Spider-Man's WORST Adapted Villain

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@Ash-Winchester
@Ash-Winchester Жыл бұрын
That last rhino story really hits you right in the feels. I actually felt sorry for the guy. Man just wanted to settle down with a good woman.
@byronrush9802
@byronrush9802 Жыл бұрын
Yep and I understand why he'll never forgive Spider-Man but should have been getting plane tickets I know that would lead to other people dying but f*** them I want rhino to have a happy ending
@brainthebrian3690
@brainthebrian3690 11 ай бұрын
I can't really buy someone dedicating their life to be the next _Rhino_ of all villains; I also didn't see why he couldn't have used his super intelligence to at least try to undo the Rhino suit, but still, such a good story for such a minor character.
@sboinkthelegday3892
@sboinkthelegday3892 11 ай бұрын
Rhino is the character they should kill off, put a woman in it and make her gay. What she gonna do, pole dancing? Tattoo artist?
@toasega
@toasega Жыл бұрын
"What job would you hire him for?" At the lower levels, Construction and/or Demolition, Emergency Services like Firefighting, rescuing people trapped under rubble, maybe some intensive law enforcement work like SWAT, etc. At the higher end, well-paid bodyguard, or maybe something in military work like a specialized one-man heavy armament unit with mounted rocket launchers and whatnot, etc. There ARE options, they're just limited.
@LaffyTaffy04
@LaffyTaffy04 Жыл бұрын
I can tell you exactly what would happen in those scenarios. They're either not going to pay him his worth and when he makes a fuss about it the police are called or someone hits him up for a "special" job off that books that turns out to be criminal, leading him back to a life of crime.
@SavageJarJar
@SavageJarJar Жыл бұрын
Yeah he would be paid well in demolition
@Metalhead25
@Metalhead25 Жыл бұрын
He’s also an American ex-convict for whatever that’s worth
@d.whillmar1740
@d.whillmar1740 Жыл бұрын
I mean, the Thing has the same problem, but he didn't succumb to evil
@celestialcreeper8736
@celestialcreeper8736 Жыл бұрын
​@@d.whillmar1740yeah but the thing has the fantastic 4 to be with.A girlfriend.Also is basically rich and has no financial problems because he lives with reed as a member of the fantastic 4.While rino has literally nothing besides crime.
@noahtheasiankid
@noahtheasiankid Жыл бұрын
The problem with interpreting the rhino (from a casuals POV) is that he lends himself to dumb fun. Kingpin is nearly identical with how he loves his wife and hates spidey, but he’s got a whole crime syndicate where they can flesh him out. Unfortunately all these iterations make him go full rhino. And as RDJ put it in tropic thunder, never go full rhino
@ColeDoesWhat
@ColeDoesWhat Жыл бұрын
Scorpion is also pretty similar to Rhino when you think about it as well.
@HellecticMojo
@HellecticMojo Жыл бұрын
@@ColeDoesWhat Scorpion is the ultimate "should be cool, but lame AF" villain. The animal motif is great until you realize that his suit just turns him into a green monkey and a Doctor Octopus that can maybe take a punch or two from Spidey (hilarious subverted in Superior Spiderman) at the cost of being no where interesting or smart.
@csbanahan
@csbanahan Жыл бұрын
Also unlike Kingpin, Rhino is a man in a Rhinoceros costume.
@Torchflare
@Torchflare 11 ай бұрын
Not every villain needs to be a deep, thought-provoking character. It's okay for some bad guys to just enjoy being a bad guy and Rhino fits that role well.
@sboinkthelegday3892
@sboinkthelegday3892 11 ай бұрын
@@Torchflare Too bad for you he IS a shallow, thought-provoking character, but make good use of those floaties if you must. "Fits a role" man, why do so many villain archetypes read comics about heroes? It's not a soviet army uniform, it's a big honking Rhino costume.
@DanielDeLeon69
@DanielDeLeon69 Жыл бұрын
I Always Thought The Rhino Was A Decent Villain For Spider-Man To Fight
@spidermania
@spidermania Жыл бұрын
He’s so good man
@spidercrash
@spidercrash Жыл бұрын
Same
@Morbius-Tension
@Morbius-Tension Жыл бұрын
I always loved rhino especially when he appears in most games he doesn’t really need to be in like MUA and Spider Man edge of time Ds
@jondot.fullstop
@jondot.fullstop Жыл бұрын
Why Do You Type Like This?
@Wertsir
@Wertsir Жыл бұрын
@@jondot.fullstopI’m Yelling The First Letter Of Each Word And Whispering The Rest. Mentally Read Me As Such.
@greenhornet510
@greenhornet510 Жыл бұрын
It's basically the same problem with Dr. Doom,no adaptation really captures dooms motives and real ambitions
@kiden3112
@kiden3112 Жыл бұрын
Like that time he pointed out to the goddess Bast that, as he is also a VERY skilled Sorcerer, he's looked into the future of Mankind and saw only one where they remained. The one where he ruled. And she stepped aside after hearing that.
@kylepessell1350
@kylepessell1350 Жыл бұрын
@@kiden3112 Seems like that might have a bit of confirmation bias. The main issue with prophecy outside of the obvious is that most of the time you are only going to interpret things the way you want. It's unreasonable to assume that Doom looked at EVERY possible future for humankind. He just saw a good one where he happened to be in charge and then called it a day because that was convenient for him. Dr. Doom has an ego and a savior complex which makes it really easy for him to latch onto that potential future and ignore other options.
@kiden3112
@kiden3112 Жыл бұрын
@kylepessell1350 True, yet the example there involved Bast agreeing with him. Word for word, "I too, have looked into the million pathways of the future. I, too, have seen the one path that leads to a world without evil, without hurt, without want. And though my own soul cries out in denial, I MUST act according to the truth." And that's why Black Panther's goddess stepped aside to let Doom take some Vibranium she was guarding thanks to magic, which Doom had stripped down completely in order to be judged while laid bare (literally and metaphorically). Now, Bast at least never says Doomworld is that path (in the portion I've seen at least, I would expect that got explicitly denied later on unless the writers were Doom fans, but Marvel Writers' Quality is as steady as stock market prices), but she does say that while his methods are vile, his intent is pure, as everything he does is all for the sake of the one goal of saving Mankind.
@gameyfirebro9645
@gameyfirebro9645 11 ай бұрын
I mean if an adaptation is him wanting total global ruling then I think LEGO Marvel Superheroes miraculously manages to at least get that part down in a very LEGO way.
@adila.9044
@adila.9044 11 ай бұрын
Live-action adaptations are the reason why modern Dr. Doom is such a poorly written OP Mary Sue. Fanboys who are familiar with the comics feel the need to exaggerate how powerful, nuanced, and interesting Doom is to sell normies on how horribly unjust it is that their character has never appeared on the silver screen as a techno-mage dictator. They write him like his own stereotypical dictator "I am Invincible and infallible" propaganda is real. He used to be powerful, but also kind of an egregious idiot who constantly overrated himself and underestimated everyone else. It made him a good threat for an upper-mid level team like the F4. Now he's casually destroying universes because they displease him and he's practically a God of science and magic. And also it's Marvel canon that the only truly peaceful and prosperous timelines are the ones where he rules the world as a global dictator.
@LaffyTaffy04
@LaffyTaffy04 Жыл бұрын
Rhino being stuck in the suit for money is like how Spider-Man used his powers for money when he first started out. Only later to find out the consequences of their actions have sent them down a path they cannot escape. Also, I kinda wished that you brought up that the Rhino is the villain Spider-Man is afraid to fight the most and it makes sense. Even in the game, he's invulnerable to whatever Spider-Man can do to him without an outside factor (Or Miles' Venom but that feels like it's just something he wasn't prepared for).
@camerondalton1495
@camerondalton1495 11 ай бұрын
Spider-Man is afraid to fight him?
@LaffyTaffy04
@LaffyTaffy04 11 ай бұрын
Yes. Remember that Spider-Man doesn't have anything on hand that can hurt him. He has to rely luring him somewhere with something to incapacitate him. If he can't find that...well, look at what happened to Pete fighting Rhino in the beginning of Spider-Man Miles Morales@@camerondalton1495
@mero7731
@mero7731 11 ай бұрын
Alexis didn’t have a choice tho. He physically could not escape his fate. Peter chose to be Spider-Man based off recognizing his decisions. Nobody was forced into that life
@DanRyzESPUK
@DanRyzESPUK 8 ай бұрын
​@camerondalton1495 Rhino is the one villain that matches Spiderman in strength. He's dumber, but he can really hurt Spidey if he's got a lucky punch. Normally Spidey had to outsmart him, since Rhino had a lot of endurance and stamina. That's what was in the comics, the classic ones.
@spooonky
@spooonky Жыл бұрын
I think insomniac did great with rhino. Through audio tapes we find out he just wants the suit off and after the sinister 6 fail his hatred for Spiderman grows. Also it isn’t confirmed he’s dead
@yellowstarproductions6743
@yellowstarproductions6743 9 ай бұрын
Agreed
@the_mothdegenerate973
@the_mothdegenerate973 Жыл бұрын
5:38 i think the closest a cartoon has gotten to that might be Ultimate Spider-Man actually, where after continuosly exposing himself to a serum that turns him into the Rhino, his transformation becomes permanent sadly it's not really explored all too much besides him blaming Flash for it and going on a rampage, which he eventually gets talked down from
@theamazingspooderman2697
@theamazingspooderman2697 Жыл бұрын
he then joins SHIELD but is accused for being the secret spy but Ben turns out to be the secret spy
@the_mothdegenerate973
@the_mothdegenerate973 Жыл бұрын
@@theamazingspooderman2697 but he also kind of was the secret spy because he turns on the team after Ock promises to cure him
@loonytunescrazy
@loonytunescrazy Жыл бұрын
I like the 90's fox's animated too
@theamazingspooderman2697
@theamazingspooderman2697 Жыл бұрын
​@@the_mothdegenerate973 yeah I just didn't remembered that part it seems cuz others are saying the same too
@attakrus
@attakrus 11 ай бұрын
You know, I don’t think all Rhino adaptations were bad. My favorite one was Ultimate Spider-Man. The guy wasn’t even a robber, he was a nerd bullied by Flash who got a hold on a Rhino serum from Oscorp. After he transformed and tried to kill Flash, he was locked away by S.H.E.I.L.D. Later in the series, Peter and Flash (now Agent Venom) try to reason with him into turning good again but Rhino denies them, saying that what is done is done and he can’t be turnt. This Rhino adaptation shows how bullying can really affect someone. Because we don’t know what they’ve been through… or what they could become.
@ognurd9858
@ognurd9858 Жыл бұрын
If I remember correctly, the ultimate spider-man show while having a pretty different story in a lot of ways, showed Rhino as a kid who made a dumb choice because he was bullied and now has to deal with the permanent consequences, and the rest of his character arch was about him coming to terms with his Rhinoceros body and eventually becoming a hero.
@yellowstarproductions6743
@yellowstarproductions6743 9 ай бұрын
Agreed
@skellytheskeletos8490
@skellytheskeletos8490 5 ай бұрын
Aww thats super sweet story
@spinjitzumasterfalcon
@spinjitzumasterfalcon Жыл бұрын
Imagine being so smart that you completely rig the superhero vs supervillain dynamic. That’s talent
@yellowstarproductions6743
@yellowstarproductions6743 9 ай бұрын
Agreed
@jakeybakey4271
@jakeybakey4271 9 ай бұрын
I would love a marvel 10 minute skit of The Wall vs the Rhino, where he just tries to run through The Wall. “The one wall he can’t crawl” nah “the one wall he can’t get a concussion from”
@monobro141
@monobro141 Жыл бұрын
I think the problem is they only remember his muscles but not his heart or brain he's just "smash stuff" and "roar"
@gameyfirebro9645
@gameyfirebro9645 11 ай бұрын
Well "smash stuff", "roar", and "Why you little-" tricked into smashing wall or something.
@leibgarde6144
@leibgarde6144 Жыл бұрын
Im a little surprised that you didnt mentioned the "Ulitimate Spider-Man"-series Rhino. In this he was a child bullied by Flash until he created a serum which should give him strength to take revenge but in the end it turned him forever into the Rhino. He tried multiple times than to kill Flash but Spider-man intervenes and so he became a Spider-Man villian. Later Spide-Man and Hulk convinced him to use his power for good and he joined Shield for the "New Warriors" Program to teach young heroes how to be a superhero. But, a Season or two later, in the end it turns out he was was spy for Doc Ock who promise him so help him getting his normal body back.
@spidermania
@spidermania Жыл бұрын
Yeah I probably could’ve went more in-depth into seeing as how he’s like the most different rhino story by far. I more so wanted to focus on a lack of showing other sides or depth to rhino whereas ultimate cartoon kinda just did their own thing with the character. Which I definitely appreciated Thanks for watching and I appreciate the comment
@roeimakikiderikadragontwin9898
@roeimakikiderikadragontwin9898 Жыл бұрын
wait didn't rhino was a guy in mech in ultimate spiderman?
@BizarreInterestsProductions
@BizarreInterestsProductions Жыл бұрын
@@roeimakikiderikadragontwin9898 in the ultimate Spider-Man games yes but in the ultimate Spider-Man TV show no
@roeimakikiderikadragontwin9898
@roeimakikiderikadragontwin9898 Жыл бұрын
(@@BizarreInterestsProductions) oh yeah we completely forgotten about the series.
@theamazingspooderman2697
@theamazingspooderman2697 Жыл бұрын
he stole the serum from Oscorp I'm pretty sure, also wasn't Scarlet Spider the spy and not Rhino? I don't remember that part much so I could be wrong
@kaydencurtis6620
@kaydencurtis6620 Жыл бұрын
I really wish rhino had more to do and kinda sucks that he always the same but I think he’s a decent villain I think it would be better to have appear as a scary and menacing villain.
@batfreeze56
@batfreeze56 Жыл бұрын
Rhino is one of my favorite characters. I'd love to see an adaptation of "Flowers for Rhino"
@lordjugga168
@lordjugga168 Жыл бұрын
I think it'd make a good movie. Wish marvel went the dc route and made animated movies more often like that
@blumouse8539
@blumouse8539 11 ай бұрын
To answer the question about how he uses the bathroom, there's a flap on the back. At least in one continuity.
@starbright592
@starbright592 Жыл бұрын
I think a good job for Rino would be a construction worker
@anubusx
@anubusx Жыл бұрын
Bouncer.
@monobro141
@monobro141 Жыл бұрын
Boxer
@eggman445
@eggman445 Жыл бұрын
@@monobro141who would he fight💀
@sboinkthelegday3892
@sboinkthelegday3892 11 ай бұрын
Republican in name only? But no, it's pretty much a metaphor for being tatted up, nobody wants a construction worker to become a public spectacle and Karens calling in "how dare you have the Rhino working for you!" So, a sailor? As a story telling device, the point is that whatever the necessity for unifromity might be, Rhino would always be a step too far from that. So even if it's PLAUSIBLE a good story would still have him being the exacption to the rule there's always a place SOMEWHERE, for anybody. He's like that little goblin dude in 300.
@calvinboucher5741
@calvinboucher5741 Жыл бұрын
Rhino isn’t actually confirmed to be dead in the Insomniac universe. We didn’t get solid confirmation that Phin killed him since Miles did yank her away but like right after she stabbed him. The image of Rhino on Kraven’s wall was in the game’s files but never made it into the finished version meaning Kraven didn’t kill him. With this in mind it’s entirely possible that Rhino can be in the third game and given the second game’s big emphasis on second chances and rehabilitation I think Rhino is ripe for that kind of story.
@sparking023
@sparking023 Жыл бұрын
Spider-Man has one of the best rogue's gallery in comics. Even goofy villains like the Spot turn into real menaces with the proper writing and there's always some depth to them. And yes, part of what I like in Rhino is how goofy he is at principle, just a big guy in a super rhino onesie, but when you look deeper, there's a lot to be explored
@monobro141
@monobro141 Жыл бұрын
Really I think Clancy Brown/Mr Krabs was the only one to truly nail Rhino in Spectacular Spiderman
@IDKALaN96
@IDKALaN96 Жыл бұрын
1:17 Madio this you?
@Rodrigo_B_Viana
@Rodrigo_B_Viana Жыл бұрын
At least Rhino on Spectacular Spider Man was fun to watch
@okot-cl1yq
@okot-cl1yq 5 ай бұрын
In lego marvel super heroes rhino just wanted to be alone. That's closest we get
@BizarreInterestsProductions
@BizarreInterestsProductions Жыл бұрын
I’m gonna get so much shit for saying this but I think the Ultimate show and to a lesser extent Marvel 2017 did him a bit more unique. In Ultimate he was bullied just like Peter was thanks to Rhino, took the serum to become Rhino, and hated it so much that he desperately wanted a cure. Peter convinced him to join the New Warriors and he actually managed to be a solid hero but Ock brainwashed him after tricking him with the promises of a cure, and Spidey only managed to give him that chance by the end of the series Hell in 2017 he’s not even a bad person though they did have to alter his entire personality character, but at least becoming a dumb route was an accident.
@theamazingspooderman2697
@theamazingspooderman2697 Жыл бұрын
Ultimate show Rhino was very good
@valdyboy6993
@valdyboy6993 Жыл бұрын
Rhino isnt dead in spider man 2 i dont understand why people still say that if they decided to put his head out of bound it means that they dont want him dead otherwise they would have left a tape of kraven like he did to the other villains beside with doc ock being involved again in spiderman 3 its most likely he will try to use rhino again since insomniac spidrman dosent want to be rhino anymore:"No more suit, No more Rhino" so maybe they could free him from the suit in that 3rd game
@undeadinside3571
@undeadinside3571 11 ай бұрын
He's already overused IMO. The villains in Miles Morales were -Rhino -Prowler -Rhino AGAIN -Tinkerer
@kyleevison8889
@kyleevison8889 Жыл бұрын
The way all of these shows, movies, and video games show the rhino just completely brainwashes our thoughts on the rhino’s personality. The more in-depth videos I’ve seen on rhino has made me change my initial opinions on the character and actually make me respect him for what he actually is.
@TheaverageGamer-xv7rv
@TheaverageGamer-xv7rv 10 ай бұрын
Rhinos job:demolition
@blametheghost
@blametheghost Жыл бұрын
Rhino would be an excellent demolition man or a construction worker carrying heavy stuff ngl, but i still feel bad for him
@ItchyPeenar
@ItchyPeenar Жыл бұрын
i like the commentary of his character being somebody whos only ever known a life of crime and is physically unable to change anything about it. it reflects a lot of real world felons who do actually want to do better but the world has already branded them a certain way. they get turned down job opportunities or avoided by people which leaves them going back to the only way theyve known how to live.
@FrozenVibraniumProductions
@FrozenVibraniumProductions 11 ай бұрын
Frrr, Rhino’s an allegory for the prison pipeline
@gogetathestrongestfusion
@gogetathestrongestfusion Жыл бұрын
Rhino was done best in insomniac’s he has a pretty fun personality that is more than just a brute
@kamenridertheblueknight5313
@kamenridertheblueknight5313 11 ай бұрын
Actually in Ultimate Spider-Man the Rhino of that show did have the desire to no longer be the rhino, I can remember any specifics other then he gets a happy ending by the end of the show Plus we don’t know if it’s confirmed if Insomiac Rhino is dead or not
@squishysquidward2507
@squishysquidward2507 11 ай бұрын
Flowers for Algernon actually made me cry DURING the group reading at school. When it was MY turn to read. Got choked up and couldn't keep going bc I was still a kid
@Dante-Balisk
@Dante-Balisk 11 ай бұрын
For being stuck in a suit, id be surprised there hasn't been a version yet with him being affected by a symbiote.
@salad6996
@salad6996 11 ай бұрын
there is
@TheaverageGamer-xv7rv
@TheaverageGamer-xv7rv 10 ай бұрын
also in spider-man:Miles Morales, insomniacs Rhino was pretty smart. He had PHD in Russian lecture, he never wanted the suit, and had one-liners!
@bencherbryant-48
@bencherbryant-48 Жыл бұрын
In all honesty for the longest, I thought rhino was just a big guy in a super suit. I didn’t know he got his powers through gamma radiation
@bartimaeus1887
@bartimaeus1887 11 ай бұрын
Check out "Deadly Foes of Spiderman" In that series he is raising money to remove the suit. He prevents the sinister 6 from killing spiderman because he doesn't want to get wanted for murder. He ends up fleeing to Mexico with his illgotten gains.
@roldyplayz4002
@roldyplayz4002 Жыл бұрын
I wish insomniac went more into Rhino trying to get the suit removed and him moving on with his life.
@VinnieSajan
@VinnieSajan Жыл бұрын
I remember reading TASM 625 a long time ago and remember thinking this would make such a good movie. Especially in these times where everybody loves to have a villain that they can really understand and see some kind of redemption arc. It would have a very tragic end. A more tragic end imo than a lot of Spidey adaptations and villains, but no one would ever look at rhino the same way as he has been seen for last 30 years or so.
@foxos7776
@foxos7776 Жыл бұрын
“The guy gets grafted and stuck to a rhino suit and his first thought is, where’s spiderman I wanna beat him up”. That right there is what we call a smoke demon folks.
@SethG3cko
@SethG3cko 11 ай бұрын
This was failed to mention but later in spectacular Spider-Man and in insomniacs version you do hear that each version of there rhino is suffering and Spider-Man is there to hear that.
@kldn-xtlxmr7675
@kldn-xtlxmr7675 Жыл бұрын
The problem with rhino is that nobody understands what the f to do with the character after the arc with him ends Think about it, no one it's really sure about what to do with his storyline once he gets beaten, since he's just portrayed as a big tough guy to beat, but that's about it, he doesn't really has a consistent story among the multiple universes that have depicted him in the past, so we can't even say we like the character, just the idea of the character itself We could say he's just an unlucky guy who has a good heart deep down, and just wants to do the best for his family or his loved ones right?.... Yeah that's sandman We could say that he's a victim of an experiment that went wrong, and now is trapped by his own powers, and now is a criminal to survive right??.... That's doc ock too We could just say he's a mercenary right? One dangerous foe who wants to eliminate Spider-Man once and for all.... That's Scorpion as well (and Kraven beyond being a mercenary) That's the problem with rhino, nobody is sure what the hell is the character supposed to be besides being big and strong, since whatever the story is, there is another character who shares basically the same story but without the rhinoceros gimmick All of those rhino versions are valid, yeah, but we cannot say we love the character, because of how inconsistent he is among his various versions, since nobody is sure what to do with his character once Spidey beats him up
@maxburrill6192
@maxburrill6192 Жыл бұрын
They've developed every other villain, so surely it wouldn't be so hard for Rhino.
@PlushieDimension
@PlushieDimension Жыл бұрын
Maybe he just likes running through walls, that’s sounds like enough of a motive.
@maxburrill6192
@maxburrill6192 Жыл бұрын
@@PlushieDimension I see you've seen that Solidjj skit as well.
@lukalamorakboye2398
@lukalamorakboye2398 11 ай бұрын
To be fair Spectacular Spider-Man would probably make that type of Rhino story but the show got cancelled
@lucaslongolucasksenha7827
@lucaslongolucasksenha7827 11 ай бұрын
Rhino and Bane (from Batman) have the same problem with the brute force while being stupid (even know that Bane introducion in the comics shows that he have muscle and intelligence knowing even Bruce secret identity)
@CraneOnaKrane
@CraneOnaKrane 12 күн бұрын
1:29 “ I am so scared, I can’t even finish my lame joke”😂😂😂
@jouhomato1983
@jouhomato1983 Жыл бұрын
there was no mention about rhino from amaizing spiderman animation where he was a weak nerd who wanted to be stronger
@bloodred255
@bloodred255 11 ай бұрын
I like how they made rhino smart, they felt the need to give him glasses he likely did not need.
@thecandlemaker1329
@thecandlemaker1329 11 ай бұрын
I think the reason why the character's backstory is usually ignored in adaptations is that the idea that putting on a permanent fursuit makes you a superhuman is inherently pretty stupid. This simple fact always remains in the background of whatever is happening to Rhino and undermines the tragedies that he experiences. Imagine if Hamlet had gigantic Dumbo ears that allowed him to fly by flapping them, and he couldn't be with Ophelia because of these ears. That would be pretty tragic if you think about it, but the tragedy would be severely undermined by the sheer stupidity of these humongous ears.
@emilegalli9549
@emilegalli9549 11 ай бұрын
But...that "stupidity" is bang on what comics are about. Every story is filled with character getting powers in strange, colorful and impossible ways. I don't see that as any different.
@radrno7
@radrno7 11 ай бұрын
That reminds me off books where that creates an even more interesting dynamic. Character has a really dumb affliction, they learn to deal with it and the ridiculous premise becomes a much deeper story about how even stupidity can have more meaning than being just stupid. Yeah, it's cliché, but the lesson is there, like sports movies showing how one can succeed by overcoming their personal struggles. Rhino is basically Rocky Balboa, he doesn't fight because he wants to or because others want him to, he just does it because he likes it. It's simple, but it works, specially if it's well told.
@mero7731
@mero7731 11 ай бұрын
Have we forgotten what comic books are? When Donner was making the first Superman movie, the tagline was “ you’ll believe a man can fly” because the concept was so ridiculous you’ll have to actually believe in it for it to be real. You honestly described Batman. When I watch a Batman scene I can’t help but snicker because of how ridiculous he is especially when they’re being super serious. Watching those movies and getting immersed in them takes away that sense of reality
@Gabe600
@Gabe600 Ай бұрын
The only stupid thing is your comment
@ghostsurfer23
@ghostsurfer23 Жыл бұрын
Brother, props to you for getting this so right. The Rhino II storyline was a revelation to me. I liked the Rhino from the 90s cartoon for the aesthetic and the big dumb strong guy shtick, and after that storyline I was had new layers to appreciate a character I loved from my childhood.
@comicbookking3446
@comicbookking3446 Жыл бұрын
2 questions 1. What do you at least think of Clancy Brown’s performance as Rhino ? 2. How would you feel if Rhino reformed after he teamed up with Spider-Man to stop Silver Sable and Hammerhead in Spectacular Spider-Man just like Sandman ?
@RhinoMaster-xf6ko
@RhinoMaster-xf6ko 11 ай бұрын
Preach!! Finally someone understands me!!! No but seriously, Rhino is a very complicated and unique character, and he has 2 incredible, emotional stories (those being Flowers for Rhino and the story with new Rhino and Aleksei's wife) and they're both some of the best things I've seen, Rhino is a very tragic and complicated character and with good enough righters he can be one of the greatest foils to Spider-man
@arionischambers3793
@arionischambers3793 Жыл бұрын
2017's Spider-Man show had a smart Alexsei who repeatedly is transformed against his will into Rhino and hates it. He also has poor eyesight when transformed.
@campbelltaylor782
@campbelltaylor782 Жыл бұрын
While I think it works for Rhino as a character, what I hate about most of these Flowers for Algernon adaptations is that in the original text, the main character never chooses to relinquish his intelligence. A lot of the pathos of the story comes from the fear and grief of losing the parts of their intelligence that made their life better, not just looking forward to being essentially mentally disabled for the sake of relatability as the SpongeBob and Simpsons adaptations opt for. Probably because the actually story is far more depressing, and the general public is just not ready to hear that higher intelligence is really more of a blessing than a curse 😂
@Vherstinae
@Vherstinae Жыл бұрын
I never really cared for Rhino until I plucked the latest Spider-Man comic off a grocery-store rack in the mid 90s. It was entitled "Revenge of the Rhino!" I didn't really care about Rhino but Spider-Man was my comic at the time so I checked it out. The entire story wasn't that Rhino was out for vengeance, but that his rampage was prompted by a single thing: his suit toughened his skin so much that he has no real sense of touch. He can't feel anything. Even SWAT shooting at him does nothing. It takes Spidey electrocuting Rhino with enough voltage to brown-out an entire city block that he finally drops, thanking Spider-Man for helping him feel anything.
@ajjtheamazing5615
@ajjtheamazing5615 Жыл бұрын
Tbf, the main reason why Rhino agrees to work with Doc Ock is because he promised to have his suit removed and made significant progess. Idk if its addressed in Spidermab 2, but i like to assume Roxxon did something similar.
@Arumia13
@Arumia13 Жыл бұрын
Right? It’s not agreed because it’s a video game and they didn’t have time, but it’s mentioned and is a big thing
@rickyronny4019
@rickyronny4019 Жыл бұрын
Damn. I always thought the Rhino was a dumb simple minded brute but this video taught me that he is a lot more fleshed out than I thought
@blo0dysmiles297
@blo0dysmiles297 11 ай бұрын
"I am so scared I can't even finish my lame joke" that shit gets me to this day I always love when Peter KNOWS his qips are shit and is only doing them to annoy
@namename-ko4pf
@namename-ko4pf Жыл бұрын
He is not confirmed dead in insomniac verse what you shown us is an out of bounds think that we shouldn't have seen, maybe we didn't properly see it because insomniac changed their mind
@vantablack2354
@vantablack2354 11 ай бұрын
In contrast too the comics, Spectacular Spidermans Rhino actually seems to really like the suit, to the point of trying to stop the creation of other Rhino's.
@Minronis
@Minronis Жыл бұрын
If I were to put Aleksei in a feature length adaptation, I'd focus on his status as an immigrant from Russia, much like Niko from Grand Theft Auto IV. When Aleksei comes to America, its to escape prosecution for his knowledge and experience, his former comrades thinking he is too dangerous to let leave the country, but when he arrives in New York, he discovers no one treats him with any form of respect because of his accent and lack of credentials: while at home he was a respected agent, in this new place, Aleksei is a nobody and cannot find work, all of his achievements mean nothing to people that only see him for what he is, not who he is. So, Aleksei turns to crime to find a place for himself, unknowing becoming entangled in a series of experiments that prey on New York's most vulnerable populations to create super suited monsters like Scorpion and Vulture as pawns in a grand scheme by Justin Hammer.
@fangerboardin4741
@fangerboardin4741 Жыл бұрын
Gosh flowers for Algernon is such a tear jerker.
@innovator90
@innovator90 11 ай бұрын
I’ve always wondered how he lives with the suit permanently stuck on him. Rhino remains me of Mr. Freeze a lot.
@Rockgem12
@Rockgem12 Жыл бұрын
Well it’s not confirmed that rhino is dead in this insomniac the deleted room doesn’t really conform anything because it’s deleted ,so he could still be alive
@fynnthefox9078
@fynnthefox9078 Жыл бұрын
The portrayal of Rhino in my universe has him being mutated into a giant rhinoceros man, but slowly, his intelligence and humanity get stripped away. Eventually turning him into an animal and he's trying to get himself back to being human before that happens.
@takagalore
@takagalore Жыл бұрын
Soooo Killer Croc.
@youtubestudiosucks978
@youtubestudiosucks978 Жыл бұрын
No, rhino doesnt get beatup by a powerless furry ​@@takagalore
@fynnthefox9078
@fynnthefox9078 11 ай бұрын
​@@youtubestudiosucks978LMAO
@fynnthefox9078
@fynnthefox9078 11 ай бұрын
​​@@takagaloreCroc was born with his condition. Aleksei was just a hood who kept getting caught by Spider-Man so he hopped at the chance to get back without knowing the repercussions.
@takagalore
@takagalore 11 ай бұрын
@@fynnthefox9078 bro read the og comment
@TheDualHero15
@TheDualHero15 Жыл бұрын
There was a novelization of rhino and spiderman teaming up to fight a morbius like guy. They actually become sort of friends in the story and even unintentionally roasts Peter for not adding a pocket into spider suit. Rhino even meets mj
@andrenito2128
@andrenito2128 Жыл бұрын
What is the story name?
@dizzykwalla1198
@dizzykwalla1198 Жыл бұрын
Late 90's had some great Rhino stories I read when I collected comics. Even an extra at the end of a Spider-Man or Venom comic, can't remember, that had a happy ending for the character and fleshed him out in a touching and heart warming story. I have to go find the story can't remember the issue. But the character was always more interesting to me since then. Thanks for making a video on this topic. There was way more you could've added but this will do for now.
@PG2994
@PG2994 11 ай бұрын
To be fair to Spectacular, the show itself is literally unfinished. It's entirely possible they planned to go into Rhino's story more, like they started to with Sandman. *Unfortunately,* Disney canceled the show after its second season.
@attackofthecopyrightbots
@attackofthecopyrightbots 7 ай бұрын
Dude goes toe to toe with the hulk he deserves better
@jsmlxjs5268
@jsmlxjs5268 Жыл бұрын
In ultimate he's quite good
@quinncykaluzniak5429
@quinncykaluzniak5429 Жыл бұрын
he liked flyfishing, liked running through walls, honestly he just wanted out of the suit and took any opportunity to get it, and honestly, i would too
@CreamCakes420
@CreamCakes420 Жыл бұрын
3:09 construction
@arloracc
@arloracc 2 ай бұрын
Any job that requires heavy lifting honestly. Why buy a forklift if the big rhino man can lift stuff for you, and you don't have to pay as much?
@thisisbensilver
@thisisbensilver 11 ай бұрын
Dude you're so right. I don't think I even knew that he was stuck in the suit until I was an adult. The 90s cartoon had a few origin story episodes for villains but Rhino was just there
@strombreakr
@strombreakr 11 ай бұрын
I love Spectacular Spider-Man Rhino. There isn't really anything there in the show, but he has some great potential. He also doesn't have the IQ of a koala, so that's great.
@Axels100
@Axels100 Жыл бұрын
I just wish not all brutes were portrayed as meatheads, dumb yet dumbly strong, i want one which is strong AND smart.
@TheZeroNeonix
@TheZeroNeonix Жыл бұрын
I never really cared for Rhino, and part of that might have had to do with how he's been portrayed. The Insomniac games actually won me over, though. He's scary in those games, and while they don't give a lot of detail, they do hint that he has layers. They mention that his suit can't be removed, but don't get into how that happened. In Miles' spinoff game, the character returns, and he and Miles have a little banter while he's tearing through the mall. It's both funny and humanizes the character a little. But by Spider-Man 2, the third game in the series, I figure Insomniac must have been like, "He's already been prominently featured in two games, and we have lots of other villains to explore. Might as well have Kraven kill him." But it doesn't even happen on screen. The only indication we have that he's dead is some unused asset. So maybe he's not even dead?
@blackmagician7645
@blackmagician7645 11 ай бұрын
I think we all can agree. We'll rarely ever see any comic adaption done right in other forms of media.
@Yonatan_Max
@Yonatan_Max 11 ай бұрын
You showed the gameplay footage of the Rhino boss battle from Spider-man 2000. To the game's credit, it did show Scorpion grappling with what you discuss of bieng stuck in the suit. So he does go through the samethings he does...
@d-manthecaptain1382
@d-manthecaptain1382 Жыл бұрын
Wait, Miles be ballin'?
@charlesman8722
@charlesman8722 Жыл бұрын
He’s a villain, that rams his head into things. Yeah he’s going to only that in adaptations they’re called adaptations not “the history of the character portrayed accurately in 30 minutes”
@zackerhia914
@zackerhia914 11 ай бұрын
i seen Rhino as a big dumb brute in the games , and always seen him as "A big strong tanky guy" , and i always thought he diserved better. and I love the idea he HATES his life as Rhino , and wants to go back to being a normal guy , its tragic as hell .and i didn't even know about the smart rino arch , that would be a amazing idea for a Rino spin off show! forget the Kraven the hunter movie Lets get a Rino series , starting when he becomes rhino , and follow him in his every day life ...realising this life is hell and follow rhino in his daily life and eventually turning to crime to solve his problems losing his wife and kids in the prosses
@LC17253
@LC17253 Жыл бұрын
Dude rhino isnt dead that outside of context room was an unused part of the story and insomniac hasng conformied his death
@_INKY_THE_IDIOT
@_INKY_THE_IDIOT Жыл бұрын
Rhino isn’t confirmed to be dead in msm2 it’s just something from an unused level
@darthGOLDAR
@darthGOLDAR Жыл бұрын
I read flowers for the rhino Like a couple months right after reading Flowers for Algernon when it was in high school. It will always be One of my all time favorites!
@TwinkofArchie40
@TwinkofArchie40 Жыл бұрын
As someone who hasn't played Spider-Man 2 yet but has been spoiled of it in certain ways such as how Kraven dies, this is how I found out Rhino is most likely dead in it, although the location where his head is is out of bounds. If Kraven really did kill him, then I congratulate Venom immensely cuz Rhino was my favorite Insomniac villain besides Doc Ock and Martin Li.
@PapaCopperpot
@PapaCopperpot 11 ай бұрын
My dad REALLY likes rhinos, it was his nickname growing up and it went on to him collect rhino toys (the animal & marvel character) his collection is massive
@Crowelephant
@Crowelephant 11 ай бұрын
I respect what you did here. Writers put their hearts and souls into creating these characters, it's good to see a distorted or incomplete representation of someone's work be corrected. Like clearing someone's name.
@tempestflare4339
@tempestflare4339 11 ай бұрын
Dude in Spider-Man PS4 and Miles Morales this is actually a thing that they kind of focus on for rhino sure he is still a villain but he's honestly trying to get out of the suit he just wants to fish on the Volga!
@theonetruefusion8533
@theonetruefusion8533 Жыл бұрын
"he's a monstah" that one pronunciation won me over, I subscribed over that
@ammaralrai9955
@ammaralrai9955 Жыл бұрын
If spectacular Spider-Man kept going, they could’ve covered the idea of the rhino regretting his decision.
@lewisholiman9237
@lewisholiman9237 Жыл бұрын
Hot take to anyone who hasn’t seen this video, but I think Rhino has potential to be the main antagonist of a Spider-Man film if given this much depth.
@uncannydcmarvelous5732
@uncannydcmarvelous5732 Жыл бұрын
And yet Sony is using him as a villain for Kraven to fight in his solo movie.
@snowboundwhale6860
@snowboundwhale6860 11 ай бұрын
This feels like a screentime issue. The "Big dumb brute" characterisation seems like an unavoidable introduction when they first show up, but most of this depth that doesn't get explored really needs more time to breathe than what Rhino's often given to work with, they seem to skip over him a lot in favour of putting other villains in the spotlight for arcs.
@chanyy6838
@chanyy6838 Жыл бұрын
Me and the boys watching one of us get cancelled
@thekilgrave
@thekilgrave Жыл бұрын
8:18 I would love a vdeo on Rhino and Miles' frenemy relationship dynamic
@Tom11025
@Tom11025 Жыл бұрын
I always used to view rhino as a guy who is uncomfortable in his suit and wishes to be free from his suit and have a normal life. And i always wished they would do that in an adaptation. I feel like the kraven movie is still not going to do him justice
@takagalore
@takagalore Жыл бұрын
8:22 wdym nope? this isn’t canon. i’m also pretty sure they talk about rhino wanting out of suit more than one time- he even got manipulated by roxxon into thinking that if he got rid of spider-man they would help him get out of the suit. so it’s not like that him being just a big brute is all there is to his character.
@Dyvon.dynamo
@Dyvon.dynamo 11 ай бұрын
You love Flowers for Algernon, then you'll love the The Smell of Success episode from Rugrats. One of my faves growing up. Great vid !
@spidermania
@spidermania 11 ай бұрын
I’ll have to check it out thanks for the recommendation. I loved rugrats when I was younger
@BX-advocate
@BX-advocate 11 ай бұрын
Wow very enlightening. I gotta say that the second rhino story sounds interesting, it could almost be interpreted as his past coming back to haunt him. Like the suit represents an addiction or anger itself and so when someone else comes to challenge him and he finally puts the suit back on it's a relapse.
@gameyfirebro9645
@gameyfirebro9645 11 ай бұрын
Spectacular at least briefly touches on Rhino's plight of being stuck in the suit a couple times.
@kingghidorable931
@kingghidorable931 11 ай бұрын
Rhino isn’t dead in spider-man 2 that mounted head was cut from the game, and there aren’t any records of him being killed
@Jellybob69
@Jellybob69 Жыл бұрын
Spectacular Rhino was perfect.
@Wolfbane1677
@Wolfbane1677 Жыл бұрын
Didn't insomniac spiderman have a similar story for Rino? I mean Octavius was working on an acid to free Runi from his suit it's the reason Rino worked for Octavius. Hell if I remember some of the thug conversation in Spiderman and Miles Morales have them talking about how the suit brings Alexi pain. So in truth insomniac had a story for Rino but they couldn't push it far because they wanted other stories to tell. Sure they could have done a DLC side quest to explain Rino further but I think Insomniac did what they could with Rino.
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