Spider-Man No Way Home: The Villains Realize They Died (Willem Dafoe HD Clip)

[@OmarPerez-cq7zf]

I really love the way Flint Marko says "they both died, fighting Spider-Man" it makes Tobey's Spider-Man sound like a punisher type of guy

[@Meteorlink]

To be fair marko did interact with the symbioted up aggressive spiderman in 3. I wouldn't put it past him to believe spiderman killed the other 2 like he tried killing him

[@Isaacthebiggestmoviefan57]

Sandman was probably out there somewhere in the 1st and 2nd movie and like he said he saw it on the news

[@GetTheCornNuts]

He heard it from the news so it was most probably stated in the news that they died fighting Spider-Man, weren't aware of how exactly it played out

[@Suthek]

@@GetTheCornNuts Which is actually a huge plot hole. If Goblin being killed by his own glider was "all over the news", how did Harry not know about it until his Butler told him in Spider-Man 3?

[@jasonbungard7484]

@@Suthek Because Harry wouldn't believe that version of what happened. What do you think the Daily Bugle would say? Harry believed the worst about Spider-Man, and never wanted to believe his own father could be evil. He didn't make peace with what really happened until he heard it from Bernard, who loved his father and had no reason to lie.

[@ducdunguyen4343]

I just love how Electro telling his story like he is so proud of it. Then realise he is going to die

[@kerriswiney4681]

😹😹

[@ManusiaKagakRusuh]

Electro: lmao you guys failed to kill spiderman, unlike me who about to kill spiderman but then... holy shit, am I failed to ?...

[@DylanAltamirano1999]

I was whopping Spider-Man’s ass 😎 and then he cause an overreaction, I was absorbing data about to become pure energy and then… and then uh… oh shit, I was gonna die 😐

[@RedRanger9305]

Dr. Conners didn't die. He was turned back to normal, after his plan to mutate New York failed. The cops took him into custody, and then, he was taken to Ravencroft.

[@TRG_R17]

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[@jackruzzo1813]

I have to say. The actors in this movie really nailed their roles after all of these years . It’s like they never even left.

[@Tigressa101]

That's one of the reasons no other Spider-Man live films have ever brought the same characters back, aside from Harry Osborn becoming the Green Goblin. Yes, Webb had Norman in the film but he never became his counterpart because although he thought about making the Green Goblin come back to the screen, he didn't want to impose on Dafoe's perfection of the role hence why it was Harry who became the Goblin instead. It's a respectful of not only giving other Spider-Man villains a chance to shine but acknowledging that sometimes remaking something doesn't mean remaking everything about it is necessary. Why not let Harry be the first Goblin instead? It's a nice twist but it doesn't tread on Dafoe's role one bit because it's a new take.

[@jackruzzo1813]

@@Tigressa101: I totally agree. Live action is not something you should really mess with. Cartoons and anime is something different.

[@jackruzzo1813]

@@Tigressa101: Plus the way they brought everyone back in this movie was absolute genus. I never thought I would ever see a Spider Man movie like this in my lifetime.

[@wachinimagaming4898]

@@Tigressa101 didn’t Kevin Feige also say that’s a reason they never attempted the Goblin or Doc Ock in Tom Holland’s first two movies? I think they wanted to use villains we hadn’t seen before regardless, but another reason was because he felt he couldn’t top Dafoe’s and Molina’s takes on the characters.

[@daegnaxqelil2733]

that movie was mainly boring , too casual, Holland's Spiderman/Parker wasn't as interesting as Tobey Maguire but when Dafoe's Buffoon is on the scene , the movie suddenly become badass and entertaining

[@Hei_Darkfire]

I like how the one who was most curious if he lived or died and willing to accept it, was the one who didn't die in his universe.

[@mattj2081]

Sandman didn't die either.

[@darkerthanblack8897]

I thought the Lizard died?

[@erick3062]

@@darkerthanblack8897 he was sent to prison

[@SEliteGuitarist99]

@@erick3062 it's actually possible this Connors is from the future or present. Clearly Sandman is from the present so it's completely possible they explain Lizards cosmetic change is Connors being turned back into the Lizard and the mutation taking a different effect seeing as Harry in that universe was looking to build the Sinister 6 anyway

[@MRob6971]

@@SEliteGuitarist99 nah, he might have been transfered from before his evil plan on NY and final fight with spidey ever took place.

[@aravbhatt2875]

It's still surreal to me how all 3 villains from the Sam Raimi- Tobey Maguire trilogy interacted with each other in this movie.

[@davidsavage5630]

That's not nearly the most surreal thing. Those villains interacting with the ones from the Andrew Garfield movies not to mention Doctor Strange is crazy. This could've easily been like a Saturday Night Live sketch but thankfully they pulled it off..

[@vallykoool]

otto and goblin intteract with eachother and knew eachother for sure in the trilogy even if we didnt see it

[@ccelite3782]

I felt like such a little kid whenever one of the villains or Spider-Men meet people from the other universes. It's just something about them meeting that gets me excited

[@coolkidsklibgaminggang_8275]

Go reds

[@KRS2000]

This is the first time Alfred and Willem interacted in character. The second disc for Spiderman 2 showed them sharing a laugh together after Willem wore the arms and performed Alfreds lines for the scene when the fusion reactor went out of control. This movie finally got them together, which was something I always wanted to see.

[@ergob3907]

Growing up, I always thought it was a shame we didn't see Molina Doc Ock and Dafoe's Green Goblin interact onscreen since they're Spider-man's two archenemies in the comics and they were so perfectly cast. Great to see them together finally in NWH.

[@luisvelez1952]

Imagine if the first Spider Man movie introduced Dock Ock and Green Goblin in the same year of 2002.

[@aaronjohnson1286]

Venom archenemies

[@MarkyMark1221]

@@aaronjohnson1286 just say you’ve never picked up a physical comic book

[@nathancruz9172]

0:45 me too.

[@m0urn1ng5tar5]

And I love the scene where Doc Ock recognized Norman, and how it almost perfectly mirrored the scene in Spiderman PS4 where Norman sees what became of Otto and seems horrified at it.

[@IncredibleFulk1]

What I love about this scene is how it paints Spider-Man the character as whole compared to the MCU. Tom Holland (Peter 1) is still a young superhero trying to prove himself in a world with the Avengers and has only been active for about 5-6 years. But “Spider-Man” as a whole here is painted as this legendary hero among the multiverse who faced and defeated many foes. Imagine being in Tom’s shoes and hearing “they died fighting Spider-Man.” It’s got to be both surreal and haunting for a young hero like him.

[@diehardrvdfan22]

All of which comes in the midst of him being framed for Mysterio's death.

[@jackhammer078jack4]

Man let the lizard speak 🗣 😂

[@RicardoRivera-xt5ni]

Sandman painted Spider-Man in bad lighting. As if he killed all of his villains

[@IncredibleFulk1]

@@RicardoRivera-xt5ni I guess a better word would be figure instead of hero.

[@ToonGohan]

@@RicardoRivera-xt5ni yeah sandman wasn’t there so he’s going off by what he heard. I guess Flint Marco wasn’t in jail or was able to get news about Spider-Man in jail.

[@Ariverse_]

Never thought to see all the Spider-Man villains interacting with each other... NWH is just amazing

[@nathancruz9172]

0:40 my favorite movie.

[@Will.Flavell]

It’s kind of like Karate Kid Daniel Larussos old enemies interacting with each other in Cobra Kai season 5

[@quentinross2104]

@@Will.Flavell fax

[@pnwyoshi]

@@Will.Flavell Yupp

[@trh3xa174]

Yeah. It's nice to see, the movie itself however tho was pretty mediocre that was carried by actors from the past.

[@bryancroidragon457]

Norman's reaction of "Fascinating" in regards to MJ being Michelle Jones rather than Mary Jane has always been to me when the realization hits for him that the reason that Oscorp doesn't exist in that universe is probably due to his and Harry's counterparts having different names altogether.

[@cobaltprime9467]

Or never even existed like Mary Jane.

[@bryancroidragon457]

@@cobaltprime9467 She does exist. Michelle is Mary Jane. Not having the same name doesn't mean Mary Jane doesn't exist in the MCU.

[@kingovharts]

I thought he was "fascinated" at all the things looking around in that room.

[@Pointed_expression]

@@bryancroidragon457 Michelle is not Mary Jane. The character is a travesty.

[@Pointed_expression]

I strongly think that mcu norman is working either for aim or hammer industries. This is why we don't have an oscorp in mcu. The underlying theme is different yet similar sounding names but same function

[@sham8303]

I love how at 0:47 when Norman asks Otto what he means by his comment about being the walking corpse you can clearly see that Norman is genuinely shocked, but after Otto elaborates you see Norman smiling in a cocky manner and telling him he's insane. That's not Norman who responds but the Green Goblin, who is refusing even the notion that he somehow died or was capable of dying after gaining so much power. I love how subtle the shift is and shows how great of an actor Dafoe is.

[@pirajacinto4]

Geez I never even noticed! That's SO, FREAKIN, GOOD. Like he just sounds like he's surprised but realizing it was the Goblin responding, with that tone, it's just...fan, tastic.

[@TobyDBZSkellington1]

Look at his teeth. When he is Green Goblin he have gabs and when he is Normam he haven't

[@russellstevens9927]

Wow. You can tell by his vocal inflection that it's Green Goblin, because of the raspiness and the absence of meekness. 😂

[@TheBlackGamingAntagonist-dy9ix]

I just noticed that too!@@russellstevens9927

[@davidchism6081]

​@@TobyDBZSkellington1 gabs or gaps?

[@danielanderson8322]

Throughout their interactions Octavius & Osborn, never for a second feel like their meeting for the first time (which they technically are); it literally feels like two men who've had a casual working relationship up to this point. While the same can probably be said for Max & Connors, with these two it's more layered & more nuanced

[@Elthenar]

It's only the first time meeting on screen. It's all but certain they knew each other very well. In his movie, he even mentions how Oscorp helped with his project. Given how small the elite scientific community is and the fact that Osborn and Octavius were based in New York, it's a mathematical certain they had know each other for years, or decades.

[@MMTrigger]

I remember that Harry had access to the tritium that Otto used for fuel, but I don't think Otto knew Norman in the original films. I think that was lifted from Insomniac's Spider-Man.

[@Elthenar]

@@MMTrigger Oh no, they never say that Ock knew Norman. I just inferred it and gave my reasons.

[@Zoras88]

@@MMTrigger Given how the science community is in the films, it's most likely that they met a couple of times at a few conferences.

[@Synthonym]

​@@MMTrigger It'd probably be more accurate not to say "knew each other" but instead "knew of each other" given the nature of academia

[@Verm0uth07]

Sandman was the first villain that I actually felt bad for. Usually when other villain loses I'd be like "yeah!" but when I watched Spiderman 3 for the first time years ago, watching that scene where it was revealed that Sandman didn't mean to kill Peter's uncle and that he did crime to save his daughter before turning into a cloud of sand and disappearing brought tears to my eyes.

[@disneyknightspadilla1406]

Have you wonder that sandman was going to mention about venom since he last witness him getting blown up.

[@specialperson170]

Why would you feel bad for him stealing for money is one thing but killing someone is a choice he made he's a villain plane and simple

[@Verm0uth07]

@@specialperson170 except he didn't mean to shoot him, he accidentally shot his gun when his partner called out to him. It was not a choice and his death haunts him.

[@ReysonFox]

I didnt want this...but I had no choice

[@kevinforslund52]

@@specialperson170 killing uncle Ben wasn't a choice it was an accident since he DIDNT want to kill him. Have you even seen the fucking movie? hes not a villain, hes a broken man pushed into a corner by the society trying to do what ever it takes to save his daughter from DYING from CANCER. He didn't steal for the money, he stole money to be able to pay for his daughters cancer treatments.

[@Punk_On_Demand]

I love how Lizard gets scared.. and is curious if he died.

[@WarGrowlmon18]

He didn't ironically and neither did Sandman.

[@mrv7916]

Technically the Lizard personality did died when Spider-Man cure him the first time. But I think he came over to the MCU moments before that happened.

[@kirongauff4934]

@@mrv7916 Or probably after his fight with Spider-Man at the high school. It's no coincidence that Dr. Strange found him in the sewers.

[@crashpal]

"Pooh peepa pahka yoo ahl aloon"

[@cmurphy0707]

The monster died, the man did not.

[@Bubba1995]

The Green Goblin's death being all over the news means that Harry was just in denial though the second and third films.

[@Firelance2361]

Or that his butler told the media the truth after Harry’s death in Spider-Man 3.

[@GyrosLeftSteelBall]

Harry missed that broadcast

[@teleportedbreadfor3days]

That means he was going through the stages of grief like his father was after the board gave him the axe. And they both end with the sixth stage of grief: Revenge

[@loregasmic]

Nah Harry watches the Daily Bugle aka Jameson who blamed Spider-Man for Norman's death saying that the glider was fake news while everyone else reported the truth

[@airjelo5849]

TBH this movie has the luxury of multiple universes and their backdoors: meaning the Norman we see here might not even be the exact same Norman we saw in Spider-Man 2002. Maybe his death was treated differently in whatever universe he's from. But obviously, it was done so Sandman could give exposition.

[@beaujones8790]

Sandman and Lizard never died. They are the only ones in this movie who didn't die fighting Spider-Man in their universes.

[@SeriousDragonify]

Actually the Lizard died but Doctor didn't because he went back to himself. What he wanted was growing the hand (like lizards with the tail that grows again after cutting it off) and unfortunately turned him into a monster.

[@CaptainIchimaruGin]

@@SeriousDragonify True to that. The Lizard died and Doctor Connor return.

[@TonyTylerDraws]

Sandman might have died later on

[@CaptainIchimaruGin]

@@TonyTylerDraws His fate is actually unknown.

[@puffpuffpassmako]

@@CaptainIchimaruGin sandman dies as well. He apologizes to Peter and promises to give up crime before fading away in a cloud of sand to see his daughter again. Sandman died, and Flint Marko lived

[@thejonbrownshow8470]

Love Otto and max referring to their spider men as "spider man" instead of "Peter", makes it feel like they don't accept Holland as their spider man, just a neat touch

[@sebastiancooper7792]

I don’t think either of them knew who he was at that point in their stories- for all they knew, it could have been someone else under the mask.

[@thejonbrownshow8470]

@@sebastiancooper7792 well for Otto, the "had him by the throat" line confirms he knew , max is a... intriguing case lol

[@Tim7318-3]

@@thejonbrownshow8470 there was someone out there who pointed out a moment in TAS2 where Gwen yelled out Peter by name and Electro overheard it, granted there’s still a chance that I could be remembering it incorrectly but that’s how it happened based off my memory. So iirc technically Max did know a Peter who is Spiderman, it’s just never brought up nor explored any further than that and it didn’t have any effect on the plot within its own narrative.

[@thejonbrownshow8470]

@@Tim7318-3 I think Matt Pat did at one point now that you mention it, and max apparently have better hearing then me when waking up from being knocked out 😅

[@nadimabbas4093]

​@@Tim7318-3 Gwen didn't yell out Peter's name. She said it quietly when he told her to turn up the power in the control room and Electro woke up right after she said it with no indication if he heard it or even figured out the identity of his Spider-Man before his death. Him waking up shocked could have just been him reacting to being hit by the police car. That's why it doesn't make sense why the spell brought him to MCU

[@zexian9750]

Geesh the interaction between Osborn and Doc Oct. They both knew each other from their works as scientists. Literal chills seeing that they were never supposed to meet under their circumstances.

[@Christopher-qq4dl]

😂

[@Hellol-po7eq]

Doctor october?

[@Astronaughty]

This entire movie is just a massive fan service, and I love it.

[@LordNinja109]

Jurassic World Dominion could have learned a few lessons here.

[@ilikeheavymuzic135]

Fan service done the right way

[@trekwars67]

Not really, they didn't get every main character from the first three Spider-Man movies because they felt they wouldn't have advanced Tom Holland's story.

[@elykspuz6596]

It helps when the fans are the actors and not just people reprising their roles as a cash grab.

[@trekwars67]

@@elykspuz6596 if this is about Kirsten Dunst, she knows her story is incomplete and that's why she said "there's still time"

[@Carma1023]

“Do you think there are other Ned Leedses?” There are. You don’t want to meet them.

[@logannottheonefrommarvel9917]

And their names are actually Gahnke

[@iagoluiz8467]

@@logannottheonefrommarvel9917 Actually, there are bad Neds. And good Gahnkes.

[@LaMortDeLaMusique]

The Neds themselves aren't necessarily bad, they were brainwashed by the real Hobgoblin and left to die when they were no longer deemed necessary.

[@eyeseer1]

Hobgoblin enters the chat and then walks out.

[@crashpal]

Yeah Ganke is pretty much the ultimatw comics Ned and he also there in the Playstation insomniac Spiderman universe

[@vodril.official]

1:45 watching this again makes me love this movie so much because I never notice the smallest details. Electro literally has a new body and his teeth are all perfect yet he still talks like he still has his buck teeth before he became Electro. Well done to Jaimie Foxx and the rest of the villain cast, as if they haven't changed from their roles all these years.

[@zobbycar2728]

What? Electro was the biggest change from his first role.

[@patchwork5532]

My favorite detail is the very subtle shift Willem Dafoe does between the vocals for Norman and the Goblin. Most of the scene is Normans voce, but "Octavius?" and "You're insane" are delivered with the Goblin's rasp. You even hear a little of it creep into the "Fascinating..." line.

[@Wat3rCoCk]

bro Electro is a whole different character i really dislike him in this movie

[@captain2s404]

@@Wat3rCoCkHe was better than in the amazing Spiderman 2 he was so cringe

[@Wat3rCoCk]

@@captain2s404 but it's not the same character it's just weird it's like Jamie Foxx pretending to be Electro

[@shrews12001]

Electro's realization seems funny the way it's delivered but think about it. Otto realized it when it occured to him he blinked out of his universe but Electro actually says "I was about to die." Not "I died" but "I was about to die." Otto and Norman were so involved in the fight they didn't see their death coming, but Electro, given a moment to look back, realized what he was doing was about to kill him. He knew

[@scantopup2226]

I love electro's story how he realizes that he was about to die

[@KakashiJasmy]

Oh shit, I was about to die 😂

[@lukayaroslav9914]

Ambatublow

[@jordankrzywicki9412]

1:48 That might seal up the plot hole. Electro was the only one not to know Spidey was Peter Parker. But if he absorbed data, then perhaps he got enough off the grid to pull facts together. Saw Cyborg do that sort of thing with Batman and Wonder Woman. Then again, Eddie Brock was brought to this world too, and there's nothing that proves he knew.

[@SmashSSL]

Venom told Eddie that he can (conveniently) access his other universe counterparts' knowledge

[@CG-sf1uw]

​@@SmashSSL Like a symbiotic hive mind?

[@davidchism6081]

​@@CG-sf1uwthat spans across universes.

[@CG-sf1uw]

@@davidchism6081 Cool

[@nadimabbas4093]

It's amazing to see the Spider-Man villains discussing their deaths from their respective movies. It looked better with the flashbacks, but it's still cool seeing them as friends👍

[@philippeflores6672]

You could find the flashbacks in KZbin, its better than the final cut.

[@Tesseract.2012]

The closest you get to the BTAS episode Almost Got ‘Em in which the villains share their experiences with fighting the hero. Imagine if they used a similar approach with Sinister Six.

[@48162342]

This is why this movie will always be one of the greatest. The connection between older generation fans and newer fans could not have had a better plot.

[@magallanesagustin4952]

It was so surreal to see Dafoe's Goblin interacting with Molina's Doc Ock. What an experience!

[@eyeseer1]

20 year separation, but it works.

[@SuperFrandaman]

As great as it was for Otto and Peter to interact with each other years later, would have liked for him and Norman to have done the same after the final battle

[@mattj2081]

There was actually a deleted part of the final battle where Tobey and Green Goblin faced off.

[@nikunjdixit1175]

Norman and Peter didn't have the same warm relationship that Peter and Otto had.

[@SuperFrandaman]

@@nikunjdixit1175 True, but as Norman is the father of Peter's best friend, as well as both being men of science, and of course, being Peter's first-ever adversary, it would have been nice for them to reconnect.

[@ChanningsTaint]

An interaction I love the most that I see overlooked is the small one between MJ and Norman. Norman comparing the common consistencies with the slight small differences between them is is cool to me. Noticing all Peter Parkers have an MJ, though the name is completely different. Small but cool detail

[@trekwars67]

It is unfairly overlooked by whoever still won't grasp that Feige had no interest in rehashing Mary Jane since he wanted a very different character and I'm so happy that this was the scene that finally confirmed Michelle Jones as her own character despite some not getting that.

[@Baldrjac]

The acting in this movie showcases the best of each character. The writers of this movie did a phenomenal job with character interaction and character development

[@crashpal]

It's unfortunate it got down by Snyder Cut which was a rehash of a movie already done in 2018

[@huntercool2232]

Max: “I was whooping Spider-Man’s ass! I was about to turn into pure energy and then- oh sh*t I was about to die…” *I love that line.* 💀💀

[@GhostGuy99]

Electro was unapologetically black in this timeline and I love it.

[@computerman789]

Sounds like a bad acid trip.

[@The813874]

"He'll tell ya."😂

[@xC4N4D14NB4C0Nx]

This movie was a masterpiece in tying off loose thread. Really excellent, and I'm glad my boy Toby got his redemption he was always the true spiderman imo.

[@quentinross2104]

Wouldn’t call this movie a masterpiece but it was great and tobey never needed to redeem himself he was always looked as the best Spider-Man

[@xC4N4D14NB4C0Nx]

@@quentinross2104 'Masterpiece in tying off loose thread'

[@larrytherustyboii7442]

i wouldn't call it loose ends, even more so when it brings up more questions on how the villains know certain things and how their lives will affect their worlds when they go back. In my opinion, this movie was good in fixing the character, spider man (MCU), as a whole.

[@alphanerd7221]

You literally do not know the first thing about Spider-Man.

[@alphanerd7221]

@@quentinross2104 Not by Spider-Man fans he wasn't.

[@garganrose]

0:22 for those of you, who don’t know, Ned leads is one of the people in the comic books, who adopted the identity of the hob goblin.

[@Mynameisjames1987]

1:06 the way the music hit in the theater and the vibe was very important to me seeing all of the spider man movies i grew up with Andrew and tom

[@JakeLlavore]

*0:35* *Norman Osborn* finally meets *Dr. Otto Octavius/Doc Ock.*

[@nathancruz9172]

Very first time ever in history.

[@ermonski]

Pretty sure they knew each other back in the day as scientists, but on-screen yeah this is the first time we've seen them interact together.

[@darkbonnie87fan]

now...if they met eddie brock (topher grace) octavious would of been scared and norman if it was green goblin would of said "ANOTHER SPIDER-MAN WILL NOW FALL VICTIM TO ME!!! *Laughs in dafoe*"

[@FiendMatadorSlayerOfNoobs]

I love The Lizard's voice. It's got this depth to it that the others don't have, which is no insult to them because they're also very good.

[@alexblake5369]

Honestly I want a movie starring just these villains. They are ALL so good together!

[@Tesseract.2012]

They already have the right casting they just need to come up with a good story and twist.

[@calebsoria1901]

1:22 he said green goblin meaning he didn’t know Osborn true identity But dock ock he did

[@davekisman2763]

Imagine if you died in your own universe, and suddenly got resurrected in a different universe, but someone wants to send you back for the sake of their or every universe.

[@cooper3814]

They were brought in before they died, Ock said he had Spider-man by the throat and then he was in his universe

[@gorrow1990]

They'll probably never explain it. But it sounds like the world learned Norman Osborn was the Green Goblin after the events of Spider-Man 3. That's the only way Sandman could have known the exact way Norman died in that timeline.

[@thatperformer3879]

Honestly I kinda like this retcon, it implies that Harry was simply in denial of the truth about his father for many years despite Peter trying to convince him, and finally when the butler gave him the speech about loving his friends his hatred subsided. It would explain why the butler never said anything.

[@nathancruz9172]

0:38-0:43 I’m glad they finally interacted the first time ever.

[@lalotime]

I love how they did their research on how Doc Ock and Osborne knew each other for years.

[@urktheturtle2988]

I wish we got more interaction between these characters, they had instant striking chemistry and its actually kind of amazing.

[@TheSonicHybrid13]

I always wanted to see Tobey’s villains interact 😁

[@MetalD1111]

When I first saw green goblin walking up to doc ock I was like no freaking way! 😱

[@davidbreault3283]

Don't worry Ned, there can only be one CEO of Sex

[@RicklessSanchez]

To me Idk 2010's people but that 2000's actually blown my mind how they bring back together.

[@nickmorris5161]

1:58 no “dinosaur”, you survive. In fact, you and Marcos are the only ones who survive out of all of you in the room

[@stevecristian6932]

We don't know from what moment in time the Lizard was taken, i think at some point he escape the prison and died fighting spiderman to, same for sandman

[@Cant_think_of_a_handle_either]

​@@stevecristian6932 If I had to guess, it was on the building, since that's right before the 'Lizard' dies and also when Doctor Conners comes back.

[@lexramstudios1386]

@@Cant_think_of_a_handle_either also if you look at his right hand you can see he has four fingers instead five because Captain Stacy shoot his hand

[@simpingshrimp4791]

You calling "Lizard" as Dinosaur reminds me of that Marvel Sauron villain.😂

​@@simpingshrimp4791"But I don't want to cure cancer. I want to turn people into dinosaurs!"

[@PomadaGaming]

1:13 indeed

[@PomadaGaming]

1:54 jez

[@astropunch101]

Lizard: "Did I die?" Electro: "Um no, you're still alive." Lizard: " Thank god. Lol sucks to be you guys."

[@WarhawkBeyond2040]

To see all of the villains from the Sam Rami and Marc Webb Spider-Man movies all in one scene is such a surreal experience, i would never imagine that we would ever see something as epic as this. Truly a special moment for fans of the franchise

[@btr9969]

As a walking corpse, it hits so close to home.

[@MrBasicHelixLoop]

May I bury you?

[@ClarinetArtist1999]

If you think about it both Doc ock and Goblin are Walking Corpses

[@crashpal]

@Slasher the Therizinosaurus lizard/Conners didn't die he was arrested and Bully Maguire let Marko/sandman go

[@ClarinetArtist1999]

@@crashpal I know that

[@TimKuat]

I was never a huge fan of Spider-Man. Would watch the films but that was it. No Way Home changed that. This seriously is one of the best movies I have ever seen. Such a good story, such an amazing cast, amazing nostalgia, amazing action, fantastic world building, I could go on forever. Every time I see a clip from here I'm reminded at just how fun it was to see this in theaters. It's one of the only films I went back to see again in IMAX (my city doesn't have an IMAX theater and had the opportunity to go to one). I honestly put this film on level with The Dark Knight, Infinity War, and Endgame. These are what superhero movies aspire to be.

[@De7Sanchez]

Did you make a soy face while typing this out?

[@thatperformer3879]

@@De7Sanchez Come on man, why you gotta roast him? He’s passionate about something he enjoys, let him cook.

[@mistermonologue2442]

It makes sense why he was hesitant meeting his alter egos. All he knows of them is apparently they've just been running around merking their villains .

[@lukeccho]

"Mary Jane?" - he had to say it, and that is why nothing can ever beat Willem Dafoe as Green Goblin.

[@MojoTheClown]

The villains spending time with one another was my favorite part of this movie.

[@DummyYEEEAAHHHHH]

I always thought it was funny that Ned goes "I wonder if there are any more Ned Leeds' out there" then approaches his computer like he's about to Google himself as if he's in another universe. 🤣🤣

[@thomasbircher6409]

Bro, tom hollands voice to sandman's voice dialogue of "Hes Dead, they both died fighting spiderman" is so good, its just so good with brooding music as well

[@BlakPanthaa]

Damn, Tom Holland's Spider is gonna have to meet his version of "Sandman", "Doc Oc", "Electro", "Green Goblin" and "Lizard".

[@wayneshobbygallery]

MCU Doc Ock & MCU Green Goblin, yes, but in one branched MCU timeline aka Freshman Year/Sophomore Year

[@fortnight5677]

Considering his universe is wonky, maybe his story with them is just this. Regardless, he pretty much knows all the shit about them so he knows what the deal is with them.

[@silenthero2795]

It's very neat that Osborn and Otto seem to be very familiar with one another. Otto's remark on Tom's Nanosuit makes me think Otto have also read Osborn's research on nanotechnology. He was surprised but not dumbstruck that such tech exists because he's also familiar with it.

[@vulturedroid7674]

I’d like to imagine how this scene would play out if it had Topher Grace’s Venom instead of Thomas’s Sandman. He ACTUALLY died fighting Spider-Man. Imagine he was pulled just as the goblin grenade went off, last thing he and the symbiote saw was a flash of light

[@nathancruz9172]

Me too.

[@camnunes8847]

While this is a very well thought out idea (fr i love it) Topher's Eddie would have been transported to the MCU/616 as soon as he got the symbiote. The same scene when he saw Tobey Peter was Spiderman

[@nadimabbas4093]

@@camnunes8847 It's not necessary to be teleported to MCU from the second he finds out Spider-Man's identity. The spell could have wisked him from any moment between getting the symbiote and his death. Electro was taken to MCU within the last second of his life so Topher's Eddie could have too

[@camnunes8847]

@@nadimabbas4093 Electro's could be explained since in the grid and internet he was probably able to peice everything together.

[@vulturedroid7674]

@@camnunes8847 from what I’ve seen it seems they were all pulled from when they were last left off or somewhat close to before their death. That’s my theory anyways for the Lizard cause he was never fully cured, the end credits scene in TASM1 hinted at his return with him still having scales on his neck. And with Green Goblin, Norman didn’t find out Peter was Spider-Man until a thanksgiving dinner, when he didn’t have his gear.

[@larriors9124]

Best Spider-Man movie hands down. All 3 Spider-Men fighting each other's and their own respective villains

[@Aashishkebab]

Definitely not the best spiderman movie, just the most fan pleasing.

[@spider-man3576]

@@Aashishkebab No. It's the best spider-man movie because it understands the character the most, especially with Peter sacrificing everything just to save villains from different universes.

[@Aashishkebab]

@@spider-man3576 lol no it doesn't. It's an extremely stupid and convoluted plot line that they invented just to bring in the other characters. Was it a moneymaker? Absolutely. Was it good from a literature standpoint? Definitely not.

[@spider-man3576]

@@Aashishkebab People like you throw in buzzwords like "convoluted" to try to sound like you know what you're talking about, but then fail to actually logically explain why.

[@mando7323]

Lol no it’s not if anything it was way overhyped

[@reversalmushroom]

1 thing about I love about this movie is seeing characters from the same universe we never saw interact interact.

[@davidchism6081]

0:54. Says the insane guy.

[@shimmeran]

Green goblin is insane not norman

[@davidchism6081]

@@shimmeran Norman was insane for experimenting on himself despite the risk because he didn't want to lose military funding.

[@jaredruff9823]

Facts

[@shadowspidey7327]

Love having all villain's talk to each other talking about how they fought their Spider-Man

[@suzannepottsshorts]

Almost got him...

[@shadowspidey7327]

@@suzannepottsshorts Almost

[@Dirty_Dan205]

I like how Doc Ock only remembers up until before he returns to his normal self in Spider man 2.

[@jaredruff9823]

Me too.

[@bracebrooks967]

Sandman referencing the news reports know about the deaths of Green Goblin and Dock Ock is confusing to me seeing how only Tobey's Spiderman saw them happen, and they took place in isolated spots away from any other possible witnesses.

[@halogalaxy5612]

Must’ve saw or recovered their corpse.

[@zeratai2465]

With Otto, it's okay - he drowned with his device. The issue is Norman - he was directly transported to his home after dying, and Harry didn't know about his Green Goblin persona/gear until some time later. Even if Norman's name was never revealed, I doubt how Green Goblin died was ever made public knowledge.

[@mrcritical6751]

@@zeratai2465 probably got leaked after Harry’s death, I can see somebody stumbling upon the Goblin lair after Harry died and the house was up for grabs

[@zeratai2465]

@@mrcritical6751 That's true. I guess the butler snitched at that point, so that's how the actual cause of death was revealed. Probably did it to help Spidey's rep too.

[@damagister]

Dailu Bugle knows. It doesn't need to divulge their secret identity. Well, for Green Goblin anyways. Since they know Doc Ock is Octavius.

[@williamafton1812]

Every time I watch this and Dr. Conners asks Max if he dies, I’m just like: “Nah, you’re good man” 😂

[@iagoluiz8467]

I would say: "There's a yes and no for your question. Yes, Lizard dies. And no, Curt Connor lives."

[@cooper3814]

Connors: Max, Do you know? Do I die? Andrew Garfield fans; We all wish

[@kirongauff4934]

@@iagoluiz8467 But he wounds up in jail afterwards.

[@TheBillliantOne]

That weirdly feels like something he would say. 😛

[@ryanstauffer119]

Max: No, Spider-Man cured you and the rest of the city. But you were arrested after everything you did, including killing the police captain.

[@andanandan6061]

That Electro guy has confident at Gigavolt level until "and then...... I was about to die" 😂

[@Ch00choh]

For a hero that doesn't kill, a lot of his heroes do be dying

[@Ironmike3621]

I just realized when I saw this in theaters, the only villains that came back died, and the only 2 that survived the (actual actors) are not there

[@brannycedeno6823]

This scene is pretty dark. And I also love how Flint Marko keeps his cool all the time, making the moment extremely effective when he tells them the cold truth.

[@Renegadetev1]

I wish electro and lizard talked about how Willem is nothing like the Norman they knew

[@jaredruff9823]

Lol. That would be funny.

[@salvatorefiumefreddo6000]

From this video, I realized that they are not only from different universes, but also from different timelines.

[@FaresHabib-p4p]

1:01 "They both died fighting spider man"

[@barakaobama4017]

Imagine being Peter in this moment, learning that another version of you killed half of the people in that room. Up to that point Peter only killed Mysterio and even that is up to debate. Must have been surreal

[@davidchism6081]

Quentin Beck got himself killed by because he had all the drones in that overhead tunnel going after Peter. Beck was in the strike zone, and one of the damaged drones did a misfire, striking Beck. There was a reason he got fired from Stark Industries, mental instability.

[@kunlesanders]

Flint Marko (Sandman) and Curt Connors (Lizard) did not died in their own movies. Instead... 1.) In Spider-Man 3 (2007 movie) Sandman flew away after Eddie Brock's (Venom) death, and he told Tobey Maguire's Spider-Man truth about Uncle Ben Parker's death 2.) The Lizard got arrested after Spider-Man launched the antidote to turn everyone back to normal, and also George Stacy's death during the fight.

[@AustinGamingXD]

I’m pretty sure sandman is the only one who is still alive. I know people are going to say Connors survived as well but let’s be real, he probably got sent to death row for trying to turn the city into lizard people.

[@stevensampson5823]

I don't care who is in this movie or who isn't, I adore this movie.

[@jaredruff9823]

So do I. In fact, it is by far the best Spider-Man movie that's ever been made.

[@victorbarron-zuniga4564]

You ever have those moments in life where you ask someone a question but they don't answer, might not even heard you, and you're basically left in the dark? That how I felt when Connors asked if he dies.

[@d4rksonic474]

Pretty sure Peter 3 gave him closure later on. I mean, unlike the others, reversing him had already been done XD

[@MARIO14CB]

Some of those villains really brings back some crazy memories I'm we were different back then before MCU came

[@huntercool2232]

I love how when all the villains are coming to the conclusion that almost all of them died Lizard who is one of the few villains who didn’t die asks “wait do I also die?” 💀💀

[@stevecristian6932]

We don't know from what moment in time the Lizard was taken, i think at some point he escape the prison and died fighting spiderman to, same for sandman

[@FantasticFawnleap]

@@stevecristian6932stop saying that!

[@pratiek8s]

Really wished that Mysterio had appeared (faking his death at the end of FFH and thus maintaining a continuity) and forming the Sinister Six and finally a Doctor Strange vs Mysterio.... Man, it could have topped Endgame.

[@angelrosales898]

It's not a coincidence that Norman Osbourne and Otto Octavius know each other they worked together and probably went to college together.

[@JamesBrady-qc6zy]

1:42 I was whooping spider man ass 😂😂😂

[@kingofmonsters14]

Lizard: the only villain among them who didn't die in their final battle.

[@lexramstudios1386]

Same with Sandman

[@giftheck]

I know some people feel that the whole 'Ock knows about Goblin' is odd, but I see it like this: arguably, Octavius is one of the smartest people in his world. He was familiar enough with Osborn's work in the past, so he would know of the glider, suit and performance enhancer projects. He would have been able to put two and two together, even if nobody else could. As for why Harry couldn't figure it out, he was too blinded by rage at what he thought was Spider-Man killing his father that even the truth right in front of him failed to sway him until he heard it from somebody unattached to that rage (his butler). Re. Sandman knowing: he's right that Octavius' death would have been widely reported, but for the details about Osborn, it's possible that they were released following Harry's death. He didn't even know Peter's name in Spider-Man 3, just his face following the final fight, yet he knows it here, so he's clearly from a point in time after the events of that film.

[@jackruzzo1813]

When I first saw this movie(film). I actually couldn’t believe what I was seeing. I never thought I would ever see a Spider man movie like this before in my lifetime. The best Spider Man movie of all time.

[@ultramaximusreviews]

Best MCU movie since Civil War

[@ninjaman7123]

There was something really eerie about them finding out they died. This scene kinda gave me the creeps.

[@CaptainIchimaruGin]

The villains that died: Doc Ock Green Goblin Electro Villain that survived: Sandman Villain that's technically would be consider dead: Lizard(He was cured at the end of the movie so would people count that as Lizard dying or surviving?)

[@raemonn15]

Unlike the first 3, who were pulled into Earth-199999 right before their deaths, and Sandman, who is from after Spider-Man 3, the Lizard was from the time after he figured out Peter’s identity, and before the final battle at Oscorp Tower.

[@CaptainIchimaruGin]

@@raemonn15 Wait if that's the case then wouldn't that mean the other three well still die. Oh boy it's going to be one bloody mess when Electro get sent back as he has a physical body now so when he get's overloaded it won't be an electrical explosion, but a human body exploding.

[@CloudHiro]

Sandman probably not actually. He was perpetually sand and never human till cured...and when he died in the comics he was barely able to hold his human form anymore and was just perpetually sand till he eventually broke apart.

[@mpxz999]

The best premise for a super hero movie plot ever. Relevant and interesting, fresh returns of old foes - repraised by the actors. Man. It was treasure.

[@tylertilwick6852]

“Max, do you know, do I die?” IDK why I love that line for some reason😂😂

[@CloudHiro]

Sandman probably died too, the same way he did in the comics. just no longer able to maintain human shape and eventually just fell apart. the fact that he's just perpetually sand in this movie till cured is probably a good indicator of this.

[@TheChefShipwreckinAlaska]

Fun fact: In the Spider-Man 2 novelization, Doc Oc’d death was a lot more brutal. Originally he was written to have died after being “boiled to death” after going into the water with his machine

[@DanielAppleton-lr9eq]

I WILL NOT DIE A MONSTER ! Then heroically boils to death.

[@Diego5151999]

The novelizations were always far more brutal than the movies. For Example: The hospital scene from the 2nd movie was extremely gory and bloody in the novelization. They actually described how the arms mutilated the doctors and nurses rather than just throw them around the room. Another example would be Venom. His death in the novelization was almost included in the movie but was scrapped. He was impaled and the symbiote revealed to Spider-Man that it already absorbed Brock and left him with nothing but his skeletal figure.

[@thatperformer3879]

The best thing Endgame did was establish that changing the past doesn’t change the future, only creates a new timeline. So for the villains who were cured and go home to the past, they begin a new timeline, but when Tobey and Andrew go home, since they came from the present their timelines remain unaffected. A smart writing choice to avoid messing with the events of their movies.

[@jaredruff9823]

Maybe you're right. But all the villains and their Peter's were from different universes and I believe their universes were written their own way and before Endgame came out. So if they decide to make Spider-Man 4 and Amazing Spider-Man 3, I would like to see if their timelines had changed because of this.

[@cartwrightworm1317]

It makes sense that Otto and Norman would be aware of each other. I was just surprised that they were respectful of each other. I would have expected a battle of egos.

[@VegetaLF7]

I mean Otto was getting Oscorp funding in SM2 and it was a mere 2 years since Norman died and the Green Goblin attacks. Both are big brain types so it makes sense there'd be some mutual understanding between the two. Kind of the villain version of the first time Tony Stark and Bruce Banner met in the first Avengers film, they immediately bonded over their joint love of science.

[@JameyMcQueen]

"Sadly, I died.. but I lived"

[@ClarinetArtist1999]

I feel like That's from Ice Age 3 with the Weasel

[@dailydoseofsunshine2319]

Actually doc ock didn't drown he was boiled alive by the fusion reactor. Pretty gruesome

[@paintkim9211]

Green Goblin : Killed by His Glider Doc Ock : Drown Into The River Venom : Exploded Electro : Exploded Mysterio : Killed by His Drones

[@ziji6261]

I'm sorry but Connors in his lizard form but with his normal voice is fucking hilarious

[@crashpal]

"Pooh peepa pahka yoo all aloon"

[@KasaiWolf07]

To go to a different universe to be told or realise that you have died is...wow its amazing

[@jaredruff9823]

But also terrifying.