Spider Farmer SE3000 3x3 LED grow light with Samsung LM301B PAR test and review

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I review the Spider Farmer SE3000 LED grow light for a 3x3 0r 90cm x 90cm grow space.
The light requires a little assembly which is very easy and quick.
The Meanwell LED driver can be mounted on the back of the bars or remotely, whichever suits your setup. The driver has on board dimming as well as ports for daisy chain dimming control.
The white LEDs are Samsung LM301B with protective coating and there are also added UVA and Far red diodes.
The light was tested in a 3x3 area at 12" or 30cm hanging height. The average PAR was 775 µmols which is a good level and the system efficiency calculated at 2.17 µmols/watt or usable PPF/watt.
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[@MIGROLIGHT]

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[@auston911]

i beielve the removed the UVR chips and sell it as a supplemental light bar now, can anyone second this?

[@-CT-SODBUSTER]

I don't even consider buying a new grow light unless it's been reviewed by MIGRO. It's nice to have a consumer advocate on our side it seems the world of LED grow lights has a few snake oil salesmen in it and it's nice to have somebody watching out for us consumers. Thank you MIGRO you're a class act!!! My only concern with this light now is they've changed the mean well drivers to a house brand spider farmer driver just a bit concerning

[@vegvisirphotography5632]

A consumer advocate, who owns an Horticultural LED lighting company? You're hillarious dude. Thanks you, that made me laugh haha ❤️😁

[@mollytina7897]

This is Evan, I always like your professionalism and your way of expressing, it's so different than other videos of grow lights

[@ineedmyhat]

Majority of the lights on here are out of my price range, but this guy is such a likable lovely guy I can't help but watch along and dream of owning a big belter of a light.

[@timpage5021]

Is financing something you may be able to do. You can use sezzle and break the payments up. LED depot are really helpful in that regard. It’s an crucial investment and long as you start with proven stable genetics, keep your environmental conditions dialed in and keep it simple you will get your return on investment back very first harvest..

[@ineedmyhat]

@@timpage5021 I'm useless with money unless it comes to spending it. Hoping for a blessing from heaven in order to bring my dreams to fruition. But have one plant on the go just in her first few weeks of flower.

[@marlonmcgregor9346]

Buy my old light I have this model

[@timpage5021]

Got 2 of the SE3000s in a 3x5. It’s a beastly set up. Harvested 1360 grams dry and cured.with 6 photos in 3 gallon rain science mesh grow bags with a just a 30 day veg and flip to flower. Probably one of my favorite setups for sure I’ve had over the years. Running them in parallel makes for almost 1 5 foot long light by 3 feet wide and incredibly even ppfd.

[@TheBigLanky]

Calling straight bs on that... 30 days veg and 3 gal pots? 8 oz a plant? nah

[@enragedwookie7863]

Totally possible IMO especially with some higher yielding cultivars. 30 days veg on a clone even more believable I personally have seen what the se5000 has done for some lagging seedlings in one weeks time brought from under t5s. I too would call BS had I not had seen it with my own eyes. Never witnessed in decades what a difference these LEDs make as far as explosive growth.

[@timpage5021]

@@enragedwookie7863 yea these kids todays just don’t know.. But are willing to chuck serious coin for unstable unknown genetics and autos that whos yield and quality isn’t worth the water used to grow em. All in the name of skimpin out and just flat out to hard headed to grasp concept of investing in your grow. I see slot of growers who just toss a seed they know nothing about into a pot far too large to start it under a light far too weak grow it and drown and over feed the the thing the bulk of its life and wonder why they ain’t hitting it outta the park park with 60 to 80 grams per square foot of grow space of nothing but top tier medicine dried and cured. I know part of it just sheer laziness and lack of commitment cuz they’re happy with shelling out obscene amounts of cash at dispos cuz it’s a convenience for em and this is the world we live in where people despise and have a fit with the slightest annoyance for being inconvenienced..

[@Courtdog2k3]

I've seen a video where a guy doesn't count his "veg" until it's in Its final pot size, then they are "vegging" until they flip. Even with that, 8z off 3 gallon pots isn't likely or wise. You'd have to water everyday assuming your plants are THAT ACTIVE. Sounds like a rookie situation so I'm calling ducktales (woo-ooo)

[@Avation911]

Dude whats ur lux levels.. Seem to me, i get biggest buds being within 30-40k range ( Led ) more or less and it decrease quailty and yield

[@jarvisparsons4709]

Great light I have done a few grows with this light each time getting nice sized solid dense buds, with great trichome production. This light won’t let you down. I definitely recommend

[@scarychannel4165]

You recommende it I think buy se3000 for my tent

[@Dave-lq4se]

I have one of these in 28"x28" its my second flower tent so mostsly for variety but got the light because of this video

[@scarychannel4165]

Its worth to buy it ? I think buy se3000 answer mee hehe

[@kimble09]

i'm loving these new bar led lights designed for 3x3's!!

[@finnerup89]

Love your video's I may be falling behind. But I still run my migro 600 on a 2m × 2m. And I still love it. Every day I'm still happy that I did that upgrade. Best decision since I started growing. I get 50% more tomatos and raspberrys. On the same rdwc waterfall system that I run. And I know where to buy my next light. When the 600 gives up. Some day in the future. Thanks again 🙏 good vibes from Norway

[@doveseye.4666]

Migro 600 are the sexiest lights on the planet!

[@rcendo]

Running 315w ceramics and cant wait to make the switch over to the Aray 4 red pro later in the year. Waiting on the MIGRO UVB bulb and fixture to show up any day now. Thanks for sharing your time with us.

[@richardstuivenberg4618]

This is in my opinion the best price/performance LED grow light right now. Its perfectly made to place 4 of these in a 6x6 grow tent. And for about €350 a piece! Much better than 4x600w hps. I remember back in the day something like this would set you back €1500 a piece.

[@buttpee6999]

4 of them in a 6x6 is such an overkill

[@richardstuivenberg4618]

@@buttpee6999 not with co2 and hydro

[@michaelpeterellis7979]

4 = 2 x 600 hps 300 watt

[@richardstuivenberg4618]

@@michaelpeterellis7979 hps maxes out at about 1 gram per watt. LED gives me 2 grams per watt with the right genetics. The coverage also much better and no more heat problems.

[@ZeitGeist_TV]

@@richardstuivenberg4618 Heat and better spectrum in today's LEDs is the reason I'm upgrading for my next grow.

[@TravinskiyVladislav]

Spider fermer (sf-4000) - awesome!! Im using spider fermer since 2020 abd this stuff so wonderful

[@sanjiff8083]

Sorry shane love your channel but have to let people know this. Just so you all know what spiderfarmer are like this was what they expected me to do. Fix myself. I'm not an electrician and could kill or cause serious harm. Do not try to fix yourself. Also if you do try your warranty is void . 5 year warranty!!! Not even 1 year warranty the fool you into trying to fix yourself to void your warranty. Avoid like covid . Again sorry shane love your channel and honesty. Please keep up the good work

[@jeffdahmer4502]

Dude has the best videos. Love watching the channel.

[@vonkunstfreiheitgedeckt]

indeed!

[@nicholasgregory3373]

Hell ya, I Like your Work n Professionalism MiGro !! I been looking at n Researching this light for 6 months!!! 😎

[@MIGROLIGHT]

Glad I could help

[@heywoodjablome2018]

I just purchased this light off Amazon I have an se2000 pro and wanted to upgrade to bar lights sounds like I made a good choice.

[@ironindica7342]

Nice light!

[@apeacefulgrower]

Good stuff Shane, thanks for sharing 👍

[@eggspanda2475]

I bought this light with migro code sorry Shane but you didnt have your 3x3 light in stock, I couldnt wait 😁 next time

[@runnerofwoods7930]

I won this light off of northwest jay channel Happy and grateful I won but as for spider farmer I'd have to say customer service was a big zero! Tried 3 times to get a hold of 'Zoey' from spider farmer with no luck, light was damaged during delivery or at the China factory? Regardless it just doesn't work and I'm glad I didnt pay over $500 Canadian for thos light!

[@twentytwo138]

You can say it louder for those in the back! My Mars light came bent and it was running hot like a toaster and it smelled like burning electronics. I sent the light back and waited 2-3 months for a refund, going back and forth through emails almost every day. They finally refunded me when i publicly called them out on a forum, and they did it just to keep me quiet. Mars or Spider, never again!

[@420homegrowz5]

I wish I would’ve waited just another day and seen your video before I did Released my video because then I could have added your spot on par into it as accreditation nice job thanks buddy

[@janetlynne8712]

I like the way it looks

[@Tim.McElheny]

Great info, thanks for posting

[@JOESSECRETGARDEN85]

Hell yeah brother get er done

[@michael2305]

Would be interesting to see how much power you would need with four of these in a 1.5m x 1.5m area.

[@tedshred8932]

Would you choose the Spider Farmer SE3000 or a Viparspectra KS3000 for a 3x3 space?

[@davidf2055]

Wondering if there would be a Issue hanging a UVB light on top of the se3000? The video you demonstrated with the migrow array showed no issue. I'd probably move the meanwell driver outside the tent in any case.

[@MIGROLIGHT]

Hi David, Should be fine.

[@geegonzalez8042]

spider farmer se3000 mars hydro fc3000 ac infinity evo4 which one is better

[@krazykillar4794]

Hi , you have reviewed this and the lumatek led lights . I would like to know wich unit is better in your opinion. Would you buy the spider farmer se 7000 or the Lumatek 600w zeus pro 2.9 umol ? Lumatek is About £100 more than the spider farmer at most places .

[@JohnPointer3]

Have u ever considered measuring the KIND X2 LED? My Friend

[@PeterKKraus]

They must be sold at Home Depot near the Ridgid stuff.

[@Srog822]

Glad to see more options for 3x3 tent's coming out. I think they're the perfect size and are really underrated.

[@PeterKKraus]

@@Srog822 Actually, this would really do well in a 2 x2 and a 7-10 gallon pott. At least a year's supply. (12oz)

[@tylerm0089]

@@PeterKKraus bro what? you can fit a plant that produces 12oz dry in a 2 x2? that's frickin incredible.. I would love to see how you train that sucker.

[@PeterKKraus]

@@tylerm0089 Here's a video. There a few others like it on here.

[@hellcat1605]

If you had a choice between the SF3000 or a Optic 4 Gen 3 Led.Not looking for any bashing,just your choice.

[@LAndre2874]

I couldn't find the exact video but I was hoping you could help. The spider farmer g4500 in your review you said who is very powerful budget light with an extremely hi par. Do you think it would work in a 4 by 4? In a 2 by 4 the ppfd is over 1,000 I think it was around 1500 you actually suggested supplementing carbon dioxide. If it's that strong do you think it would work in a 4 by 4?

[@kingfishphill4120]

REAL NICE 👍

[@frankleiner8357]

Ahoi, wich is the better one? Spider or Mars Fc3000?

[@wogwiki7516]

Hi Shane, thanks for the helpful videos, can you please do a review on Sol Fusion? Cheers

[@uzo992]

What if you were to put on a set of blackout googles and when you went to sleep at night put that light on your skin at night? What would that do?

[@kabar48]

What app is that for your phone that shows the light color chart?

[@blakebossyi6546]

Will you be testing the spider farmer se1000 and the g1000? Could you do a comparison test with the two?

[@aaronditchfield781]

Any chance of reviewing the Mars Hydro tsw 2000, i want to know if im wasting my time in a 3x3

[@beastiegrows]

Is that the 300 watt sqaure version? I iust flowered with that in a 3x3. It was a bit shit at the edges and corners but a decent light for a 3x3 for the price. In a tent it might be better i had it in the open

[@bustownbc2787]

Whats better bars or board lights??? And do you recomend this light??

[@bustownbc2787]

Whats the difference between the bar lights and the board lights for the same space??? Why do they sell both?

[@Anton_2024]

Great review, the MIGRO code isn’t working? 😭

[@Rolouw83]

Would love to see the lumi led that runs off Lumi Black balast

[@oscarweedpots]

I think it’s a great led i won one of them.

[@Jumbo344]

Can I bring the light up to 25 inches?

[@jayo8621]

Its weird that they seem to be advertising thelight having 2.75 umo efficency however they llist iit with the almost same par average @777 to your 775... Guesss they got lazy or had a bad concience halways through making the ad because wouldn't a light with that much higher of an efficency usually also have a higher average if compared to another light with same specs layout etc?

[@marlonmcgregor9346]

Can u do a photone review with a android and iPhone compared to sensor

[@marlonmcgregor9346]

Does it have ubmv and ir

[@gokuzawa268]

Something is wrong here. Average PAR of 775 divided by 290W is 2.67, not 2.17. Am I missing something?

[@rickster9065]

I know you wrote this 11 months ago but I've been looking at efficiency recently aswell...... so average PAR of 775 is in metres squared so you have to multiply that figure in metres squared for the grow area so 3ft × 3ft is roughly (general conversion is 30cm = 1ft) 90cm × 90cm which works out at 0.81 metres squared (0.9 metres × 0.9metres) multiplied by the average of 775, then divide by wattage consumed works out at 2.168...... so 2.17 basically.......... 775 (average par) × 0.81 (grow area) ÷ 289.5 (wattage) = 2.168 (efficiency) hope that helps

[@ericduarte5322]

Hello, help buy the migro aray 4 in amazon united states, I thought I would have no problem, in Argentina we use 220 volts, amazon clarifies late that it is only 120 volts... I am confused with the specification of the data sheet (Voltage / Current 110V / 2.2 Amp; 220V / 1.2 Amp).. can I use it in Argentina at 220 volts without burning? Thank you

[@MIGROLIGHT]

Hi, Yes the drivers are rated from 100v to 277v and can be used in Argentina. Thanks.

[@billan888]

Do you think the 2x2 grow tent would be okay with this light? I'm looking for something with a smaller footprint, but want to have a good light for a proper yield. Thanks, as always. :)

[@MIGROLIGHT]

Hi, No it's more suited for a 3x3

[@Santiago-mv1kv]

Do you think I could get by with it in a 4 x 4 tent? Or would you recommend a bigger/more powerful model?

[@jamesbowman9806]

Can you take out one bar and the rest work? Fix bar and replace it without turning the whole light off?

[@AnnhilateTheNihilist]

No

[@louche33]

Just dim the light

[@timpage5021]

Yes absolutely you can., That was part of the design process. And just 1 more thing that sets it above some of its competitors.

[@timpage5021]

@@AnnhilateTheNihilist yes friend. You absolutely can remove one of the bars and run the rest of the light.

[@AnnhilateTheNihilist]

@@timpage5021 that would be stupid

[@jasonbrooks4115]

Is the g3000 newer or older

[@timothyfloyd7184]

Used the Photone app and uni t Lux meter and mine is defiantly over 1000 ppfd at 12 inches. Would a 2.7x2.7 make that big of a difference? I feel like my readings are wrong but they’re both showing up in Same range

[@MrHouseplant]

Are you using the full spectrum LED setting on Photone? And are you using a diffuser? Photone will not give good results without a diffuser. But with a diffuser, it's gives me pretty similar results to my Hydrofarm PAR meter.

[@jasonbrooks4115]

Can this fit in 2 and half 2 and half

[@doveseye.4666]

Why all the big rigid lights, a 5 x 5 is a big immovable light, forbid ever having to bug out and end up with one closet, you live on the right and your grow on the left, best is small with a big lit.😊

[@brockgangell5759]

I've just bought one of these lights I have it 60cm above my new clones canopy set at 25% power does this sound correct? Any information would be greatly appreciated 🙏

[@goinfishinalba9811]

Put it 18 inches above clones at 50% veg 18 inches 75% and flower 12 inches at 100%

[@mohamednilar8113]

Any chance for a review of the spiderfarmer se5000?

[@krazykillar4794]

I love the spiderfarmer lights . The se3000 is only £240 on the official website with a coupon .

[@joaoribeiro8438]

Where is the "grow 300" review?

[@750swift9]

Fucking helll I needed this video so bad !!

[@mattyburrows9059]

ppfd is great at the hanging height of 12 inches..but what it like at hanging height plus a 3 foot plant? super low numbers..if it was about efficiency we would use the sun..its about whats the best and led certainly are not the best

[@assog5737]

Matty, Share your knowledge All mighty one.

[@mattyburrows9059]

@@assog5737 just told ye mate ppfd is shit as soon as you move away from the canopy because these leds are 0.4w per diode if a 1000w light can easy do a 4 foot plant and a 600w hps struggles to do a 4 foot plant.common sense tells you the 0.4w led has no chance..similar to t5 tubes..canopy will be great but you need power to make the light shine further..buy a cheap £1 torch.it lights the back fence..buy 1001 of them and it lights the back fence..buy a single torch that uses more power..it alone shines further than 1001 cheap shit ones..get your ppfd/par app and youll see how shit the numbers are and hat shows in the final result.shit small sugar puff buds..or just look at the floor on a motorway the 1000w hps lights the floor up on a tall lampost..the led short street light on a side road doesnt .or look on migros channel when hes doing a tent comparing lights...the floor is in darkness..just bang up a canopy chart and that will fool many unaware fools..could do that with t5 tubes and make them look good too..forget what i said..jump on the hype train like all these have and dont forget some athena brick acid that kills terps..athena call it cleanse

[@louche33]

😂😂

[@matthewf9909]

Can you do a review on the optic 720s.

[@laurieedeburn2449]

i like yours best dear man

[@tedshred8932]

Would this light be noticably cooler than my 315W LEC/CMH light?

[@garymccollough1780]

Absolutely 👍

[@fastbudgrower4205]

This or the Mars hydro version???

[@OGRadGrow]

Nice.

[@markopipinic4300]

Nice

[@randylogan4339]

Can we get a ppfd for a 315cmh?

[@onehourshower2]

So what’s the big difference between this light and the SF G3000

[@MIGROLIGHT]

There is no SF 3000 only SE 3000

[@tomtheoharis2313]

No there’s a G3000 & SE3000. The G uses Bridgelux diodes & the SE Samsung.

[@OGRadGrow]

Im looking for a nice 3x3 light, But i want 1 with Samsung LM301H leds. How much better are the LM301H leds?

[@happyg.444]

No better than the 301B's. Pretty much the same diodes.

[@OGRadGrow]

@@happyg.444 why are there LM301B and LM301H leds if there no difference? (Not sarcasim) Samsung shows the 301H to more efficent. I just wanted to know how much more efficent and really want to know would the 301H make more PPFD?

[@happyg.444]

@@OGRadGrow I think has something to do with the coating on them. The H means Horticulture. both the H and B's put out the same amount of lumens. Virtually are the same. The older Samsungs are competitive for their cheaper price.

[@happyg.444]

@@OGRadGrow It's more about the "bin" number than the diode. They are both excellent diodes.

[@twentytwo138]

OpticLED, highest quality components.

[@DzumEFF]

Would be close to 1000ppdf in a closed tent :0

[@ericduarte5322]

hello, Spider Farmer Se 3000 or Viparspectra Ks 3000?? someone helps me, thank you... Greetings from Argentina, excellent channel

[@MIGROLIGHT]

Hi, They are both very similar, with the Viparspectra Ks 3000 you can locate the driver outside the tent though. Thanks.

[@ericduarte5322]

@@MIGROLIGHT thanks for the answer friend, in the end opt to buy your big light 240w 2x4, waiting for amazon to send it to South America =D

[@chadneyfranken2643]

Please somebody help me : tsw2000 or fce3000 wich one is better?

[@dannydynan3561]

SE3000 😉

[@redeye1773]

nah 2 years ago it might be able to contend seems a little weak and self assembling 199.00 tops

[@davidbysouth667]

Price

[@DakinRinone]

Minw doesnt look the same. I ordered right from them

[@AnnhilateTheNihilist]

That’s my light!!! Lol

[@RIBBY_BOY]

Best used in a 2x2

[@Str8basshead]

Why does he always seem like he needs a glass of water? He tries to swallow after every sentance.

[@chunkyhebrew8805]

Check out hygro hybrids channel on KZbin.. and look what he's doing with a single 730w Spiderfarm fixture.. it's sickening. As a potential new hobbyist, Spiderfarm and Mars Hydro are definitely on my short list of fixtures to look at.

[@timpage5021]

Yes sir. The proof is in the result’s.

[@twentytwo138]

As a potential new hobbyist, some warning for you. You should know that Mars and Spider are the lesser brands on the market. They're not even mid-range, they are below mid-range. They are popular mostly because of the lower price and high marketing. However, for the low quality they offer, the price is actually too expensive. Often times it's a waste of money because their lights are risky, it's gambling. It might work for years and bring good results if you're lucky, or the light might stop working after few months. They may send you a Meanwell driver, or they might send you the cheaper driver and tell you: ''But it will still grow!'' However, you payed more money for the Meanwell so basically you got scammed. Customer service i give it 2/10 points, and those 2 points are just because they are nice before the purchase, but after purchase they treat you like trash.. My Mars light came bent, and it was running extremely hot like a toaster, it smelled like burning electronics. I sent the light back and waited 2-3 months for a refund, going back and forth through emails almost every day. They were trying to avoid refunding me for a brand new light i bought which was not working properly. I had to call them out on a forum to get their attention to finally refund me, and they only did it because they were afraid i would ruin their reputation too much. Because i went public calling them out, they had no choice but to refund me. That's a sign of an untrustworthy, unreliable and unprofessional company. Don't get mislead by paid advertisers, sponsors and those who won a free light for a contest. They are asked to give a nice review. Mars and Spider invest more money into marketing strategy than actual quality. Real good brands don't need too many ads. Honestly, you can get a 10x more quality light, just for 10-20% more money than Mars and Spider. It's worth spending few extra bucks for a proper high quality light. Or if you really want a cheap light, you can buy unbranded Chinese LED grow lights from many different shopping websites, they are half the price of Mars and Spider but the quality is the same. Mars and Spider use those same lights and just slap their name on it. You basically pay for the name being advertised. Don't get caught up in all the marketing BS, go for Migro or Lumatek/Photontek and you'll be set for many years.

[@timpage5021]

@@twentytwo138 you’re the biggest SpiderFarmer troll on social media and full of shit.. Lesser brands ? In comparison to what ? Well let’s take Photontek and compare quality build . Component’s used performance and customer service. Phontontek is the same light as Lumatec.. Well known brand for their HID bulbs and ballasts. Let’s get one thing understood..Well known in no way correlates with the product build and performance whatsoever. Photontek uses inferior LED chips in comparison to the top bin Samsung LM301b and LM301H used in Spiderfarmer and Mars. Check 1 for SF and MH Both use a aluminum frame. Nothing to add here Photontek uses slightly more than 2/3rds the number of chips in comparison to SF and MH Check 1 for SF and MH Photontek uses a in-house brand driver. Anyone who’s used lumatec ballasts no their okay but can be hit or miss..So unproven unknown drivers.. SF abd MH uses Meanwell , Inventronics, Sosen and MOSO drivers..All proven reliable over a long history.. Check 4 SF and MH. Photontek uses a middle housing while the bars clip in the plastic seating..DR MJ COCO shows how wonky the connections are.. SF and MH uses removable adjustable bars with marine grade water tight push lock connectors. Check 1 for SF and MH Photontek in-house driver is overclocked coupled with fewer LEDs causes quite a bit of heat being produced.Significantly more than SF and MH cool to the touch.on top of that phontontek lack of ability to set the driver outside the space.. Check 3 more for SF and MH. At this point it’s obvious to the grower who’s serious about their craft and equipment used In every category that matters Spiderfarmer and Marshydro edge out Photontek in everything that matters . Being an Asian brand doesn’t automatically correlate to being a bad product. There’s thousands of documented grows with SF and MH. Not many at all of the Phtontek in comparison. And what brand did Shane have holding the top spot for a 4x4…….( SpiderfarmerSE7000) Look we get from the hundreds of hate comments you’ve splattered all over countless KZbin videos showcasing Spiderfarmer that you have a deep rooted obsession for hate geared towards a inanimate object s Grow Light. But the level you go to in making sure you comment on every Spiderfarmer video and leave reply’s on every positive comment involving their personal experience with the light……is well frankly disturbing and weird. For someone who has such deep negative feelings about SF and MH lights you sure do follow the social media where SF and MH are present . Are you just seeking for someone to say to you your hate for high performance grow is valid? Its okay buddy you’re perfectly welcome to hate high efficient reliable grow lights made with quality components. It’s a lil weird….but what isn’t these days.

[@chunkyhebrew8805]

@@twentytwo138 thank you for the reply. Although I am a potential new hobbyist, I am actually older. Dr Mj Coco, Migro, Justin2grow, Hygro Hybrids, Inside Hydro and G2G are all KZbinrs I watch and see their works/opinions. Photontek, hlg, lush, scyence, phantom photobio and chilled were the other brands that I've been doing extensive research on... But there's only one problem that I've seen.. most of the KZbin videos on current cycles being run... Don't feature these fixtures with the exception of HLG and even then it's only the 650r or the Diablo Scorpion. Mars and Spider... You can find cycles from 150w up to multiple 800w fixture cycles being conducted within the last year. So I ask.. if these brands are so much greater, where is the photontek SQ300 or 465 cycle videos at? Or lush that isn't a decade old. Or sycence that isn't just showing some massive farm with 100 fixtures. Or HLG 350r's? Right now Mars and Spider are showing up and their products are being used and truth be told they aren't that much cheaper than the main stream brands. The Mars Sp3000 is killing the game at 300w.. but with a 400.00 price tag. The Se7000 is a 730w monster single handedly kicking a$$ and taking names... 850.00. Hell last year in a 2x2 Mars tent with a Mars ts1000 (140.00, 150w) and a 5 gallon dwc bucket, Inside Hydro broke the internet with the quality and quantity he was able to achieve. Right now Mars and Spider offer a line up that is diversified and producing real live results. The glitz the glam of their marketing techniques isn't what draw me to them. Talk to any real Mercedes, BMW or Land Rover owner and they'll tell you that over their years of ownership.. they've come across a lemon or two.. that's just a part of the game. And as far as customer service and a warranty? From what I've personally witnessed.. the best warranty and customer service is having another fixture on deck and ready because NO company is immediately replacing your fixture in the 4th week of flower if your main fixture decides to take a dump. This hobby is not for the faint of heart financially or time wise. Once again, I am sincerely grateful for your response and take heed to your previous issue, however the streets are talking and Mars and Spider are currently putting out products that are yielding great results and therefore, in my opinion cannot be removed from the table. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gZbSen6Qnt6dlc0 A very informative and unbiased opinion.

[@xXstacticdeathXx]

@@chunkyhebrew8805 I only buy lights from official Samsung partners just like I take my car to authorize workshops for a service. Plus I like the highest umol level I can get my hands on the new light I just order should hit 3.6

[@enragedwookie7863]

Needs water seriously you are my dude but drink some damn water before you start recording or something!!!! Lol

[@mickfitz76]

that assembly process and the wires make it very unappealing. Yuk

[@KorrakotK]

The efficacy isn't worth the price.

[@michaelpeterellis7979]

Prefer the original look

[@Cherub72]

thirsty?

[@gedeuchnixan3830]

And again I´m asking, where is the diming function mate? Which stage at which hight for seedlings/ vegetation? People care about dimming because we´re growing at home in a very limited space and most just don´t have (space and money) for 2-4 tents with all perfect lighting, it has to work out in that one tent. Since all of you manufactures don´t supply those information at all and it´s "come in and find out" maybe I kill my plants, because the manufacturer isn´t telling me how much power his lamp needs in different stages, but why the f* should they care about us killing plants due to a simple lag of information. Are you manufacturers frigtend of the dimming resoults for your lamps or why is NO F*G ONE testing anywhere on the internet, are all reviews paid for? And you don´t need to do as sarrow testing for dimming, just give us the center and outline and we´ll figure out how the other values are PROBABLY like ourselves, that already would be enough for the dimming function.

[@timpage5021]

The dimmer is on the gray box. Seedling stage 20-25% at about 28 inches Early to late veg 30 to 60% at about 24 to 18 inches. Early flower through stretch 80% at a height of 16 to 12 inches Mid flower 100% 12 inches Last week to 10 days before chop 90% at about 18 to 24 inches. Hope this helps.

[@louche33]

Chill and do a bit of research for yrself. Or do u want him to grow yr plants for you?

[@gedeuchnixan3830]

@@louche33 There´re no messurements how dimming is effecting the values, especially on the sides. And what do light messurements have to do with growing my plants smartarse?

[@revoltoff]

You sold out for a couple thoussand :(

[@elliotlake1882]

???

[@timpage5021]

What are you talking about?

[@timpage5021]

@john doe what are you 8 years old or are you grown. What’s the big bad Spiderfarmer doing to pressure you and push you into a corner to buy their lights? Did they threaten you , blackmail you , harm you ? Seriously how the hell is Spiderfarmer bullying you into buying from them. I know this generation is soft and sensitive but come man. Spiderfarmer don’t even do any advertising on their own. And the head distributor Nancy Sheng is 4 feet 8 inches tall and weighs about 115 pounds. Enough of your bull. Trust Spiderfarmer isn’t hurting for bussiness so bad they gotta strongarm people. The proof is in the pudding so to speak and growers are knocking it outta the park with their lights. Grow up. If you don’t wanna buy a light from then stiffen your backbone and don’t. You don’t wanna see growers smashing record number yields on social media then scroll on to something else..

[@timpage5021]

@john doe I run 3 grower networking communities and help operate grow facility a genetics company and it’s social media center.. I’m a personal consultant and instructor ( some say mentor) but I don’t like that description. I’ve got 30 years in this craft.. and as far as proof of you’ve ( done your research) and with all that pressure being applied to you by a foreign lighting manufacturer than you’ve had to come across the scores of growers useing spiderfarmer and crushing. If you haven’t then you’re either blind , lying and or simply ain’t done ( your research) or all 3. Here I’ll help you get started Hygro Hybrid been on here for over a decade now and been useing Spiderfarmer for the past 3 or 4 years. Look what he’s doing with just 1 SE7000. Ain’t too many people on his or for that matter my level whdh it comes to indoors grows. Check out his channel and if you quit being confullish I’d be willing to help you optimize your potential..

[@Defender_of_men]

@@timpage5021 hey bud, I been growing for almost 25 years mostly sungrown and my head is spinning trying to understand what LED lights I need to buy I want to know what is equivalent to the thousand-watt HPS as I have to keep my plant count low and want to grow each plant as large as possible indoors.If I were just to use my old 1000 what HPS I would put one over each one of my plants but I want to step it up and put it's equivalent in LED over each plant instead.If that makes any sense.Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.Thanks.

[@sanjiff8083]

They expect me to try and fix an electrical item that's less than 1 year old with a 5 year warranty. I'm no electrician but I know could kill or cause serious harm. They also ignored someone they sponsored as lights failed after 3 months. I have the messages to prove that statement. @spiderfarmerled