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[@lucioiv127]

I love how far Ethan has come along with knowing comic continuity and character profiles. He really gets the characters, even if he thinks they're problematic maniacs lol

[@accidentalmadness1708]

And then there’s Ben

[@lukang8671]

@@accidentalmadness1708 Ben has come a long way as well; I just like how Ethan dresses down comic characters in a way that long-time comic fans can agree the characters would deserve if people in the comic world stopped and thought about it for too long lol. They both do actually lol. Then hearing Sal explain the madness by distilling decades of comic continuity in moments ; starting with a big sigh 😁😂😂

[@pickedceasar1216]

@@lukang8671 as the Sal of my group that sigh is integral to explaining anything to do with comics 😂

[@rolo3468]

"That's hilarious!" - Ben "That's messed up.." - Ethan

[@tjjordan4207]

Everyone else: “Yes”

[@matthewnash8556]

That millennial tangent was great! Keep killing it guys!

[@elliottroses]

I bought this in Hawaii when I was seven. It blew my adolescent mind. Also, brown and tan costume Wolverine is the best. The artwork is also phenomenal

[@sinjinbaker6031]

I agree, the whole story is amazing!

[@deltaprime3509]

I like how much Spider-Man and Wolverine hate each other but they still respect each other

[@1337snake888]

This comic is timeless. One of the best one-shots ever

[@BrightBlue925]

2:35-3:40 Your improv sketches as the characters always make me crack up

[@rlccomics2614]

i love the new intro, very well edited!!

[@fun2building]

Alternative title for this episode: "Spider-Man?? More like Murder-Man!"

[@Geoemophobic]

Well spider-man is almost as strong as hulk and he could rip off thanos face using only his hand

[@Gundam_JAY]

@@Geoemophobic oh yeah I remember that

[@walterszewczyk9024]

Spiderman was punching hard enough to smash trucks in this issue. Lol 😂 😅.

[@sarahgroves6318]

James Owlsley is a pen name of Christopher Priest! I'm sure you might get to something else hes done!

[@cullenstalin]

Scrolled down to see if anyone else said this!

[@kaiwilliams141]

You're right!

[@batmanhicks93]

This just blew my goddamn mind.

[@hamzadawud]

I know I'm three years late, but "Owsley" was actually his real name before he changed it to Priest.

[@antgto]

Having never read this, I had no idea that Assassin Spider-Man What If was an alternate continuation of this.

[@michaelmyers4943]

That introooo. In my opinion, all that's missing is a slightly flashier font to give it that POP (😏)

[@marknutt4398]

3:30 Respect should be Eaaarrrned *BRAAAUH* [SNKKT] (Screams; ohhhmygaawd.) - ohhhhhhhhh the gold , you guys are my family now....FOREVER.

[@Evyscreations]

My God there are some huge ramifications that occur in random comics

[@Rairiky]

I can't get sometimes how a process this long and messy as any comic character has can result in a life,with ups and downs,poverty and wealth,happiness and misery,a normal number of mates and dates,it's astonishing and super fun to think about how,when you get a character and you are careful you can do a kind of storytelling that's not possible any other way

[@Darkgreenfangirl]

I had no idea this story existed, and I really mad no one told me about until now. I live for noir story telling like this, so thank you for showing/telling me this story.

[@eqs1782]

"I don't have health insurance!" cracked me up so badly

[@stuffstuff8942]

They mentioned this incident in the current Chip Zdarsky’s Daredevil run

[@jacob_ian_decoursey_the_author]

Burgundy and dark yellow Vs Navy and bright yellow Pick your side.

[@FatSnorlax]

Jacob DeCoursey Burgundy

[@daffawaffa]

Navy Wolverine forever 😤

[@shuwarurusubs]

Watching the intro after the Christopher Priest interview is so funny

[@the-nothingman]

Fun fact the editor that made the incredible uncomfortable demand for the Hobgoblin identity in the story at 25:24, is also the writer of this book who is also Christopher Priest (of Black Panther and Deathstroke fame), he talks about the events surrounding all this here: lamerciepark.com/legacy/comics/spidey.html

[@loganshirley9058]

More like Dead Leeds

[@jacob_ian_decoursey_the_author]

Ayo!

[@BurnedChiliMan]

I remember reading this as a kid and just being absolutely devastated when Peter accidentally killed her at the end!

[@willmartinez1606]

Every week I await one piece, my dad and moms medical updates and back issues. New Jersey represents. Great episode.

[@henryblack1925]

Sal I NEED a complete and super long saga of the Hobgoblin!!

[@Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache]

"..................That was NOTHING like EuroTrip!"

[@aegis9109]

Just put this video up for some background noise but I ended up really focused on this story. Sal has an amazing way to portray a story. Amazing. 🍿

[@GentlemanGL]

If she got punched by spidey with that much force her face would not be in a well enough condition to have that sweet farewell. It would’ve caved in and he wouldn’t have to explain to anyone that she’s dead now.

[@Jhakson]

I loved this comic, thank you so much for covering it. You should do more of the Spidey/Wolvie crossovers, those two run the complete spectrum of quality.

[@BrightBlue925]

42:52-43:08 Ben is a blessing and Ethan's cough is a mood.

[@Rairiky]

Both the ep and the story were phenomenal,well done guys loved it! Now about the comic: this is shocking as all hell,I'd never heard either about this story or Pete's trauma out of this and I couldn't have loved it more,the art is incredible,you feel the mix of very passionate people in a very cold,hopeless world, and while dark, it doesn't feel edgy for the sake of it as some noir comic characters tend to(looking at you bats),it's a nice,sweet dude that's learning how to deal with a very low point in his life and new way of looking at the world,really really loved it,I hope some day can buy it!

[@AnarchicArachnid]

My favorite version of Peter, Spider-assassin, came out of this story's what if.

[@mo_4484]

I love when Sal goes on his rants lol

[@Pr0cr4stinat0r]

32:00 Fun fact: "Die Spinne" (the spider) was the original German name for Spider-Man until the early seventies. The book and the character were just called "the spider" :D After that it changed to Spider-Man tho.

[@hazelcoleman6744]

You've done it again, gang. I've purchased a book I never thought I'd be interested in reading. Great episode as always 👌

[@WhelmedButReady]

There's something about seeing panels of Spider-Man utterly roasting the X-Men whilst kicking there asses with ease that gives me utter joy as a Spidey fan

[@TommyBaysMusic]

This is freaking awesome! I love these fun little crossovers!

[@Benm701]

Respect should be earned bruh!

[@Grievousish]

I think this book needs more Czar and the time bat

[@Skyhunter826]

Woohoo another back issues! I watch every week since I discovered comic pop, now I watch you guys more then comicstorian

[@chisasa9509]

Comic Pop So good

[@christopherpoff4117]

Alright, the idea of Spider-Man going all "OK boomer" on Wolverine is hilarious.

[@benjaminkim331]

James Owsley aka Christopher Priest. He's written stuff like Batman but more notable for Black Panther and currently writing the Deathstroke series in DC's Rebirth era.

[@treyurbach2550]

I would recommend getting a physical copy of this story from The Amazing Spider-Man epic collection vol 17 which collects several Spider-Man stories from the mid-80s including this story, an issue of Spider-Man which serves as an aftermath where Spider-Man and Wolverine talk and bond afterwords, the wedding of Spider-Man, and Kraven’s Last Hunt.

[@regularguy5403]

ComicPOP made start loving 80s comics and this book just reassure it for me.

[@hapokas112]

Another awesome episode of Back Issues!

[@BrightBlue925]

Still slowly going through this, bit through bit between studying. Should mention that I LOVE Sal's shirt so much. I need it. Xavier Institute ftw.

[@jolanhildebrandt4414]

It's a classic battle, and lead to many a hilarious encounter between the two, before they made nice

[@TheMelMan]

NICE! That brown Wolverine suit reminds me of my childhood.

[@caseydavis4890]

I've been wondering about this story💜💜💜💜

[@walterszewczyk9024]

Marvel-Team Up #117 was to me my personal favorite in '82. I totally dug that issue, really cool 😎, Spidey & Wolvie go up against Professor Power & his killer robots & androids, totally dope as well, though totally stoked for this book to come out that time, so happy when finally got it. Love both of course now & the Marvel Comics Presents storyline drawn by Erik Larsen, all cool comics. 😅😂.

[@badboi6247]

My dad had this book when he was a kid. When he gave his comics to me I didn’t get the plot of this book but you made me want to read this book again. Also there will no marvel film like this unless it’s a lesser known character.

[@Insane-Howl-Cowl]

To this DAY I can't look at the AMS #238 without thinking the Hobgoblin has a Jester's cap. I've thought that since I first read it when it came out and cannot shake that feeling.

[@prestonyates8003]

This video was over 2 years ago? Man, I feel like I saw you upload this one a few months ago.

[@brucewayne1555]

Love the new addition to the intro. Looks great. Keep up the great content Sal. Ethan Ben and Tiffany

[@MugenNiFukuzatsuna]

His strength..! His speed!.. Unbelievable! He is AWESOME!

[@TevyaSmolka]

Yay this story sounds tons of fun

[@sixdollarman1362]

This was the first comic I had my fingerprints ruin the cover to. Kind of a shame because it was more expensive than a standard comic. Also, the pages were printed on Baxter paper, so it's presentation was better than your regular comic of the day.

[@TheFashionAssasin]

Have you guys considered doing one on NIGHTWING-A Knight in Bludhaven? It seems like..that era..was the perfect happy medium between Batman and Spiderman. Another great show as always.

[@ToonGal12]

At 16:20, my only thought was, "JADOO!" *snap*

[@gregtin87]

Hey can you guys do the what if story spin off of this story where peter and black widow get together after him amd logan decide to stay in europe to become super spies?

[@1337snake888]

late reply, but there's a good the bad and the ugly episode where they do that issue!

[@DiegoAlvarezBeltran1993.]

I love moments like this for Spider-Man, where he's forced to understand wherever he's absolutely over his head -- when he's just like " I dunno what I'm doing, I got these powers just by sheer coincidence! What the fuck am I doing, how am I still alive?!" Superheroes having a come to Jesus moment is so interesting.

[@Aaron-zt5ee]

I never thought that moment was earned here, though. There was a scene where he freaks out because some dudes with guns show up as if he doesn’t beat up dudes with guns everyday.

[@DiegoAlvarezBeltran1993.]

@@Aaron-zt5ee I'm sure the possibility of being shot goes through his mind every time he does. He's only alive because the funny thing in his head goes 'brrrr'. I imagine if he didn't have that, he would have been dead years ago.

[@Aaron-zt5ee]

@@DiegoAlvarezBeltran1993. Sure, he's not bulletproof but in the story, he has an inner monologue that reads something like "These guys are killers. I'm in over my head" which is silly because he's faced killers with guns before.

[@joshuanelson6795]

Sal, I'd love it if you guys did an extra-long Hobgoblin episode.

[@insomnomnomnia]

Ive gotta hunt this down along with perceptions 1-5 and the what if story.

[@edwardosquidwardo660]

Loving the intro, very nice 👍

[@citizensupreme4705]

Oh sweet Hobgoblin saga coming soon!😋Perhaps a long episode!?🥳

[@wondercol6702]

is it possible for a Conan back issues ?

[@comicpop]

Very

[@michaeldickens1019]

Has someone ever noticed that ben looks like the supergirl version of lex luthor

[@dangriffin5913]

I love this book.

[@BLACKDOJAH789]

Actually my 2nd Graphic Novel! It was great just nothing really interesting happens after they fought however that Hobgoblin part went over my head thou (thanks) and now i regret not reading more Spidey.

[@FatSnorlax]

First Spider-Man comic I ever read. Great stuff guys :)

[@cjerowe]

It's the Law of Conservation of Wolverine. The more Wolverines you have in your book, the less effective each Wolverine will be. It's PHYSICS!

[@kurtoogle4576]

Wow! I didn't know about this! Thank you!

[@JoshMunroe]

An event so big it was portrayed as a "Wolverine vs." card in the 1994 Fleer X-Men set. That's my only knowledge of this event until I watched this video.

[@flexingncollecting1675]

Thank for making my night

[@lawrenceperry957]

Imagine this with Tom Holland.

[@NewPhoneWhoThis52]

The body question is who has the bigger body count. Spider Man or Wolverine?

[@Gameboy-tt2ru]

Spider-Man obviously

[@citizensupreme4705]

NEW INTRO!🥳🤩

[@faxedwang]

this would be a sick movie

[@ghoulking7616]

5 whole years of back issues

[@robthedude4861]

As much as I love Spidey and Wolvie, Spiderman will win every time

[@tomprice2587]

This is one of the first comics I read. I was way too young to understand this as well.

[@randybesse7631]

The New intro is great!

[@chojikiba]

You need to do a Spidey Issue like for Batman

[@kangofkek8079]

I would love an extended hobgoblin episode

[@Martendo-ux4fw]

Correct me if I’m wrong, but Ned Leeds wasn’t actually the Hobgoblin; he was just set up by Roderick Kingsley.

[@comicpop]

Yes, we were trying to bury the lead a little bit so we didn't ruin a fun comic for everyone.

[@Martendo-ux4fw]

Thanks for the clarification, sorry if I spoiled anything that was being setup for a future episode. I am honored to just have had a response!

[@comicpop]

@@Martendo-ux4fw No trouble! Glad you're excited for it!

[@MrAlvaroferreyra]

If anybody wants this book, you can pick up kraven last hunt epic collection. It's in there. Save a few bucks ha

[@yenachomps4660]

I think I really dislike this book because Wolverine basically walks away with no consequence despite clearly being very much in the wrong almost through the entire book while simultaneously pushing all of the emotional burden on to Spiderman who was attempting to stop him from being a psycho knife murder.

[@zachpeterson8341]

Great episode. You guys should do the manga Berserk. The first of its deluxe edition hardcovers are out. Much like this story it is full of sharp objects and death.

[@ultimate_lance]

this is the funniest one so far

[@timshady237]

That new intro graphic is too sexy lol

[@WhelmedButReady]

I like the new opening graphic

[@TheGeekReviews]

can someone tell me what issue spidey reflected on the people who died on his watch? id really like to look that over

[@comicpop]

Amazing Spider-Man #655

[@TheGeekReviews]

@@comicpop oooooh! I yave that one!

[@ghostwarrior3878]

Im definitely interested in getting a copy of this.

[@BrightBlue925]

HELL YEAH I LOVE THIS STORY

[@Sicod79]

Stay out of graveyards Spidey.

[@sharkfinbite]

I never liked Wolverine's yellow and brown color scheme. It only works for sabertooth. Logan is in his best when wearing black and yellow or blue and yellow.

[@TheTheDontae]

Dude I read the what if book of this story first!

[@1bruceeric]

Ethan on point this video

[@mannygonzalez8303]

Do something on the first Hobgoblin stories!!!

[@antgto]

Spidey didn't like Cobr...I mean "Python"? Just lost some points Parker.

[@TheSuperNaruto96]

Its always bizarre to me that wolvering and x 23 were never teamed up. Shes the ultimate young female sidekick, and it seems really irresponsible that he knows about a little girl who is a clone of him and probably went through some of the same trauma that Weapon X put him through and would more than likely would fly into a berserker rage and kill people like him, but decides "nah, shes fine on her own".

[@skarhead7597]

They were on the same team in X Force