Spider Man 2 is the Sun The Dark Knight is the Moon Two different films both perfect for the tone and message they were going for
@lickenhuntsman53382 жыл бұрын
Spider-Man 2 is Little bit better though
@BadassMoFo.2 жыл бұрын
@@lickenhuntsman5338- yes, 100%
@alperenbeceren17512 жыл бұрын
Absolutely.
@mryesmanofyesalt83215 жыл бұрын
You wanna know how I got these scars ?
@JamesMathieson5 жыл бұрын
Perhaps
@ua75215 жыл бұрын
No
@cornycornstar25525 жыл бұрын
No
@milamberyt5 жыл бұрын
Organized Chaos gave me the L
@Grandmaster_Dragonborn5 жыл бұрын
From losing to Spider-Man 2?
@cornycornstar25525 жыл бұрын
The dark Knight is joker's movie not Batman's
@deadtake26645 жыл бұрын
CORNY CORNSTAR but then Christopher Nolan should have called it The Crown Prince Of Crime
@cornycornstar25525 жыл бұрын
@@deadtake2664 shut
@cornycornstar25525 жыл бұрын
@Batman Fan shut
@Ali-vr2dj5 жыл бұрын
Batman Fan Only Batman Fans like us can understand the character.
@fishbas68385 жыл бұрын
@Bale Sahagun He was great but it had other good performances
@HugeAndy5 жыл бұрын
Best Batman and best Spider-Man played by the greatest actors to put on the mask.
@HugeAndy4 жыл бұрын
Same can be said for Keaton and Affleck was in some terrible movies. Don’t see the point. And that’s untrue for TDK there was plenty of character development given to him.
@darkseidwavyy4 жыл бұрын
@Bradyn Kerr People like to overrate something really stupid, they overrate The Dark Knight as a Joker film because it had the best Joker (Heath Ledger) and it’s more of a joker film 🤦♂️. I don’t even understand people these days!
@darkseidwavyy4 жыл бұрын
@@HugeAndy Keaton’s Batman was in 1 great movie and 1 good movie, Affleck’s Batman was in one okay movie, and 1 bad movie. Yes I agree, at least Batman has some character motivation and development to his character right?
@HugeAndy4 жыл бұрын
@@darkseidwavyy don’t even start
@mr.iiconic3 жыл бұрын
I think they're both meh versions of the characters and are only the best live action version. Neither are near their comics or animation counterparts.
@Grandmaster_Dragonborn5 жыл бұрын
"Why so serious?" "You have a train to catch." "All it takes is a little push!" "Here's your change!" Some men, just wanna watch the world burn.” "The power of the sun in the palm of my hand." "I believe: Whatever doesn't kill you simply makes you...stranger." "I will not die a monster!"
@JV-yq7dx5 жыл бұрын
“You either die a hero, or see yourself become the villain” “I believe there’s a hero in all of us”
@sarjeshkhadgi28413 жыл бұрын
"PIZZA TIME!"
@FejilaPalandy3 жыл бұрын
I missed the part where that's my problem
@Phillysavage2 жыл бұрын
@@FejilaPalandy Gonna cry 😈
@simpsonsquire19972 жыл бұрын
Rent?
@The_Real_Mr._Aziz5 жыл бұрын
The Dark Knight: Best DC Movie Spider-Man 2: Best Marvel Movie Both had the best live action comic book trilogies Let's keep it that way
@ChristopherSanchez-sp6ek5 жыл бұрын
It’s serious Mr Aziz
@ChristopherSanchez-sp6ek5 жыл бұрын
Can I work for you so that I can have some PIZZA TIME?
@BenjiM5145 жыл бұрын
Japanese Spider-Man 1000000000/10
@41dalex5 жыл бұрын
@The Senate yea, one of the best
@captaindeadpool3135 жыл бұрын
@Nima only good dc movie??? hmm. Time to wake up sleepy head. check IMDB for more.
@mrcalvin68815 жыл бұрын
The two GREATEST superhero movies ever made. The joy, passion, and satisfaction you get watching these cannot be topped by any of the other superhero flicks. Storytelling and filming making at its finest. Not up for debate!
@peterparker16835 жыл бұрын
The Dark Knight, Logan, and Spider-Man 2 will always be the Top 3 best comic book films of all time
@Grandmaster_Dragonborn5 жыл бұрын
Personally I'm not sure about Logan in the top 3, I'd say it's tied with The Winter Soldier.
@6hramdeoavinash7885 жыл бұрын
@@Grandmaster_Dragonborn no logan is better than winter soldier, the winter soldier is 4th
@chimiwimi83185 жыл бұрын
Des troyz it’s an opinion my guy
@Grandmaster_Dragonborn5 жыл бұрын
@@6hramdeoavinash788 I disagree but OK.
@nightowl98185 жыл бұрын
@@Grandmaster_Dragonborn I agree I think Winter Soldier not only possibly the best mcu movie ever bit also arguably the best Marvel movie ever made..... So far.
@winterfallstudios71015 жыл бұрын
I can't be alone in thinking that batman is a good character in TDK
@6hramdeoavinash7885 жыл бұрын
Not better than Peter parker
@BigZ-195 жыл бұрын
The joker is the only character people talk about. Batman suck in the dark knight
@winterfallstudios71015 жыл бұрын
@@6hramdeoavinash788 it was a while ago I saw spider man 2, and the dark knight is my favourite movie
@6hramdeoavinash7885 жыл бұрын
@@winterfallstudios7101 I'm talking about the heros
@winterfallstudios71015 жыл бұрын
@@6hramdeoavinash788 I know, what I meant was that I don't remember Peter that well
@ScrimpBoat5 жыл бұрын
The problem with MCU spidey is he relies too much on side characters or stark tech.. Sony spidey is just OG spiderman so you can make an actual movie.. spiderman 2 was and still is oscar worthy.
@ScrimpBoat4 жыл бұрын
Bradyn Kerr LoL. Just bring Raimi back please.
@NinjaWiener4 жыл бұрын
@Bradyn Kerr the problem with MCU Spidey is that it completely strips almost everything about the character from the comics to the point where they don't feel like the same characters or at least an adaptation of the character. The movies themselves, Homecoming and FFH are no Spider-Man 1 and Spider-Man 2. They feel like just another cog in the machine and Jon Watts has no style, flair and doesn't bring in any uniqueness to the table. With Raimi back to do Doctor Strange, if Marvel Studios gives him all the creative freedom, the MCU can get its hands on its first masterpiece.
@NinjaWiener4 жыл бұрын
@BALA KRISHNA Please read the early comics. He was a teenager for the first 28 issues only. Tom is still 16. And guess what? Teenage 616 was as mature and responsible as an adult while being very pessimistic of himself. I have no clue why you brought up finishing high school as an argument.
@NinjaWiener4 жыл бұрын
@BALA KRISHNA Oh okay man. Also, I'm very hopeful about MCU Spider-Man 3. I hope they can fix everything about a so far very inaccurate and an inconsistent character. I hope its a good movie.
@NinjaWiener4 жыл бұрын
@BALA KRISHNA Yeah that would be cool. But first of all they need to fix the characterization of Peter and Spider-Man. Its wayyy too off from the comics. And I hope they don't play the identity reveal off as a joke like they did with Aunt May finding out. I also don't want another movie with the same arc. Peter had the same arc in both Homecoming and FFH which was coming out of Tony's shadow. I hope the movie is at least decent like Homecoming. I don't want another disaster like Far From Home lol
@Ali-vr2dj5 жыл бұрын
My 2 favorite CBMs against each other. Okay this is gonna be A LOT of fun to watch.
@messicampeon10165 жыл бұрын
The Dark Knight Is the best
@stephano32115 жыл бұрын
Same
@ChristopherSanchez-sp6ek5 жыл бұрын
Red hood, same these are my two favs. Not even the overrated Endgame beats these two
@mivvy31825 жыл бұрын
Movie Theory did the Joker kill Jason Todd in the dark knight?
@ChristopherSanchez-sp6ek5 жыл бұрын
@Raider 2747 It's not really me hating on it, nor am I being "edgy" as how you put it. This is just my opinion on Endgame. If you like the film that's cool. Stop focusing on the small stuff.
@timekeeper04365 жыл бұрын
Can we have Doctor Strange vs Shazam!? I want to see Doctor Strange go up against something.
@CaptainBanana5 жыл бұрын
There is a channel called Screwattack for those comparison , btw Shazam is very OP and he will win .
@loganklein50315 жыл бұрын
Sadman Sporsho i think he’s talking about the movies
@timekeeper04365 жыл бұрын
Sadman Sporsho I’m talking about which is the better movie, like tis one (Spider-Man 2 vs The Dark Knight)
@jamarij58145 жыл бұрын
Kevin Byrnes naw it was fair
@jamarij58145 жыл бұрын
Kevin Byrnes Ben 10 vs green lantern could have been better tho
@marcelo74405 жыл бұрын
These are the two best super hero movies ever made, they both have some flaws but most importantly they both really stand out in some areas, which is why in my opinion it all comes down to preference, there are enough great things to say for both movies to make them sound like the best without having to nitpick the movie that you don't like the most. In The Dark Knight you have things like the best Joker ever in a live action film, a perfect casting for every character, amazing score and probably the best first 5 minutes in any movie ever. In Spiderman 2 you have the best casting of any comic book character (J.Jonah Jameson), the best aunt may in any film, arguably the best hero of any movie and also an amazing score. My point is that any answer to the question "which is better The Dark Knight or Spiderman 2?" should be accepted because really there's no right choice, there's only the choice that fits you best. Maybe you like a story telling masterpiece that completely changed the course of superhero movies for at least the next decade, or maybe you like the story of a young boy having to deal with the responsability that all superheroes have to carry and how that hero gives hope to an entire city at the expense of ruining the boy's personal life. Whichever one you choose you shouldn't try to make the other look worse because y'know you just don't need to.
@gavindalf25475 жыл бұрын
What's the best 5 minutes? I assume it's probably the interrogation scene but I just want to make sure
@marcelo74405 жыл бұрын
@@gavindalf2547 The best first 5 minutes i meant
@gavindalf25475 жыл бұрын
@@marcelo7440 Oh that too. Honestly the way the movie opens gives me chills every time I watch it, I love that scene
@razkable4 жыл бұрын
superman the original is pretty good man..from 1980
@marcelo74404 жыл бұрын
@@razkable 1978, and yes, it is the best Superman movie and one of the best Superhero Movies.
@TIGER-xk4gk5 жыл бұрын
This comparison will bring up some complaints but you did bring some good points and have made a reasonable explanation for how the cinematic universes started out
@lickenhuntsman53384 жыл бұрын
DC doesn't even have their own studio like Marvel Studios. WB have to make movies How pathetic
@desipop36544 жыл бұрын
I think Spider-man 2 alone is better than the entire Dark Knight Trilogy
@xxparadoxx39713 жыл бұрын
@george vos Marvel movies are overrated
@xxparadoxx39713 жыл бұрын
@george vos lol no it's the marvel movies that are overrated on another other level captain marvel made 1b thx to how overrated the mcu is and that movie is horrible
@genghiskhan76913 жыл бұрын
@@desipop3654 lol
@XxHUNT3RN4T0RxX5 жыл бұрын
Spider-Man 2 wins obviously because... *P I Z Z A T I M E*
@rayvee28375 жыл бұрын
its not about pizza.. its about sending a message...
@joseduran-jo5fb5 жыл бұрын
Fuck you
@sekmineballe5 жыл бұрын
jose duran ok shithead
@lickenhuntsman53384 жыл бұрын
Lol the dark knight fans are crying
@Mostacs4 жыл бұрын
@@joseduran-jo5fb what are you gonna do? Cry? They are both awesome movies 😂😂
@ianipoo5 жыл бұрын
Spiderman 2 vs The Dark Knight. And the winner is: Yes
@lickenhuntsman53384 жыл бұрын
Spider-Man 2 is the winner. The Dark Knight is a plot hole filled mess with half baked characters. Spider-Man 2 did great job with both protagonist and antagonist. On the other hand, Batman literally did nothing in the entire movie except taking the stupid decision at the end. One good thing that everyone will agree is Heath Ledger was amazing. But pretty much everything in Spider-Man 2 is near perfect.
@kafilsyed4 жыл бұрын
@@lickenhuntsman5338 are you kidding??? .......the dark knight is 1 billion times better than spider man 2
@Princeofthekoopas184 жыл бұрын
@@kafilsyed spiderman 2 every day
@kafilsyed4 жыл бұрын
@Smiths Lego Bricks how? Dark knight is way more realistic,better story,better character performance,better ending . Spider man 2 is very simple , nothing so special in it.
@kafilsyed4 жыл бұрын
@Smiths Lego Bricks dark knight has an IMDb of 9/10 and spider man 2 has an IMDb of 7.3/10 . You can see there is lot of difference and you should note that there are only four movies who got an IMDb of above 9 and dark knight is among them.
@luu06135 жыл бұрын
I saw Spiderman 2 after a long time right before I saw this video... and it's really a perfect movie!
@lickenhuntsman53384 жыл бұрын
I am glad Spider-Man won. Raimi's trilogy is amazing at portraying both hero and villain. On the other Nolan Batman movies has good villains but Batman is a terrible character.
@legotwoface4 жыл бұрын
The Dark Knight is better tho
@rigobertogallardo98504 жыл бұрын
Tatjana Velickovic both in my top 5 comic book movies of all time. They’re the top 2. I can’t pick
@legotwoface4 жыл бұрын
It's not perfect. The villain is shit the side characters are poorly written and it's way too goofy
@atribecalledlen35674 жыл бұрын
@@legotwoface you need help
@Coolgamer..3 жыл бұрын
I like both but Dark Knight wins for me
@Phillysavage2 жыл бұрын
Im gonna put some dirt in your eye
@micahbailey91025 жыл бұрын
I think he missed the point of the Dark Knight. The Dark Knight was never about the heroes journey like it was in the first movie. It was very much about identity, and what Batman had to be for Gotham, no matter if that makes him the villian, which is what Joker wanted. It was always about how Joker won, and how Batman and Gordon had to keep the image of Harvey clean, which backfires in Dark Knight Rises
@mattsell23614 жыл бұрын
Yeah I agree he literally said the story was bad cause Batman didn’t have a good arc but even tho I think he he wasn’t the focus of the story it was about joker turning Harvey and creating chaos and Batman trying to stop him by going above the law which is why the sonar stuff is great cause it represents Batman
@SasukeTurkey5 жыл бұрын
Dark Night is great but Spiderman 2 is my favorite comic book movie of all time. I agree with the result.
@razkable4 жыл бұрын
knight
@benhamilton36714 жыл бұрын
TDK is better
@arqumhussain80104 жыл бұрын
@@benhamilton3671 nah spiderman 2
@benhamilton36714 жыл бұрын
@@arqumhussain8010 cmon bruh TDK is better
@aryankaushik934 жыл бұрын
Dark knight
@Grandmaster_Dragonborn5 жыл бұрын
How have Spider-Man 2's effects not aged well? They look better than most of the shit we see today!
@mr.iiconic3 жыл бұрын
You dont actually believe this do you?
@mr.iiconic3 жыл бұрын
@@filoz2005 i mean Spider-Man 2 has pretty good effects and I don't think they've aged that terribly but they are nothing compared to the intricacy and photorealism of today's best CG. I've heard some nostalgia blind claims about these movies but this is the most insane one yet unless you just exclusively watch movies with bad CGI.
@cynicanarchist49234 жыл бұрын
Tobey Maguire is not best spiderman? He's the best period.
@maxchombo77574 жыл бұрын
No the Spectacular Spider Man, Spider Verse, and the comic book Spider Man are the best, he is just decent not really great
@whodat8794 жыл бұрын
@@maxchombo7757 he's the best live action spiderman. Its hard to compare animated and comic book spiderman to live action
@devandeva91284 жыл бұрын
There are no perfect live action spiderman till date Batman,Iron man, Thor, superman, captain America and maybe wonder woman has reached their heights in live action role
@lukeschroter93894 жыл бұрын
WHAT are you kidding me Tobey Maguire Spidey is better than then any of those you mentioned except Christopher Reeve as Superman Reeve IS and ALWAYS will be superman
@harishoraon67504 жыл бұрын
one reason to unsubscribe from this channel.
@spiderneil5 жыл бұрын
I think The Dark Knight is the better movie but I can't fault your logic for how you awarded the points.
@deadtake26645 жыл бұрын
spiderneil why is but in that sentence it should be and, also no
@Josegomez-md5qs5 жыл бұрын
You have a Spiderman profile pic why you complaining 😂
@messicampeon10165 жыл бұрын
@@Josegomez-md5qs Even Spiderman fans accept that Batman is better, so you can see how great is that film
@firefistdonuts32865 жыл бұрын
to be honest the only thing that carries tdk for me is the joker if you removed i would like the movie as much as a like the first avenger
@messicampeon10165 жыл бұрын
@@firefistdonuts3286 Is like yo say that Doctor Octopus is the only thins that Spiderman 2 has good
@Grandmaster_Dragonborn5 жыл бұрын
Most will dislike before the final result is explained. But not us...not us. Spider-Man 2 for the win!
@BIGDADDYRAY185 жыл бұрын
fuck no
@Grandmaster_Dragonborn5 жыл бұрын
@@BIGDADDYRAY18 "Language!" - Captain America.
@BIGDADDYRAY185 жыл бұрын
@@Grandmaster_Dragonborn Spiderman 2 is not bettet
@Grandmaster_Dragonborn5 жыл бұрын
@@BIGDADDYRAY18 Well I think it is, we all have opinions.
@BIGDADDYRAY185 жыл бұрын
@@Grandmaster_Dragonborn did you watch dark knight
@guytester53355 жыл бұрын
you cant compare these 2 films dude, it was a mistake, it's like comparing the sun to the moon. The moon is meant for the night, the sun for the day, they are created to work and perform their jobs perfectly in their own realms.
@hadesgaudy57465 жыл бұрын
Guy T yes he can compare these to he just did and I have a felling your commenting this before watching the video because if you did you would know why he felt like comparing them
@ucha94764 жыл бұрын
@@hadesgaudy5746 Shhhhhh.....
@divine11963 жыл бұрын
@@hadesgaudy5746 It doesn't make sense
@orangerichard565 жыл бұрын
I enjoy Spider-Man 2 more, but the Dark Knight is the superior one objectively speaking.
@imsomethingofascientistmys15665 жыл бұрын
It's all subjective
@bathcitytv58594 жыл бұрын
Bradyn Kerr no way it’s juss a masterpiece and the most intelligent storyline
@gemilangyulianto53555 жыл бұрын
Spider-Man 2 is a great superhero movie , the dark knight is a great movie .
@okay17754 жыл бұрын
Spiderman 2 is a great movie overall
@TheRobloxianTacoLord3 жыл бұрын
Spider-Man 2 is a great movie, Roger Ebert himself said it's not just a good superhero movie, but a fantastic film for those who don't watch superhero movies.
@okay17753 жыл бұрын
@@TheRobloxianTacoLord Yeah these dark knight fanboys are annoying and cringe. They think every movie is shit apart from the ones they like
@TheRobloxianTacoLord3 жыл бұрын
@@okay1775 I will never understand the obsession.
@jackdap6153 жыл бұрын
Spiderman 2 has the best superhero protagonist ever and it shows that a movie without an amazing villain could still be great with a protagonist. The protagonist makes spiderman 2 almost a great film already without including anything else.
@BigZ-195 жыл бұрын
Yep. Spiderman 2 is better
@JamesMathieson5 жыл бұрын
Is it though?
@41dalex5 жыл бұрын
@@JamesMathieson in a way yes
@JamesMathieson5 жыл бұрын
@@41dalex but why?
@41dalex5 жыл бұрын
@@JamesMathieson better story, theme and superhero. The dark knight is amazing but couldnt make batman seem interesting in his own movie. The movie is carried by the joker and its themes
@wayneborg67285 жыл бұрын
@@41dalex I disagree but I respect your opinion
@leorichter16525 жыл бұрын
why do i prefer spiderman 2 when everybody else in the comment section prefers tdk
@Grandmaster_Dragonborn5 жыл бұрын
I don't.
@wayneborg67285 жыл бұрын
Probarly becuase of alot more interesting storyline and heath ledger as the joker that's why me and everyone else prefer the dark knight although spiderman 2 was awesome as well.
@leorichter16525 жыл бұрын
@@wayneborg6728 that probarly true
@kernm64004 жыл бұрын
Spider-Man 2 is better in my opinion. The Joker is great but the parts without him get very boring. Meanwhile in Spider-Man you have so much more to watch.
@kernm64004 жыл бұрын
@Red I understand not everything is about action. I just believe that Batman can be very bland at times, but it is more like a Joker movie so it makes sense. Also I think Spider-Man 3 is a lot more fun but Spider-Man is better story wise.
@modmaker76175 жыл бұрын
Great. I am the one that suggested this video since 'Spider-Man' vs 'Batman Begins' video.
@6hramdeoavinash7885 жыл бұрын
That's a good one
@datbadatboidoi60925 жыл бұрын
everyone wanted this video although don't doubt you could have been the first to comment it
@timekeeper04365 жыл бұрын
He was going to do this anyway. Look back on his comment.
@modmaker76175 жыл бұрын
Yeah. Probably not the first but the most wellknown for this because original comment has almost 130 likes. Yes he was going to do it anyway so my excitement is gone.
@RainstormProductions5 жыл бұрын
I'm shocked that Spider-Man 2 won, but I'm fine with it since it's one of my absolute favorite superhero movies. It's hard to compare these two because they are both so different, but still both amazing.
@jose13neo5 жыл бұрын
Paul Robinson The movie with JK Simmons always wins.
@JohnSmith-sy6zm5 жыл бұрын
Paul Robinson As far as superhero movies go, my vote goes for "Spiderman 2", which I believes captures the tone and point of superhero stories. While some can enjoy it as fun escapism, we feel the stakes in Spiderman 2. Everyone has an arc, every motivation is clear, and each character is utilized to the best they can offer. The execution is unique, even to other superhero flicks. It's a more personal movie than someone trying to destroy the town, take over the city. And even then, we still get an symbiotic relationship between the city, and the guardian that protects it, when the subway train that Spiderman saves from death not only save him, but promise to keep his secret. In the Dark Knight, we get a cynical, noir-esque view of the good inside people. We still see people acting on good instinct when pushed to their limit, but we also see the antithesis in Harvey Dent. Going with the theme of "Chaos" in that movie, there is no real justice, no real vengeance, no real redemption, only what is. It's a mixed message we get at the end, where we're left to wonder if Gotham itself can still be saved. Tonally, this fits the Batman that most people know now (The Frank Miller post modern era of comics). Between a tragedy where all is lost or sacrificed for a semblance of hope, and a action/adventure film where the real villains, which are the temptations inside us to right wrongs in our own way, can be overcome in all of us...I'm going to go with the one that says all evil can be defeated, and that redemption can be found in us all. I'd say that's the heart of what a superhero story is about.
@marquirasheed5 жыл бұрын
John Smith man what an amazing explanation. I applaud you
@jessetaveras19485 жыл бұрын
@@JohnSmith-sy6zm so which movie do you prefer?
@ucha94764 жыл бұрын
You can't compare the two, they are two different genres, Spider man 2 is a superhero movie, where as The dark knight isn't so that's saying both movies cannot be greater than each other, movies are subjective.
@SWTobito07025 жыл бұрын
As like a 7 or 8-year-old when I watched Spider-Man 2 I always remembered Aunt May flat out telling Peter she knows. Guess it really was that obvious.
@unfunnyyenjen36115 жыл бұрын
I went into this thinking “The dark knight is obviously gonna win” but you changed my mind Great video mate!
@cinderluna5 жыл бұрын
Spiderman 2 is great. The Dark Knight is FANTASTIC. Not even a real competition
@firefistdonuts32865 жыл бұрын
nahh im good i like spider man 2 over it
@Jackson-jd1um5 жыл бұрын
both of these movies are masterpieces in movie history, they are better then anything the dceu and mcu will make (other then winter soldier)
@nicholasward29755 жыл бұрын
Joshua Ratliff yo thank you for specifically mentioning winter soldier. Every time someone knocks down mcu they always group in winter soldier. Winter Soldier is an ez top 10 superhero movie of all time.
@seamoose17315 жыл бұрын
@@Jackson-jd1um what?
@Mattsimilate5 жыл бұрын
@@Jackson-jd1um Mcu: Hold my Endgame
@SuperBatSpider5 жыл бұрын
Marvel's two best origins Spider-Man vs Iron Man
@spider-manunknown91934 жыл бұрын
Both are masterpieces of a film so both these will be in the top 4 best superhero movies.
@ezzzzzy38634 жыл бұрын
@Bradyn Kerr remove avengers shit....add LOGAN
@Grandmaster_Dragonborn5 жыл бұрын
Honestly I prefer Elfman to Zimmer, the train score and Doc Ock's theme really got to me in a way The Dark Knight never did.
@etnisanches25645 жыл бұрын
Yep. I prefer Elfman too, it's way more impactful, bright, colourful and memorable. In fact, I remember Spider-Man 2 as a whole more than Dark Knight.
@Kikirocy5 жыл бұрын
I think that Christopher Young actually did the train score.
@Grandmaster_Dragonborn5 жыл бұрын
@@Kikirocy As far as I can tell they both kind of did it; Elfman did an orginal piece and Young kind of added to it and that's the version we got. So it's both I guess.
@basedrei35294 жыл бұрын
What about the score at the end of TDK when the cops start chasing Batman.
@legotwoface4 жыл бұрын
Fuck you
@thefanwithoutaface81055 жыл бұрын
So according to you, it's perfectly okay for Batman to jut let dozens of people get shot by police before the police would get gunned down by the Joker's goons, while also allowing many more people on the boats to essentially die because the Joker was obviously gonna blow them up as well....because using an overpowered spying device is wrong. That is without a doubt, the dumbest thing I've ever heard in my life. You ever heard to extreme circumstances? Sometimes you have to do something that is "wrong" in order to help people. Funny how you decided to take stuff like that out of context for your flimsy argument.
@6hramdeoavinash7885 жыл бұрын
It is wrong
@thefanwithoutaface81055 жыл бұрын
@@6hramdeoavinash788 So, just let hundreds of people die because using some type of spy equipment, which we see Batman had already rigged to be destroyed afterwards is supposedly wrong. Yeah, because that makes total sense.
@macknight23525 жыл бұрын
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@marcelo74405 жыл бұрын
What amazes me the most it's that is never said or implied that what batman is doing is right, THEY ALL KNOW SPYING ON PEOPLE IS WRONG, but they HAD to make an exeption for the Joker because of the situation, not only the boats but because they thought he had kidnapped harvey.
@prakshep-lifeisawesome38285 жыл бұрын
Not exactly. Batman could had caught joker while he attacks people instead of spying. But he chooses the wrong way. It was Batman's failure that lead to mind conversion of dent. We have to accept that batman had failed in this point.
@XxHUNT3RN4T0RxX5 жыл бұрын
The Dark Knight is honestly overrated. For a movie called “The Dark Knight” it should be more about Batman and he sucks in it. Heath Ledger’s performance as Joker carries the movie and is the main reason why it gets so much praise. Spider-Man 2 got both Peter Parker and Otto Octavius right.
@mikehasabike5 жыл бұрын
Batman sucks at it? Yikes. Batman's moral code, goals, sacrifices in the movie made him a compelling character too. Everything in the movie is perfect. I'd say the same on Spider-Man 2. Both movies are the best in the genre in my opinion and I don't know which I prefer more because they're so good.
@redwolf19k455 жыл бұрын
You are a total dumbass
@lightyagami86455 жыл бұрын
You are a dumbass
@arthurmorgan18305 жыл бұрын
Batman was boring to me to and he kinda tool me out of the movie cause his voice always makes me laugh when he’s trying to be serious
@lightyagami86455 жыл бұрын
@@arthurmorgan1830 that's the only flaw for dark knight's Batman , his voice Tobey mcguire Spiderman is a bit too old to be Spiderman , MJ is a horrible horrible person in Spiderman 2 , otto should be way older than he actually is ,,story is not compelling at all compared to the dark knight .
@qballer825 жыл бұрын
The best Spider-Man is Josh Keaton or Yuri.
@V_For_Vigilante5 жыл бұрын
And Tobey
@fupalover5 жыл бұрын
90 animated series kids.
@NinjaWiener4 жыл бұрын
Best actor for movies: Tobey Maguire Best voice actor for cartoons: Josh Keaton/Christopher Daniel Barnes Best voice actor for games: Yuri Lowenthal
@craftymasterproductions42184 жыл бұрын
@@NinjaWiener I 100% agree.
@Lonect75 жыл бұрын
Organized Chaos: *gives Spider-Man 2 the win* TDK fanboys: Is that like a personal attack or something? On a serious note: yes, its disappointing to see your favorite comic book movie lose. OC ranked my favorite movie, Endgame, at #8 on his MCU list, but I moved on. This is his opinion, and you should move on too.
@robbieconnor61175 жыл бұрын
Yep I move on Mostly
@captaindeadpool3135 жыл бұрын
thanks for the advise, it helps.
@Wetpavement645 жыл бұрын
Its dissapointing because he completely glossed over The Dark Knight in the last section just to give Spiderman the win
@magnusprime9625 жыл бұрын
Some people move on from Endgame’s low ranking. But not us.
@nojaace91205 жыл бұрын
30 Minutes of endgame is better than dark knight in my opinion
@julienrolle40805 жыл бұрын
Giong in this i would say it is an ez win for DC Edit after the Video: Spiderman 2 was better than remember....
@Rayray-db6rz5 жыл бұрын
or maybe someone on the internet nitpicked arguments against batman and now you're opinion has switched
@omegadeadpool49875 жыл бұрын
@@Rayray-db6rz That feels like something a Marvel Hater will see coz he can't accept the fact. The only reason TDK fails in the sites it fails is because Christian Bale batman doesn't feel real and whenever the actor shines he is shrouded by Ledger. That is the strongest and the weakest part about this movie. Its a batman movie where batman isn't important
@legotwoface4 жыл бұрын
@@omegadeadpool4987 you know nothing about Batman. So you have no right to complain
@omegadeadpool49874 жыл бұрын
@@legotwoface Do you even remotely think that Christian Bale Batman is good. The best Batman to date is Batfleck. Every other Batman is weak, non imposing and always gets one upped by the lower class villains. Bale's first movie he is completely oblivious of Ra's Al Ghoul despite him being in front of him the whole time. Compare that to Batfleck who immediately has the every detail and even deduced the identity of Superman on first meeting. Batfleck even takes down and out an entire troop of Thugs on his own and his while Bale was struggling against Dogs. Give me one instance where Batman as a character is relevant for TDK
@legotwoface4 жыл бұрын
@@omegadeadpool4987 actually the Batman from Batman the animated series is the best
@3152ss5 жыл бұрын
Best superhero movies are 1. Spider-Man 2 2. Endgame 3. Infinity war 4. TDK 5. Iron man
@KrishayAgarwal5 жыл бұрын
I'd switch Winter Soldier for Iron Man but good list
@teejayabam77845 жыл бұрын
Then I'd switch Civil War for Winter Soldier
@purushothaman66985 жыл бұрын
Why is endgame even on the list
@fupalover5 жыл бұрын
No no no. TDK Infinity War DOFP Winter Soldier Avengers or TDKR.
@cosmicspider72505 жыл бұрын
Mine are:- 1. Into The Spider-Verse 2. Guardians Of The Galaxy 3. Spider-Man 2 4. The Dark Knight 5. Endgame
@Red7Ent5 жыл бұрын
Dude. The surveillance thing wasn’t glossed over. It was planted throughout the story, established as wrong, and then the system was destroyed. It is presented as a necessary evil to stop the Joker. It is essentially a win for the Joker, because Batman has to compromise. Also, it’s about the question of security vs. privacy. Safety vs. liberty.
@3Rayfire5 жыл бұрын
And it's no more problematic than a rich kid with unresolved parent issues beating the crap out of dudes on a nightly basis.
@ucha94764 жыл бұрын
@@3Rayfire that doesn't mean his doing it for no reason
@mavikartal77755 жыл бұрын
How about doing something different than Marvel vs DC like: -Disney vs Sony: Ralph Breaks the Internet vs Emoji Movie
@pradipsinhrana73195 жыл бұрын
We know how that's gonna work out
@khaledaakther50314 жыл бұрын
No way in hell the emoji move will win
@wanacrymaguire91863 жыл бұрын
Ralph breaks the internet easily wins
@CSSP_11885 жыл бұрын
"it's doubtful we'll ever gave a joker this good again" Joaquin Phoenix "hold my beer"
@bathcitytv58594 жыл бұрын
Joaquin Phoenix played a completely different version of the joker, I would go for Heath because it isn’t even his movie and he’s the main character it feels
@vootvoot91803 жыл бұрын
Heaths joker was much better than joaquin
@CSSP_11883 жыл бұрын
@@vootvoot9180 in your opinion
@psychepus-17155 жыл бұрын
spider-man 2 over dark knight any day
@Abhishek-tw8fr5 жыл бұрын
Oh yes :) ;)
@benhamilton36714 жыл бұрын
Afraid ill have to disagree
@JohnSmith-sy6zm5 жыл бұрын
As far as superhero movies go, my vote goes for "Spiderman 2", which I believes captures the tone and point of superhero stories. While some can enjoy it as fun escapism, we feel the stakes in Spiderman 2. Everyone has an arc, every motivation is clear, and each character is utilized to the best they can offer. The execution is unique, even to other superhero flicks. It's a more personal movie than someone trying to destroy the town, take over the city. And even then, we still get an symbiotic relationship between the city, and the guardian that protects it, when the subway train that Spiderman saves from death not only save him, but promise to keep his secret. In the Dark Knight, we get a cynical, noir-esque view of the good inside people. We still see people acting on good instinct when pushed to their limit, but we also see the antithesis in Harvey Dent. Going with the theme of "Chaos" in that movie, there is no real justice, no real vengeance, no real redemption, only what is. It's a mixed message we get at the end, where we're left to wonder if Gotham itself can still be saved. Tonally, this fits the Batman that most people know now (The Frank Miller post modern era of comics). Between a tragedy where all is lost or sacrificed for a semblance of hope, and a action/adventure film where the real villains, which are the temptations inside us to right wrongs in our own way, can be overcome in all of us...I'm going to go with the one that says all evil can be defeated, and that redemption can be found in us all. I'd say that's the heart of what a superhero story is about.
@evan99024 жыл бұрын
Wow, you are a genius. I also prefer Spider-Man 2.
@clevernickname33964 жыл бұрын
Every character in the Dark knight had an arc. Batman was fighting the issue of retirement after Rachel’s death. Lucius fox was fighting the corruption of phones and how they can monitor civilians. Harvey Dent had an arc on fighting his depression and coming out with it in the worse way possible. The joker had an arc about how he wanted to show the world about how “civilized” would stoop to his level when the situations were dire (it’s about sending a message). Rachel had the arc about if she was ever going to leave Harvey for Bruce. Gordon had a subtle arc about making his family think he was killed by jokers goons to serve a higher purpose (a contrary foreshadowing to when Batman makes Gotham think he killed Harvey so that he could serve a higher purpose in death). The mob had its arc which tied into one of movies main themes (escalation). Even the cops of Gotham had a small arc with debating if Batman was the hero or the villain when it came to the “criminal” hostages. I could go on so I’ll only sum it up in three sentences. The Dark Knight is far more quotable than Spider-Man 2 and has a better written dynamic between the protagonist and the antagonist (the belief of anyone can be good vs the belief of “some men just wanna watch the world burn”). The realism in the Dark Knight makes it more compelling and relatable to modern times than the quirky (and lovable) escape from reality in Spider-Man 2. (I’m getting tired of typing) Finally, The Dark Knight follows Dan Harmons story structure (NOT a hero’s journey story structure) to write the film. Also, the dark knight was a film about Harvey Dent which was referenced throughout the film leading into the climax and in its own title “The Dark Knight”. Marvel and DC will never find another director as good as Christopher Nolan.
@benhamilton36713 жыл бұрын
Well said man. I personally prefer TDK, but I think spider man 2 is the better superhero movie. TDK has superheroes in it, but it doesn't mean it's a superhero movie. That probably sounds confusing lol.
@evan99023 жыл бұрын
@@benhamilton3671 it makes sense. Spider-Man 2 is a more traditional superhero movie and that’s why it’s a better superhero movie. I prefer Spider-Man 2 but I acknowledge that The Dark Knight is technically the better made movie.
@benhamilton36713 жыл бұрын
@@evan9902 See? Two different fans having a civil conversation. If only the rest of the comments section could be like this lol.
@kylecarey94223 жыл бұрын
“Nolan isn’t the best visual director” inception sitting there awkwardly..
@kenshinhimura99605 жыл бұрын
Ya’ wanna know how I got these scars? From the results of this video.
@kernm64004 жыл бұрын
Spider-Man 2 is better imo. I absolutely loved The Dark Knight but Spider-Man 2 really connects with you and gets more relatable over time. The Dark Knight is very entertaining and has strong messages but again Spider-Man 2 has that connection and relatability.
@Emobullymaguire3 жыл бұрын
YOULL GET YOUR RENT WHEN YOU FIX THIS DAMN DOOR
@lilbigfan37823 жыл бұрын
Do you realize that the dark knight trilogy is not really close to the comic book batman and other superheroes? The dark knight trilogy is closest thing that you can relate in real life, which that includes crime and corruption. The dark knight trilogy has everything and everyone that is very relatable and only thing is relatable on spiderman 2 are the main cast characters.
@theraptor12993 жыл бұрын
PSSS HAHA spiderman 2 IS ALOT WORST THAN DARK KNIGHT WTF
@arqumhussain80102 жыл бұрын
@@theraptor1299 no
@theraptor12992 жыл бұрын
@@arqumhussain8010 yes? u are blind
@Grandmaster_Dragonborn5 жыл бұрын
The best trilogies ever ☺ Spider-Man: 9/10 Batman Begins: 8.5/10 Spider-Man 2: 10/10 The Dark Knight: 10/10 Spider-Man 3: 6.5/10 The Dark Knight rises: 8/10
@JV-yq7dx5 жыл бұрын
I mostly agree but I would give Spider-Man a 9 and Batman Begins a 8.5 and the dark knight rises a 8 maybe 8.5
@aaaaaaaaaalrightythen99533 жыл бұрын
Spiderman 3 is a 7-7.5/10 for me but I agree with all the other ratings
@divine11963 жыл бұрын
Ignore this loser u got this rating right but I think Spiderman 3 needs a 7 just for Bully Maguire
@aaaaaaaaaalrightythen99533 жыл бұрын
@@divine1196 i mean spiderman 3 had other good things going for it but yeah bully maguire definitely made it better and more entertaining lol
@cinnamonmycool12373 ай бұрын
Spiderman 3 is a 6.5 mate
@jonshukulli69445 жыл бұрын
Great video. The only thing I really disagree with is the fact u said tobey is easily the worst Spider-Man. That couldn’t be further from the truth. Raimi’s Spider-Man is straight ripped out of the stan Lee and Steve ditko era and even the John romita sr era of comics. The only differences are very superficial: he quips a bit less, he has organic webshooters. Raimi’s Spider-Man captures the themes of Spider-Man and his character perfectly. His grief, his struggle with duality, responsibility, how being a hero can ruin someone’s life, choice, consequences. Tom Holland and mcu Spider-Man lack nearly all of those things or only get them on a very surface level understanding. His lack of independence and his lack of grief or even acknowledgement of uncle Ben is highly inaccurate to the character. It’s typical seen as a disgrace of an adaptation in the Spider-Man community.
@OrganizedChaos145 жыл бұрын
You did notice how I called Tobey the best Peter Parker, right?
@jonshukulli69445 жыл бұрын
Organized Chaos yes I did. I disagreed with you calling him the worst Spider-Man for the various reasons I stated
@natty7735 жыл бұрын
Also I kinda like how also the Raimi films showcased how Spider-Man gets when he's pissed off. It's something that happens in the comics frequently and no other version got on that aspect either.
@鄧焯文2 жыл бұрын
Because Spider-Man first villain should be mysterio and scarecrow than green goblin than Spider-Man bane aka venom
@knull2782 жыл бұрын
This Virgin Tobey fangirl never watched Spider-Man No Way Home in his life….💀☠️
@MelihhMertt4 ай бұрын
Spider Man 2 touches my heart more than TDK
@kristianolsenlarsen5 жыл бұрын
Spiderman 2 is great, but if the Dark Knight doesn't absolutely crush it we got a problem
@41dalex5 жыл бұрын
The story in spiderman 2 was wayy better. The dark knight was carried by the joker and its theme. The dark knight doesn't even make batman seem good.
@estano_21925 жыл бұрын
Alejandro Diaz not true, it shows how intelligent and powerful the joker is. Having a better villian than hero is always better in all movies. You should feel the villian on top of him to awake emotions of not wanting the hero or anyone close to him die (reason why captain marvel sucked)
@gamma35605 жыл бұрын
Kristian Larsen you gotta problem
@firefistdonuts32865 жыл бұрын
@@estano_2192 having good villain is important but the hero is the star of the film you should make him good too if not better
@neumanasare88645 жыл бұрын
@@estano_2192 Joker isn't even better than doctor octopus.. at least this Spiderman villian sacrificed his life
@JV-yq7dx5 жыл бұрын
Even if Spider-Man 2 doesn’t beat tdk i know what can Spider-Man 2.1
@Immersive_mods4 жыл бұрын
Wtf spiderman beat Batman in this video don't u see
@thepunisher22325 жыл бұрын
#6: Spider-Man 3 #5: The Dark Knight Rises #4: Batman Begins #3: Spider-Man #2: Spider-Man 2 #1: The Dark Knight
@infamousshinkicker69245 жыл бұрын
Same, I would just put Spider-Man 2 over TDK
@abrn63415 жыл бұрын
Same but I'd put Spider-Man 3 above The Dark Knight Rises
@marvelvsdc66245 жыл бұрын
Good list
@0percent3783 жыл бұрын
@@infamousshinkicker6924 nope
@redaxer29085 жыл бұрын
The swat fight in the dark knight is incredibly underrated.
@JV-yq7dx5 жыл бұрын
Care to explain?
@Abhishek-tw8fr5 жыл бұрын
It's nowhere near the train scene in spiderman 2
@a.agastya3 жыл бұрын
@@Abhishek-tw8fr dude ik it’s iconic but that swat building fight was intense as fuck
@genghiskhan76913 жыл бұрын
@@Abhishek-tw8fr the train scene is nowhere near the interrogation scene in TDK
@Abhishek-tw8fr3 жыл бұрын
@@genghiskhan7691 the interrogation scene in TDK isn't an action scene, what we are talking about here are action scenes. Batman in that scene just bonks joker onto a wall couple of times , not much action there.
@Alex-eo7my4 жыл бұрын
I once again have absolutely no idea how you find Zimmer's score anywhere close to as good as Elfman's. And then you act like it is an obvious win for Batman??? How do you listen to that score and pretend it is better than Elfman's?!?! Am I the only one here, because I know I am not. Spider-Man has probably the most iconic superhero score while Dark Knight's is hardly memorable.
@benhamilton36713 жыл бұрын
wow calm down
@antoniobrooks4745 жыл бұрын
For me: Story - Spider-Man 2 Themes - Spider-Man 2, sorry, I know some ppl love the social commentary in TDK, but that was too much corruption, even for Batman, he kinda proved The Joker right Hero - Spider-Man 2 Villain - The Dark Knight Supporting Cast - easily Spider-Man 2, TDK's is mainly used for exposition or to move Bruce's story along. Spider-Man 2's each have their own arcs and are fleshed out Action - lmfao easily Spider-Man 2 Visuals/Effects - The Dark Knight Production Design/Cinematography - The Dark Knight Music - can't decide
@ohplsstop96345 жыл бұрын
Yh but the Joker is there to prove batman can't always win
@rekhavinod33715 жыл бұрын
Story spiderman 2. Really. Are you dumbass imatured kid. Grow up.
@They_Hit_The_Pentagon5 жыл бұрын
You gave themes to Spider-Man 2 because the joker was proved a little bit right That was kinda of the point because I. The dark knight the joker wins Either A. They have to admit the joker corrupted the white knight Or B. They keep the illusion of an incorruptible white knight but it is all based on one big lie
@antoniobrooks4745 жыл бұрын
@@They_Hit_The_Pentagon well I guess I'm looking at "theme" more so as the hero's journey.
@They_Hit_The_Pentagon5 жыл бұрын
Antonio Brooks ok I see what you mean
@lacrartezorok49755 жыл бұрын
Sorry, but despite that YES, McGuire is the best Spider-Man, in the 2nd movie he is mostly passive. He retires because he psicosomatically loose his powers, not because he chooses to, is only when he chooses to be a hero when he gets his powers back. Bruce Wayne is always making choices, and he fails, but keeps fighting despite everything. He aspires to create a city that doesn't need him so he can retire with Rachel, only to loose her, but keeps fighting and sacrifices his image and even his morals, everything to give Gotham the future he thinks it deserves. The 2 movies are about the cost of being a hero, but in this case (contrary to the comics) Batman pays a higher cost.
@AllLuckz5 жыл бұрын
I respect your Opinion, I can see how Spiderman could take it with your scoring system Both are still Outstanding Movies
@joaoluis75505 жыл бұрын
Looking back like this, The Dark Knight has a excelent villain, a good suporting cast, and a Batman. I really feel like this incarnation of Batman is a little bit Bland. Don't get me wrong, i absolutelly love TDK, but even Affleck's Batman has some depht, apart of "look, my parents are dead". The story is good, but the villain is what makes it shine. Spiderman has, indeed, a great villain, a good suporting cast and a great version of It's hero. Honestly, i prefer Tom Holland as Spiderman and Peter, but Tobey shines a lot with this movie. It's a story that really shows a more intimate side of the hero, rather than a unidimensional character (in their movies, not in comics) like... Well... Captain America, Superman, and Batman here. I love TDK, and personally, i prefer it instead of Spideman 2, but being honest, is not that much of a "EPIC PERFECT MASTERPIECE", as some people blindly try to sell you. Nice analysis, man, keep the good work.
@KrishayAgarwal5 жыл бұрын
Have you not watched Winter Soldier? That's literally the definition of taking a char out of their comfort zone and making him feel like a whole relatable character, you can't possibly call Cap unidimensional in the movies after that
@Jordan-mq4wj5 жыл бұрын
dark knight is an epic masterpiece what you on about
@Tht-mw1ek5 жыл бұрын
Edit: Spiderman 2:horrible villain horrible supporting cast everything is horrible its a really bad movie
@Anubis-xk4ht5 жыл бұрын
Dark knight had a terrible supporting cast joker was the only interesting and memorable character in the movie the rest were so forgettable
@legotwoface4 жыл бұрын
@@Anubis-xk4ht that just tells me that you never saw the Dark Knight
@redaxer29085 жыл бұрын
Spiderman becomes Spiderman again in Spiderman 2. Batman quits being batman at the end of the dark knight.
@JuniorStarH2O5 жыл бұрын
DC: GOAT vs Marvel: GOAT
@spiderneil5 жыл бұрын
Spider-Man 2 vs Into the Spider-Verse The two best Spider-Man movies
@thehomiedan63785 жыл бұрын
YESSS!!!!
@realar4 жыл бұрын
@connextro Okay, that's just being blind. Spider-Verse IS one of THE best Spidey films PERIOD.
@ComicContent20025 жыл бұрын
Spider-Man 2 was a bit better in my opinion, but I wouldn’t call it corny. I still thinks it holds up to a somewhat serious dramatic degree.
@benhamilton36714 жыл бұрын
All 3 movies are kinda cheese tho
@benhamilton36714 жыл бұрын
TDK is just perfect
@ComicContent20024 жыл бұрын
@@benhamilton3671 false false and more false
@benhamilton36714 жыл бұрын
Really guy Which one was nominated for 8 oscars?
@ComicContent20024 жыл бұрын
@@benhamilton3671 nah TDK is great but Spider-Man man trilogy was not cheese
@jessehipp25315 жыл бұрын
How did you give story and themes to spiderman the one flaw that you saw in batman is about as big as big as the punch flaw in spiderman and for the rest of the dark knight you completely misunderstood what that story was about that point easily goes to the dark knight.
@mech_lor47285 жыл бұрын
Aayyy u smart my dude
@Grandmaster_Dragonborn5 жыл бұрын
The story wasn't about Batman even though he was the main character, it relies too much on the villian and as a result it deprives the hero of any depth and makes him seem cliché. Spider-Man 2 perfectly focuses on all the characters and give them amazing storylines.
@PirateKingRoger-x1y5 жыл бұрын
@@Grandmaster_Dragonborn thats true without joker the dark knight would be a mediocre movie like the first avenger
@Grandmaster_Dragonborn5 жыл бұрын
@@PirateKingRoger-x1y Well I wouldn't exactly say it would be mediocre, but yeah nowhere near as good.
@V_For_Vigilante5 жыл бұрын
Myloprime First avenger was absolutely trash
@MrNobleSix5 жыл бұрын
Spiderman 2 has always been the movie that inspired me to understand that no matter how much life can beat you down you can still strive to be the best you possible. both top tier films but i side with spoderman 2 :)
@jessetaveras19485 жыл бұрын
Right dude
@JackFax3 жыл бұрын
But the Dark Knight has a deeper meaning. It shows that anyone can become a monster in certain circumstances. "All it takes is a little push"
@KaizokuKawaki3 жыл бұрын
@@JackFax yeah it explains but in a negative way. In my personal opinion Logan explains the same topic in much better way. But both TDK and Logan are not inspirational for the general audience. But Spider-Man does and says there's a hero in everyone. The problem with TDK is that it only focuses on Joker and Batman (especially Joker), but Spider-Man 2 has a story arc for each and every character. Dr.Octopus, MJ, Peter Parker, JJ Jameson, Harry Osborne. With TDK it looks like Everyone is coming in the story of Batman. But in Spider-Man 2 it looks like Peter is coming in the story arcs of others. And they both have the famous dialogue, It's Pizza Time ( I will give your rent when you fix this damn door is my all time favourite and it was the only positive thing in Spider-Man 3) and Why So Serious. Both movies have their own glitches. In TDK, we just wait for Joker, and any scene without him is boring. And in Spider-Man 2 MJ was not even needed, I believe that without MJ Spider-Man 2 would have been much better.
@JackFax3 жыл бұрын
@@KaizokuKawaki Okay what about Harvey Dent and Rachel? Commissioner Gordon? Everyone played a role in the movie
@KaizokuKawaki3 жыл бұрын
@@JackFax bro, it would be too long to explain why TDK is better than Spider-Man 2 and why Spider-Man 2 is better than TDK. Both are great in their own ways. There are two ways of explaining which is better. 1) Best superhero movie between the two 2) best movie between the two. For first one it's obvious that TDK is a supervillain movie and Christian bale as Batman was playing a supporting role but still Ledger won the The best supporting actor academy award. In my opinion, the best Batman movie from a superhero point of view is Batman (1989). Yeah it's a bit strange but Michael Keaton's first Batman movie seems better because it gives us the comic book feel and Idk why It's so much underrated in 21st century. And if we talk about Spider-Man 2, then it's a completely different light theme movie if we compare it to Guardians of the Galaxy or Iron Man. The best thing about Spider-Man 2 is its humour and everyone love it. One more thing about Spider-Man 2 is that it has the best superhero moment of all time, the train fight scene. Let's come to the second way. As just as a movie, I think TDK is better. It is different from its prequel and sequel. And the best part of this movie is every single scene of Joker. But it's also the negative point of it. Because the scenes without Joker are boring and Joker in a nurse dress was the only proper humour in it. Christopher Nolan did a great work, but TDK didn't felt like a superhero movie, atleast for me. The next villain who is equally Psycho and at the same time clever after Joker is Joker himself. If you loved TDK and Joker (2019), then please watch Venom: Let there be Carnage. You may say that why I am comparing This with TDK, then answer would be that it's the only dark movie of Marvel in 2021 and the plot of Carnage is too dark and horrifying because he killed his grandmother, wanted to kill his mom and even wanted to kill his girlfriend because he does whatever comes to his mind.
@newgood81145 жыл бұрын
Can you do at the movies spiderman 2 and spiderman far from home?
@6hramdeoavinash7885 жыл бұрын
Spiderman 2 wins easily
@6hramdeoavinash7885 жыл бұрын
good do you actually think far from home is better that is full of shitty jokes, the first half of the movies was kinda shit until they revel mysterio
@jhoughton66335 жыл бұрын
Yes
@David-vd7kt5 жыл бұрын
Spiderman far from home has breath-taking effects, better acting and better script. Spider-man 2 doesn't compare to it in any possible level.
@yasereid1685 жыл бұрын
David Beiner please stop talking shit
@salmanahmed27135 жыл бұрын
You have my full respect Organized Chaos.
@skramjet44825 жыл бұрын
I think the theme of the dark knight is that everyone truly is corruptable. The moment Harvey turns.. the moment he flips that coin, the joker has won. That’s the point.
@loganmichaeldouglas5 жыл бұрын
@efe yıldız That's the point of the whole scene! "The only morality in a cruel world is chance." The Joker takes everything away from him and the only way Harvey knows how to cope is to cling to "chance" as an explanation for all of the shit that just happened to him despite how much good he did and what he stood for. If he shoots the Joker regardless of what the coin lands on, he's disregarding the only code he has left.
@ucha94764 жыл бұрын
@Moon Knight I get what your saying but it is his character
@deadtake26645 жыл бұрын
I’m still with Thor: Ragnarok for best superhero movie
@skramjet44825 жыл бұрын
For solo movies, Ragnarok or the Winter Soldier. I’d personally pick the winter soldier. But I think infinity war is just as good as both of those in its own way.
@81u95 жыл бұрын
Does civil war count as a solo movie?
@surround835 жыл бұрын
@@81u9 yes it does. It is overall a captain america movie.
@spiderneil5 жыл бұрын
Ragnorock isn't even the best movie in the MCU.
@legendary39525 жыл бұрын
Ragnarok is the most overrated mcu film period
@MarioSonicPhillyFan700 Жыл бұрын
Both fantastic movies but I like Spider-Man 2 better by a little
@kekula54056 ай бұрын
It’s a known fact in marvel that spiderman pulls his punches. In fact, it was octavius himself who discovered it when he switched bodies with peter
@dominikk36435 жыл бұрын
Joker, for me, was the best thing in Dark Knight, everything else was ok or goofy.
@dominikk36435 жыл бұрын
@A A yes, that too
@Jackson-jd1um5 жыл бұрын
facts if the joker wasn’t in it then that movie would not be as remembered as possible
@dominikk36435 жыл бұрын
@@Maelkor I don't think he meant to say anything bad, he was just pointing out Joker's brilliance
@GauravYadav-bf7qj3 жыл бұрын
@@Jackson-jd1um take Spiderman out of Spiderman 2 and no one cares. Dude it's just so stupid. Dark knight is mainly about joker so obviously he would make the film great
@divine11963 жыл бұрын
Harvey was good wtf
@jackdenton95125 жыл бұрын
You still have to think that tdk is 11 years old and s2 is 15 years old and are still the 2 two best we will ever see
@messicampeon10165 жыл бұрын
My favorite superhero movies
@bordignon895 жыл бұрын
Your missing some of the themes of the dark knight about breaking gotham. There’s plenty of good videos that explain it better than me I think u should watch
@cjbossin975 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@divine11963 жыл бұрын
This was a stupid explanation in the dark knight Batman is not the main character the 2 main characters are Harvey and Joker he kinda used Batman to give Spiderman 2 the point
@bordignon893 жыл бұрын
@@divine1196 man i commented this 2 years ago, I don't remember what ur refering to but yes, batman is the main character. To say otherwise is stupid and factually wrong. Joker is the main antagonist and harvey is a side character/secondary antagonist. That doesn't diminish there value in the movie its just what they call it. And I was refering to the themes of tdk so idk why u commenting abt batman not being the main character.
@b_a_t_m_a_n_ Жыл бұрын
5:43 toby McGuire isn't the best spiderman compared to andrew or tom?! Tom's spiderman is the worst version of peter parker and spiderman. (Though that's the fault of storytelling failure, not any fault of holland.)
@gotmog225 жыл бұрын
> Spider-Man 2 > Good > Even comparable to the Dark Knight AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
@lukekrivosh40335 жыл бұрын
gotmog22 exactly the dark knight is a masterpiece
@ayushshah21035 жыл бұрын
gotmog22 both are masterpieces but it's hard to compare them. Spider-Man 2 is the definitive light hearted superhero movie and Dark Knight is the definitive dark super hero movie
@gotmog225 жыл бұрын
Yeah, take off JK simmons as JJJ and all of Raimi's trilogy is trash that has rotted the brain of every Spider-fan ever since the 90s
@41dalex5 жыл бұрын
@@gotmog22 take out Heath Ledger and you have an average movie. He carried the movie and batman wasn't interesting. Joker and Harvey were interesting
@firefistdonuts32865 жыл бұрын
@@gotmog22 j.k simmons is the icing on the cake .if you don't like something that's fine but to say it has rotted the brain of spider man fans just proves that you are a clown
@They_Hit_The_Pentagon5 жыл бұрын
I think you might have misinterpreted a lot of things in the dark knight so I recommend you rewatch the movie after reading some of the comments or watch some other people’s videos on the dark knight to see if you agree ( not trying to be condescending so I hope it doesn’t come off like that)
@blackulous53884 жыл бұрын
Hero - Spider-Man 2 Villian - The Dark Knight Themes - The Dark Knight Action - Spider-Man 2 Overall Story - This is a bit tricky but I'll have to go with Spider-Man 2
@justdoit39284 жыл бұрын
I lost it when you preferred tdk theme over spider Man 2.
@spiderman-xj6yr4 жыл бұрын
@@justdoit3928 yeah the theme is just so nice of spiderman 2 But the tdk is just as good
@ThatGuyChoco3 жыл бұрын
I always found Spider-man 2’a story to be strange. How come he loses his powers, for no actual reason...
@Emobullymaguire3 жыл бұрын
@@ThatGuyChoco did you hear what Ock said? “If you keep something as complicated as love bottles up inside, it’ll make you sick”.
@Emobullymaguire3 жыл бұрын
@@ThatGuyChoco and thst he was at his lowest point in life.
@YoungNFresh4You5 жыл бұрын
When it comes down to it Spider-Man 2 has a simpler story which works well for it. It displays the struggle for Peter’s life but in all honesty Peter doesn’t change by the end of the movie. He learns but does not dramatically change from this. Rachel’s death in the dark knight, the tragic change of Harvey Dent, and Joker’s eventually victory over the way Bruce had thought the world was gave TDK a much more complex story. Even the greatest of writers can find imagery, complexity, and parallels in the chemistry between Batman’s “Justice” beliefs and Joker’s “anarchy” beliefs. The truth is Spider-Man 2 is simply a great super hero movie, and the Dark Knight is just a great movie with a super hero in it. It’s hard to compare the two but I wouldn’t say Spider-Man has a better story, just a better superhero story. EDIT: I love the literal shit out of both of these movies. I’m glad this video was made.
@Shubbhaaam3 жыл бұрын
TDK and Spider Man 2 are the best superhero masterpieces movies ever created in the history Both have iconic dialogues You wanna know how i got these scars? You have a train to catch
@mrtoon12354 жыл бұрын
OMG THE DARK KNIGHT IS BETTER 🤬🤬🤬
@jordanvenning3 жыл бұрын
Spider-Man 2 isn't even in the same league as The Dark Knight
@mania42703 жыл бұрын
Yes it is. Some believe its even better. It handles its characters better, the arcs make more sense, the action is way better, and the villain is way better written. The dark knight has the joker but its performance that hooks us. Not the way his character is written. Honestly I think the dark knight being "realistic" is kinda what makes ppl overhype it
@billyboleson28303 жыл бұрын
It absolutely is
@somnathsaha32693 жыл бұрын
@@billyboleson2830 No..
@Iron-Man_2 жыл бұрын
Is superior
@georgevos44022 жыл бұрын
You are right its so much better they ain't even comparable
@JustAnotherVatsal3 жыл бұрын
I'd say TDK. But spider man 2 is REALLY close
@Slice20994 жыл бұрын
Still the two best superhero movies to ever be made
@jeffscurrdale12833 жыл бұрын
logan’s better than both but these are the best three no debate
@Slice20993 жыл бұрын
@@jeffscurrdale1283 no
@vootvoot91807 ай бұрын
@@jeffscurrdale1283no Logan is trash 🗑️🤮 It’s not even close to spider-man 2 or Dark Knight
@ГошоГиЦъка5 жыл бұрын
4:20 Harvey Dent, CAN WE TRUST HIM???
@LastLighthouse5 жыл бұрын
9:19 Oh by the way, Y-O-U-apostrophe-R-E means YOU ARE!! Y-O-U-R means your!!!! -Ross Gellar
@OrganizedChaos145 жыл бұрын
I realized that later. Bah!
@LastLighthouse5 жыл бұрын
Oh ha ha!! 😂😂
@ΝίκοςΠοταμούσης5 жыл бұрын
The dark knight is a legendary movie
@messicampeon10165 жыл бұрын
And Is better than Spider-Man 2
@Abhishek-tw8fr5 жыл бұрын
Both spiderman 2 and TDK are masterpieces . But I prefer spiderman 2 and is my favorite movie
@ezzzzzy38634 жыл бұрын
Dark knight so overrated, i prefer Spider-Man 2
@0percent3783 жыл бұрын
@@ezzzzzy3863 no
@0percent3783 жыл бұрын
@@Abhishek-tw8fr TDK GAVE HEATH LEDGER JUSTICE
@Sunkcostfallecy5 жыл бұрын
Spiderman 2 has more heart, and there's no arguing needed whatsoever!
@legotwoface4 жыл бұрын
Spider-man 2 was shit
@Emobullymaguire4 жыл бұрын
@@legotwoface there are some people who are just dumb and you’re one of them. Accept that Spider-Man 2 is better
@Emobullymaguire4 жыл бұрын
@@legotwoface also,Gonna cry?
@vootvoot91807 ай бұрын
@@legotwoface**Dark Knight** was shit
@legotwoface7 ай бұрын
@@vootvoot9180 ok, but why though?
@wolvieinactive3 жыл бұрын
Best DC Movies: Batman Begins and The Dark Knight Best Marvel Movies: Spider-Man 2 and Logan
@jacksuggh86643 жыл бұрын
This is what I’ve seen to notice that differs Spider-Man and Batman fans. Spider-Man fans seem to care more about the individual and character of a story while Batman fans seem to be more interested in the world around the character.
@agi2384 жыл бұрын
4:00 finally someone realizes this.
@weirdgaming28975 жыл бұрын
Let's go!!! I knew spider man 2 had this
@benhamilton36713 жыл бұрын
unfortunately for you, history won't see it that way.
@danielcastaneda29833 жыл бұрын
@@benhamilton3671 i wouldn't be so sure of that the Raimi films have a lot going for them even after all these years. Spiderman memes alone have a good presence, and the Train scene is perhaps the best superhero scene ever, just mentioning J.K. Simmons makes people smile
@Kev245 жыл бұрын
Before this video: I prefer the dark knight After video: I prefer the dark knight
@messicampeon10165 жыл бұрын
Me too This person is very stupid and knows nothing, not even a joke Spiderman 2 comes to The Dark Knight, what a fool
@JV-yq7dx5 жыл бұрын
Alex Franco what’s wrong abt Spider-Man 2😂😂 Great character, story, theme, action, sounds effects, music, visuals, humor, protagonist, antagonist.
@Kev245 жыл бұрын
Juan V nothings wrong lol i just personally prefer tdk
@JohnSmith-sy6zm4 жыл бұрын
Batman is not even a Knight!!
@JV-yq7dx4 жыл бұрын
John Smith neither is daredevil, but season 1 and 3 are damn near perfect
@npc00110 Жыл бұрын
Can't we just agree that both are amazing movies?
@OrganizedChaos14 Жыл бұрын
I agree that they are
@connorcobb51222 жыл бұрын
Spiderman 2 is the best superhero movie ever made. Dark knight is 3rd for me behind winter soldier.
@ronaldellis57935 жыл бұрын
Honest to goodness, I looked this up yesterday because I couldn't remember if you'd done this bout, saw it and put it in my watch later, you UPLOADED this yesterday 😂 what are the odds?!