Spider Farmer SE7000 Review: A Powerful Bar Light for Your 4x4 or 5x5 (w/ High-res PPFD Results!)

[@snuggleseal]

Cool to see an old version of the se7000 it shows they've developed it a lot. The se7000 EVO now folds in the middle to take up less space and has less bars

[@MattGarver]

Great to see the PPFD maps at different hang heights. Until I can grow a perfectly flat plant canopy, the readings over 1' to 2' feet of plant depth are valuable. As always, super detailed and really appreciated!

[@sjkba]

Your video and especially the ppfd charts are incredible! It's beyond professional! Hopefully you're somehow getting something out of it. The information you provide is so valuable!

[@LEDGardener]

Thanks a lot, Seb.

[@jolate3603]

Chances of you reviewing comparing this se7000 and the new 8 bar set up they have now? The "upgraded' has more blue in the spectrum and 2 more bars but 500 less diodes. And the advertised ppf is way more. Great video BTW and love the site!

[@neihc1589]

Apparently this SE7000 is the 1st version. 6 bars, 650watts. The 2nd version of the SE7000 is 8 bars and draws 730 watts Annnddd..... It's only $41 more. Info for anyone that's interested

[@DGOutlaw]

How does it compare to a Mars Hydro FC-6500? Could you do a review or comparison. Thinking of switching to a LED set up but want the best for the buck, DYI. Thanks!

[@flyingdutchman28]

This is the best grow light channel on KZbin. People just have to catch up to you, brother.

[@LEDGardener]

Thanks, man!

[@timothyfloyd7184]

Is the chart website down?

[@Sam-Icy]

I wish you could do the Mars Hydro TSL2000 for the people with 2x4 tents! Seems to be a competition between that and SpiderFarmers SF2000.

[@santiagoburton8351]

It's good to see everybody give reviews on the spider farmer se 7000. I'm curious about the spider farmer g860 specs and how cost effective they say it is..

[@masonv5082]

That’s the one I want as well

[@eddie429]

Thanks man, appreciate the info!

[@mike4878]

given the relatively low efficiency compared to their reported 2.75. Do you suspect the diodes aren't of the SL bin?

[@LEDGardener]

My numbers are less reliable because I’m just estimating efficiency based on the photons that fall on the measurement surface. Their number would be capturing all photons leaving the light.

[@mike4878]

@@LEDGardener hmmm I see your point but when you compare your test numbers to other lights from your testing environment, for example the HLG scorpion diablo, the efficiency is much higher. Is that enough evidence to suggest one light may be using better Bin diodes?

[@LEDGardener]

I would guess that if there’s something that’s lower efficiency on this light, it’s the off-brand driver. It feels much lighter and less sturdy than a 600W Mean Well.

[@claytonalexander9105]

@@LEDGardener Yea but the Scorpion Diablo uses a 600w Inventronics Driver.

[@brianmcdermott2596]

great vid!! any idea how the upgraded version compares? you get an additional 80 watts and 2 additional led bars yet 642 less led's. also, why would they opt to leave out the IR and UV lights on the 7000 only?

[@artvandelay4545]

I was able to get the upgraded version and it really is a nice light. I have it in a 5 x 5 and it actually more light than most people will need unless you are running CO2. Veg is about 40% on the dimmer and flower about 65%. So quite a bit of overhead left over to play with later in the grow. I'm not worried about a few missing diodes which would just be overkill for most amateur growers.

[@concreter6832]

@@artvandelay4545 I know it is a old post ,I have just received the upgraded se7000 ,how far above canopy do u hang light? Thanks

[@artvandelay4545]

@@concreter6832 I would start off about 3 feet above the canopy and see how your plants react. You can tell if they are happy or not. I know like that sounds like more space than you see recommended but it's a powerful light and can overwhelm younger plants especially. Hope that helps

[@concreter6832]

@@artvandelay4545 I bought 2 of the 7000 for a 10 f X 5 ft tent ,by what U said I will probably not run them more than 65 %,that Will be a big power saver ,I am replacing 3x600 HP's thanks for advice.

[@artvandelay4545]

@@concreter6832 Pretty sure you'll like that setup. You might need to run above 65% at the very end, but if you run much above that, you will generate a bunch of heat but still cooler running than your old setup. I've gotten some big fat nugs with this light.

[@mac42008]

hello great video will you be doing a review of the spider farmer se5000 anytime soon thanks

[@b4l17279]

So I just ordered this exact light from spider farmer and it just seem like a real sketchy website like the PayPal account I sent my payment to was in like Japanese letters Just trying to make sure I ordered from the right website

[@Jesusdisciple219]

Hi can you do a review on the new HLG 200 Diablo please. They don't have much info about it on their website so a review will be greatly appreciated

[@DarkChild1758]

How does this compare to the chilled growcraft x6

[@PhilthyFarms]

So do you recommend this light for flowering in a 5x5 or is more light needed ?

[@MinesanityServer]

5x5 takes around 800-1000W to light properly, check out the Photontek 1000W CO2 PRO, drmjcoco made a video on it. I would honestly just recommend people use 4x4 instead. The amount of light it takes to cover a 5x5 costs the same amount as the amount of light needed to cover a 4x8. You can easily cover a 4x8 with 2 lights you can get for $700-800 each, so $1400-1600 total, but a single light strong enough to cover a 5x5 properly is $1400-1500. 4x8 just makes more sense

[@SouthWardBrazy515]

@@MinesanityServer you can properly light a 5x5 with a HLG 600R, 650R, or Scorpion $600-900

[@MinesanityServer]

@@SouthWardBrazy515 The HLG 600 and 650R barely cover a 4x4 properly. They will never cover a 5x5. Do the math, you need at least 40W per square foot to cover a 4x4 area. So you would need 1000W to cover a 5x5 area

[@MinesanityServer]

@Paul The SE7000 doesn’t cover the 5x5 as evenly as it should, he literally shows you in the video how it falls off at the edges. Look at the par graph of a Photontek 1000W light in a 5x5 and you will clearly see the difference

[@nickspeakstruth133]

@@MinesanityServer have tested a growers choice ROI-E720 and it lights up a 5x5 just fine and is only $1100 for a system that includes UV/IR

[@FordFlatheadRat]

May I ask what tent you are using? At timecode 13:10 I notice a grey foam core in the tent wall. I would like to know the manufacture and model number, please.

[@LEDGardener]

I built these walls myself so I could reconfigure the space however large I needed to test in

[@FordFlatheadRat]

@@LEDGardener Looks like an outside material, grey foam and silver liner inside. Can you tell me what those 3 materials are and what your using to glue them together, please I’d like to reproduce for myself, thx

[@FordFlatheadRat]

May I have info on materials for the foam wall, please?

[@LEDGardener]

They are 2” 4x8 foam panels from Home Depot with mylar glued to them

[@bigtony77]

This is the old version yes?

[@jp6142]

Bro can you do more vids on your Home Automation grow? Love the content man 👊🏻😎

[@LEDGardener]

That’s exactly what I’m working on right now. I’m redoing my indoor garden to add a bunch more automated grow space and I’ll be sharing it of course.

[@jp6142]

@@LEDGardener Nice! I watched your Automation vids about 2 months ago, since then my amazon delivery driver knows me personally 😂. Once I'm up and running I'll do a vid and tag you mate as you are the inspiration 👊🏻

[@LEDGardener]

Hahaha the Amazon thing is so true. Looking forward to that tag.

[@matthewf9909]

This light made in usa?

[@cbriangilbert1978]

Nice testing!

[@stingerwolfie6246]

Hi , wondering if you would help a guy out here. This LED is so confusing for one. I've got a 4x4 tent AC Infinity with the awesome exhaust fan. I bought those budget crap Blurple light led lights. One Cob just died after 2 months. I'm on a budget in a way. Question your thoughts would the HLG 350 R be good for Flowering a 4x4. Thanks love your awesome reviews on the LED,'s

[@lok777]

Get the 600R or 650R for a 4x4.

[@stingerwolfie6246]

@@lok777 thank you I got it the 650R HLG 🥰🥰👍👍

[@jamesrunions4553]

I just won this light from Mr Canucks. He's the shit.

[@TheShleafHerder]

Nice would love it in my Dank Dungeon

[@thatklis9422]

What exact material do you use for reflection?

[@LEDGardener]

Vivosun 6 mil mylar

[@MrE1981]

Evenly spaced bars would have provided better uniformity at all heights, for a fixture of these dimensions.

[@TaylorHaun]

this is great! tried using the LEDG code as a coupon in checkout at the link you shared but it said "coupon ledg does not exist!" any ideas on what I might be doing wrong or how to apply your discount?

[@LEDGardener]

Hey Taylor, I tried changing it to see if that fixes it. Try ledgspider now.

[@TaylorHaun]

@@LEDGardener that worked! Thanks so much!

[@LEDGardener]

No, thank you!

[@ShuhDonk]

Another great review, thanks.

[@LEDGardener]

Thanks!

[@Jamesjames-bb2zz]

How much is this and is it alvable in the UK 🇬🇧

[@justinomar9210]

Go look at migro he's in the UK he test all the top lights and cheaper alternatives plus he builds them aswell

[@terrytwotoes3225]

Will that fit in a 3x3 tent

[@TheStp77]

Man i just headed over to your website, amazing work, you got try and test the mars hydro fc-e6500! Do you have a patreon ill definitely do my part in helping🤘🤘

[@LEDGardener]

Hey thanks a lot!

[@NIGHTMARE.ONLINE]

@@LEDGardener 😂😂😂👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@greggasiorowski4025]

I got a HLG Scorpion R Spec recently for $765 for a 5x5 wonder how this compares, I've used 2 SF2000 prior, but have been thinking ill of them as they seem disingenuous in their claims.

[@CP-gt1sj]

Im in ur situation exactly. Whats your opinion on both the lights now?

[@jccuchvjvj]

Plot twist. They do not do 6 bars version no more. It's 8 bars now and 730W.

[@LEDGardener]

Yeah, these light companies pump out new models so quickly, it's tough to keep up.

[@greggasiorowski4025]

Still sells on Amazon.🤷‍♂️

[@jccuchvjvj]

@@greggasiorowski4025 I've asked them at Ali

[@wurzermichael]

Give us an update on your Home Assistant stuff! :)

[@LEDGardener]

I’m starting a new build this week!

[@wurzermichael]

@@LEDGardener Hell yeah!

[@LEDGardener]

Yup. Taking a break from the light reviews for a bit to expand my indoor garden and to try and simplify the code behind it. Would love to be able to get it all done using Home Assistant only without Arduino code.

[@demonmod]

thanks for the great video! it's nice to know how easy it is to set this light up. i am in the market for a good light and this is the one i have been wanting, but i am undecided since spider farmer hasn't paid me a dime for any of my affiliate referrals since i have started with them. every month they tell me the same thing. "we'll send it out the first of the month" which never happens. have you tried the affiliate program? if so, how has your experience been so far?

[@demonmod]

@@timpage5021 out of 3 sales i was only paid for one so far. at the time of writing what i did, i hadnt received anything yet. i ended up buying the se7000, so far everything is working properly. hopefully it stays that way! i am unsubbing to this channel right now so i'm not sure if i will see any reply. if not, take care and good luck :)

[@LEDGardener]

Well, a few months down the road, I can identify. I’ve been notified for 8 referral orders and every single one of them was followed by another email an hour after saying the referral was “updated” and removed. None show up in my dashboard. They told me that all these orders were cancelled by the buyers. Ha!

[@spoozz]

Thank youuu 💪🏻

[@HAVOCSRT4]

This must be a older version the new se7000 has 8 light bars

[@LEDGardener]

Yup

[@joshseigel]

Need a bigger table for the unboxing. Lol ran out of table.

[@heathhamby1972]

Bro I think you are testing the wrong light this is not the SE7000 THE SE7000 Has 8 bars and is a 730 watt light you are testing a 6 bar light which I think is the SE 5000

[@kingfishphill4120]

☀️ NICE ☀️

[@sanjiff8083]

Anyone had failed led on spiderfarmer and ignored even though under 1 year old? Check ya warranty

[@neihc1589]

This is a SE5000. Not SE7000.

[@LEDGardener]

The SE7000 changed. This was the first version of it.

[@neihc1589]

Oh is that so? I have the 8 bars version.

[@LEDGardener]

Nice. Do you like them?

[@neihc1589]

They must of just recently released version 2 then hu? Didn't even know that. I got mine last week. I haven't set them up yet. They are put together and I check em out. Been busy lol Currently have 3 Sunraise QB4000 up. Gonna move those to veg room. SE7000 for flowering.

[@LEDGardener]

Good stuff. Spider Farmer says the SE5000 has a 480W power draw and mine drew 630+

[@AktenJoe]

So what i understood , the spiderfarmer se7000 is much more powerful and especially uniform than the HLG Scorpion Diablo. i just compared your two videos i was close buying the HLG because in most tests, its the most ppfd producer, but now iam confused kzbin.info/www/bejne/kGe7mWyQbL5mqK8

[@HorticulureLightingGroupEurope]

The measurements for SE7000 is in a 1.2 x 1.2 tent = 1.44m2... The measurement for HLG are in a 1.5 x 1.5 tent =2.25m2 The HLG were tested in tents that were 56.25% bigger The SE7000 in a 1.2 x 1,2 tent only produces 39.44% more light than the HLG's in 56.25% larger tents So when you look at the maths, what do you think would happen if you put an SE7000 in a 1.5 x 1.5 tent ? Or if you put the HLG lamps in 1.2 x 1.2 tents? The HLG lamps will beat the SE7000. They are clearly brighter and more efficient at turning electricity into light. The higher efficiency of the HLG lamps is no doubt due to HLG lamps using Top-bin Samsung's and SF using lower bin Samsung's, if at all, given they BS and grossly inflate their figures! To answer your question, the HLG lamps are brighter and produce more light per watt than Spiderfarmer lamps :))

[@AktenJoe]

@@HorticulureLightingGroupEurope ure goddamn right!!!!!! i missed the size 4x4 and 5x5 and some other little facts, but thanks for the big info update since i am close to buy a HLG, just was a little confused

[@HorticulureLightingGroupEurope]

@@AktenJoe No problem brother, I am glad I could help you to see the light, lol :)) Full disclosure, as an owner of HLG LEDs I can tell you these lights are legit badass, and at least with HLG you know 100% what you are getting, as they are a reputable company. Enjoy your new light an God Bless.

[@LEDGardener]

I did test the spider farmer in both 4x4 and 5x5 tents. If you’d like to see them you can skip to the chapter in the video.

[@AktenJoe]

@@LEDGardener will check it out, thanks !!!

[@SuperBenjamin1965]

Go with the ROI 680 4 set modes run it year round n a 4 x 4 or a 720 e few bucks more better then china’s junkyard

[@Tara-Maya]

Unfortunately I couldn’t take much away from this video because watching it on an iPhone 12 the text is way too small, especially on the charts and spreadsheets. Otherwise a great review.

[@LEDGardener]

Yup, got to check out the site in the description to see numbers unfortunately. It’s all the same charts but you can zoom in.

[@MMA-CLIPS2]

Do not use this light in a 5x5, it's useless. 4x4 only.