Spider-Man PS1 Hidden Gem? (Game) Review:

[@1okayjoey]

There’s another hobgoblin room inside an abandoned crane in one of the first few levels of Spider-Man 2000! I played that game so much as a kid

[@fireshock7417]

I did not know there was a Hobgoblin one too! Thanks for sharing and watching :)

[@markmagician2471]

You mean Green Goblin

[@hattoripool1533]

Fun fact: the reason Thor is mentioned is because originally he was meant to show up in a cutscene after the Hyper Electro boss fight but was cut due to the 9/11 incident and there were also a lot more stuff cut from what I heard

[@fireshock7417]

Oh wow, I do remember that being mentioned in the wiki about this game! Thanks for watching :)

[@homeoftek5844]

Didn't know there was a whole lot cut from the game. I thought the only thing cut were the twin towers being remodeled for the final boss fight against Electro

[@OddsTheo]

I had both this and the previous game and this one had a lot more night time levels. I remember finding it a bit spooky, playing the night time train level bits at night time

[@fireshock7417]

Ah nice! Yeah those guards were a bit all over the place haha

[@puffpuffpassmako]

Fun Fact: We were going to get a third installment with Green Goblin as the main villain. Green Goblin wasn't used in the two ps1 games due to Sony forbidding neversoft from using him because of the upcoming Raimi movie. He was going to be used for the third game as the main antagonist but the success of the Raimi movie got the third planned installment cancelled in favor of a Raimi tie-in game, where assets and animations and story elements from the unreleased third game were used for the first Raimi game. Spidey's attacks are all reused animations from the ps1 games. The web dome, web ball, web gloves, and yank are all reused. The Spidey compass also returns as a reuse. Also, we were supposed to get Kraven and Vulture in the third game, since they never appeared in the ps1 games yet, but were used instead for the Raimi game (with kraven being exclusive to the Xbox version).

[@fireshock7417]

Really? Wow, that is news to me! That would have been interesting :)

[@PosthumanHeresy]

It wasn't actually a matter of the success, because the two were released congruently. Neversoft was moved over to making the movie game, which they were all in with because they were extremely excited about the movie. Also, it's also just outright on the same engine as Spider-Man PS1. But you missed something. There's also a Spider-Man 2 on the same engine: PSP Spider-Man 2, making for a fourth game in this series.

[@AliNasser02]

I think the movie game was always going to happen. I don't think there was ever a planned third game. You have a source?

[@Iobsterpeterson]

@@PosthumanHeresy Nope, Treyarch made the movie tie-in game. No idea who in the fuck told you Neversoft made it. NS's one and only Spider-Man game was for the PS1.

[@yoshaosaxofonista]

AUNTMAY is master code to all things on these game. I remember until today

[@fireshock7417]

Hahaha, it just reminds me of He Man, when I used that in the past. I have the power!!! Thanks for watching :)

[@seymourkrelborn4780]

Congrats on getting on the KZbin homepage, always nice to see a small channel

[@fireshock7417]

Thank you! I was not expecting to hear that at all haha 😆 but thank you for the nice comments!

[@seymourkrelborn4780]

@@fireshock7417 You're welcome :) I'm happy for your good fortune

[@hattoripool1533]

Kinda wish we got a third game which I imagine would be on the ps2 due to the fact that the Spider man movie game uses a similar gameplay which makes me wonder if the movie game was originally supposed to be a third game

[@fireshock7417]

Yeah probably just turned into the first Spider-man movie game!

[@HonestJohn_01.19]

It does have a third entry. Spiderman: Mysterio's Menace for the Gameboy Asvance.

[@twall91]

@@HonestJohn_01.19 You’re right! I had that game and it was definitely set in the same universe as these first two! I remember it sucking though… especially the web swinging :/

[@PosthumanHeresy]

It was indeed turned into the movie game

[@firestarter6488]

Nice to see this review does exist! I saw your review on the first game, and it's nice to see other people remember this game too!

[@fireshock7417]

Thank you! From Fireshock to Firestarter! Thanks for watching :)

[@Ihavethetouch]

I always remember skipping Shocker and the bomb-keycard level when replaying this. The costume-ability mixing way before the PS4 one was cool

[@fireshock7417]

The Shocker fight was shockingly bad! Thanks for watching :)

[@Ihavethetouch]

@@fireshock7417 Did you ever complete either of the games on What-If mode? The first one is pretty good with them on

[@fireshock7417]

First one yeah! Second nope!

[@seantaylor424]

Although not as strongly as its predecessor, my love for this game is still noticeable. Less "love like a truck driven by Venom" and more "love like a dune buggy driven by The Shocker." I liked that the game had at least two levels where you could go from rooftop to ground (not including the Danger Room endless mode) and actually got a strong kick out of the bosses and that level where you climb up the tunnel to get to Electro...but yeah, it just didn't feel as "big" as the first one and I don't just mean that it was shorter. The first game's conspiracy wasn't given away from the start, it made more cinematic use of its locations with the fog, had more interesting locations (though, the sequel's museum is pretty cool) and had cameos from a wider range of characters (to say nothing of using all of its villains and not letting Beetle off scot-free). I still think Shocker is prime "First Boss Material," loved the Lizard fight and thought Sandman was pretty creative...but yeah, Electro is not a leading man (even back then, I thought it weird that Norman wasn't in either of these games), none of the stages feel like quite as big a deal as they did in the first game and it's very hard to go from Venom and Carnage to Hammerhead without feeling a little bit of mood-drop (nothing against Hammerhead...but he's not Venom and Carnage). I will say, however, that I loved how this game handled Shocker (he might be a goon, but he's competent and ruthless) and Beetle's one line in the game ("Times change, Spider-Man.") always stuck with me for some reason, even though I didn't know who Abner Jenkins was until a while later, let alone why Spider-Man was surprised to see him fall back into crime...I mean, those are two incredibly-small things, but they stuck with me, so now someone had to hear about them.

[@elsayedhassan627]

Fun fact: you can troll shocker by pulling him with the web, then jump and punch em, and if he uses an attack, use web gloves, it makes you invincible from the shock wave.

[@fireshock7417]

Really, wow, I did not know that! Thanks for sharing! :)

[@KibblezanBitz]

The Beetle was such a weird part of this game. I had no context for his appearance, and it was especially weird seeing him in three cutscenes with a whopping one voice line and no entry in the character viewer. Really weird.

[@fireshock7417]

Agreed! A boss fight with him could have been fun! But ultimately, it's was a pointless addition! Thanks for watching :)

[@canontheory]

Was he really not in the character viewer? Lol

[@SONICDBZFAN07]

That joke at 19:54 earned you a sub, great review !

[@fireshock7417]

Thank you! I do love some Kitchen Nightmares 🤣

[@Samsgm]

you forgot to mention how you can impact web in the air in this game know and a ground house kick

[@fireshock7417]

Oh nice! Thanks for mentioning that! :)

[@marshallhorton7154]

What a professional and funny video essay, no wonder this person has- 361 subscribers?! Make that 362 now!

[@fireshock7417]

Thank you for the kind words! I'm very happy how much people are enjoying my content and grateful for the support! Thanks for watching :)

[@Nigel222]

You do good reviews m8. Just watched both of your Spider-Man reviews. Hope you do more random old games.

[@fireshock7417]

Thank you!

[@Charles-e4x]

As a kid, this game was my introduction to Spider-Man in general, so I have something of a soft spot for it. I remember beating it and really enjoying the overall vibe it gave me. Of course, then I played the first game not long after and only a few minutes into it, I could tell it was on a whole other level. It just had a lot of personality and charm that just didn't carry over into the second game. Still, 2 had its moments. I thought the Electro fights were neat, and I remember the Lizard fight being kinda scary and tense.

[@fireshock7417]

Hey, everyone has a different introduction to Spidey :)

[@Jasonv078]

I always wondered... Why does Electro looks and sounds like Edward Norton om this one?

[@fireshock7417]

Kind of does, yeah :)

[@tomasestay8375]

Other changes that happened after the 9/11 attacks, some cutscenes had to be edited and missions had their name changed from "Crash Flight" to "Wind Tunnel" and the final mission was supposed to take place on the twin towers. There is a pre 9/11 version of the game on youtube.

[@fireshock7417]

That's right!

[@caiofiuzaseixas9027]

i never played the first one i only had enter electro so i have a bias for this game it was so cool to run on the city

[@fireshock7417]

Oh yeah! The city was cool to go around, even if it was just for one level :)

[@lloydshanahan154]

I honestly think the real reason they didn't use Green Goblin was because the movie was in production and Goblin was already going to be in that movie, plus the chances of that movie having a tie-in game where you fight Goblin was inevitable anyway. But I will admit that they still could have used the likes of Kingpin, Hobgoblin, and Kraven in this game. As for why this game was a PS1 exclusive, It was because the N64 and Dreamcast were dying consoles back in 2001. They were both set for retirement when this game was being made. Plus the PS2 was backwards compatible with PS1 games and the PS1 was already the most commonly owned game console by 2001 to begin with. Hence why we were still getting PS1 games into the year 2002. But I will also admit that the reason for not giving this game a PC version is un-forgivable.

[@fireshock7417]

That's a fair reason! Still not putting it on other systems is a bit unfair for everyone else!

[@lloydshanahan154]

@@fireshock7417 I wish this game was on N64 myself given that's the console I owned at the time, but again it made sense given what was happening in 2001. And Like I said, Not giving this game a PC version was a big mistake. I would have gotten that in a heartbeat back then.

[@chris_player2995]

the lizard fight gave me RE vibes

[@fireshock7417]

Yeah, I can see that! Similar to when you encounter a licker for the first time in RE2 :)

[@Hayastantzi92]

Plane Level was always the hardest

[@fireshock7417]

Kindest way to put it haha! 😄

[@nicholasbintner4677]

I love both these games

[@fireshock7417]

First one for sure, second one eh it's fine for me personally! Thanks for watching!

[@theoldworldkitten]

What was up with Sandman's design? Looks like he tanned his face in the hot blazing sun and forgot to tan the rest of his body. Should've been a consistent skin tone instead of a sandy-tone of colored texture on everywhere but his head. Anyway, it happened and it is what it is.

[@fireshock7417]

Yeah, it is a bit werid, I more think his voice sounds like someone off Eastenders (a soap in the UK)! Thanks for watching :)

[@porterdavis1612]

I went and picked up some copies of both games the other month and played them for the first time in over 15 years. Is it just me or is the 2nd game significantly harder than the 1st one? Much love!

[@fireshock7417]

Fair enough, mate, that is a rare opinion! But, I am glad you enjoyed the second one alot :)

[@chinchindaisukiman]

You don't actually need to be in what if mode to find the goblin lair

[@fireshock7417]

Oh really? I thought it was just a what if mode exclusive. Thanks for telling me :)

[@bivv93]

16:24 there r 6 Box Fights lolzzz

[@fireshock7417]

Omg I forgot about that haha thanks for watching :)

[@bivv93]

@@fireshock7417 hahahahah that really suited the box-like bosses. I wished the graphics were twice as better as first game. The first game is just may ne unparalleled in terms of vibes

[@The_Infamous_Boogyman]

Only released on 1 system? Dang, impressive. But why not go w neversoft again?

[@fireshock7417]

No clue tbh! My only guess is they just want to make a quick squeal to make some extra cash!

[@criticaledge7612]

I played this last night. I'm also working on a review for it. Sadly my capture software froze and I have to play several levels again.

[@fireshock7417]

Capture cards can be the bane of life at points! I look forward to your review :)

[@GraySheep1717]

AMAZING VIDEO

[@TheSauceYouGetLostin]

I really think Sandman would have been a better mastermind, think of the title I mean "Enter Sandman" it could work. Like that one song, I forget the name.

[@fireshock7417]

Haha, I love Enter Sandman. It's a great song! Maybe it could work? I still Green Goblin would been a better choice! Thanks for watching :)

[@musicbrush9231]

While I did enjoy this game a lot, mainly because of the suit/power upgrades, I find this review to be quite fair and accurate. It wasn't as good as the first game by a long shot. I don't know how long I spent learning how to work the web-based attacks so I could have an easier time with some of the enemies/levels. Still enjoyed it, though.

[@fireshock7417]

At the end of the day, if you enjoy this game, that is all that matters :)

[@2000mudkip]

goblin is canonically dead in the 2000 universe

[@fireshock7417]

Ah, ok! I do not recall them saying that in either game! But, thanks for the clarification on that :)

[@2000mudkip]

@@fireshock7417 It's in the first game's manual

[@fireshock7417]

Oh really? I didn't have the manual with my copy haha

[@Rogu666.]

All the good villians u would choose for the game are all in jail from the first game so they had to settle for the b team for the sequel

[@fireshock7417]

Good point! Could just break them out haha? Thanks for watching :)

[@TheMultiverseSpider-Man]

I feel like the second game has a much more cohesive story like- it flows better, so much of the first is unrelated to the main plot and there's just a lot of stuff that doesn't make sense, like- why the hell are symbiotes infesting the Bugle? Why the fuck is Mysterio chilling in the basement? How did Rhino play into the overall scheme? What purpose did nabbing Black Cat have? Like- she only exists to get help so there's a way for Spidey to escape at the end otherwise there's no real narrative reason for Ock to abduct her and keep her captive. And like- Spidey isn't even actively looking for her once she is. Venom taking over Lizard's base is solely done so there's baddies and even as a kid it felt kind of weird. Like yeah I definitely agree it has way more charm and a better rogue's gallery, but I personally feel like they all connect really poorly vs the second game where every rogue has a purpose and one event leads right into the next nothing feels like- a forced side quest. I agree though Electro is kind of an odd pick as the leader of a group, but also they kind of blew their load on the first game, like outside Green Goblin there's not that many other iconic rogues they could have used I feel like. I think it's solid, just unfortunately lacks like a really good heavy hitter, heck even Hobgoblin would have worked. I mean I could have even seen Kraven as a great choice, but instead he's just only referenced. I think they could have ditched Hammerhead and Beetle for Kraven and Goblin who could have been like partners mirroring Carnage and Ock and the game would like automatically be more memorable or heck like I said Goblin and Kraven, HECK GG and HG would have been SICK and you could have pulled from the animated show and have them plotting to betray the other once they defeated Spidey and had that tie into the final fight.

[@fireshock7417]

I agree on the Goblin point 100%

[@monokromis]

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[@fireshock7417]

Thank you for the kind comment :)

[@razvancornea6761]

beast was in dese because the x man fighting game the 2 one xman academy i thenk it was calld wos made bay vacarius vezion and had spidy in it was a welcomd cros over

[@fireshock7417]

Ah, I see! It's still an odd choice, though! Is that game any good? I've always been curious about it, but I'm terrible at fighting games 🤣 Thanks for watching :)

[@razvancornea6761]

@@fireshock7417 the game is greyt x2 academy is good the next one on ps2 i dont lick

[@emilyalucard]

Your take on the venom movies was very based I would love to see funny venom in a movie that's actually funny

[@fireshock7417]

Thank you! I'll have to look at them one day! :)

[@emilyalucard]

Shout out to web of shadows honestly it's probably my favorite open-world Spider-Man game had a really fun combat and uninteresting story it sucks they didn't get to put symbiote Moon knight and it though

[@emilyalucard]

Yeah sure that's a shattered dimensions best Spider-Man game

[@fireshock7417]

Both really good games tbh! This will not be last time I'm covering Spidey games for sure:)

[@emilyalucard]

@@fireshock7417 yay 💜

[@homeoftek5844]

I think the first game was better when it came to the gameplay and cast. But this game is better as far as music if nothing else. The music in this game is some of the best music I've ever heard in videogames

[@fireshock7417]

Agreed on the first game being better! To be honest, I prefer the music in the first game. Second is not terrible, just not very memorable compared to the first for me personally! But hey, everyone has different tastes. Thanks for watching :)

[@homeoftek5844]

@@fireshock7417 the first game only really had maybe a few really good tracks like the cop chase, the elevator and the waterfront warehouse. While not bad, most of the music in the first game wasn't really anything special. I think the gameplay kinda made the music sound better. Enter Electro's ost seems less memorable at face value. I felt the same way at first. But when you really stop and listen to the music in that game, those unique ambient techno mixed with rock themes go ham lol

[@kingsfield3945]

Yeah I think Enter Electro's OST grows on you the more you listen to it. Great as study music or music to play in your car while you drive out to the city at night.

[@seansgamingchannel4639]

I dont really agree about the soundtrack opinion of the game, i actually like enter electros music better than some of the first games music

[@fireshock7417]

Fair enough, mate! Everyone has different tastes haha thanks for commenting and watching :)

[@seansgamingchannel4639]

@@fireshock7417 you're welcome ;) Both games are still amazing to me to this day I still play them both, glad to see I ain't the only one still playing these amazing games

[@kingsfield3945]

It definitely has a few bangers IMO, "In Darkest of Night" is a really good ambient track for one.

[@seansgamingchannel4639]

@@kingsfield3945 yup you're right

[@iancruz6617]

Notice game still good just feels on the other is because never soft didn't made the sequel a different company did that uses there engine

[@fireshock7417]

It does use the same engine true!

[@Fr0stbit3_]

I will not tolerate this Venom movie slander! I am pretty sure the PS1 Venom was likely an inspiration for movie Venom. THANK SHREK they didn't try to mimic Raimi's god awful Venom.

[@demosneokleous4877]

Well it's not hidden. It's one of the best-selling games on the PS1

[@fireshock7417]

Hidden gem in terms of an underrated spidey game :)

[@demosneokleous4877]

​@@fireshock7417 Ultimate Spider-Man is more underrated. Not very long ago Shattered Dimensions was more underrated than Spider-Man PS1

[@fireshock7417]

I will 100% do Ultimate one day :)

[@aaronhemme8913]

As I said in my previous comment on your other Spider-Man video if it wasn't for that one and including this one I wouldn't have became the huge comic book Marvel nerd that I am today and I wouldn't have the tattoo on my arm that's half Batman symbol half Spider-Man symbol. Also... FUCK THAT PLANE LEVEL!!!!!😡😡😡😡😡😡🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

[@fireshock7417]

1000% fuck that plane level!

[@rcadenow7543]

the camera was pretty bad in this one.

[@fireshock7417]

Agreed! Not as bad as the first game, but still pretty bad! Thanks for watching!

[@raresmacovei8382]

For as good as SM 2000 is, just as crap Enter Electro is. Horrendous difficulty spikes. And a way less interesting story and less interesting villains overall.

[@fireshock7417]

Yeah, I have to agree with that!

[@Jasm783]

Oh wow so.... u say all jokes in this video but when spider man said one joke about the train one u didn't like it :/

[@fireshock7417]

You have to admit it was not one of Spidey's best!

[@Jasm783]

@fireshock7417 it's called unexpected joke right? (´･ω･)