehallkid40]

What year Spice buss?

[@donovanmartin494]

@@90sdancehallkid40 when you buss? Comment section yuh inna

[@donovanmartin494]

@@aceking9x they can’t name 10 lady saw SOLO accolades. She doesn’t even have a #1 reggae album on billboard. All her greatest achievements are shared. She broke no glass ceilings alone or done anything that no female hasn’t as an SOLO ACT. She has 10 albums and only 4 has charted on billboard. None of her solo songs have sold in any market anywhere in the world. She was never a triple platinum selling artist. Underneath it all just sold gold in the US March 2021 and platinum July 2023.

[@90sdancehallkid40]

@@donovanmartin494 Name me 10 Spice solo accolades?

[@donovanmartin494]

@@90sdancehallkid40 sure. After you name me lady saw’s 10. I’ll be waiting.

[@donovanmartin494]

Who’s the guest?

[@ganjafarmer1572]

Sister Nancy. Never haffi chat bout her kitty fi mek it. Very few females @ the time Lady G close second . Young people only know young artists

[@ollo3rofficial644]

Man ago always want woman innu that nah go stop. If female want to bridge the gap then they need to become producers, engineers, managers and so forth but you tend to realize woman nuh really want to do those jobs so a man ago hold the gate. Not to bash women but they always seem to want the result without doing what it actually takes to get it most of the time. Big them up still cause if mi nuh say that them might want to attack mi base on how this social media thing go

[@greathieghts3314]

Jada fanbase name kmab (kingdom mab)

[@chineryd3055]

Mumma saw run out of church

[@giovanniscott7853]

Lady G can deejay better than most a them Tanya is the greatest to hold a pen place it on a paper and then to the mic. Spice not even have a house hold dancehall songs up to this day.

[@DiedrePersaud]

Spice was trying her hardest not be on some cocky shit 😂😂😂

[@FernandoHamilton-kq6zb]

Why you people always trying to bring down Spice and she still a lead presently

[@Godsentvvvv]

​@@FernandoHamilton-kq6zbLead where, which song spice have that running the place?

[@DiedrePersaud]

@@FernandoHamilton-kq6zb who tf is bringing her down??

[@donovanmartin494]

@@Godsentvvvv Spice doesn’t have to have a song to run the place right now. Spice is a dancehall LEGEND! Who has zero the game. So kindly F off!!

[@DaleDanny]

Spice lifestyle too duty fi a represent the Jamaican people

[@sherradgordon]

Lady saw is the Greatest. That romantic call song that Ari sang was stolen from Lady Saw

[@bamarahmusic8733]

No its from patra

[@donovanmartin494]

@@sherradgordon it was not stolen. If you read the description of the music video done by Spice. It clearly said the song was done to pay HOMAGE to all the women in dancehall who came before spice. Spice samples dawned Penn, sister Nancy, patra, Althea and Donna in that same “romantic mood” song. You people only know negativity so the homage went over your heads.

[@sherradgordon]

@donovanmartin494 ok you lack knowledge and or understanding. The song I AM ON A ROMANTIC CALL by Patra was stolen from l Lady Saw. How or why are you mentioning Spice I am clueless

[@janofoster8299]

How in a mus and don't knw patra

[@jamesgang2682]

KMob

[@reggaenix]

Lady G? 😢

[@donovanmartin494]

Name 10 lady saw SOLO accolades? She doesn’t even have a #1 reggae album on billboard. All her greatest achievements are shared. She broke no glass ceilings alone or done anything that no female hasn’t as an SOLO ACT. She has 10 albums and only 4 has charted on billboard. None of her solo songs have sold in any market anywhere in the world. She was never a triple platinum selling artist. Underneath it all just sold gold in the US March 2021 and platinum July 2023. She lied this entire time claiming platinum status. If spice had lied about something like that we wouldn’t hear the end of it.

[@DaleDanny]

So Whose your Goat

[@darylcastro3428]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@andrewzola5496]

You still a call that name

[@sheldon3550]

Arri THE WORDS FROM YOUR MOUTH DEFILE YOUR BODY AND IF YOU NOTICE WHEN WOMEN CLASH THEY GOES UNDER EACH OTHER

[@kinghiggins5021]

Lady saw goat

[@badmarshall5556]

The guest can come dung now...he dont know who is Lady Patra??? And seh they do music?

[@truebornafrican9213]

When did Spice get to America and has forgotten her Jamaican patois already !!!

[@donovanmartin494]

Yuh lie yf

[@truebornafrican9213]

@@donovanmartin494 you too dumb to see that .. obviously you are shallow minded

[@truebornafrican9213]

@@donovanmartin494 good back and look at the clip as she’s not the first one …

[@donovanmartin494]

@@truebornafrican9213 spice the only female stay true too her roots & talk about Jamaica more than she promote herself.

[@sheldon3550]

At the end of the day MARION HALL/LADY SAW is the greatest ever,, her longevity her stage craft her songs with keep on dominate the scene just like beenie and bounty

[@donovanmartin494]

What are her solo accoldes?

[@donovanmartin494]

@@sheldon3550 Name 10 lady saw SOLO accolades? She doesn’t even have a #1 reggae album on billboard. All her greatest achievements are shared. She broke no glass ceilings alone or done anything that no female hasn’t as an SOLO ACT. She has 10 albums and only 4 has charted on billboard. None of her solo songs have sold in any market anywhere in the world. She was never a triple platinum selling artist. Underneath it all just sold gold in the US March 2021 and platinum July 2023.

[@garyhundred7275]

That yute really talking about who he see Now a joke like the goat mean of all time now who’s active and hot now go do some research before your comment on certain things or just say you don’t know

[@123kjaah]

Ari a talk foolishness... Women were never forced to be a certain. Dancehall is a tough rough-and-tumble business nuff can't sustain the pressure...

[@NicotineRosberg]

Breda I can't name 10 Spice song

[@Godsentvvvv]

Spice fall off to me, spice not going on with nothing

[@donovanmartin494]

Spice is allowed to fall off. She has done 25 years in a male dominated business. She’s suppose to be hot for 30 years? Where’s her peers who started out with her? Dem fall off doh?

[@lovezone128]

1 Lady Saw 2 Lady G the rest average when it come to hit songs , Macka , Tanya and Vanessa Bling have the most hits otherwise from the top two .

[@biskitbandit9994]

This show don’t know nothing about dancehall music look at the names they mention no female pass lady saw on the local scene are international scene she is the is the goat do some research before u talk on a topic

[@donovanmartin494]

@@biskitbandit9994 Name 10 lady saw SOLO accolades? She doesn’t even have a #1 reggae album on billboard. All her greatest achievements are shared. She broke no glass ceilings alone or done anything that no female hasn’t as an SOLO ACT. She has 10 albums and only 4 has charted on billboard. None of her solo songs have sold in any market anywhere in the world. She was never a triple platinum selling artist. Underneath it all just sold gold in the US March 2021 and platinum July 2023.

[@venomsupe]

@@donovanmartin494 dawg you under every reply a bash saw, how much spice a pay you? 😆

[@donovanmartin494]

@@venomsupe bash or facts? Facts

[@biskitbandit9994]

@@donovanmartin494 you name one from spice lady saw have billboards hot100 solo song and Grammy name one female artist have that on their resume in dancehall go do your research

[@kirkbanton9181]

Hear the accent. SHE IS NOT.

[@sean81]

Spice nuh 1/4 of what Lady Saw did. She a live offa LAHH hype n nuh knw seh a use dem a use her. Lady Saw all the way...Wha Spice do ?

[@lorenagonzales8394]

I know you are a spice hater but take a minute out of your time and research what you just said and let me know what is lady saw achievements on her own and don't tell me about no doubt album

[@bamarahmusic8733]

​@lorenagonzales8394 u need to do your research on this topic cause spice nuh bigger dan saw internationally

[@90sdancehallkid40]

@@lorenagonzales8394girl go 1 side…How dare you try size up Pice to a Lady Saw!?!?That why mi no phuck lil gal enuh…Just born

[@lorenagonzales8394]

@@bamarahmusic8733 let's talk about there achievements first then we can elaborate on other topics

[@donovanmartin494]

What are lady saw solo accoldes? It’s been 30 plus years not one solo song or lead collaboration for lady saw has sold in the US, UK or Canadian market. Lady saw has 10 albums and only 3 enter billboard reggae albums chart. I’ve got her man charted on a billboard singles chart and one album outside of reggae. Other than that her solo accolades do not exist. Spice has the most charted entries on billboard reggae albums chart since the charts existence as a female dancehall artist including an entry on billboard heatseekers albums chart. None of lady saw’s body of work was nominated for a Grammy. Her major career defining accolades are all from collaborations but they’re out here speaking on Spice as if Lady Saw broke some major glass ceilings on her own without having to climb on No Doubt’s or vitamin C’s back. 🥱 She doesn’t have the solo accolades to walk near Spice. She got away with claiming to be a triple platinum selling artist for 2 decades only for it to be revealed that Underneath It All just reached platinum status 22 years after it’s released. No doubt’s album milestone never applied to her.

[@donovanmartin494]

It’s been 30 plus years not one solo song or lead collaboration for lady saw has sold in the US, UK or Canadian market. Lady saw has 10 albums and only 3 enter billboard reggae albums chart. I’ve got her man charted on a billboard singles chart and one album outside of reggae. Other than that her solo accolades do not exist. Spice has the most charted entries on billboard reggae albums chart since the charts existence as a female dancehall artist including an entry on billboard heatseekers albums chart. None of lady saw’s body of work was nominated for a Grammy. Her major career defining accolades are all from collaborations but they’re out here speaking on Spice as if Lady Saw broke some major glass ceilings on her own without having to climb on No Doubt’s or vitamin C’s back. 🥱 She doesn’t have the solo accolades to walk near Spice. She got away with claiming to be a triple platinum selling artist for 2 decades only for it to be revealed that Underneath It All just reached platinum status 22 years after it’s released. No doubt’s album milestone never applied to her.

[@sykoalic5159]

The greatest. Spice is not there 😅😅😅😅

[@greathieghts3314]

She is actually...as she said one of!!!

[@donovanmartin494]

@@sykoalic5159 Spice has more solo accolades than lady saw and the rest. Spice m and Diana king has the most solo accolades in dancehall.