TATI WESTBROOK EXPOSES JAMES CHARLES AND JEFFREE STAR ... the truth about their friendship

[@fairypjm3603]

no way we’re still getting dramageddon updates in the year 2024

[@jesuusch]

Truly the drama that will never end. Even the original dramageddon hasn’t been going on this long

[@melanieberes3460]

was genuinely wondering why youtube recommended such an old video, then seeing it posted 59 minutes ago 😂😭

[@ClaudiaL23]

I thought I was tripping for a second😅

[@itsdra13]

I'm living for it 😂

[@riscoronis]

Can’t wait to revisit it in 4 years again 😂😂

[@Rkhfb]

Saw this notification and thought I was transported back to 2020 😂

[@sar2963]

Girl that was 2019, 5 years ago ~ almost 6

[@whocut333]

HEAVY war flashbacks to 2019

[@anavictoria7688]

😭😭😭😂😂😂

[@NidaPatrail]

Sameeee lmaooo

[@Rkhfb]

@@sar2963 wait what???? Am I THAT OLD??!! 😭

[@yanacampbell]

With Nick looking the way he does and this showing up on my feed, I feel like we're glitching in timelines or something 😂😭

[@KlaraBreznik-jm9pj]

I was thinking the same :)

[@celinay]

Nikocado and tati being spill sesh topics this week is giving 2018-2019 core mom come pick me up I'm scared

[@Lizzie__Lizzz]

Honey I’ll be there to pick you up out front in 5 minutes. Send me your location and don’t move x

[@waxtopia]

Bye Sister is still extremely iconic because James truly is a creep, she clocked it early and no one took it seriously because the situation was over gummies 😫

[@fayis4everlove]

James isba creep but he was never really targeting straight men Tati was just being homophobic. Two can be true at the same time.

[@waxtopia]

@@fayis4everlove he admitted to loving straight men, and he admitted to grooming straight or questioning teenage boys.. but if you wanna d!e on the hill of defending a p3dophile… that’s your prerogative 🙃

[@asmrtpop2676]

@@fayis4everloveshe was actually being biphobic. her assumptions were always that men are straight or gay and nothing more. which was homophobic and then some, biphobic.

[@alisha5213]

⁠@@fayis4everloveyes he did ???? Just type it into Google

[@Fouloulle]

She had nothing against him either ! Hehit on an adult straight man which is legal. You can hit on everybody who's an adult. You must stop though if they tell you no. There's no such a thing as "coercing somone into thinking they're gay" unless they're minors or you're a therapist !

[@Natsudragneel_28]

Craziest thing is she was right about the creep allegations 😂

[@SeanShimamoto]

I think the craziest thing is that she was grooming Flames Charles and is now blaming the victim…he was 17, she was the adult. Tati WestGroom always gave me bad vibes.

[@yarlenysequirindongo9372]

@@SeanShimamotoIm sorry do you KNOW what grooming is?!?! This word is getting tossed around more than any sportsball. The grooming you are referring to is the action of attempting to form a relationship with a child or young person, with the intention of sexually assaulting them or inducing them to commit an illegal act such as selling drugs or joining a terrorist organization. She was his mentor as he was coming up in the beauty industry. She wasn’t trying to have sex with him. WTF?

[@SeanShimamoto]

@@yarlenysequirindongo9372 ¹ Get off your high horse and don’t tell me what I am or am not trying to say. ² Grooming is defined as, “the practice of preparing or training someone for a particular purpose or activity.” ³ What I, MYSELF, was trying to say, was that Tati was grooming James Charles to be her friend and confidant ‘cause she knew that she could leech off of his fame and popularity. ⁴ Where TF did I say anything about them having sex?!? You had the option to ask me what I meant…but instead you chose to be a know-it-all and act a fool. PS - You’re a mother and acting like this?!? 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@by_the_garden5482]

@@yarlenysequirindongo9372completely agree, but there are some nuances too, some people are groomed by getting exposed to sexually explicit behavior despite the groomer not intending to have sex with them. I agree with you though, Tati didn’t do this. Not every adult/young person relationship is grooming.

[@SeanShimamoto]

@@yarlenysequirindongo9372 ¹ Get off your high horse and don’t tell me what I am talking about it. ² Grooming is also defined as the practice of preparing or training someone for a particular purpose or activity. ³ What I AM talking about, is Tati grooming James into being someone that she could leech off of and benefit from the fact that he had such a massive following at the time. ⁴ Instead of being a know-it-all, you could’ve simply asked me what I meant, and I would explained myself, but you chose to act a fool instead. I’m sorry that you’re unaware that words have multiple definitions, but hopefully now you know so you won’t make a fool of yourself on your high horse again.

[@LunarAngel]

The fact that almost all of us thought we’d collectively traveled back in time to 2018/2019 is HILARIOUS

[@kpotatov]

Why are people mentioning it like Tati was the person that brought the topic up when Michelle was the person who questioned her about it...?

[@anahilissetperez]

She could have easily not answered 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@paigeharris9909]

@@kpotatov Right.

[@CrystalTW]

Please. I’m sure Tati discussed with Michelle the topics she wanted to go over during the podcast.

[@paigeharris9909]

@@CrystalTW Right because the guest's decide the topics....

[@xthetic.studios]

@@paigeharris9909most podcasts / interviews are vetted and guests can request for certain questions to be asked

[@catbuthuman]

The internet was so strange this past week. Lots of unexpected things happened.

[@suan333]

Let's be honest, KZbin was "mad" with her because James was making them a lot of money. The same way SnipperWold of whatever her name is still has a platform.

[@christydadamo7699]

Yep, exactly this. Same reason that Mr. Beast will never be deplatformed.

[@fayis4everlove]

You're hilarious, KZbin doesn't care about James or Mr.Beast they can literally make a new Mr. beast/ James anytime they want. They aren't cancelled because that's not how it works in real life. Touch some grass 😭 if there is no case KZbin can't do anything about it.

[@suan333]

maybe you should be the one to touch some grass, because i think you don't understand what we all were talking about here. And they would be properly cancelled/without a platform if YT didn't look for their monetary gains. Of course they don't give a f about them as people (being them good or bad people), they are just numbers and they make YT a lot.@@fayis4everlove

[@asmrtpop2676]

@@fayis4everloveyou’re an idiot. youtube can do whatever they want at any time because they literally own the platform 😂

[@AshleeTuck]

@@fayis4everlove🥱

[@jarodhiggs]

5 years of drama over vitamins 😭

[@violetblossom7]

1:54 even if James Charles was the one pursuing the relationship, it’s up to *her* as the adult in the relationship to establish boundaries tf😭 edit: didn’t even think I’d have to say this but here we are lmao, ofc I’m not defending pdf James Charles but I don’t think Tati is the innocent in this at all, she’s a influencer after all. 😌 She only felt the need to “warn” everyone once James collaborated with a business competing with hers. I don’t believe she made that video in good faith for a second, she was hurt by what James did and retaliated, that’s all.

[@ReplayandHate]

100%! Exactly my thoughts!

[@SeanShimamoto]

AMEN! This is giving “blame the victim” vibes! Which gives me the ick ‘cause I don’t like defending Flames Charles…as a gay man, he really bothers me ‘cause he creeps on straight guys…but I gotta keep the same energy when an adult is blaming the minor, and that’s what Tati WestGroom is doing.

[@suan333]

Calling Tati a groomer is mental. The one sexually preying on minors is James. But sure, she's the Groomer.

[@bloomtay]

Shows how little growing she’s done. Has a victim complex

[@derrickjuinor]

She does know she can leave him tho when she decides to

[@TheRibottoStudios]

This was so huge that they changed quite a bit about KZbin after. Including the live and specific sub counter.

[@windstillrises]

It's weird she keeps on emphasising that it was always someone else is always responsible for everything that happened

[@hannahwalmer1124]

I caught that too. “He was the one pursuing the relationship” “Powerful people in my ear” “Lots of people have it wrong” Where the f*** is the accountability?

[@fouraline]

EXACTLY. I can’t stand her lol

[@ron05aa]

Because it is... 🙄

[@tyra8805]

@@ron05aa lol was she not the adult?Does she not have a backbone? Why is she blaming everyone else for being friends with these toxic people…

[@BrookeKatherine.]

Honestly not really, that’s quite par for the course for her lol.

[@TheBeccaDawnx]

IMO it doesn't matter who pursued the relationship. It falls on the older, more mature person to set and establish boundaries. If a younger girl is persuing an older man and he even has a friendship with said girl, he would be looked down upon. I don't necessarily care if they were friends or not, but don't use "he pursued me" as an excuse. that's weird.

[@SABRINALUTION]

"he was pursuing me" right. the teenage boy in the situation. you were the adult.

[@melissaheil5178]

She claims that Jeffree used her but she never acknowledges that the allegations both of them made turned out to be true. So maybe he did, but I'm glad someone told us. Also her admitting that she dropped James to save her own skin instead of out of moral obligation like she claimed in the beginning is incredibly telling. Don't get me wrong, I love Tati, but she doesn't seem to be taking any accountability for her own actions. People can only use you if you let them.

[@jo-annmahaka]

Something that deeply bothers me is that she went on and disregarded her friendship with Jackie Aina/Asamoah for Jefree Star. Her apology whilst blaming Jefree Star for everything was inauthentic because Noone forced you to go & befriend someone who has called your friend a gorilla, rat and said they would throw bleach at a person of colour. She wanted to be a savior, and I think she didn't care about who it hurt as long as she looked like a good person. The reason why she was so moved by the amount of voices to the point of not privately ending the relationships that bothered her was because she wanted to be seen in a great light above those who were accused.

[@melissaheil5178]

@@jo-annmahaka I absolutely agree, unfortunately it's not just Tati. There are way too many creators that have not been kind to Jackie over the years and it's pitiful behavior. She deserves better.

[@sallyoconnor9975]

Nah but just because Shane and Jeffreys allegations turned out to be true, doesn't mean that they're innocent.

[@melissaheil5178]

@@sallyoconnor9975 no, definitely not. That's not what I said.

[@loveRCDtv]

Jeffree and Shane's allegations weren't true though? It's so annoying that everyone mixes up the issues addressed during Bye Sister with James later issues. Because they didn't touch on anything minor related. - Jeffree made claims involving James misconduct with Nathan/Zachary but yet he never gave evidence. Why? Because it doesn't exist, since it never happened... - Jeffree falsified key information and lied over things such as his text to James stating he doesn't know what's going on, but yet Tati here debunks that claim. As well as speaking for Sam The Waiter by trying to spin the narrative that James trapped him in his hotel, or anything involving Grayson and the voice memo etc... - Shane never spoke publicly and anything he said behind the scenes was regurgitated from Jeffree. Which was that James was inappropriate towards Straight Men (adults) and bad mouthing all his friends. Overall let's not give credit to Shane or Jeffree please. Shane use to have really young minors (like 12) that were his fans commit sexual acts on Tiny Chat. That he himself exposed in his now deleted vlogs. He also regularly had his child actors conduct very perverted acts that I would say was basically soft core CP. Jeffree also has visual evidence of him sexually assaulting straight men that he has scrubbed from the internet due to his wealth and power. He was also aware of his friends back in Myspace/Warp Tour days conducting sexual acts on minors but kept it hush hush. By giving these people credit, you open the door for them to become relevant again and continue harm!!

[@erika2m16]

Michelle Phan was THE og makeup youtuber and she hasn't aged a day. She found a Ring of Power

[@wenddukie]

Wasn't she on a cult or something?

[@ocean440]

she is in cult bruhhhh

[@jeralinsunflower7300]

I love her!

[@asmrtpop2676]

bruh she’s IN A FREAKING CULT 💀

[@Dave102693]

@@asmrtpop2676what’s the cult’s name?

[@joceyno]

This tells you how crazy the last ten years have been. I forgot about ‘Bye, Sister’. This seems like eons ago.

[@redforman6093]

Bye sister was five years ago not ten

[@tburrrg2502]

@@redforman6093five years is still a long time! I was twenty five!! A totally different person. I’m 30 now, grown and changed. The fact that she’s still talking about this is crazy

[@joceyno]

@@redforman6093 I understand that. But there has been a lot of mayhem & foolishness that has happened in the last ten years, let alone the last ten months. Something happened five years ago, seems like it was 15 years ago. With social media, and the 24 hour news cycle, we are inundated with information and breaking news - it’s hard to keep track. That’s all I’m saying.

[@redforman6093]

@@tburrrg2502 100%, I have to think she’s doing it to stay relevant idk

[@ashleyjli]

No but she was still the adult in the friendship ... even if he pursued her, she still was responsible for setting boundaries

[@duckimpala]

i don’t buy her narrative at all, simply due to the fact that she CHOSE james to do her wedding makeup. like, if the friendship was really one sided, you would think she would want to pick someone else lol

[@Linnelly]

This!

[@Cynthiabecker24]

Just switch the genders and the public would NEVER. Tati stop.

[@jules5006]

@@duckimpalalike even herself? Girl SLAYS at makeup, she did not have to pick him

[@bridgettemacdonald3023]

had to double check when this video was posted, thought i time travelled 😂

[@KayD828]

Taking 0 accountability for the drama you started and still trying to put blame on others is absolutely insane. She was a full grown adult and knew the precautions of her actions

[@redforman6093]

1000000% 👏👏👏👏

[@tburrrg2502]

She needs to just tell people “we are moving on I’m done talking about this” when asked about it. The fact that she still has no accountability and keeps on beating the dead horse that she was a victim is crazy to me. I was in my early twenties when this drama went down. I’m thirty now! Time for her to move on lol we all have!

[@Lovestospooge-queef]

😂😂 yeah ok, let’s not deflect from James Charles being a fu**ing pedo.

[@QueenGoldnGreen]

Right?? Omg I feel like I’m taking crazy pills! This whole things is so gross.

[@DericJames]

Omg is this the birthday dinner lady?!?

[@hannahwalmer1124]

Yes

[@jules5006]

☠️☠️☠️not referring to her as “the birthday dinner lady” HAHA I needed a laugh so thank you

[@mandyylolo]

“He was perusing me”….ummm you’re the adult Tati….yikes

[@SkyStrife92]

Yer that was very strange like Tati he was 17

[@cuixinshi]

imagine being over 40 and doesnt know how to set boundaries

[@anasdomain9994]

Literally flip it over and have a man saying that to a teenage girl it’s gross af

[@fantasea114]

She doesn't celebrate her birthday because a teenager "ruined" her birthday over 5 years ago? 🙄 she's such a child

[@sheylaalers4168]

She needs therapy 😨

[@jules5006]

I mean I wouldn’t call her a child, children atleast celebrate their birthdays yearly☠️

[@cw1041]

She needs sympathy so she's pouting

[@sashalove83]

Just like she couldn't watch her wedding video because he was in it,& then turn around made up with him & the released "Breaking my sile8"🙄

[@WisdomAziz]

@spillsesh why haven’t you covered the ice spice and cleotrapa drama???? It’s literally the biggest thing right now

[@DiegoMorillo-cn5th]

its been 4-5 years and this thing its going and going

[@tburrrg2502]

She will still be talking about this in the nursing home

[@sweetlikechocolate909]

😂😂😂 not the nursing home ​@@tburrrg2502

[@Mordeomaneater]

Currently sick right now but I needed this throwback😂

[@SlurpingRoach]

This interview is actually insane and has so many shocking things she talks about having experienced, and for this to be the summary out of it for you is kind of sad...

[@gaabbster]

Agreed. She mentions that she never said the JC allegations were false and she talks about OD and more delicate subjects that should be highlighted to bring awareness...

[@ryanpriye1402]

What else would a drama channel cover? You’re looking for that information in the wrong place.

[@sashalove83]

​@@gaabbsterBut she still made up with him after releasing the allegations.

[@gaabbster]

@@sashalove83 oh I'm not defending her. Cuz you're right and it seems like everyone knows those allegations exist and they turn a blind eye

[@sashalove83]

@gaabbster right. Maybe if people would have really been concerned about it, maybe there wouldn't actually be real victims now. Their pain could have been avoided.

[@brylboy22]

She looks STUNNING ❤❤❤. So happy to see she is doing well

[@SAVAGELIVEMEDIA]

Yes. I feel she was too old to be hanging with that kid she didn’t know.

[@forevercandace714]

Beyond Wild, but I've been waiting for your rundown as I already lived through the drama originally 5 years ago! 😂

[@Kelly-mi1yz]

“Haven’t talked about her in like a couple years” that’s exactly why she is talking about this

[@parmiduh]

everyone needs to remember that all of this started cuz tati was upset over some stupid gummies💀💀💀💀

[@patylovesdiggnation]

I already watched and seen all of this but I have to watch when Spill Sesh covers what I already know/seen. She’s my comfort tea channel. ❤

[@waxtopia]

Part of me genuinely can’t believe it’s been 5 years since all of this, I remember it all like it was last week😂 Shane going live while Tatis new video popped up was crazy, I was IN the live 🤣 I still have a conspiracy palette that was barely used - I only bought it because part of me knew it would be an iconic item. But now it’s iconic for all the drama that came with it, not for how good it was LOL

[@reinalooper3314]

YAAAASSSS TATI BEAUTY!!! That was the best palette ever that u bought 2 of them before it was discontinued 🥹

[@Inverse1789]

Love how we got all of these Tati haters in the comments meanwhile JS is irrelevant now and JC was in fact a creep. And Tati is just quietly making her way again ❤

[@SkyStrife92]

I don’t hate Tati but she defo could’ve taken more responsibility especially with having a friendship with a 17 year old.

[@sashalove83]

but he wasn't a creep based on the allegations that Tati stated the problem. If the drama channels hadn't done a rewatch off drama Dramageddon she would still be irrelevant too.

[@skeletonizer9529]

She said so many annoying, weird things in this podcast (which is to be expected knwoing her and Michelle Phan) but the craziest part is her using this to re-distance herself from James after she used the "breaking my silence" video to make it seem like her and James were besties again

[@BR-nv8bw]

Since you mentioned Michelle Phan shouldn’t we be talking more about the rumors she’s in a cult? Frankly not many have dived into this and if it’s true, shouldn’t it be talked about more? Cults of any kind are dangerous and the few who mentioned it are confused and worried

[@redforman6093]

Ooooo now this sounds interesting, hopefully she does a deep dive into it rather than focusing on the older drama nobody cares about lol

[@StealthBirmingham]

She is going to discuss her on her podcast.

[@ryanpriye1402]

Imagine if it was a 37 year old man who said that they only became “friends” with a 17 year old girl because it was her that was perusing him. How would the public react to that?

[@illogical001]

If the girl was a butch lesbian, probably the same?? 🤣 since they’re both in the same career “working together” ?? Like if millie bb would spend time with her adult co stars.

[@misschokesondique_yt]

So fast girl!!! Been waiting for you to talk about this!!!!

[@forevercandace714]

KZbin had something to say to Tati but yet Lillie Jean can run amok....

[@tburrrg2502]

this is so true. KZbin lets them take advantage of copyright law and yet look at dramagate

[@Dogs5000]

Who

[@ShelleyFrank-qh5or]

You are incredible, keep making content!

[@BessLillian]

Saw this twice and it still hits!

[@brittanyparistx]

“They pursued me….” is kind of a classic defense against those type of relationships. Whether true or not, it’s irrelevant.

[@sebastianebracho]

I just did a double take, very déjà vu

[@bbgrl95_]

They look so good and speak so eloquently

[@nessaa2413]

omg it’s been five years 😭😭 why does all this drama keep coming back , no matter who it is

[@Elenasnapz]

I hope Tati brings back the palette because it is the best one I have and I would love a few more

[@Vyvyarth]

People forget that she was asked these questions. She didnt just start spilling it all unprompted

[@tacocatseven]

Oh please… you realize people prep before interviews, right? They’ll go over topics, what to ask and not to ask, and sometimes even decide specific questions and answers before hand.

[@Sar3876]

She is so pretty

[@DropSet_Nicky]

1:38 do you know how crazy that sounds for her to be as old as she was and say that oh a 17-year-old wanted to be friend me though she was like already way older than him no you're supposed to use your age to be wise to not be friend these types of people she wants to play the victim I used to love Tati Westbrook. I used to be one of her original followers, and after all this came out, it just made me realize, she likes to play the victim. She didn't take any accountability and she ruined her career for it.

[@ec-3po]

This!!

[@AespaGiselle-r5p]

Maybe she accepted this friendship because she thought James needed someone to advise him like a mentor. Dont be so judgemental over something we did not even know the whole story behind it. It is not impossible option.

[@aurianaames7940]

Bruh this. She STILL lacks any kind of self accountability and it's always someone else's fault.

[@sashalove83]

​@@AespaGiselle-r5pOr because she wanted something out of it, James was on the come up & she saw it & wanted to be apart of it.

[@KreepyAlly]

I've been trying to find a summary of this drama for so long - thank you!

[@gayavardan]

This woman is no less creepy than the other two. I remember watching her video on JC back in the day. I knew neither of them but even watching that video I had this feeling that she was not a good person.

[@avarielle1582]

It was very vindictive and spiteful. Even if the allegations were true I think she cared more about the gummies than the actual victims of JC.

[@gayavardan]

@@avarielle1582 💯

[@tahirua89]

Gosh, this was peak yt, take me back ❤

[@duckimpala]

1:14 uhm why would she let him do her wedding makeup if she never wanted to be friends with him? lmao

[@tristramdomingo3512]

she didn't say she never wanted to be friends, it's that jam*s keep on hitting her up on her dms lol

[@xoshanyla]

@@tristramdomingo3512censoring his name is hilarious

[@duckimpala]

⁠@@tristramdomingo3512im having a hard time discerning the difference but i believe u

[@sashalove83]

​@@tristramdomingo3512 But that's what she is trying to imply by saying "he pursued her for the friendship "

[@junneyymay8843]

You don’t have to be friends with someone to let them do your wedding makeup …

[@Mathyou2491]

Tati… what is weird is you working w a 17 year old when a grown adult. You are the adult in the situation and YOU are in the wrong. Girl stop talking about this, you are not relevant anymore Tati.

[@appalachiabrauchfrau]

Working with him wasn't the issue, it was treating him as though he was in her peer group. You can be friendly with minors, but you cannot be equal-footing-friends with them. A mentorship or work relationship is no big deal, but treating a 17 year old like someone your own age isn't right. I am friendLY with kids I've taught but I would not tell them about my personal issues, yk?? If you know a teen just starting out in a field you work in and they come to you for advice or mentorship don't turn them away because "omg age gap!" That's not a thing. Just treat them like a minor.

[@wasabi.2839]

She's kind of sketchy but honestly, in her video she was right about a lot of things.

[@sashalove83]

Like what?🤔😊😊

[@cutieepie5840]

Michelle Phan has a podcast?!

[@erika2m16]

Ikr 😂

[@Tyler-x4e]

The fact we are still talking about this goes to show what an iconic moment in history it was. I was there. It was rare.

[@baralkoby26]

What year is this???

[@Hyelee6714]

I genuinely think she just tries to play victim everytime she has the chance 😂 like yeah she wasn't the only one at fault but she's not innocent either, the video she made about james was shady af

[@aratoho]

Zero accountability for anything. She lucked out that the creep allegations turned out to be true, but she always has an excuse for everything. Nothing is ever her fault

[@irishbunny420]

The story behind "bye sister" has changed yet again! Surprisingly

[@MinajShades]

It’s been five years wow … felt like it was a year ago … 8:03 a life time ago ; guuuurl bye. People look at her ; and remember what had happened . Not about her content ; let’s be real. Why she’s bringing it up. James , Jeffree and Shane don’t bring it up , but she still does . I see it as; … nvm I rather not say .

[@Sbrasher13]

No sis finish your thought. I’m listening.

[@keshidawgies]

Sigh.. when will this woman stop bringing this up whenever she wants attention or to be relevant again? (For people saying the host brought it up, 1) She could’ve not answered, 2) They probably had it planned and Tati told her to bring it up.) She isn’t a saint, the furthest from it & I personally get the most creeps as well as icks from her before all of them. If James hadn’t rubbed her the wrong way, she wouldn’t have talked about any of this & remained friends with him. Bye.

[@x.tawny.x]

she is too old to not be accountable.

[@LibraInSeattle]

The ageism in the comments is really unfortunate. Tati is only 42. That isn’t old. She looks amazing and I really enjoy her long form content on KZbin. I’ve been a subscriber to her channel since 2016. Tati and Jackie Aina were the only two makeup channels I would watch back in the day. Her eyeshadow palette was really good. I look forward to getting whatever makeup she creates next. I have no doubt that it will be high quality, like her first palette and her vitamins. Unfortunately the Halo brand is no longer hers. Halo Beauty (vitamin brand) was released to the former business partner as part of the settlement agreement between the parties in the lawsuit.

[@redforman6093]

They’re calling her old because she was older than james and therefore should’ve acted like the adult. It’s got nothing to do with how she looks. She’s gorgeous on the outside, but still old enough to definitely know better.

[@reginalopez3140]

it’s more she was old enough to know better

[@aleph9006]

I'm super glad she released Bye Sister. As a gay man, it's super cringe and uncomfortable to watch another gay person make a move on straight men and not know when to take NO for an answer. If anything James was doing more harm to the gay community than anything by living out those stereotypes. The older gay generation were beaten and unalived for so many things, but the scare tactics that str8 ppl used back in the day were to scare other straight ppl by telling them gays were going to come after their men and they were Pdfiles. So the fact that he was just so openly trying to convince str8 men to diddle him on his channel in front of little teenaged boys and girls, was beyond disgusting. James is definitely the gay friend you don't take around other people because he will be so oblivious to make others uncomfortable and think it's cute.

[@scipiodriver4076]

See, as a gay man, I am NOT glad she released bye sister, for all the reasons you listed here. James has done actual harm, and that harm is being used by bigots to reinforce these harmful and baseless stereotypes about our community. However, Tati’s video doesn’t cover any of these specific instances. In fact, the specific instances Tati *does* refer to have been debunked. All her making that video did was give James’ supporters something to point to when dismissing future allegations, even the ones that James himself confirmed happened, and give the bigots something they point to as “proof” of James’ predatory behavior being excused in the past.

[@lastkryptonbaby]

Thanks for spilling 🙏

[@amberlejones]

Just saw you on Trish’s Podcast! How fun ☺️💞

[@xoroxyohh]

At this point, eff Tati, she’s so annoying

[@fiizkenfiizk7645]

I watched her before the drama happened, and between the 3 of them, she definitely seems like the most truthful and kind person. I believe her

[@kieratatum209]

This is taking me back to 2019-2020 makeup KZbin

[@thatsjessicaisis]

No way!! I’m having war flashbacks 😭😭

[@genesisrodriguez6992]

THE WAY I CLICKED SO FAST 😭😭

[@Yellowduchess]

Katya and trixie still quote her 'quote' iykyk😂

[@jenmontzingo]

What is it? ᵔᴗᵔ

[@roseelizabeth1203]

@@jenmontzingoi think it’s “and you did it at my birthday dinner”

[@WhiteRaven696]

I will always be on Tati's side, especially since James HAS NOT STOPPED what Tati called him out for.

[@sashalove83]

But not because of Tati

[@content_fan]

Applause for Tati… this podcast is giving her a lot of great publicity 👏🏽👏🏽

[@sashalove83]

Is the "great publicity" present with us in the chat?🤔

[@qui_etes_vous]

Thanks for explaining all of this including background information :) . I do not pay attention to this stuff but I do want to know what everyone is talking about when this influencer drama comes up. I will come to you for the fill in!

[@Vina_Online]

I love Tati ♥

[@empath3133]

I can’t believe it’s been years since this drama!! Lol

[@houseofvanity8]

Omg I had totally forgotten about Michelle !!! Used to love here tutorials ❤

[@victoriagrandchamp3301]

Why is she trying so hard to be relevant girl didn’t you lose all 3 businesses that you “owned” or what

[@redforman6093]

Gotta say it louder for the people in the back

[@taiyabazaheer9492]

People on Reddit were saying that her reviews are not trustworthy anymore and I agree. She most definitely avoids negative reviews about certain products from certain brands and then I see other more authentic reviewers dislike them.

[@chelseabarnts1245]

Wait what year is it???

[@IMFJP82075]

Ngl but Tati's vitamins are actually amazing

[@EDILYshiro]

I'm getting a sense of deja vu

[@hayaalmasri5084]

She looks amazing actually

[@megan6955]

I really thought I was in 2018 again for a second holy shi

[@JessicaRodriguez-zy5gz]

What made you start showing your face?

[@tarastratton3]

Whoa, what year is it??

[@ShawnaLynnn]

Look regardless if James Charles came up to Tati or not she was the adult and should have been the one making and keeping boundaries. If things got out of hand she holds part of the responsibility.

[@SincerelyAlexandra]

Dramageddon was the reason I found this channel 😂

[@sasharama5485]

So... Everybody pursued here, she didn't like anyone.... Couldn't you say ....NO????????? I still remember she saying " Shane, I'm worried james could do something really bad ( self harm) if i post this"....and she still posted it. James is not a good person but she is definitely not the innocent victim

[@nickaaayy97]

She is too old for this

[@paigeharris9909]

How so? I can't wait until you get that old. 😂

[@hannahwalmer1124]

@@paigeharris9909she’s 42 acting like she’s 19. Grow t’f up, dude.

[@nickaaayy97]

@@paigeharris9909 in 20 years? Yeah, i won’t be talking about drama with a teenager at that age.

[@paigeharris9909]

@@hannahwalmer1124 Like I said I can't wait until you get that age. It's funny. How little girls like you, tell people to grow up. 😂😂😂

[@paigeharris9909]

@@nickaaayy97 It's something that majorly affected her life. You don't get to tell someone what they don't get to talk about. It cracks me up you probably young AF telling someone to grow up. You probably one of those that think that turning 30 or 40 won't happen to you, because your 20s last forever right? 😂😂😂

[@truly_seedy]

Girl what year is it I'm confusion 😵‍💫

[@maycatenhaaf22]

A friendship is still a two way relationship. If she new it was wrong at any point she could have easily stopped it. She just enjoyed it too.

[@cristinitao]

One thing I must admit about Tati, her eyeshadow palette is still top tier for me.

[@Smoothiequeen42]

i remember exactly where i was 5 years ago watching your video about this