Doc Ock's voice get's so much more quieter after being cured. Almost like he felt like he had to talk louder than the voices in his head.
@Kodes5342 жыл бұрын
Never thought about that, I like that theory
@WarGrowlmon182 жыл бұрын
Probably
@kathrynrhodes77852 жыл бұрын
Also he’s just angry all the time lol
@alceratops68532 жыл бұрын
That makes so much sense!
@breathtakingsamurai9812 жыл бұрын
I think that it felt for Otto like having a Schizophrenia or something like that.
@SimplyChris Жыл бұрын
This version of Doc Ock will forever be my favorite.
@jaredruff9823 Жыл бұрын
Mine too
@loganbigmo Жыл бұрын
This version meaning Molina in general, or this version as in NWH portrayal specifically?
@CRLTV721 Жыл бұрын
Same! 👍
@milesbbop9563 Жыл бұрын
This movie is horrible. Script is horrible. DoC Ooc was much better in Spider-Man 2. Where he belongs. Not in these horrible marvel universe movies.
@SimplyChris Жыл бұрын
@@milesbbop9563 You are welcome to your opinion. Me and countless others love it and think it's one of the best Spiderman movies.
@Audi_Fanboy962 жыл бұрын
The “it’s so quiet” and “how can I help?” Is so genuine, I can’t help but shed a tear at each line
@watcherman2222 жыл бұрын
Yep. He's really grateful.
@BooBop19872 жыл бұрын
@@watcherman222 And he became the only character out of the 5 Villains who did thanks Peter for curing him.
@watcherman2222 жыл бұрын
@@BooBop1987 and the best part for me is when he got cured, he immediately offered to help Peter in curing the others and he made good on that offer in the final battle.
@BooBop19872 жыл бұрын
@@watcherman222 Yeah, he sure did! And that's why Doc Ock Storyline is very special to the film.😊
@THall-vi8cp2 жыл бұрын
Octavius still living up to what he told Peter in Spider-Man 2: "Intelligence is not a privilege, it's a gift. And you use it for the good of mankind."
@lordofthenerds662 жыл бұрын
I love that the first thing he wants to do after being cured is to help the others!
@sethrigdon172 жыл бұрын
Once a doctor, always a doctor
@justalpha91382 жыл бұрын
Me too! Ugh that was great!
@Joseph-mw2rl2 жыл бұрын
@@sethrigdon17 he's not a medical doctor
@cardinalchaos22782 жыл бұрын
@@Joseph-mw2rl pretty sure he has a doctorate so probably a doctor.
@instantwins24yt692 жыл бұрын
Well, he is a doctor.
@Smiley0.12 жыл бұрын
Lol, I love Norman casually offering Peter a job from another universe, he's like. Different universe no biggie.
@tailedgates92 жыл бұрын
Norman rules. XD
@andrewli66062 жыл бұрын
Multiversal travel in the main comic universe is as easy as pressing a button. Spider-Gwen commutes to Earth-616 for college because her secret identity was compromised on her native Earth-65.
@axelnilsson51242 жыл бұрын
Maybe American Chavez can transport him to Normans new timeline one day
@Smiley0.12 жыл бұрын
@@andrewli6606 well for me honestly I think it would be hard to get used to so I won't try living in a different universe unless it's a really bad situation.
@Smiley0.12 жыл бұрын
@@axelnilsson5124 you know, she's something of a universe traveler herself.
@batmanvsjoker77252 жыл бұрын
“It’s so quiet...” Man that got me, almost made me tear up. The moment you realize how long his tentacles were manipulating him. The moment you realize he just needed them to shut up. And the emotion in his eyes...
@TonyTylerDraws2 жыл бұрын
Well, he got teleported in from right before the end of Spider-Man 2. What’s scary is that he wasn’t Doc Ock for long. A few days. Maybe a week.
@MrCCollins19932 жыл бұрын
@@TonyTylerDraws Yeah, they know we know that but I really think the movie played on us knowing these characters for 20 years. It's almost the much older spirts of the characters than strictly the characters from the confines of their movies...
@arneworlund2 жыл бұрын
@@MrCCollins1993 facts… ik they are pulled straight from their universe but it seems like more time has passed and he’s been living with it
@fbcpraise2 жыл бұрын
Really great acting by Molina.
@akondar2 жыл бұрын
It was subtle, he would use we instead of I alot. And in context it makes the look on his face in his own movie at the end all the more painful.
@Michael-bl4no2 жыл бұрын
Al Molina’s take on Doc Ock is perfect. He nails it, despite the absurdity of the character himself, and adds a human and emotional gravitas that other actors might have just phoned in. Doc Ock in comics has always been kind of goofy. Molina plays it seriously (for the most part) and knocks it out of the park!
@edwarddeguzman32582 жыл бұрын
and makes Doc Ock's turn in to the Superior Spider-Man that much more believable
@WalkerRileyMC2 жыл бұрын
He's come a long way since stealing the idol and leaving Indy for dead.
@BooBop19872 жыл бұрын
I love Alfred Molina as our Dr. Octopus. He is one of the most sexiest characters that I ever seen in a Spider-Man Film.🙂
@LegendarySpaceRipper2 жыл бұрын
Molina made a great Doc Ock. I used to like Octopus in Spectacular Spiderman animated series. He was sometimes goofy but he could be serious as well. I like characters like him because he was not evil but someone with his knowledge could easily do a of evil. I wish they would keep Molina in MCU with the others as they would be a great team. It has powerful and intelligent characters that could do a lot of good and not just as heroes.
@jwill58922 жыл бұрын
@@WalkerRileyMC he kind of hit a rough patch though when he started attacking those nudists on that beach
@BlameNate2 жыл бұрын
"Remarkable...the technology AND you..." That was definitely Norman Osborn showing genuine respect to Peter's scientific intelligence. Goblin wasn't in control yet.
@thegamingcomrades16692 жыл бұрын
Goblin was always in control, just letting Norman think he's in control while he stalks a new prey while watching & hearing everything with his perfect disguse to find out how to hurt him the most
@МаксБурый-р2ю2 жыл бұрын
He still naive and stupid for trusting Electro and Lizard who openly said they wanna take over Neverminding the 50/50 of Norman
@TheEddagosp2 жыл бұрын
@@thegamingcomrades1669 It'd also pretty par for the course for it(?) to flatter someone, while also subtly insulting them because Peter hadn't noticed yet. Like a "So smart, yet so gullible."
@BlameNate2 жыл бұрын
@@thegamingcomrades1669 Fair point, but what I meant was that was Norman talking...rather than Goblin putting on an act.
@TheFallofTheEleventh2 жыл бұрын
@@thegamingcomrades1669 yeah it’s sort of 50/50. Goblin wasn’t “in control” until Peter’s sense kicks in, THAT is when Goblin fully takes control over Norman, until then he was basically watching Peter and analysing him to find his weakness which was Aunt May pushing him to be compassionate which is everything the goblin isn’t
@ij13762 жыл бұрын
There's something about seeing a villain get the ever-loving snot beaten out of them...but being "cured" altogether is also something to see.
@_gungrave_68022 жыл бұрын
Well except for certain villains I mean there are some who will never be cured. Hell just take Joker as an example who many have tried to cure but they all fail. Joker is basically a psychotic version of Loki.
@ninjanibba42592 жыл бұрын
@@_gungrave_6802 I think Harley Quinn show got it close for me seeing how different he’d be
@MusicFan7522 жыл бұрын
@@_gungrave_6802 Batman white knight comics kind of go at that approach and somewhat pretty good.
@harryrose99612 жыл бұрын
@@_gungrave_6802 joker was temporarily cured once, interesting storyline :)
@Sonicteenhedgehog2 жыл бұрын
Dr.Drakken:"0:31"
@natedagreat192 жыл бұрын
“Intelligence isn’t a privilege, it’s a gift. To be used for the good of mankind.” Dr. Octavius immediately after being cured: “how can I help?” He’s why S2 is the best Spiderman movie.
@StarWarsMoments Жыл бұрын
That's why this is the best Spider-Man movie.
@BooBop1987 Жыл бұрын
Plus Dr. Octopus is one of the best characters ever in Spider-Man Film History. With a great arc!
@cunningsmile4166 Жыл бұрын
Gift and privilege backwards there
@bombkita11 ай бұрын
You're calling a tom holland spider man the best? Yikes 14 year old found.@@StarWarsMoments
@dannynguyen391310 ай бұрын
@@cunningsmile4166 Depends on how the phrase, "To be used for the good of mankind" is viewed. If it is a stipulation, then yes, it's not really a gift, more of a privilege. But I think Otto meant it in more of a guidance tone, as he was a teacher saying it to a student at the time... possibly even a plea. Please use it for the good of mankind, now that you technically have free rein to do with it as you please.
@willh73522 жыл бұрын
Dude, Alfred Molina. Hats off to you for making this literally perfect, couldn't have asked for this any other way.
@BooBop19872 жыл бұрын
That is the reason why that he is the best part about the movie.
@amythistxue12 жыл бұрын
the scene of him and Toby that calls back to Spiderman 2 still makes me tear up a bit, just feels like he is talking right to you
@marlyblackwater14132 жыл бұрын
For sure. I never knew just how much I missed Alfred as Doc until I saw this movie. I swear, he was absolutely made for this role.
@BooBop19872 жыл бұрын
@@marlyblackwater1413 And we are all honor to see him again to come back and reprise his most famous character of all time.
@oscaraburto33412 жыл бұрын
@@BooBop1987 I was very happy to watch Alfred molina. I had no idea he was returning before even watching the trailer that revealed him.
@B1tcharp2 жыл бұрын
No way home shows that most of the spider man villains aren't evil by nature but are turned evil by a psychological means. The way they handled this movie in that way is great.
@drunkdonutboy2 жыл бұрын
And yet it shows how flawed that kind of thinking is at the same time with Goblin
@batonowskii2 жыл бұрын
@@yimwaili5425 This guy is definitely on meth
@Demaad2 жыл бұрын
Green Goblin-Dissociative Identity Disorder (Split Personality as Goblin) Doc Ock- Schizophrenia (“voices” of tentacles in his head) Lizard-Split Personality with Lizard form/identity Electro-Powers amplified his anger and grand delusions that stemmed from his own insecurities and sense of inferiority Sandman-Anger/Trust issues along with maintaining human form from powers (more of a physical problem to cure instead of mental)
@Shiirow2 жыл бұрын
when everyone is a victim of things rather than a villain of their own accord... its as boring a story to tell than if everyone is mustache twirling supervillain. some villains just need to be villains without some sob story to explain away their villainy.
@Cetra292 жыл бұрын
Except that is not how Octavius was in SM2. The tentacles spoke with him and convinced him. He himself was consciously thinking that was justified after they told him what had priority but that is the point: He was still having his conscious thoughts. They just convinced him. Here it looks like they mind controlled him and made him angry which he was not even in the movie. Otto in SM2 beat the tentacles because he was not literally mind controlled like a puppet but because Peter told him that what he thought was flawed and then it took him only like 20 seconds to control the arms again. Here he had to be cured instead of just be convinced of morals. And no, him losing control over them and then being talked into a different mindset is not the same as mind control. Edit: And of course there is always someone answering nonsense even though the entirety of the product speaks a different language. That is youtube at its best.
@justinjaime73272 жыл бұрын
I absolutely loved how it showed that the villains really weren’t bad people. And it was so heartbreaking to see how Norman and Peter were getting along so well before Goblin took over
@BooBop19872 жыл бұрын
But sadly it's was short lived.
@thudthud54232 жыл бұрын
@@BooBop1987 In the end, Norman was cured, but it was clear that he was broken. "What have I done?" He left the 616 universe realizing he had murdered May Parker and taken Peter's mother figure from him. Wilem Defoe didn't put a big relieved smile on Norman Osborn's face. He gave the character a great sense of guilt.
@Arturo-gh1on2 жыл бұрын
@@thudthud5423 For real tho, even if the Goblin is gone he left Norman with a major guilt leaving him in a state on how can he atone for his mistakes
@DartLuke2 жыл бұрын
It works only for Norman and Otto, others are criminals, especially Sandman
@TCStink32 жыл бұрын
@@thudthud5423 the MCU is earth-19999. 616 is the original comics universe.
@TonyTylerDraws2 жыл бұрын
I love how they made Norman likeable. He’s the first victim of the Goblin, tbh
@alexandrefrauches1322 жыл бұрын
Indeed. In the comics and other versions Norman is always show already as corrupt CEO and abusive father, with most of the drama coming from Peter having to fight the father of his best friend rather than Norman situation with Goblin. In the movies, while he is not saint (he does ignore Harry and show favoritism to Peter more than his own son), he is not a monster like Goblin, who represents his inner anger and fear of failure and lost.
@tartfuel2 жыл бұрын
In excellent storytelling, the villain is never just evil or corrupt for no reason. They view themselves as righteous and the hero of their story. No one is born a villain. They become one due to circumstances in their life up to that point. By humanizing the villains in the MCU, the writers added depth to those characters. This film was a terrific addition to the MCU.
@maxpowers44362 жыл бұрын
His greed created the goblin. Hyde cannot exist without Jekel.
@alexandrefrauches1322 жыл бұрын
@@tartfuel Exactly. Sure, it's possible to have villain who are just bastard but that doesn't mean they can have interesting backstory to explain where that evil comes from nor a motivation that people can understant and even connect to something we relate to, because characters, like any form of art, comes from real place and is by understanting this places it creates the connection between the characters and the public, making them interest in see where the story goes next.
@alexandrefrauches1322 жыл бұрын
@@maxpowers4436 Not just his greed but also Norman arrogance as well. When he said to Peter in Spiderman that they are not so different, he was not totally wrong, since they are both men who were bullied and betrayed by society (peter was victim of bully and Norman was fired by his company board). The difference is that Peter is humble and, when things go bad to his life, he just adapts himself to the situation, while is scared from failure which results in him being corrupt by Goblin and unleash his anger towards those who in his eyes ruined his life.
@thetruej78722 жыл бұрын
The whole theme of this movie was about second chances. The villains got second chances. Even Andrew & Tobey in a way got a second chance. Andrew got the chance to saved a loved one from falling to her death and Tobey got the chance to make a cure and save Norman.
@barisbal77822 жыл бұрын
not just that. it was also about shouldering the consequences and learning to rise above your failures
@eoinoconnor57832 жыл бұрын
After stopping Tom from killing Norman/Goblin, Tobey’s Peter could have a second chance at a renewed friendship with Harry
@barisbal77822 жыл бұрын
@nguy19 exactly, they didnt undo any past events. raimiverse and webbverse was basically 5 episodes of ''what if the villains wouldnt pulled out of their own universes''
@johansmallberries98742 жыл бұрын
And the meta aspect that Andrew and Toby as actors got a second chance to play spider-man, most poignantly with Andrew, going from least liked Peter to now many fans most liked Peter.
@Tarkus_H2 жыл бұрын
Tobey got a second chance to cure Flint Marko instead of trying to revenge-murder him.
@thebatman73472 жыл бұрын
Otto being good as he was at the beggining of spider man 2 was so wholesome, and how he helps the spidermen at the end... it just feels right for him
@BooBop19872 жыл бұрын
The only good Character out of the Former Members Spider-Man Villains who does have a very good arc. That's for sure.🙂
@gamester512 Жыл бұрын
@@BooBop1987 Sandman wasn't exactly evil either, since he didn't intend to kill Uncle Ben, it was an accident. And he consistently showed remorse and regret for the pain he put May & Peter through. To me, that makes him about as likable and sympathetic as Doc Ock. Particularly considering the fact that at the end of Spider-Man 3, after being defeated, Sandman just comes clean about the entire thing and even states that he's not asking Peter to forgive him, he just wanted Peter to understand the situation he was in. I honestly liked the whole thing about Sandman just being a loving father who was desperate to find a way to save his daughter.
@queenfan452 жыл бұрын
I love how as soon as Doctor Octavius is done rejoicing, he immediately gets to work with a “how can I help?”
@instantwins24yt692 жыл бұрын
Once a doctor, always a doctor.
@BooBop19872 жыл бұрын
That is so darn sweet of him!
@thebat42069 Жыл бұрын
"Intelligence is not a privilege; it is a gift. And you use it for the good of mankind." - Otto Octavius, 2004
@EricTheRedWiseman2 жыл бұрын
Almost 2 decades and i can finally say Octavius finally got his closure and freedom back. To me, he was the first sympathetic villain in my life i truly felt bad for as a kid growing up watching the earlier spider man movies. This feels complete and I'm happy he got a second chance in the end. This movie completes me.
@BooBop19872 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I feel bad for him too in Spider-Man 2. And we all need to thank Sam Raimi for making a very good character that we really do care about.🙂
@mushroomhead36192 жыл бұрын
You didn’t feel bad for Mr Freeze?!
@monmothma3358 Жыл бұрын
Yeah I remember how he started out as a really nice guy (there was something about his wife, too, she died maybe?) and I felt bad about him. Dock Ock doesn't even look different despite all the years since then. Good make-up, I guess. I haven't even seen this movie, just clips, but maybe I will now.
@favoritesubscriptions8502 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, you sort of feel bad for Norman but he at least knew completely that he could go insane from doing what he did, and did it anyway
@felixbostley5358 Жыл бұрын
@@mushroomhead3619 that's DC not marvel...
@theheroproject452 жыл бұрын
I always felt sooo bad for Otto, seeing how tortured he was at the end of Spider-Man 2. To seeing the weight of the arms psychologically lifted off his shoulders was tear jerking for sure!
@BooBop19872 жыл бұрын
Yeah, so do I Buddy!🙂
@ironboy32454 ай бұрын
god, that last 'I WILL NOT DIE A MONSTER' hit so hard when i was a boy
@christophermendez43222 жыл бұрын
Imagine how it sounded in Octavius’s head the last few seconds before Peter fixed him; screams, screeches, squeals. Then in an instant just pure silence
@shocktun3s729 Жыл бұрын
Well, probably not just screeches and squeals. The tentacles talked in Otto's mind, as shown in the novelization. They are capable of talking, expressing their emotions and acting human. Should I send the part in the novelization where Otto started re-gaining control over his mind in a comment? Cause it's some pretty interesting stuff.
@royalcogark Жыл бұрын
@@shocktun3s729 I'll follow up on this one with a please do, friend! That's something I'd love to read, if you still have it handy.
@daynechastant10 ай бұрын
The bible talks about a "peace that passes all understanding." To feel that kind of peace after being driven by the hardware for so long...it must be overwhelming.
@alive4metal7312 жыл бұрын
I loved how Norman is totally immersed and in complete awe of the MCU's technology. He is a man of science after all.
@blackout36812 жыл бұрын
You could say he’s something of a scientist himself
@ajdominguez10022 жыл бұрын
@@blackout3681 beat me to it lol
@lumapop82452 жыл бұрын
@@blackout3681 i just found this comment and was just about to say this exact thing
@Nezdragon2 жыл бұрын
We were all thinking it!
@kap16182 жыл бұрын
God, Alfred Molina is so charmy. The dude is in his late 60s and yet he still looks like the sweetest man you will ever meet.
@BooBop19872 жыл бұрын
You got that right Buddy!😊
@Stevonniewolf31132 жыл бұрын
Alfred Molina is one of my favorite Dr. Octopuses!
@galihyuga23782 жыл бұрын
Well actually the movie using cgi on molina's face so he looked exactly like in the tobey's spiderman 2
@jaredruff98232 жыл бұрын
I say, I would so love to meet him some day soon.
@brittanyc.45402 жыл бұрын
Me, too! I love him as Doc Ock when I was a kid when I saw him in *Spiderman 2* and now I love him more after watching *Spiderman: No Way Home* and I want to give Mr. Molina the biggest hug he’ll ever remember!
@thetruemonarch93542 жыл бұрын
I really love everything in this scene. Alfred Molina looks like he actually just awoke from a nightmare, the way his lips quiver before he says "I'd almost forgotten", like he's on the verge of tears. Every line he delivers is on point. Later when Goblin takes over and he says "Norman no..." it's heart wrenching because you know it hurts him more than most to see Norman losing himself, not just because they were clearly friends in this iteration, but because he knows first hand what it's like having your own mind and body out of your control.
@sophiecooper18242 жыл бұрын
I agree with everything ❤
@calebsawyer07192 жыл бұрын
@@sophiecooper18240:39 Which "reckless fool" at that part was he referring to? Norman or himself?
@shocktun3s729 Жыл бұрын
Friends in this iteration...? Well, eh... In the novelization for Spider-Man 2 it is said that he found Harry more tolerable than his father, who's death he wasn't mourning in the slightest. My theory is that the whole experience he went through in Spider-Man 2 changed his opinion of others.
@AriThecraftydragon Жыл бұрын
Maybe. Or maybe not friends, but fellow scientists who respected each other's work. And yes, seeing Norman lose himself again, knowing first hand what it's like, that, "Norman, no" hits home.
@sarahbostrom9358 Жыл бұрын
@@shocktun3s729 Maybe he was just being a tsundere
@BooBop19872 жыл бұрын
Dr. Octopus is truly the best character in the whole title movie. Hands Down.😊
@danielhaire66772 жыл бұрын
I always have found the way this Doc Ock is treated in the original movies and here as interesting as the comic version is a sociopath with little to no redeeming features.
@BooBop19872 жыл бұрын
@@danielhaire6677 That is the reason why that I love the Movie Version of Dr. Octopus the best.🙂
@superjackster01652 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Everyone loves and is giving all the praise to Green Goblin. But Doc Ock was the highlight of the film for me. He’s my favorite Spider-Man villain
@BooBop19872 жыл бұрын
@@superjackster0165 Amen Buddy!🙂☺
@bryant75422 жыл бұрын
Gobby was my favorite. He's so lit
@vivianaguilar218818 күн бұрын
His "How can i help" actual mase me tear up. He sounds like you came to write a research paper about him and he's glad to help you write something greater
@fletcherhamilton31772 жыл бұрын
_'Says the reckless fool who turned himself into a monster!'_ And then that look of subtle enmity that Norman gives Ock - I can't tell if that's Norman or actually Goblin right there . . .
@soxpeewee2 жыл бұрын
I think it's supposed to be Goblin
@TheRedMan772 жыл бұрын
I think it's both of them.
@thebiggunce2 жыл бұрын
Well Doc was in a similar situation to Hulk where he and the arms can have a hand on the wheel
@samanthawright95892 жыл бұрын
People have to remember that Goblin & Norman are separate entities.... They were able to help these people, but be careful in real life, not everyone "just needs help" some like the goblin & the tentacles ARE bad without manipulations.
@krishan87352 жыл бұрын
I think that's Norman. Mainly because, when Doc Ock is cured he says "Otto?" in a sympathetic and kind voice that Goblin would never do. Also, if he did change, Peter would've sensed it. I think the moment he changes is just after this scene, where Otto talks to Norman about how it feels to be rid of his darker half, to which Norman replies that it'll be "just me", but in a slightly gobliny way, that most wouldn't recognize if they didn't know (and right after that scene we get the spider sense scene, so yeah)
@michaelvillarama75842 жыл бұрын
0:42 Green Goblin: Oh sh*t he's on to me!
@legion42682 жыл бұрын
"Remarkable...the technology and you..." "I'm grateful, my dear boy" Norman and Otto love every version of Peter. I love this.
@colinz2263 ай бұрын
I like the little detail how octavius didn't respond to "doc" and only actually started moving when Peter said "Dr octavius". Doc Ock is no more, and Doctor octavius has returned.
@zanzmiracle49862 жыл бұрын
0:10 i hope that is a foreshadowing of the next plot from the next movie of Spiderman
@KalibreSteelblast3 ай бұрын
That genuine smile on Osborn's face is heartbreaking. He's so sincerely proud of Peter's success, and... it makes what happens later hurt so much more.
@gloriasomma4036 Жыл бұрын
1:29 the sam raimi defining violin's that start playing mixed with tom hollands theme was beautiful.
@Rachif-kf8cp9 ай бұрын
Otto's dear boy always gets me.
@ponglenis9273 Жыл бұрын
I loved how they did doc ock and sandman in this. Both actually were friendly with peter in the end of their movies, and now they were the ones helping peter out
@tornadochaser2457 Жыл бұрын
Sandman is actually quite cold in the film considering his expected and somewhat supported helpful demeanour, abandoning Peter when things go haywire as the Goblin attacks, and simply wanting the box to go home as opposed to help in battle in the finale. I don't think it suits his character, as theoretically, his attitude should almost match, if not match, the kind attitude that we see in Doc Ock, albeit with a colder, more hardened slant. However, I do like that a character is colder and more selfish - Everyone being helpful would feel unrealistic and even goofily cheesy. I just don't think this suits Sandman's character.
@TheLastVoodooMan2 жыл бұрын
I love how Norman is genuinly happy to see Peter succeeding, how different things could have been if he never went through with his body enhancement test
@seiggrainhart47192 жыл бұрын
Or, if it worked properly and didn't shatter his psyche.
@CallMeKevan Жыл бұрын
@@seiggrainhart4719the goblin serum is basically an incomplete version of the super soldier serum that made captain America. The incomplete serum basically did almost the same thing in the Raimi universe as it did in the MCU universe. It enhanced the person but also gave them a second personality that takes over. In the MCU, it's Banner/Hulk and in Raimi, it's Norman/Green Goblin.
@Steve-vf7se2 жыл бұрын
Doctor still kept his arms. A remarkable homecoming scene to see in this spectacular moment. I love all the movies I've seen back in 2002. Spidey still got it
@BooBop19872 жыл бұрын
He is so darn lucky to be the only character of the movie who will keep his powers all the way in this film!
@LeaderoftheFates2 жыл бұрын
They are kinda fused to his body due to the accident.
@LegoReader12345hello2 жыл бұрын
@@BooBop1987 too bad he only has three mechanical arms now
@WarGrowlmon182 жыл бұрын
Those things are fused to his spine. Peter can't fix that
@TimeMasterOG Жыл бұрын
Well yeah... They are fused to his spine
@bradwoods3712 жыл бұрын
1:25 he makes those expressions just the same as 18 years ago.
@luiscorpus75032 жыл бұрын
I love how at the end he’s like “how can I help?”
@therandomnessstrikes14352 жыл бұрын
I love how they handled Doc Oc. His tentacle were affecting his mind thanks to the chip that prevented that being fried on his experiment. So when Peter installs the new chip, his tentacle are no longer affecting his mind. His reaction to the voices in his head being gone are heartbreaking. I love how he immediately says “how can I help?”
@LaMortDeLaMusique Жыл бұрын
I'm choosing to believe that after they all went back to their respective universes, Tobey's Spider-man recruited Doc Ock and Norman into his own Avengers team. Doc still has his arms that he can use to help, and Norman still has his technological expertise and probably has the physical enhancements that came from his experiment, just now without the Goblin inside his head.
@KasaiWolf072 жыл бұрын
After Spider-Man 2 this felt so amazing seeing Doc Ock get a second chance after almost 2 decades.
@BooBop19872 жыл бұрын
We all love this dude so darn much!
@siddharthanand5652 Жыл бұрын
I absolutely loved it how Doc immediately went back to his old, helpful personality... he never really was a villain!!!
@flash672 жыл бұрын
One of my absolute favourite scenes in the whole movie.. Alfred Molina just kills it here he makes it just so perfect
@BooBop19872 жыл бұрын
Yeah he sure did. And he is one of the best parts about this movie.🙂
@Froggyman14510 ай бұрын
"It's so quiet..." I'm not crying, we are.
@28godzilla2 жыл бұрын
There’s a strong reason why Dr. Octavious is my favorite in this film…
@BooBop19872 жыл бұрын
Yeah, so do I!
@chefbanjo81399 ай бұрын
Alfred Molina and Andrew Garfield just walked on set and casually delivered some of the best acting to ever appear in the MCU, and I appreciate them for that.
@giorgiolarriva48142 жыл бұрын
@0:19 I like how that quick look at Peter is almost similar to how Norman reacted to finding out Peter (tobey) needed a job in the first Spider-Man movie
@thesirenB310 ай бұрын
Otto was so good in this movie, it made my heart break when Toby saw him
@jillhorton94582 жыл бұрын
That's the great thing about spider-man, he's pure hearted. Compassion makes a hero, as much or more than powers do. ❤💙
@BooBop19872 жыл бұрын
Yeah you got that right Buddy!🙂
@TheKyrix822 жыл бұрын
Which is good. Because you really don't want to see Peter when he stops playing nice. Because then you remember that he can hold his own with, and against, the Avengers
@kellisuzuki88892 жыл бұрын
I love how doc oc turned into a puppy after he was cured. so adorable he was.
@BooBop19872 жыл бұрын
That is a very cute thing to say!😊
@christianfrost8660 Жыл бұрын
Well Goblin agreed too. You could kind of see it at the start of his first film, before the arms, he was prickly to new people, but once he got to know Tobey's Peter, he Uncled him. Once again, once Tom's Peter replaced his chip and given him the ability to think for himself again, Otto spent the rest of the film trying to protect him and Tobey and Andrew. They should right a spin off comic book series of Tobey's Spiderman and Otto as a duo.
@Pheebeee_2 жыл бұрын
"Says the reckless fool who turned himself into a monster" I reckon that's what brough Green Goblin back out.
@bryant75422 жыл бұрын
I think whenever they were talking about "fixing" each other Goblin came out, especially when Electro had the device put on him. He comes out when Norman is threatened usually, but he could've easily been faking it. He nearly tricked Peter into getting a blade to the back in Spiderman 2002.
@thegamingcomrades16692 жыл бұрын
IMO at the start up to this point Norman was never truly In control, goblin just took the passenger seat to study his prey closely to find what's keeping Peter going too far. Goblin could've taken back over anytime but instead played the Long game
@Martin227882 жыл бұрын
I think he came back when they were alone in the room.
@christianfrost8660 Жыл бұрын
No that was Norman, because he was hurt by that comment, you could see, Goblin would have probably taken that as a compliment.
@brogadierthethird77902 жыл бұрын
I know nobody asked, but when I first got on antidepressants ... my first words were "it's quiet" and it felt so good.
@a-bomb37692 жыл бұрын
The Octopus is cured 2:03 Now that is awesome
@BooBop19872 жыл бұрын
You got that right Buddy!😊
@a-bomb37692 жыл бұрын
@@BooBop1987 💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💥💥💥💥💥🕷🕸🕸🕸🤟🤟
@jaredruff98239 ай бұрын
Good to have you back, Otto.
@anthonythedubstepgamer2 жыл бұрын
I was left in shock in this scene because I thought Dock Ock was dead when he was cured because I thought they were trying to adapt the concept of Dock Ock dead but the arms take over and still control him entirely
@DBProds962 жыл бұрын
obviously not
@aryan77672 жыл бұрын
bruh u legit thought he was dead and looking healthy and speaking until now
@anthonythedubstepgamer2 жыл бұрын
@@aryan7767 I mean it’s not like really realistic but not far fetched either I just figured the arms were making the body live off the last nutrients and shit in his system temporarily
@aryan77672 жыл бұрын
@@anthonythedubstepgamer haha no worries thats cool
@SuperDuperNick Жыл бұрын
I love how before Aunt May dies, she at least got to witness ONE villain get cured, I love her expression at 2:11 like she’s proud of Peter in excitement for helping other people
@skat43882 жыл бұрын
Dude ock was always my favorite villian seeing him happy brought me such joy
@BooBop19872 жыл бұрын
I love this character so darn much!🙂😊
@Mugen044510 ай бұрын
There was a time years ago I was mad at Sony for not selling Spiderman back to disney. Now I thank god that Sony did the right move and kept Spidey safe. This movie alone is testament to it.
@alexisdominey64872 жыл бұрын
I love how the music stops the moment the chip activates. And starts off soft when he realizes how quiet it's gotten.
@BirdNerdFilms Жыл бұрын
“Remarkable. The technology and you” -Norman Osborn Wholesome!
@58lukum2 жыл бұрын
This movie made me cry as much as Endgame did. That speaks volumes.
@Arturo-gh1on2 жыл бұрын
Same here, Otto’s actor showed a great sense of relief and freedom from the mechanical arms that was controlling him.
@TheSCPStudio2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it speaks at how manipulated you are into thinking emotions = a good movie. Endgame was decent but NWH was nowhere near as great as it could've been.
@Arturo-gh1on2 жыл бұрын
@@TheSCPStudio endgame had its best and sad moments, but moments like these where we see an old friend come back to us freed from his/her evil ways are nostalgic
@kulio12142 жыл бұрын
Get help dude.
@gagetaylor1922 жыл бұрын
@@TheSCPStudio This movie could have easily just been one massive nostalgia trip where they bring back old characters shortly for no real reason. The movie did so much more than that with the characters. Involved all of them and added to them in ways they didn't realistically have to do. NWH is the only spiderman movie constantly making me debate if it can take spiderman 2's title as best spiderman movie. Because it very well could.
@darthjump2 жыл бұрын
Willem totally looked at the camera at 0:24
@siutadru Жыл бұрын
The way he portrays Dr.Octopus and Dr.Octavius differently is beautiful.
@daviddelrosario5127 Жыл бұрын
You're 1 step ahead when Doc Oc calls you "Dear Boy". You know you got His trust.
@BrendanJSmith2 жыл бұрын
1:01 I can't help but feel Tom's delivery and facial expressions here are supposed to be homages to Marty McFly.
@dycast85612 жыл бұрын
I believe he actually said a while back he used the character as inspiration. Might’ve been around when Homecoming was coming out
@nathancruz91722 жыл бұрын
2:12 I’m glad doc ock finally got cured.
@BooBop19872 жыл бұрын
Yeah, you are right about that my Friend!🙂
@sunday14092 жыл бұрын
Peter should have executed him. He was mean
@nathancruz91722 жыл бұрын
@@BooBop1987 thanks.
@WarGrowlmon182 жыл бұрын
Anyone who has ever seen SPM2 agrees with you
@jaredruff9823 Жыл бұрын
Octavius was worth saving most.
@leechmiller10722 жыл бұрын
Molins's performance of Doctor Octopus is so good. A whole movie could be made just about his character.
@BooBop19872 жыл бұрын
Truly the only character out to the 5 Villains who has a Storyline from start to finish.
@610Hobbies Жыл бұрын
I'm not a MCU hardcore fan (I haven't watched like 3/4s of it), but I used to think nothing could surpass Endgame, then this movie came, honestly a historic masterpiece in film history.
@dennisseah94032 жыл бұрын
I never knew that Octavius and Osborn actually knew each other in the Raimi universe. Did spiderman 2 mentioned it?
@willh73522 жыл бұрын
Harry sponsored Otto's work in Spider-Man 2, after Norman's death. I'd like to assume that with them being both scientists, they knew each other prior to Oscorp.
@peter-josephlamusitele62962 жыл бұрын
@@willh7352 in the game Otto use to work at Oscorp inventing most of Oscorps best technologies but Norman took all the credit
@sonsofstretford38662 жыл бұрын
@@peter-josephlamusitele6296 they cofounded Oscop, Octavius and Osborne being the Os
@willh73522 жыл бұрын
@@peter-josephlamusitele6296 Very true, this is evident throughout the PS4 Spidey as well, just realized
@KodachiC2 жыл бұрын
It was something they added to this movie, but it does make sense they would know each other in some capacity.
@bdpickett2 жыл бұрын
This moment still hits me. So glad to have him back to normal.
@BooBop19872 жыл бұрын
Yeah, so do I!🙂
@Meowthnoir Жыл бұрын
2:18 Spoken like a true doctor 😢
@Latenivenatrix_McmasteraeАй бұрын
I love watching Osborn fascinate over the technology, it feels so good
@DivineKnight_1152 жыл бұрын
This was so cathartic to watch seeing a good man return to his true potential.
@ionceateapinecone2 жыл бұрын
0:38 this is what made him snap, that one little remark made the goblin come out
@Stevonniewolf31132 жыл бұрын
I love how the actor could go from a menacing pyscho to a nice and sweet older guy.
@skins4thewin Жыл бұрын
Love how Stark tech is so freaking advanced in this Marvel universe that it can fix basically any problem even with the original creator of the tech dead. E.D.I.T.H indeed!
@Vermillionx2 жыл бұрын
I am really happy for Otto. He's a brilliant man and a wonderful ally. It's a shame that he wasn't cured of this sooner.
@rockerfish223 Жыл бұрын
Even worse that he got his cure, helped Spider-Man cure the others, and at the end of the day, he's still probably gonna die stopping the fusion reactor back in his universe
@sebastianfalu4238 Жыл бұрын
@@rockerfish223 you mean earth-96283(ramiverse)
@christianfrost8660 Жыл бұрын
@@rockerfish223 Not necessarily. Norman would have two years to devise a plan to drown that machine as soon as Otto arrived. And quite frankly I think Norman would feel that he owes Otto one.
@rockerfish223 Жыл бұрын
@@christianfrost8660 Since Norman survives, his timeline probably branches off into one where he’s alive, CEO of Oscorp, and never funds Otto’s research in the first place, especially knowing what he now knows. But at the point on the timeline that Otto returns to, Norman is still dead, Harry still backed the demonstration that turned him into Doc Ock, he’s still fighting Spider-Man on the waterfront, and the only way to stop the reactor is for him to drown with it. TL;DR, once he returns home, Norman Osborn could probably save Otto Octavius in his timeline, but when Otto returns, he still has the tentacles and the heroism that inspired his original sacrifice in his timeline.
@christianfrost8660 Жыл бұрын
@@rockerfish223 Unless they are all sent into the same timeline. Norman is intelligent enough to try to force nature to take its course and to only change something if he had to. If I were Norman. I would vanish myself and only resurface at the docks that night.
@anthonyvadala48372 ай бұрын
Alfred Molina is a BLESSING
@The-Deadite2 жыл бұрын
It was so crazy to see Raimi-Ock interacting with Raimi-Norman, fucking loved everyone involved on this.
@fissilewhistle2 жыл бұрын
I love how Otto talks. I can’t explain it, I just think his word choice is nice.
@BooBop19872 жыл бұрын
Yeah, so Do I!😊
@tailedgates92 жыл бұрын
I freaking love this movie, man. :') It did so much for Spiderman fans in such a short period of time. It gave Tom the jolt he needed to learn the true meaning behind being Spiderman, AND gave 2 other Spidermen and their villains a triumphant return. John Watts as well as everyone else involved, bless you.
@loug10162 жыл бұрын
"with great power...comes great responsibility" Tom Holland's Spidey showed that in a way they didn't with others. He's my favorite and in my opinion truly shows the comics Peter Parker.
@notme36032 жыл бұрын
Agree He didn’t start well but in the words of another hero “It’s what you chose to do now what matters”
@wasifrahman78622 жыл бұрын
Honestly speaking, Tom is the best to balance both Peter and Spider-Man really well and also got the best character growth of all but never got the respect because Spider-Man fanbase is unfortunately dominated by people blinded by nostalgia. IMO Tobey would have been still the best if SM3 didn't come into existence. SM3 completely ruined the character for me. Andrew's SM is only good at swinging and action sequence but got the worst storyline of all including worst characterization of Spider-Man (ofcourse not his fault). But in terms of delivering performance all 3 of them are uniqely great.
@TheDailyGlobe9222 жыл бұрын
Well said! That's the reason he's the only spiderman I like
@vinieuss2 жыл бұрын
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@matthewallen4452 жыл бұрын
@@notme3603 Who said that?
@endobro-ym9vv9 ай бұрын
William da friend is some thing i love seeing
@reichcalebcruz701110 ай бұрын
The way the nanites of the iron spider suit transforms through peter's upgraded suit reminds me the way the iron spider suit transforms through peter's stark suit back in infinity war
@jackfinley65502 жыл бұрын
“if you need a job and your willing to commute to another universe” one of my favorite lines from NWH
@alexisgrunden15562 жыл бұрын
The pay and benefits better be nucking futs for that kinda commute~🤣🤣🤣
@prototype1_3ch04 ай бұрын
I forgot how adorable Alfred Molina is in this role! AHHH! The shift in character is perfect!
@allisongiordano54952 жыл бұрын
I don't feel bad crying at Alfred Molina's brilliant performance, since I found out the man himself shed a tear or two on set. The actors were just as affected by this as the fans, and you can see it in all their performances.
@BooBop19872 жыл бұрын
Plus he did play a very good character who has a very good storyline!
@Ghostface634 Жыл бұрын
Doc Ock: It's so quiet. Me: now I want one of those for my autism
@shadowforge2 жыл бұрын
I like how hes being so gentle and careful with it while building then just hard grabs it when its done ...
@BooBop19872 жыл бұрын
Yeah, very good scene indeed!🙂
@360entertainment211 ай бұрын
I loved this scene, it still brings a tear to my eye!
@jimvincent18312 жыл бұрын
One of the payoffs for having truly excellent actors as the various villains is scenes like this
@BooBop1987 Жыл бұрын
The Only Best Villain of all time who did redeemed himself the most!
@amberrizzi12072 жыл бұрын
Otto is such a sweetheart when his tentacles aren’t giving him hell… I know Willem Dafoe was great, too, but Alfred Molina is also incredible in this movie!
@shocktun3s729 Жыл бұрын
Well, what can I say. They only wanted to be good children.
@christianfrost8660 Жыл бұрын
The only scene where William didn't steal the scene but rather Alfred did.
@ryansandigan71842 ай бұрын
I can't believe that No Homo Chip was fixed in this universe
@ayushseth47092 жыл бұрын
Many memes and many many happy memories were generated from this scenes and always thanks Michael Giachiano
@Myk952 жыл бұрын
I think the best thing about 'No Way Home' apart from seeing Tobey and Andrew back is seeing Doc Ock and Osborne interact together.
@SUNRISECANARY Жыл бұрын
Alfred Molina looks much BETTER here than he did in spiderman 2😍
@alecnorthrup3645 Жыл бұрын
Norman Likes Old Friend Otto 1:37 🥰
@AwfulWaffle84742 жыл бұрын
1:15 Michael Cole after Vince McMahon "retired."
@ajangeles10919 ай бұрын
Actually...yes
@shrews120012 жыл бұрын
even with one line, just the way they are portrayed, i really want to see some extended interaction between Otto and Norman. Two frightfully intelligent minds working together
@jwill5892 Жыл бұрын
Everyone is talking about doc ock's genuinesness but no one is talking about Norman's at the beginning. I almost feel bad for him for what happens later.
@katherinemayers67332 жыл бұрын
Norman loves every version of Peter lol
@JoeJack-nx1mn18 күн бұрын
Not a fan of these types of movies anymore. But I might need to watch this one. Him seeing Peter again and the "dear boy" damn near made me cry. Beautiful reminder of my childhood and the first 2 good films. (Topher Grace was terrible as Venom. Cry about it)